Sorry. As the systems/network engineer here, I get a fair amount of say in what goes and what doesn't, and even a bone-headed PHB (and I've got 2 out of three directors who fit that mould.. and I can say that here because I'm changing jobs anyway in a couple of months) can see that anything that makes as much noise as SCO is not a long term bet.
Short of it: Doesn't matter if Unixware is great or crap if its not a cast-iron guarantee that the company will be around in 3 years to support the platform.
Welcome to the world of the corporate slave. If you only live to serve your mortgage, consider selling you house.
The reality is that chances are you wont ever write something that influences technology on a global scale. Maybe you are doing amazing stuff, but then I have to ask why got got a first post on slashdot.
Your outlook is valid, and open sourcing probably won't work for you. But it did work for Linus and Alan Cox and Andrew Tigwell (sp?) and a lot of other people. Linus in particular is worth a hell of a lot more now that he would be if he'd elected never to release his hard work as open source.
These are the highest profile examples, and of course there are shades of grey down to the little guy who never even submitted a bug report because he regard his time as too valuable to donate.
For where I am, the money required for a "top school" is excessive, plus given that I move around a lot, I went for an IT/Telecommunications focussed distance-education MBA, which limits my choices somewhat. Some stuff I'm learning is applicable, some is religion, some is bullshit, but there are enough gems to warrant the course.
If I ever decide to push into upper management, I'll look at an "Executive MBA" from a top school.
Actually, maybe she's already in training, which explains the bruises (link omitted, as I can't find one that doesn't feature porn banners. Its a wierd world)
> Includes having to agree not to work for two > years because people who aren't paying you > anything told you not to.
It sure does:
- He left Seagate by choice. He wasn't fired. - They paid him for 17 years. - We don't know if he'd signed a non-compete or not, but we are assuming that he at least signed an NDA.
If they sacked him, I'd agree with you. Its not fair for a company to say "bye, and by the way, you don't eat for two years", even though, after 17 years, he'd probably have a reasonable discharge package.
If he'd signed anything stating that he wouldn't work for a competitor and now he's trying to wriggle out of it, then yes, I believe that its morally wrong.
If he signed nothing, good on him. Go for it.
Another thing we don't know is exactly what this guy does. If he heads the division (reasonable after 17 years), he may not be that in-touch with the technical nitty-gritty. Seagate may still try and argue that they have developed management processes that would be of benefit to WD.
But, as this guy has 17 with Seagate under his belt, it could be argued that Seagate gave him his field of expertise, and if he hadn't been working there, it would be extremely unlikely that WD would want him.
Take this as a warning to all: Don't become too good at thing unless you plan to spend your life with one company. "Transferable skills" may not pay as much as a guru, but given that the number of gurus is pretty limited (think of diffy), its probably a better deal. I just turned down an otherwise incredible job because it would mean going for national security clearance, implying giving up my second (european) passport and severely limiting my movements outside the country.
If his contract stated that he couldn't work for a competitor upon leaving the company, or if his pink-slip included a non-compete clause, then hes morally, and most probably legally, obliged not to take the job.
If he didn't sign any of these, he should be able to take the job. However, chances are his contract obtained non-disclosure agreement. I don't know who has the onus of proof, but if WD put out a product similar to what this guy was working on at Seagate, seagate can point at this guy and scream "He told them", and I'd say WD would have a lot of difficulty proving that he didn't violate the non-disclosure agreement.
If the contact contained neither a non-compete nor a non-disclosure agreement, Seagate should find whoever wrote that contract 17 years ago, and shoot them.
I can tell you that the credit card statement you posted on July 29, 2004 come from somebody who lives in or near Las Condes, one of the more affluent suburbs in Santiago, Chile.
"La Pizza Nostra" has great toppings, but their bases are soggy and nothing special. There pasta is pretty good tho.
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Ok, nice and all.. lets be objective.
Sorry. As the systems/network engineer here, I get a fair amount of say in what goes and what doesn't, and even a bone-headed PHB (and I've got 2 out of three directors who fit that mould.. and I can say that here because I'm changing jobs anyway in a couple of months) can see that anything that makes as much noise as SCO is not a long term bet.
Short of it: Doesn't matter if Unixware is great or crap if its not a cast-iron guarantee that the company will be around in 3 years to support the platform.
Welcome to the world of the corporate slave. If you only live to serve your mortgage, consider selling you house.
The reality is that chances are you wont ever write something that influences technology on a global scale. Maybe you are doing amazing stuff, but then I have to ask why got got a first post on slashdot.
Your outlook is valid, and open sourcing probably won't work for you. But it did work for Linus and Alan Cox and Andrew Tigwell (sp?) and a lot of other people. Linus in particular is worth a hell of a lot more now that he would be if he'd elected never to release his hard work as open source.
These are the highest profile examples, and of course there are shades of grey down to the little guy who never even submitted a bug report because he regard his time as too valuable to donate.
For where I am, the money required for a "top school" is excessive, plus given that I move around a lot, I went for an IT/Telecommunications focussed distance-education MBA, which limits my choices somewhat. Some stuff I'm learning is applicable, some is religion, some is bullshit, but there are enough gems to warrant the course.
If I ever decide to push into upper management, I'll look at an "Executive MBA" from a top school.
"Just because you're bitter doesn't mean you're right."
:)
That, my friend, makes one hell of a signature.
I'm also doing an MBA (Chifley Business School), and the original post was actually looking for a funny mod.
Hey, I was after a "Funny" mod. Go figure :)
This is what happens when you let an MBA run an organisation.
The "Beware of the Dog" sign is more to stop you being sued when somebody enters your garden to rob your house and gets bitten.
Of course, chances are they'll sue anyway.
Technically, "there" is spelt correctly.
If you are going to be a pedant, at least point ou t that it was a grammatical error, not a spelling error.
So we get to send Paris Hilton off to Hubble?
I'd watch that!
Actually, maybe she's already in training, which explains the bruises (link omitted, as I can't find one that doesn't feature porn banners. Its a wierd world)
I bought my last back door from a pop-up add, and I have to say that its a little ripper.. swinging exit for the minature snaushzer and everything.
What I need now is a match to hang at the front of the house. So I'm just waiting for a decent front-door to popup...
Use the LP with your laptop by placing it on top of the laptop keyboard.
How dumb is there intended audience?
No, Lotus Notes is already broken. No need to install SP2 to achieve that. (Yes, I have dealt with the nightmare that it notes.)
Does the heldesk monkey know that your refer to him by such an unflattering term?
See this thread and repost all the funny, insightful and informative comments. (Nasty color scheme preserved).
My fiancee painted our bedroom this color because she finds it "soothing". I guess I've just got used to it.
Who have I missed?
Nah. Post it under it so we can all bitch about the color scheme.
RTFA?
You must be new here.
So thats around $300 million for the license. Ouch.
How many shares are google issuing? What percantage will end up in the hands of yahoo?
> Suuure. And how are they going to make that stick?
If he signed a non-compete as part of a standard "termination agreement", he's bound to it.
What would drive somebody would sign such a thing, who knows, but its not beyond the realms of possiblility.
> Includes having to agree not to work for two
> years because people who aren't paying you
> anything told you not to.
It sure does:
- He left Seagate by choice. He wasn't fired.
- They paid him for 17 years.
- We don't know if he'd signed a non-compete or not, but we are assuming that he at least signed an NDA.
If they sacked him, I'd agree with you. Its not fair for a company to say "bye, and by the way, you don't eat for two years", even though, after 17 years, he'd probably have a reasonable discharge package.
If he'd signed anything stating that he wouldn't work for a competitor and now he's trying to wriggle out of it, then yes, I believe that its morally wrong.
If he signed nothing, good on him. Go for it.
Another thing we don't know is exactly what this guy does. If he heads the division (reasonable after 17 years), he may not be that in-touch with the technical nitty-gritty. Seagate may still try and argue that they have developed management processes that would be of benefit to WD.
> Can't work in their field of expertise
But, as this guy has 17 with Seagate under his belt, it could be argued that Seagate gave him his field of expertise, and if he hadn't been working there, it would be extremely unlikely that WD would want him.
Take this as a warning to all: Don't become too good at thing unless you plan to spend your life with one company. "Transferable skills" may not pay as much as a guru, but given that the number of gurus is pretty limited (think of diffy), its probably a better deal. I just turned down an otherwise incredible job because it would mean going for national security clearance, implying giving up my second (european) passport and severely limiting my movements outside the country.
> CIA tells ex-employee that he can't go work for the KGB.
Yeah, but Seagate are less likely to drop you into the Mississippi wearing concrete sandles.
If his contract stated that he couldn't work for a competitor upon leaving the company, or if his pink-slip included a non-compete clause, then hes morally, and most probably legally, obliged not to take the job.
If he didn't sign any of these, he should be able to take the job. However, chances are his contract obtained non-disclosure agreement. I don't know who has the onus of proof, but if WD put out a product similar to what this guy was working on at Seagate, seagate can point at this guy and scream "He told them", and I'd say WD would have a lot of difficulty proving that he didn't violate the non-disclosure agreement.
If the contact contained neither a non-compete nor a non-disclosure agreement, Seagate should find whoever wrote that contract 17 years ago, and shoot them.
I can tell you that the credit card statement you posted on July 29, 2004 come from somebody who lives in or near Las Condes, one of the more affluent suburbs in Santiago, Chile.
"La Pizza Nostra" has great toppings, but their bases are soggy and nothing special. There pasta is pretty good tho.