Interesting, I like this idea. BTW, I've learned a long time ago, that's it's better to have something to show to the world before comming out and announcing a opensource project. (Look at every major sucessful opensource project, begining with Linus et al).
Also, shouldnt/. verify stories for their autencity before posting them? It seems like linuxgame has carried this story as well. Is this a forum for every rich kid with a domain to get some hits? --
Rudeness is not often the best way to deal in a project like this. As I understand, your one of the people representing this project. Please do not hurl rude comments when a suggestion is made./. is a place filled with flame wars, try to stay out of it.. or be natuarally branded.
It takes a sound mind to make something sound, (how about looking at the kernel mailing list's crap-to-ontopic ratio, interestingly linus has the lest amount of crap there, with Alan Cox dominating the crap session ) -- cant remember where this page is.. (looking for samba"?) --
Debian is represented there, i'm sure debian would always act in the best interest of FSF. It's also nice to see Gnome and KDE represented on this board. Anyway, this is a good thing, I hope the best for Corel and wish them luck with their new dist (which hopefully would be pretty stable due to debian's stability, build a good gui on top of that and you got yourself a nice OS). --
Now that coral is making a newbie OS based on Debian, we can stop making debian more friendly to newbies and let it live as the official hacker OS. In the past, we've told newbies to start with RH, but with Coral's new OS, we've got a good alternative and a nice way of introducing people to Debian.
On WordPerfect 9, is that going to be based on winelib? How efficent would be if it's based on that? I've been using abiword for the last 2 weeks and have falling in love with this editor. Unless coral gets the bloat out of WP8, I'd have to switch to abiword. Wouldnt anything based on winelab be slower than native code?
I wish coral good luck their new dist and office applications.
Quality of the music is low Sales of DAM CD's isn't so hot HO: Sale of DAM CD's are what mp3.com relies on.. ------------------------------ MP3.com is still far away from competing...
Inductivly speaking this argument seem to be commiting a fallacy of confusing common cause. Also the first premise, 'Quality of music is low' might be a fallacy, since this was not based on a popular concencious or on a randomly gathered stastics of indivudals who listen to mp3. Also this the hidden premise concering DAM cd's might be fallicous. Thus making the whole argument one big fat fallacy.
I don't feel that was very appropirate. SIG11 your coment was obviously wrtten to cause a nation wide flame war and create a long line of off-topic posting.
It was obvious that your posting was an attempt to drag attention to your sorry self and make some rather unwarrented stabs at an otherwise respected individual. IMHO, it was your posting that was offtopic and self-centered. I just wish this whole thread get moderated out. I'm removed my moderation hat for this whole thread..
As an experiment, I turned my head sideways and had it aligned so that only one eye saw my monitor display. And trust me that's annoying. Try it yourself. Try concentrating on the monitor like this for 5 mins and see how strained your eye ball becomes. Mine almost jumped out and did a "jedi flip". --
It works pretty good on my system. Debian Potato on kernel 2.2.9 -- oced 300a+64mb ram. Very nice.No crashes in the last 2 hours of real video watching on CNN.
Though, I have to report a bug, or a lack of feature or maybe I just couldnt find the button to do it. That's zoom.. my friend. G2 windows are tiny on my X.. I have to press my nose against the display to look at it. A basic, working zoom function would be much appericated. Also how about full screen with DGA? That's a nice possiblity.
I know this is alpha, and for alpha this is extreemly good. Also real, please support other *linux platforms. It helps not to include too much asm on 86. --
Mlx compiles fine for me, but with the cvs drivers i get a green screen of death when ever i run an opengl application. Simon @suse said he would be uploading newer drivers soon.
Basically read the gettingstarted/Readme and follow those directions there, I have had clean compiles with the cvs and the tar balls on suse. If you need any more help e-mail me at twisted@telbot.com.
Carmack also mentioned that g200 should preform around the same speed as TNT. (see g200 devel list). Thus I have high hopes for g200/g400.
BTw, 3dlabs would be given out the specs both 2d/3d for pm3 as well. You can play this game under pm2 using the kernel mlx module developed by SUSE. --
In other news, 3dlabs said they would be giving full specs to permedia3 for developers. This includes both 2d and 3d specs. Currently both pm2 and matrox g200 can play q3a with hardware acceleation. --
That CVS has mlx as well for permedia 2 people. Though the mlx there isnt that uptodate, I've been told that the whole acl section would be updated soon and stablized/uploaded into cvs. keep the site bookmarked. and help their project (G200) --
If you need 3D hardware rendering, please look into mlx/acl mesa drivers for pm2. SUSE is making them. They would be releasing a bunch of new drivers to CVS soon. (i just got an e-mail from the guy in charge of the pm2 stuff)
As you may all know q3test runs out of the box on voodoo. But there are two other cards you can use it on. That's the matrox g200 and 3dlabs permedia 2. I'm in the process of making a HOWTO for the pm2. If you have such a card please let me know. I heard the fps wasnt that good (~10fps) , but viewable.
Also, it runs fine on vanialla mesa. (No 3d) on my celery 450 (300a oced), i get about 0.5 FPS with software only mesa. But it looks cool. Though xdm wouldnt take a screenshot, due to the way colors were handeled. Download q3 just to check it out at 0.5 fps! Yah!
Just like the military, corps too are scared to assoicate themselves with homosexuals and accept the fact these people are part of what makes this world tick. It's silly how people still call him obscene names many years after his death. --
MetroLinks has permedia2 based opengl X win servers. I wonder if q2 would work on that. I've got a pm2 (8mb AGP).
And as for glx based cards.. erm that's when Xfree86 4.0 comes out, so everyone has to wait till that comes out. I heard g200 support is being worked on.. --
If you follow the anonymous posting above by me (see one article above this) you might see the exect posting abot renderman. This was posted on the last freebsd posting (click on more freebsd postings here on slashdot to see that:) ) --
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Interesting, I like this idea. BTW, I've learned a long time ago, that's it's better to have something to show to the world before comming out and announcing a opensource project. (Look at every major sucessful opensource project, begining with Linus et al).
/. verify stories for their autencity before posting them? It seems like linuxgame has carried this story as well. Is this a forum for every rich kid with a domain to get some hits?
Also, shouldnt
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Rudeness is not often the best way to deal in a project like this. As I understand, your one of the people representing this project. Please do not hurl rude comments when a suggestion is made. /. is a place filled with flame wars, try to stay out of it.. or be natuarally branded.
It takes a sound mind to make something sound, (how about looking at the kernel mailing list's crap-to-ontopic ratio, interestingly linus has the lest amount of crap there, with Alan Cox dominating the crap session ) -- cant remember where this page is.. (looking for samba"?)
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Debian is represented there, i'm sure debian would always act in the best interest of FSF. It's also nice to see Gnome and KDE represented on this board. Anyway, this is a good thing, I hope the best for Corel and wish them luck with their new dist (which hopefully would be pretty stable due to debian's stability, build a good gui on top of that and you got yourself a nice OS).
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Now that coral is making a newbie OS based on Debian, we can stop making debian more friendly to newbies and let it live as the official hacker OS.
In the past, we've told newbies to start with RH, but with Coral's new OS, we've got a good alternative and a nice way of introducing people to Debian.
On WordPerfect 9, is that going to be based on winelib? How efficent would be if it's based on that? I've been using abiword for the last 2 weeks and have falling in love with this editor. Unless coral gets the bloat out of WP8, I'd have to switch to abiword. Wouldnt anything based on winelab be slower than native code?
I wish coral good luck their new dist and office applications.
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Quality of the music is low
Sales of DAM CD's isn't so hot
HO: Sale of DAM CD's are what mp3.com relies on..
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MP3.com is still far away from competing...
Inductivly speaking this argument seem to be
commiting a fallacy of confusing common cause.
Also the first premise, 'Quality of music is low' might be a fallacy, since this was not based on a popular concencious or on a randomly gathered stastics of indivudals who listen to mp3. Also this the hidden premise concering DAM cd's might
be fallicous. Thus making the whole argument one
big fat fallacy.
Yours logically..
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I don't feel that was very appropirate. SIG11 your coment was obviously wrtten to cause a nation wide flame war and create a long line of off-topic posting.
It was obvious that your posting was an attempt to drag attention to your sorry self and make some rather unwarrented stabs at an otherwise respected individual. IMHO, it was your posting that was offtopic and self-centered. I just wish this whole thread get moderated out. I'm removed my moderation hat for this whole thread..
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Since RIAA is universally hated now, I think it would be nice if we had a poll that when..
:)
What's the most hated internet based interest/group/company/product/idea.
1. RIAA
2. DIVX
3. US CRYPTO Export laws.
4. Software Patents
5. Farunfsck (cant spell) German MP3 codec makers.
6. Anti-Emulator Companies..
Ofcourse, Microsoft would be left out.. since it wont be fare.. if it was in this poll
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As an experiment, I turned my head sideways and had it aligned so that only one eye saw my monitor display. And trust me that's annoying. Try it yourself. Try concentrating on the monitor like this for 5 mins and see how strained your eye ball becomes. Mine almost jumped out and did a "jedi flip".
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It works pretty good on my system. Debian Potato on kernel 2.2.9 -- oced 300a+64mb ram. Very nice .No crashes in the last 2 hours of real video watching on CNN.
Though, I have to report a bug, or a lack of feature or maybe I just couldnt find the button to do it. That's zoom.. my friend. G2 windows are tiny on my X.. I have to press my nose against the display to look at it. A basic, working zoom function would be much appericated. Also how about full screen with DGA? That's a nice possiblity.
I know this is alpha, and for alpha this is extreemly good. Also real, please support other *linux platforms. It helps not to include too much asm on 86.
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According to October X. "I will run nothing but debian on Linux dot com" 1 GIG RAM... raid pride.. Debian we hail..
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Hi Matt
Mlx compiles fine for me, but with the cvs drivers i get a green screen of death when ever i run an opengl application. Simon @suse said he would be uploading newer drivers soon.
Basically read the gettingstarted/Readme and follow those directions there, I have had clean compiles with the cvs and the tar balls on suse. If you need any more help e-mail me at twisted@telbot.com.
Later.
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Carmack also mentioned that g200 should preform around the same speed as TNT. (see g200 devel list). Thus I have high hopes for g200/g400.
BTw, 3dlabs would be given out the specs both 2d/3d for pm3 as well. You can play this game under pm2 using the kernel mlx module developed by SUSE.
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Url fix http://lists.openprojects.n et/mailman/listinfo/g200-dev
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Voodoo (you know where to get it)
Rigth now there are two companies which has pledged their alligance to Linux and given specs to their 3d/2d hardware.
Matrox G200 - OpenSource project.
lists.openprojects.net/mail man/listinfo/g200-dev
3dlabs Permdai2 - See link above and Simon's page on Suse
In other news, 3dlabs said they would be giving full specs to permedia3 for developers. This includes both 2d and 3d specs. Currently both pm2 and matrox g200 can play q3a with hardware acceleation.
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Ya!
It looks real Cool!. Hope everyone remembers to bring quality news and stuff and not just stop at the cool looks!
Rock on linuxgames & linuxquake!
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pm2 is a lot better than voodoo1.
1. 8mb ram
2. AGP
3. Linux support (2D/3D) -- not to mention one of the fastest 2D X servers around.
You can play q3a with it using the mlx/mesa modules, very cool. I got my card for 45 bucks. That's an accelgraphics permedia2 board.
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That CVS has mlx as well for permedia 2 people. Though the mlx there isnt that uptodate, I've been told that the whole acl section would be updated soon and stablized/uploaded into cvs. keep the site bookmarked. and help their project (G200)
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Look at lists.openprojects.net/mail man/listinfo/g200-dev
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Yes 2D.
If you need 3D hardware rendering, please look into mlx/acl mesa drivers for pm2. SUSE is making them. They would be releasing a bunch of new drivers to CVS soon. (i just got an e-mail from the guy in charge of the pm2 stuff)
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Hello,
As you may all know q3test runs out of the box on voodoo. But there are two other cards you can use it on. That's the matrox g200 and 3dlabs permedia 2. I'm in the process of making a HOWTO for the pm2. If you have such a card please let me know. I heard the fps wasnt that good (~10fps) , but viewable.
Also, it runs fine on vanialla mesa. (No 3d) on my celery 450 (300a oced), i get about 0.5 FPS with software only mesa. But it looks cool. Though xdm wouldnt take a screenshot, due to the way colors were handeled. Download q3 just to check it out at 0.5 fps! Yah!
More to come.
Department of Non-3dfx Users
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Just like the military, corps too are scared to assoicate themselves with homosexuals and accept the fact these people are part of what makes this world tick. It's silly how people still call him obscene names many years after his death.
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If not, I dont think many people would be able to run the linxu version untill xfree86 4.0 comes out.
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MetroLinks has permedia2 based opengl X win servers. I wonder if q2 would work on that. I've got a pm2 (8mb AGP).
And as for glx based cards.. erm that's when Xfree86 4.0 comes out, so everyone has to wait till that comes out. I heard g200 support is being worked on..
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If you follow the anonymous posting above by me (see one article above this) you might see the exect posting abot renderman. This was posted on the last freebsd posting (click on more freebsd postings here on slashdot to see that :) )
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That URL states it all right :)
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