One of the suspects was wearing his hat backwards in the video. Now really if you are wearing a hat to hide your face from security cams that is about as dumb a thing as you can do.
Maybe he has a very distincitve scar on the back of his head/neck.
See, I can do internet crime-sleuthing with no real evidence too.
Not sure if it helps with the case but I noticed these two are going for a "yin yang" theme. One has a white hat, the other has a black. One wears it backwards the other forwards. One is wearing tan, the other black pants. The black hat has white on it which must represent the white dot in the black yang, and the man with the white hat has a black emblem on the white yin. Yin-yang implies they are complementary, not opposing forces. And, it shows that they probably believe that they had to commit this atrocity to transform society. A shadow cannot exist without light. There was probably some meaning in the fact that they placed two bombs that were built differently as well. You might want to ask school teachers / students / parents about anyone who had a predilection for yin-yang and opposing concepts, maybe they liked drawing the symbols in notebooks. Also, this pattern is bound to show up frequently as more details about the case come out. I'm willing to bet there's a lot of duality and philosophy being applied here.
In that case shouldn't one of them have been male and the other female, since that is the primary meaning of yin and yang?
If there's one thing I can't stand it's people who won't own up to their own actions. He's been identified by 4chan as the bomber, so he should just confess and have done with it.
Answer me this: what's his alibi? Because I think there's pretty conclusive evidence that he was near the scene of the bombings. What more do you want, a waterboarded confession?
Compare CSI with one of the reality cop shows. IRL the cops spend hours planning a drug raid, they burst into the house and find a bunch of students with 2 rocks of crack and a few crumbs of cannabis and proclaim it a major triumph in the war on drugs. Or someone has a fight outside a pub and gets taken to hospital with a minor head wound, then gets to sleep off the drink in the police cells overnight. A teenager gets stopped for doing 36 in a 30 mph limit and the cops act like they're a serial killer.
Yes, but please for the love of $deity don't let them program search databases. I cringe every time when they do a fingerprint or photo match on CSI. Instead of looking for the file, it painstakingly takes every picture from the database, displays it, finds out that it doesn't match... rinse repeat.
I hate to break it to you, but CSI is not a gritty documentary series. It's...how can I put this? Well, it's ALL MADE UP. That's right, they're showing a load of lies, all in the name of "entertainment". Bastards.
Well done for not actually using the word "sheeple". It must have been a tough job.
The thing is, you can believe what the fuck you want, but it is the job of professional law enforcement to catch criminals. I quite like it that way, rather than relying on the geniuses at 4chan to decide to take time off from ruining the lives of young teenage girls with webcams.
Even worse is the New York Post which posted the reddit/4chan pictures on their front page and said the pictures were being distributed by "Authorities" and "Law Enforcement". Not sure if reddit is the Authorities and 4chan Law Enforcement or the other way around.
Occupy wall street went away because half of them realized it is better to search for jobs than to ask the media and politicians where they are. The other half are still there, with their neon dyed hair, peace signs drawn on their faces, stolen ipads, guy fawkes masks, and all. The people I described there wonder why they don't have a job, and they'll never stop wondering why to be quite honest.
Yes, wasn't it lucky that those in power didn't have to resort to late night raids, illegal confiscation of property and so on?
Since you had the courage to post with your account, I decided not to down-mod you, but ask you a counter-question: How?
Under which guideline would you have down-modded his post? I don't have points myself right now, but I don't remember there being an option in the dropdown for "Unlikeable."
Hysterical bigotry with no logic or appeal to facts generally comes under the heading of "flamebait" if it's intended seriously and "troll" if it's just done to cause a reaction.
Some of us wait for our news to be be verified by a proper news source like the BBC or a decent newspaper quoting an actual law enforcement officer before assuming that someone is a suspect.
I wonder if they tried. I know from various TV documentaries that it works.
The really clever bit is when they turn a 2D photo into 3D then spin it through 180 degrees so you can see the suspect's face and not just the back of his head. It makes you wonder how criminals get away with anything nowadays.
And none of them match the FBI's person of interest description.
What about the two guys, one with the black backpack, the other with a shoulder type bag, who are later seen heading in the direction of where the second bomb went off, one of them no longer with a bag?
You do realise the bare possibility that, in the aftermath of the shock of having a fucking bomb go off next to him, and possibly seeing his friend's leg blown off, he dropped the bag in a state of some little confusion?
The two best disguises for a terrorist I can think of are:
1. A normal-looking, middle-aged. white, middle class guy with a travelling salsman-type job, car, suburban house and family. You can go most places without question, no one's going to remember a guy in a cheap suit eating a sandwich in his car at lunchtime (or whatever).
2. A youngish student in a student city. No matter what colour you dye your hair, or how late you wander around singing drunkenly, no one's going to bat an eyelid.
. In your words, "most other rational thinking people" often throw the stereotype around that if you grew up poor then you will be poor your whole life, that you will end up in jail as a criminal most likely for drugs or gang violence, an so on. A person should not be judged on where they came from, grew up, race, etc. Their own merits speak all on their own. Look at that.
Nonsense. It is a simple fact that most people born poor stay poor. It's not a question of judging them, just looking at the statistical probabilities.
The fact that you as an individual are no longer poor says absolutely nothing about whether most people born poor stay that way. Any real world situation has outliers.
It is pure rightwing elitist-individualistic garbage to say that anyone can make anything of themselves, and that therefore we shouldn't worry about poverty, racism or anything else because if you're strong enough you'll rise above your beginnings.
So you are asserting that if there was an 8 p.m. curfew with shoot-to-kill orders for the police that nighttime crime would not decrease?
What I think you would get is a lot of heavily armed well-organised criminal gangs acting proactively to kill any police they came across. So nighttime crime could well increase.
Who said mentally ill people should be "put down"? They should be medically treated, and if necessary restrained to stop them hurting themselves or others.
Do YOU think that someone diagnosed with a mental illness should be able to buy a gun? I do, because I realize that the term "mental illness" is absurdly broad.
No it isn't. "Mental illness" is a clinical diagnosis. Calling yourself depressed because you're a bit fed up is not.
On the subject of guns, anyone who has shown serious signs of harming themselves or others should not be allowed anywhere near firearms, simple as that. And no, I don't care about their fucking constitutional right to bear arms. The safety of the community as a whole is more important than your ability to express yourself creatively through violence.
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One of the suspects was wearing his hat backwards in the video. Now really if you are wearing a hat to hide your face from security cams that is about as dumb a thing as you can do.
Maybe he has a very distincitve scar on the back of his head/neck.
See, I can do internet crime-sleuthing with no real evidence too.
Not sure if it helps with the case but I noticed these two are going for a "yin yang" theme. One has a white hat, the other has a black. One wears it backwards the other forwards. One is wearing tan, the other black pants. The black hat has white on it which must represent the white dot in the black yang, and the man with the white hat has a black emblem on the white yin. Yin-yang implies they are complementary, not opposing forces. And, it shows that they probably believe that they had to commit this atrocity to transform society. A shadow cannot exist without light. There was probably some meaning in the fact that they placed two bombs that were built differently as well. You might want to ask school teachers / students / parents about anyone who had a predilection for yin-yang and opposing concepts, maybe they liked drawing the symbols in notebooks. Also, this pattern is bound to show up frequently as more details about the case come out. I'm willing to bet there's a lot of duality and philosophy being applied here.
In that case shouldn't one of them have been male and the other female, since that is the primary meaning of yin and yang?
Sorry to shit in your cornflakes.
I'd say that the Swedes and Finns are looking pretty safe right now. Not one of theirs.
Yes, because all Swedes and Finns are blue-eyed blonds, just like all neo nazis are.
Answer me this: what's his alibi? Because I think there's pretty conclusive evidence that he was near the scene of the bombings. What more do you want, a waterboarded confession?
It doesn't really make for great drama.
Yes, but please for the love of $deity don't let them program search databases. I cringe every time when they do a fingerprint or photo match on CSI. Instead of looking for the file, it painstakingly takes every picture from the database, displays it, finds out that it doesn't match... rinse repeat.
I hate to break it to you, but CSI is not a gritty documentary series. It's...how can I put this? Well, it's ALL MADE UP. That's right, they're showing a load of lies, all in the name of "entertainment". Bastards.
The thing is, you can believe what the fuck you want, but it is the job of professional law enforcement to catch criminals. I quite like it that way, rather than relying on the geniuses at 4chan to decide to take time off from ruining the lives of young teenage girls with webcams.
Even worse is the New York Post which posted the reddit/4chan pictures on their front page and said the pictures were being distributed by "Authorities" and "Law Enforcement". Not sure if reddit is the Authorities and 4chan Law Enforcement or the other way around.
Oh dear God, truly the End Times have come.
Occupy wall street went away because half of them realized it is better to search for jobs than to ask the media and politicians where they are. The other half are still there, with their neon dyed hair, peace signs drawn on their faces, stolen ipads, guy fawkes masks, and all. The people I described there wonder why they don't have a job, and they'll never stop wondering why to be quite honest.
Yes, wasn't it lucky that those in power didn't have to resort to late night raids, illegal confiscation of property and so on?
If you don't have the picture expanded, he looks a lot like Bieber. Please let it be Bieber...
I'm not normally in favour of vigilante justice, but I'd be prepared to make an exception in this case.
If idiotic racism is your answer, you're phrasing the question wrong.
Since you had the courage to post with your account, I decided not to down-mod you, but ask you a counter-question: How?
Under which guideline would you have down-modded his post? I don't have points myself right now, but I don't remember there being an option in the dropdown for "Unlikeable."
Hysterical bigotry with no logic or appeal to facts generally comes under the heading of "flamebait" if it's intended seriously and "troll" if it's just done to cause a reaction.
And why do you need permission from daddy government for doing it?
Why do you need "daddy government" to punish rapists and murderers? Surely it would be better left to the free market?
What the fuck are you talking about?
Some of us wait for our news to be be verified by a proper news source like the BBC or a decent newspaper quoting an actual law enforcement officer before assuming that someone is a suspect.
Computer, enhance!
I wonder if they tried. I know from various TV documentaries that it works.
The really clever bit is when they turn a 2D photo into 3D then spin it through 180 degrees so you can see the suspect's face and not just the back of his head. It makes you wonder how criminals get away with anything nowadays.
Off hand I'm pretty sure those two guys are some sort of police that are trying to keep a low profile.
I thought "not-very-convincingly-civilian-looking off-duty military" myself. But they could equally have just been a couple of butch gays.
And none of them match the FBI's person of interest description.
What about the two guys, one with the black backpack, the other with a shoulder type bag, who are later seen heading in the direction of where the second bomb went off, one of them no longer with a bag?
You do realise the bare possibility that, in the aftermath of the shock of having a fucking bomb go off next to him, and possibly seeing his friend's leg blown off, he dropped the bag in a state of some little confusion?
I expect conspiracy theorists are already working on this.
1. A normal-looking, middle-aged. white, middle class guy with a travelling salsman-type job, car, suburban house and family. You can go most places without question, no one's going to remember a guy in a cheap suit eating a sandwich in his car at lunchtime (or whatever).
2. A youngish student in a student city. No matter what colour you dye your hair, or how late you wander around singing drunkenly, no one's going to bat an eyelid.
I don't care whether you're Asian, black or Inuit, you're fucking delusional.
. In your words, "most other rational thinking people" often throw the stereotype around that if you grew up poor then you will be poor your whole life, that you will end up in jail as a criminal most likely for drugs or gang violence, an so on. A person should not be judged on where they came from, grew up, race, etc. Their own merits speak all on their own. Look at that.
Nonsense. It is a simple fact that most people born poor stay poor. It's not a question of judging them, just looking at the statistical probabilities.
The fact that you as an individual are no longer poor says absolutely nothing about whether most people born poor stay that way. Any real world situation has outliers.
It is pure rightwing elitist-individualistic garbage to say that anyone can make anything of themselves, and that therefore we shouldn't worry about poverty, racism or anything else because if you're strong enough you'll rise above your beginnings.
So you are asserting that if there was an 8 p.m. curfew with shoot-to-kill orders for the police that nighttime crime would not decrease?
What I think you would get is a lot of heavily armed well-organised criminal gangs acting proactively to kill any police they came across. So nighttime crime could well increase.
In a police state, more people become criminals.
The connection with trannys escapes me.
Do YOU think that someone diagnosed with a mental illness should be able to buy a gun? I do, because I realize that the term "mental illness" is absurdly broad.
No it isn't. "Mental illness" is a clinical diagnosis. Calling yourself depressed because you're a bit fed up is not.
On the subject of guns, anyone who has shown serious signs of harming themselves or others should not be allowed anywhere near firearms, simple as that. And no, I don't care about their fucking constitutional right to bear arms. The safety of the community as a whole is more important than your ability to express yourself creatively through violence.