That is certainly true, so if a computer screws up portion in the middle and the answer still comes out correct then the end result is the same.
Another post mentioned that computers could come up with the proofs but it would be too hard for a human to verify. At what point can be start to both trust the output and to build upon that trusted output by further trusting future output. It could be an interesting time in which we don't understand how things are done but we are able to do them none the less. It all comes down to the question, how much do you want to trust a machine?
If humans created the computer to do the task should they not trust that it would do the task and do it well? Perhaps, perhaps not.
A computer could quite easier come up with a very complex answer simply because it can do more calculations in a given second than a human can. Of course humans take in a lot more variables at a given time so the numbers are actually very opposite but I'm sure you get my point.
I think you test it with progressively more different problems, if the answers come out precise and accurate then you can build your level of trust in the system. Kind of like the process of getting users to trust saving to the server after a bad crash wiped everything because the previous admin was a moron.
That can actually be a good point, when you make a task faster and easier then you can sacrifice a little accuracy here and there.
When the results become too inaccurate then you have to change your tools, so unless accuracy is key, such as NASA's calculations and the likes then you work on making a computer do as much as possible to eliminate human error and humans can be there to adjust the almost mythic fudge factor
I'd say America has matured but currently there is a big religious movement caused in no small part by 911 and then the problem kept growing from there at the convervative movement gains more and more momentum. This is against the common morals of I dare say most of America. Look at TV over the last say seven years, the stuff that is allowed on broadcast TV has greatly changed, of course, now there is always someone that attempts to go a little further than a group of people are willing to go and you end up with this taking steps backwards that you see cause of the Janet Jackson incident which is considered stupid by a good portion of this population.
Maybe I give America too much credit but I think its come a long ways since the times when you couldn't even say pregnant on TV.
Ashcroft needs to wake up that's for sure, I'm not sure that guy knows what country he lives in. Everytime I look at him and look at his policies I think Nazi Germany, the guy scares me more and more because Bush keeps fucking giving him more power, way more power than the attorney general was ever supposed to have.
I hope this will be a very active election year, last election all of America made the mistake of being apathetic, who'd have thought things would turn this drastic since the two candidates in the last election were more or less the same. America did not elect someone to change things and Bush has sure done a great job of forgetting that.
Anywho, porn employs a good chunk of us IT people, I'd like Ashcroft to please leave it alone.
I would seriously home no one uses Windows update to patch a mission-critical server. In such environments you have an onsight SUS server. You apply the patch to your testing server and if its successful you use SUS to push the patch out.
Windows update does break stuff, but it is not the only option for automatic or manual updates from Microsoft. They even offer a corporate version which doesn't rewrite policy everytime you update which is why most apps break when they do
It botheres me when companies make server cases pretty, they should scare little kids when they walk by your glass wall.
For the record, you can own the instruction set, Intel owns IA32 and IA64 with IA32 being the instruction set AMD had to license from Intel to use. So Intel has sort of limited the damage it can occur because its instruction set is so ubiquitous.
Its good to see AMD's offering taking a hold, they are a much more deserving company as they actually treat their employees well, profit sharing and all. Top it off it is hands down a superior approach.
It has definitely come a long ways since I tried installing Slackware 1.2 and I screwed up my partition table, still not sure exactly how I did it, man, fdisk is powerful on Linux.
At any rate, you mention Gentoo and easy, you must mean Stage3;)
I just got done install a Stage2, its great stuff, now that I've ignored the comment in fstab about using notail for reiserfs, that was a mistake, thing was slow as hell. Now my only problem is Alsa and trying to get VMWare to install, vmmon is being a pain in the ass.
Valid question but it shows a common misconception, although AMD helped produce the chipset they do not own it, it is in fact x86-64 which Intel has a hand in as well so they will just go to using it, its much easier than using a whole new instruction set since a lot of the same functions will still work, however there are a few that won't which is important for people to remember, most think x86-64 is just the 32bit instruction set with some more numbers attached. Not saying you don't, just for all those other people out there that might not.
You're right about Apple, they've made some good stuff and they've made some crap, but you take that risk when you try to be the first to adopt something. Of course there are going to be times when it doesn't work. For Apple that time is not right now, the Power4 has quite a long future ahead of it, the question is, how well will it continue to stack up again the likes of the Athlon64 and Opteron. I mainly focus on Opteron because I deal in the server room which Apple I'm sorry to say it still laughable. I couldn't believe their first attempt with OS 9 Server. Didn't even have basic file protections, if the server ran out of space it would just discard whatever the user saved without telling the user there was a problem. Ugh..
So yeah, x86-64 looks like the future of the PC world. Props to AMD for not having to backtrack because Intel had the wrong idea to begin with.
Just to clarify, you make it sound like AMD64 and IA64 are the same when they are very different. I'll assume that's what you meant and you were just exercising a little enthusiasm for a third alternative. PPC64 has indeed been around for a long time. Think RS6000, but only recently with the help of Apple did IBM start selling a lower end version found in the G5. The processors are not really comparable though. Sadens me to see what Apple did to the Power4.
The platform is very mature, this was another good move by Apple much like the early adoption of USB and Firewire.
Ugh, I can't believe I just said something positive about Apple, I feel so dirty. I hate the company but I can't deny that their product has much improved.
I would say that that is not the definition of continent, instead I'd say its purely a political definition much like national borders the only difference being that some regions choose to base their continental status on plates and some do not. Off of dictionary.com they say that a continent is a principle land mass with the common seven that everyone learned in school. If you go with that definition Mexico is part of South America as there is a giant mountain range that seperates the two countries. At least along the Arizona border where I've spent my time.
It's also worth noting that most of America was not built on the backs of slaves. It was mostly the south. The 13 original colonies had no slaves until they were well established, and even then many outlawed slavery, like Vermont. At not point in the history of Vermont was slavery ever legal. So why should the state of Vermont have to pay for the bullshit other justified.
Not everyone thought slavery was acceptable so not everyone should have to pay. Also, not a single slave lives in America today, they all died... more than 150 years ago, not even the direct decendents are alive. There has to be a law drawn somewhere and I'd say next of kin is as far as it goes.
I said my geek friends, not geeks in general, and my geek friends are intelligent.
The irony here is that the accidents they have been in were pretty much all because they were obsessing about something and stopped paying attention to the road.
a 50k+ degree ball of plasma can do more damage than you think. It would definitely be better than a fission reactor breaking down but its not 100% safe along with everything else we use to generate power. When it comes to fusion the gain by far outweighs the risk, but that doesn't mean there isn't any risk to consider.
This would be a much better approach but it still doesn't work. There are all kinds of inebriation that occurs, whether someone is just plain happy or very angry and those cause accidents as well. That's why I say the computer needs to do the driving and not the human, even though that would take a lot of the fun out of it, but that's not saying we couldn't have free for all zones.
Sorry but America is not a continent, It is divided in North American and Central America by a significant mountain range, Central America and South America are seperate cause they want to be, not sure as why but either way my point was that North America is its own continent. Your assertion would mean that Europe and Asia are one continent as well and that's certainly not true.
Plus, not all land masses fall into the continent category, like Hawaii is not part of America
Hense my comment about 2014. Fusion is not just sci-fi. No one has had the money to try it on a grand scale which is where it would produce a hell of a lot more energy. Of course the megawatts required to fire off 120 lasers at a hydrogen atom means you need a really big fusion generator to make up for the loss of power.
I was referring to a recent slashdot article talking about the plans for a fusion reactor in the sorta near future. A decade is a decent goal. they will create it but you most definitely underestimate the power of tens of thousands of degree plasma escaping. We've had discussions about this higher in the thread. There are dangers but they are in no way a reason to stop the research.
I didn't know there was an unautomated flying car. This is building a system from the ground up, lots of room for badness yep, but if its built right the system can handle it.
That's still second to the issue at hand which stated that you would need an intelligence test to use your flying car and I assert that that is not useful, or I'll grant you, has some merit but should not be the entire basis even when included with the original items the poster mentioned.
My statement about intelligence having nothing to do with the traffic problems was not meant to be absolute, only stating that anyone can cause traffic accidents and when the accidents occurs in a flying vehicle then the stakes are higher.
Because accidents still happen when intelligent people are driving! Your details neglect a whole slew of other factors too, a lot of statistics say drinking a glass of wine everyday is good for your health, but every last one of those tests neglects the fact the wine drinkers are usually better educated and live more comfortable lives.
Also by leaving out the number of traffic accidents that don't result in deaths you are leaving out almost all traffic accidents since by far most don't result in death.
And a quick survey of the accidents my geek friends have caused against the accidents my non-geek friends have caused would say the opposite.
Even your figures help support my claim since intelligence =! no traffic accidents. Might add that those are traffic deaths and not general accidents which are much more common.
Intelligent people probably cause less deaths because they better know how to handle themselves in the situation but that does not mean they don't cause any or even a lot. The point was that an intelligence test would not work. Obviously people of below average intelligence shouldn't fly, the same goes with driving a car.
Not all failure conditions would have to result in a crash, redundancy is a beautiful thing. I'm not sure it would have to result in the social changes that you describe but I agree it would make the idea seem a bit more rediculous, then again, I come from a place where the entire continent is but two countries.
As long as people believe seperating themselves from different minded people to preserve their heritage then there will always be national borders.
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Another post mentioned that computers could come up with the proofs but it would be too hard for a human to verify. At what point can be start to both trust the output and to build upon that trusted output by further trusting future output. It could be an interesting time in which we don't understand how things are done but we are able to do them none the less. It all comes down to the question, how much do you want to trust a machine?
A computer could quite easier come up with a very complex answer simply because it can do more calculations in a given second than a human can. Of course humans take in a lot more variables at a given time so the numbers are actually very opposite but I'm sure you get my point.
I think you test it with progressively more different problems, if the answers come out precise and accurate then you can build your level of trust in the system. Kind of like the process of getting users to trust saving to the server after a bad crash wiped everything because the previous admin was a moron.When the results become too inaccurate then you have to change your tools, so unless accuracy is key, such as NASA's calculations and the likes then you work on making a computer do as much as possible to eliminate human error and humans can be there to adjust the almost mythic fudge factor
Maybe I give America too much credit but I think its come a long ways since the times when you couldn't even say pregnant on TV.
Ashcroft needs to wake up that's for sure, I'm not sure that guy knows what country he lives in. Everytime I look at him and look at his policies I think Nazi Germany, the guy scares me more and more because Bush keeps fucking giving him more power, way more power than the attorney general was ever supposed to have.I hope this will be a very active election year, last election all of America made the mistake of being apathetic, who'd have thought things would turn this drastic since the two candidates in the last election were more or less the same. America did not elect someone to change things and Bush has sure done a great job of forgetting that.
Anywho, porn employs a good chunk of us IT people, I'd like Ashcroft to please leave it alone.Damn I need to read more carefully
Windows update does break stuff, but it is not the only option for automatic or manual updates from Microsoft. They even offer a corporate version which doesn't rewrite policy everytime you update which is why most apps break when they do
For the record, you can own the instruction set, Intel owns IA32 and IA64 with IA32 being the instruction set AMD had to license from Intel to use. So Intel has sort of limited the damage it can occur because its instruction set is so ubiquitous.
Its good to see AMD's offering taking a hold, they are a much more deserving company as they actually treat their employees well, profit sharing and all. Top it off it is hands down a superior approach.At any rate, you mention Gentoo and easy, you must mean Stage3 ;)
I just got done install a Stage2, its great stuff, now that I've ignored the comment in fstab about using notail for reiserfs, that was a mistake, thing was slow as hell. Now my only problem is Alsa and trying to get VMWare to install, vmmon is being a pain in the ass.
Gotta correct my own post, hate it when I don't read it properly. AMD helped produce the instruction set, not chipset.
You're right about Apple, they've made some good stuff and they've made some crap, but you take that risk when you try to be the first to adopt something. Of course there are going to be times when it doesn't work. For Apple that time is not right now, the Power4 has quite a long future ahead of it, the question is, how well will it continue to stack up again the likes of the Athlon64 and Opteron. I mainly focus on Opteron because I deal in the server room which Apple I'm sorry to say it still laughable. I couldn't believe their first attempt with OS 9 Server. Didn't even have basic file protections, if the server ran out of space it would just discard whatever the user saved without telling the user there was a problem. Ugh..
So yeah, x86-64 looks like the future of the PC world. Props to AMD for not having to backtrack because Intel had the wrong idea to begin with.The platform is very mature, this was another good move by Apple much like the early adoption of USB and Firewire.
Ugh, I can't believe I just said something positive about Apple, I feel so dirty. I hate the company but I can't deny that their product has much improved.
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I would say that that is not the definition of continent, instead I'd say its purely a political definition much like national borders the only difference being that some regions choose to base their continental status on plates and some do not. Off of dictionary.com they say that a continent is a principle land mass with the common seven that everyone learned in school. If you go with that definition Mexico is part of South America as there is a giant mountain range that seperates the two countries. At least along the Arizona border where I've spent my time.I'd say Microsoft has learned how to do DRM since there is no legacy code to bitch with
Not everyone thought slavery was acceptable so not everyone should have to pay. Also, not a single slave lives in America today, they all died... more than 150 years ago, not even the direct decendents are alive. There has to be a law drawn somewhere and I'd say next of kin is as far as it goes.
The irony here is that the accidents they have been in were pretty much all because they were obsessing about something and stopped paying attention to the road.
a 50k+ degree ball of plasma can do more damage than you think. It would definitely be better than a fission reactor breaking down but its not 100% safe along with everything else we use to generate power. When it comes to fusion the gain by far outweighs the risk, but that doesn't mean there isn't any risk to consider.
This would be a much better approach but it still doesn't work. There are all kinds of inebriation that occurs, whether someone is just plain happy or very angry and those cause accidents as well. That's why I say the computer needs to do the driving and not the human, even though that would take a lot of the fun out of it, but that's not saying we couldn't have free for all zones.
Plus, not all land masses fall into the continent category, like Hawaii is not part of America
I was referring to a recent slashdot article talking about the plans for a fusion reactor in the sorta near future. A decade is a decent goal. they will create it but you most definitely underestimate the power of tens of thousands of degree plasma escaping. We've had discussions about this higher in the thread. There are dangers but they are in no way a reason to stop the research.
I didn't know there was an unautomated flying car. This is building a system from the ground up, lots of room for badness yep, but if its built right the system can handle it.
My statement about intelligence having nothing to do with the traffic problems was not meant to be absolute, only stating that anyone can cause traffic accidents and when the accidents occurs in a flying vehicle then the stakes are higher.
Also by leaving out the number of traffic accidents that don't result in deaths you are leaving out almost all traffic accidents since by far most don't result in death.
Even your figures help support my claim since intelligence =! no traffic accidents. Might add that those are traffic deaths and not general accidents which are much more common.
Intelligent people probably cause less deaths because they better know how to handle themselves in the situation but that does not mean they don't cause any or even a lot. The point was that an intelligence test would not work. Obviously people of below average intelligence shouldn't fly, the same goes with driving a car.As long as people believe seperating themselves from different minded people to preserve their heritage then there will always be national borders.
Fortunately a lot of the world realizes this.I dunno, combine naquida with plutonium and apparently you get a really big bomb, thas no good.