Mate, if you're planning an armed revolution (a) don't do it on the fucking internet and (b) don't alienate 99% of your potential foot soldiers by calling them thick.
I really wish the British would learn the differences between a pedophile, child pornographer and child molester already. And that being a pedophile is not a crime.
Another Yank without a clue. "Child molesting" is rape, and is a crime. Possession or creation of "child pornography" (i.e. portrayals of child rape) is a less serious crime, but quite rightly still a crime.
Simply being a paedophile and not acting on it is no more illegal than being a Holocaust denier or goat-fucker.
meh, in the UK you're going to need to do some things with computers nowadays, if you for example want to drive a car you own...
So what? Your name and address are on your driving licence and you have to pay road tax anyway. Registering electronically is no different from doing it by paper.
would you really not mind having your bank accounts printed on the local newspaper? really really? or your family photos you just sent to your uncle? really really really?
In what fantasy world would the government print details of your bank account or family snaps in the local newspaper?
the laws potentially affect you, say, if your local copper envied something you had and wanted to hurt you with some crap he could dig up without a warrant.. because uh, that's what we are actually talking about when we talk about mass surveillance gathering that's searchable - gathering that just gets everything and is later searchable for 'clues' by anyone with access at will.
If the police "wanted to hurt you with some crap" I'm pretty sure they wouldn't need electronic information to do so. The protection against that is the rule of law, i.e. police being policed themselves. If that doesn't work, it's irrelevant whether they are using copies of your embarrassing dick picks or confessions beaten out of you with rubber hoses.
"Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time." -- Churchill.
Civilization is a question of compromises. You can have a sensible debate about specific laws, but blanket statements about absolute freedom or absolute security are essentially meaningless.
OK, then we should disband all our armed forces, law enforcement agencies and the judicial system: we obviously can't have any security at all, as it inevitably curtails our freedom to some extent.
Think about the word degrees. You have 360 degrees in a circle.
So what? Why not have 360 temperature degrees then? Or 365 because that's how many days there are in a year?
For practical use the unit is about half the size of the unit in celsius which give you finer granularity but not a ridiculous amount so the need for a decimal place is less common.
For everyday use, a Celsius degree is as close as you need. You don't get weather forecasts saying "24.5 degrees today". And who cares whether it's 76 or 77 degrees Fahrenheit?
You have generations of people that are used to cups, quarts, pounds, ounces, miles, feet, inches, and yards
The last generation that this applies to are already over 60, and kids now have no real idea about these measures. Pretty much everything in shops uses imperial measures.
Cameron is desperate for anything that sounds like an idea.
These private companies are being restricted from their work by a court order. Thats an example of regulation, nothing to do with, "the invisible hand of the free market".
It was part of the deal when they bid. All but the most extreme libertarian free-marketers acknowledge that you need some form of contract law in a civilised society.
Moreover, it is virtually guaranteed that there are no hot women on dating sites that *also* like helictoper simulations, and for that reason alone I don't use those sites.
Pure comedy gold, as with so many of the replies in this thread.
It's just slightly worrying that everyone's serious.
The way it works is, you try to learn a little bit about things like what music they like, what their career and educational choices are, that sort of crap, and then you assure them that it's these things that you're interested in, even though you'd already decided you were attracted to them before you knew their name.
If you do it smoothly, they'll let you fuck them.
Always interesting to hear the views of virgins here.
And besides, men are VISUAL...we become interested by how women look first and foremost in most cases. I'm certainly not going to be wasting my time and efforts of women I can't see first.
That's just nature.
Scavenging for scraps of raw rat from wild dogs, dying of dysentery or a gangrenous broken leg, smelling like a tramp's arsehole all day, watching 9 out of 10 of your children die from malnutrition - that's nature.
Further, if the NSA.CIA/whatever says you are a commie, pedophile, adulterer, drug dealer, etc., how can you answer that accusation?
With the truth, via the criminal justice system.
If you actually are a pedophile/drug-dealer (not sure that being a commie or adulterer is illegal any more) and the government have actual evidence against you, tough, you have broken the law.
If people who have serious security preoccupations (drug dealers, pedophiles, etc...) are dumb enough to get caught due to human error (and probably not doing their homework), why exactly do the NSA, FBI, CIA, MI6, GCHQ, DGSE, FSB, BND, etc... etc... have to trace everything we do or say online?
At the risk of stating the obvious, you can't rely on all of the narco-terrorists and ISIL-supporting pedophiles being equally careless.
In Big Business, it's always better to save money today, even at the expense of losing tons of money later
If you're an auditor or CFO or something for a big company, I'll believe you.
Otherwise, it's just hot air.
I remember running OS-9 on a Color Computer 2 with a 0.895 MHz 6809E, that only had 64KB and only one floppy.
I can't wait to see the next reply.
Anything that doesn't run on valves is dangerously cutting edge to some people...
Or were you talking about something else?
Imagine McCarthyism
Yes, luckily we never had the real thing here in the UK, unlike the home of freedom.
I really wish the British would learn the differences between a pedophile, child pornographer and child molester already. And that being a pedophile is not a crime.
Another Yank without a clue. "Child molesting" is rape, and is a crime. Possession or creation of "child pornography" (i.e. portrayals of child rape) is a less serious crime, but quite rightly still a crime.
Simply being a paedophile and not acting on it is no more illegal than being a Holocaust denier or goat-fucker.
If you aren't doing anything illegal online (pirating, illegal pornography, planning terrorism) these laws won't affect you
Remember, innocent people have nothing to fear.
However you aren't the one who gets to define "innocent".
No, society does.
As long as we can bear arms in the open, why not?
Good luck with your coonskin cap, never say die attitude and hunting rifle against an F-16 or cruise missile.
meh, in the UK you're going to need to do some things with computers nowadays, if you for example want to drive a car you own...
So what? Your name and address are on your driving licence and you have to pay road tax anyway. Registering electronically is no different from doing it by paper.
would you really not mind having your bank accounts printed on the local newspaper? really really? or your family photos you just sent to your uncle? really really really?
In what fantasy world would the government print details of your bank account or family snaps in the local newspaper?
the laws potentially affect you, say, if your local copper envied something you had and wanted to hurt you with some crap he could dig up without a warrant.. because uh, that's what we are actually talking about when we talk about mass surveillance gathering that's searchable - gathering that just gets everything and is later searchable for 'clues' by anyone with access at will.
If the police "wanted to hurt you with some crap" I'm pretty sure they wouldn't need electronic information to do so. The protection against that is the rule of law, i.e. police being policed themselves. If that doesn't work, it's irrelevant whether they are using copies of your embarrassing dick picks or confessions beaten out of you with rubber hoses.
Those Tories that you decry for wanting rid of it are the same party that were extremely influential in drafting and spreading them across Europe.
Dave Cameron's bunch of second hand car salesman bear little relation to the Tory party of Winston Churchill.
Oh, and who wants elected judges anyway?
Civilization is a question of compromises. You can have a sensible debate about specific laws, but blanket statements about absolute freedom or absolute security are essentially meaningless.
OK, then we should disband all our armed forces, law enforcement agencies and the judicial system: we obviously can't have any security at all, as it inevitably curtails our freedom to some extent.
Think about the word degrees. You have 360 degrees in a circle.
So what? Why not have 360 temperature degrees then? Or 365 because that's how many days there are in a year?
For practical use the unit is about half the size of the unit in celsius which give you finer granularity but not a ridiculous amount so the need for a decimal place is less common.
For everyday use, a Celsius degree is as close as you need. You don't get weather forecasts saying "24.5 degrees today". And who cares whether it's 76 or 77 degrees Fahrenheit?
You have generations of people that are used to cups, quarts, pounds, ounces, miles, feet, inches, and yards
The last generation that this applies to are already over 60, and kids now have no real idea about these measures. Pretty much everything in shops uses imperial measures.
Cameron is desperate for anything that sounds like an idea.
Other than the fact that without a government contract they can't see a way of making any profit, of course.
These private companies are being restricted from their work by a court order. Thats an example of regulation, nothing to do with, "the invisible hand of the free market".
It was part of the deal when they bid. All but the most extreme libertarian free-marketers acknowledge that you need some form of contract law in a civilised society.
And every time you masturbate, you kill millions of little potential Einsteins.
It reads more like the rambling of someone embarking on an impressive psychotic episode.
I think your sample size needs to be increased somewhat
Moreover, it is virtually guaranteed that there are no hot women on dating sites that *also* like helictoper simulations, and for that reason alone I don't use those sites.
Pure comedy gold, as with so many of the replies in this thread.
It's just slightly worrying that everyone's serious.
The way it works is, you try to learn a little bit about things like what music they like, what their career and educational choices are, that sort of crap, and then you assure them that it's these things that you're interested in, even though you'd already decided you were attracted to them before you knew their name.
If you do it smoothly, they'll let you fuck them.
Always interesting to hear the views of virgins here.
And besides, men are VISUAL...we become interested by how women look first and foremost in most cases. I'm certainly not going to be wasting my time and efforts of women I can't see first.
That's just nature.
Scavenging for scraps of raw rat from wild dogs, dying of dysentery or a gangrenous broken leg, smelling like a tramp's arsehole all day, watching 9 out of 10 of your children die from malnutrition - that's nature.
That was...beautiful.
Further, if the NSA.CIA/whatever says you are a commie, pedophile, adulterer, drug dealer, etc., how can you answer that accusation?
With the truth, via the criminal justice system.
If you actually are a pedophile/drug-dealer (not sure that being a commie or adulterer is illegal any more) and the government have actual evidence against you, tough, you have broken the law.
If you consider something not to be a crime, then you should go about finding enough people to support you in changing the law.
If people who have serious security preoccupations (drug dealers, pedophiles, etc...) are dumb enough to get caught due to human error (and probably not doing their homework), why exactly do the NSA, FBI, CIA, MI6, GCHQ, DGSE, FSB, BND, etc... etc... have to trace everything we do or say online?
At the risk of stating the obvious, you can't rely on all of the narco-terrorists and ISIL-supporting pedophiles being equally careless.