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FBI Releases Boston Bombing Suspect Images/Videos
An anonymous reader writes "The FBI has released images of what they say are two suspects with backpacks and ball caps. 'Somebody out there knows these individuals as friends, neighbors, co-workers or family members of the suspects,' Special Agent Rick DesLauriers, the head of the FBI's Boston office said. 'And though it may be difficult, the nation is counting on those with information to come forward and provide it to us.'"
http://i.imgur.com/I1dF69f.jpg left of the screen with white hat
Any chance of running these through Facebook's face recognition? That stuff is frighteningly accurate
Dead men walking.
There are cheap cameras today that do full HD, low artifacts, and run 30 frames a second. These images were from old equipment and software. The smudged faces is that. They should be replaced. All replaced. The city I live has less than one FPS on its non-traffic cameras. It's pathetic what salesman push on the HLS-cash-infused cities when cheaper, and much better, hardware and software is available right now. You get what you pay for, and sometimes, not even that.
All the money in "defense spending" both internal and international and we're crowdsourcing their jobs?
Allright, let the FBI go on looking without any help from the general public, some of whom will know these two. That should give these two time to perform an attack on the people you know and love. Sheesh.
No, idiot, they're asking people who were in Boston on Monday taking pictures with their smartphones to look through their photos again. Chances are lots of people inadvertently got photos of the guys, and some of those might be clear enough for identification (as opposed to the crummy security cam footage).
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The only 2 men with a black backpack that 4chan and reddit didn't accuse.
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
There's a fine line between soliciting public support and encouraging vigilante justice.
... now might not be a bad choice.
Though, if there ever was a time that we needed the detective
- Nec Impar Pluribus, or so I'm told.
We need that magical "enhance" and "ZOOM!" functions!
This is seriously the best resolution they can pull off those camera's?
I looked at the pictures and I think it would be pretty hard to identify anyone based on what I see there. I would assume the FBI has access to image enhancement technologies such as superresolution (e.g., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superresolution) - but it sure does not look like it based on these pictures. Does anyone have any idea about how much image enhancement was done on these pictures? Could superresolution techniques be used here to further enhance the images?
you are right, anytime you go somehwere there should be an agent asking for your papers and your reason to be there
though I have a question...
how retarded are you?
"False Flag" .. it's undemocratic.
I'm surprised they couldn't clean up the images more. Clearly you can't do much with a single image since there's only so much information, but with a video you're getting a slightly different set of information with each frame, I always figured you could do a mapping/averaging of all the different shots and extract something a little cleaner. Unfortunately it looks like that's not the case (or at least it doesn't work well here).
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I hope they're the ones that did it, because whether they are or not, in the eyes of a public starving for villains to blame they're now as good as guilty.
I'm still trying to figure out if the black-cap guy identified by the FBI is the same guy as the apparently Craft International (Blackwater-like mercenary) guy identified by storyleak.com, and if so, why the FBI hasn't released a clearer image of the cap logo?
There are cheap cameras today that do full HD, low artifacts, and run 30 frames a second. These images were from old equipment and software. The smudged faces is that. They should be replaced.
No need for that. The police just has to call the crime lab at CSI Miami or Chloe down at the CTU. If all the moles have been properly smoked out from those organizations it should be possible to get 3D pictures of both suspects.
lucm, indeed.
"Enhance."
There were at least 4 Craft guys. They had radiation detectors on site and were caught on camera using them after the explosion. They were private contractors, not official government agents. All 4 Craft guys are well known to the FBI and were acting on behalf of the organizers of the event. This is something they do frequently.
Frames are not similar enough to do averaging in a 1 fps "video".
You could identify anyone with those pics. Put a basecap on a dog and it should work if his muzzle ain't too long.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
They just aren't yelling "ENHANCE" loud enough yet. Give it time...
There are cheap cameras today that do full HD, low artifacts, and run 30 frames a second. These images were from old equipment and software. The smudged faces is that. They should be replaced. All replaced. The city I live has less than one FPS on its non-traffic cameras. It's pathetic what salesman push on the HLS-cash-infused cities when cheaper, and much better, hardware and software is available right now. You get what you pay for, and sometimes, not even that.
These look like local business security cams -- who is going to pay the businesses to replace the cameras and DVR's every year to keep up with the latest and greatest technology? Or do you think the government should blanket every public space with hi-def facial recognition cameras covering every inch of every public space so they are prepared for the next time this happens?
Don't forget to factor in the storage needs - my "action cam" generates 8GB of data/hour for 1080p 30fps -- if a small municipality has 200 cameras, that's over 1 Petabyte of data/month. Video compression can help, but only to a point since you don't want to lose any of that high resolution that your expensive camera is providing. And at around 20mbit/sec of data per camera, that's 4 gbit/sec of network bandwidth. And of course, someone has to monitor and repair those cameras - every time someone paints over the lens or otherwise damages the camera, someone's got to go out and fix it. There's no telling whether spraypaint over the lens is random graffiti or a precursor to an attack.
It's certainly a solvable problem - casinos are reported to have hundreds or thousands of cameras throughout the facility, but implementing such a system is not cheap, good thing casinos have people handing over bucketloads of cash to pay for it.
They know the resolution stinks. What they are hoping for is that people will go through their personal photos that they took which are much better resolution and notice that one of them may be in the background.
I wonder if it makes sense to create an open online database where people can upload their images and then eventually some [assisted] face match software can sift through thousands such images to identify people. this could also double as a missing persons finder/registry in the event of a hurricane/tsunami like major disaster.
Be civil.
Not sure if it helps with the case but I noticed these two are going for a "yin yang" theme. One has a white hat, the other has a black. One wears it backwards the other forwards. One is wearing tan, the other black pants. The black hat has white on it which must represent the white dot in the black yang, and the man with the white hat has a black emblem on the white yin. Yin-yang implies they are complementary, not opposing forces. And, it shows that they probably believe that they had to commit this atrocity to transform society. A shadow cannot exist without light. There was probably some meaning in the fact that they placed two bombs that were built differently as well. You might want to ask school teachers / students / parents about anyone who had a predilection for yin-yang and opposing concepts, maybe they liked drawing the symbols in notebooks. Also, this pattern is bound to show up frequently as more details about the case come out. I'm willing to bet there's a lot of duality and philosophy being applied here.
The guy in the white hat is certainly a pasty faced white male who doesn't get any sun.
The other guy isn't as clear, or as blazing white. Could be tanned, or Hispanic, Mideastern or Asian. The only thing I am certain of is that he isn't Black or an albino.
Yeah, and to be fair, we wouldn't allow the FBI to install fancy pants HD camera's anyhow like the UK so this would be a non issue *ducks*
Civility is the last thing needed when dealing with fucksucking shitbags.
Where are the pictures of them dropping and leaving the backpacks in the exact spots the explosions took place? You could pick out dozens of people in the crowd walking around with backpacks. There's nothing conclusive here.
There are cheap cameras today that do full HD, low artifacts, and run 30 frames a second. These images were from old equipment and software. The smudged faces is that. They should be replaced. All replaced. The city I live has less than one FPS on its non-traffic cameras. It's pathetic what salesman push on the HLS-cash-infused cities when cheaper, and much better, hardware and software is available right now. You get what you pay for, and sometimes, not even that.
There are also completely fake security cameras. They're just deterrents and if shitty (or fake) security cameras have a clear crime reducing effect, it's harder to justify the cost of replacing them. Now that good pictures are actually needed many people will react like you do but as soon as these guys are caught, any spending on security cameras will again simply be a matter of reducing crime and whether the reason cameras do so by acting as a deterrent or as an actual aid in catching criminals will be fairly irrelevant.
They white boys alright. Registered republicans too
As usual, with the camera being slightly above the target, the angle of these security cameras are fairly bad if the perp is wearing a hat. Seeing as cameras are now tiny, it's time to start mounting them at about the 5 foot level. It's so much easier to identify a person at that angle. This would explain why they're looking for somebody with a cell phone picture.
White hat superficially resembles Aaron Swartz. Not saying it's intentional, but there is a resemblance.
I wonder if the FBI read Slashdot? I bear a moderate similarity (in profile) to the man in the white cap. Same hair, same nose, etc. However, I have a water-tight alibi - I was 16,000km away and in bed at the time.
And this is why people are scared of Google Glass--it'll make an already existing problem worse; that is, the government will outsource its spying to the people.
To my very untrained eye it also seems like there are a couple other tailing people (red cap and yellow jacket). How two are suspects and the other two are not... Maybe the two suspect backpacks were found to be the blast sources?
Occupy Wall Street showed that when the US Gov't wants a protest movement to go away, it does. So who really cares if we're being watched? What difference does it make from a practical standpoint. Plus, if we can catch these sort of things it's one less excuse for pointless wars against anybody with a turban and brown skin, and one less excuse for Patriot Acts.
All you're really giving up anyway is the illusion of freedom you don't have. Real freedom is economic freedom, and OWS showed us who's really in control.
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On the contrary, it's is where you need it the utmost, lest you steep down to their level. When you look into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you...
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dont you mean shitsucking fuckbags? sounds more accurate?
Worked for CSI:
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Apparently being anti-Steam is grounds for insults, even if there's basis. I shall learn to keep my mouth shut.
This is ridiculous. Are we seriously saying that the suspect description for a bombing at a marathon is anyone who had a backpack?
It's OK Bender, there's no such thing as 2.
Fuck you and your damned Nietzsche
How much trouble could it be for the coders of Slashdot to really limit the length of the initial part of posts to limit the nuisance caused by the person who keeps posting lengthy nonsense? It sounds like an easy fix which should be done immediately.
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According to a retired deputy in Florida the bag that has been shown at the railing was his, and was gone before the explosion.
That old guy in the blue top in the foreground looks way too happy. I reckon it was him.
It's OK Bender, there's no such thing as 2.
Since you had the courage to post with your account, I decided not to down-mod you, but ask you a counter-question: How?
Many countries have problems with selective interpretations of religion (including Christianity - abortion clinics, for example). How would you prevent such behavior? By outlawing a religion (Won't help - you don't declare your religion upon entry into the US)? How about ethnic cleansing (huge collateral damage)?
And if you resort to such techniques, what does it say about the robustness of your country's ideals? If you drop them at the first sign of trouble, are they really worth preserving? India (the world's largest democracy) has had attacks for decades (citation). And they haven't spent years interfering in the Middle East. So if you have a workable solution, I'd love to hear it.
There are 1.4 billion Muslims worldwide. If it's the Muslims, you're fucked.
The guy in the white hat is certainly a pasty faced white male who doesn't get any sun.
Take a look at his nose and the black bushy hair. Light skinned, but definitely middle-eastern decent of some sort.
LOL you make it sound like they're doing it completely out of the blue and American troops aren't occupying some of their countries. I don't agree with terrorism, but come on, you can't just get pissed because they won't just let America run them over. If you're in a fight with somebody (for any reason), you have to expect to get hit back sometimes. Get a grip on reality. Besides, what Islamic extremists have bombed America in the past 4 or 5 years? I don't recall any. Also, we have no idea why the Boston bombings happened yet, but it doesn't ring of Islam, I can tell ya that much.
"existing problem"? What problem? FBI asking Americans to look at their photos in order to help identify and question suspects who *bombed* innocent civilians at a freaking marathon? What is so terrible about that? You freaking nuts are sick.
Well, it's counter to American culture, and it will take a couple of generations, but the 'how' is through education. Fund schools in Pakistan and Afghanistan and Yemen and Sudan. Support local politicians, through dollars, who endorse education of their people, particularly girls. More than anything else, the Mullahs fear an educated populace. Educate them out of ignorance and terror.
I'm surprised that the doubting Thomases are getting so many mod points around here today. There is no better facial recognition system in the world than the human brain. The pictures are worthlessly low-res and indiscriminate? Someone who knows these individuals will correlate the physical details of the face, the expression, the height, haircut, posture, and clothing instantly and unconsciously. They will be recognized. Those acquaintances can see the forest. All we are getting is trees.
And to cover the other criticism of why these two were chosen... Both were seen walking together with black backpacks. Then each one was seen individually right at one of the two bomb sites. In the case of suspect #2, there is video of him putting his backpack down and then walking away from it. Personally I agree that this is sufficient to refer to both individuals as "suspects."
Since you had the courage to post with your account, I decided not to down-mod you, but ask you a counter-question: How?
Under which guideline would you have down-modded his post? I don't have points myself right now, but I don't remember there being an option in the dropdown for "Unlikeable."
About 70% of bombings conducted in the US since 9/11 have been conducted by neo-nazis and similar radical groups.
http://homegrown.newamerica.net/map
Maybe he was lazy and overstayed his student visa instead of renewing it, and thus deserves to be deported. And maybe he's the brat of some rich saudi connected to the government, and they don't want a big scene.
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Not that I'm condoning any violence but when a bunch of Saudis brought down your towers you did use it to justify killing a lot more than 3000 innocent Muslims... Look at it from another perspective. You're a huge and powerful country that thought you were completely justified to kill a bunch of innocents. Why would a hurting and disillusioned Muslim feel bad about taking the hurt to you? From my perspective you both have pretty similar attitudes. If you want to claim the moral high ground you have to earn it.
Additionally, as the other poster said there is currently no link between this bombing and Islam. So you're either a troll or a racist, probably both.
I don't think the AC is saying it is justified so much as he is suggesting that you look at why these things might be happening. Besides, aren't you the one trying to say that this bombing justifies "doing something" about Muslims?
Quod erat demonstrandum
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Can they be seen in the videos/photos of the live fire exercises that occurred in downtown miami earlier this year? http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/01/25/blackhawks-used-in-military-training-exercise-in-miami/ is the only non-wacko-paranoid news site I can find that mentions it, though I remember more sites inculding the miami newspaper mentioning it when it happened. That CBS link also mentions
The training is designed to ensure that military personnel are able to operate in urban areas and to focus on preparations for overseas deployment. It also serves as a mandatory training certification requirement.
A similar operation took place in April 2011 in Miami's Brickell area, which frightened many residents in the area.
This time, the training operations were held away from residential areas.
spying is tapping phones and hiding cameras in a home's air ducts or reading private e-mail. Not looking through photos of people walking down the street. That's why they call it "in public."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF_qQYrCcns
I agree. We should catch them, try them and if guilty fry them. No reason not to be civil.
Er, how do you know they are muslim? That bit hasn't been found out yet. And if they were, to be fair, you have been bombing quite a few of their countries for quite a few years now. You expect zero backlash?
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It is an easy fix that should be done immediately. Unfortunately, they posted the job on dice.com... Poster child for the danger of dogfooding.
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
Mind you the average person in the US isn't terribly bright.
The US governance also fears an educated population. Educate them out of ignorance and wars on terror.
How much trouble could it be for the coders of Slashdot to really limit the length of the initial part of posts to limit the nuisance caused by the person who keeps posting lengthy nonsense? It sounds like an easy fix which should be done immediately.
OMG Please yes! GP had 727 lines of SPAM before the slashcode cut off the text. That's abnormal. Tangentially related: does anyone know of a HOSTS-file based method to filter out those posts? *evilgrin*
the abyss also looks into you...
And that's a Problem, amirite?
What about Timothy McVeigh? Are you saying it's ok for US military veterans to kill kids at a day care center? Are you saying it's justified for NRA members to blow up buildings? Should we look the other way when American raised as Catholics commit mass murder?
No, I think you would disagree. Because in those instances we're tying one nutjob murderer to larger groups that he is not a representative member of. So why do you make that same mistake with muslims, assuming they're all evil or that there's a vast muslim movement to destroy the US? Are you listening to too much of the far right wing media that keeps insisting that muslims are the enemy, spending too much time reading WorldNet Daily, going to one of those churches who falsely teach that islam is a religion of violence while overlooking all the violence that Christians have committed?
And why do you think this bombing was the result of muslims in the first place?
The USA is two hundred years old. It has no culture.
Sorry you wrong, if you do simple research you will find out the terrorist that have gotten caught are almost all College educated.
2) declaration of dictatorship
Him and what army? Any U.S. President who tried that would lose their control of the military. Military members swear to defend the constitution. If a president wanted dictatorship, martial law with suspension of elections would be a better choice, but that would require something so severe that it would cause the American Civil War to pale in comparison, considering the elections still happened then.
http://emergency.mit.net/
...as a statistician, I feel obliged to point out that racial profiling by security forces is probably biasing the results.
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The terrorists who hijacked the planes and then slammed them into the World Trade Center (and the Pentagon and the one which crashed in Pennsylvania) were ALL college educated
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What about Timothy McVeigh? Are you saying it's ok for US military veterans to kill kids at a day care center? Are you saying it's justified for NRA members to blow up buildings?
Nice slander there. Timothy Mcveigh was a former member --he joined while he was in the US Army, but later quit the NRA, viewing its stance on gun rights as too weak.
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I'd like to know how the fuck he does it. Nobody else can get anywhere near that much to show up before the "see entire fucking post" cutoff. Yeah, he double spaces a bunch of shit but there's more than that going on.
Click on the following link ...
http://postimg.org/image/9ovtmetqr/
I've seen enough of faces like the one in the photo above in Pakistan and in Afghanistan to know who they are
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Muslim countries on the whole are black holes of civilization in every way, from human rights to education, not to mention science and technology. Nothing positive has come from Islam for many, many centuries. Islam is a primitive, violent, mind suffocating ideology of fear and oppression and we are trying to drag them out of it's grip and into the modern world even against their will, as it is not in our interest to share the planet with a bunch of medieval ignoramuses armed with nukes. The entire Muslim world, all one billion of them, have accomplished exactly TWO Nobel prizes for Science (both of them Western educated scientists who happen to be Muslim) and few more for Peace, mostly terrorists! Meanwhile 20 million Jews have won 177 Nobel prizes! Islam needs to be radically reformed if the human civilization is to progress and I don't give a crap if Muslims feelings are hurt as there are actually more important things that Muslims feelings. So shove your cultural relativism up your liberal ass.
Negative moral value of force outweighs the positive value of good intentions.
if spree killers usually use guns, then we must do something about all gun owners, right?
This sort of thing causes secondary terrorism of those falsely accused.
Oh shit, now there's a guy shooting police officers at MIT.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/04/theres-shooter-loose-and-officer-down-mit/64379/
You completely ignored the GP's message to spout off your hostile and prejudiced tirade. The question was why do you expect them to give a crap about how innocents in America feel if America doesn't give a crap about their innocents?
That fellow (Jeff Bauman) who lost both legs below the knee, the one whose femoral artery is being pinched shut by Carlos Arredondo as he's being wheeled away from the incident, identified his attacker. From Bloomberg:
"Minutes before the bombs blew up in Boston, Jeff Bauman looked into the eyes of the man who tried to kill him.
Just before 3 p.m. on April 15, Bauman was waiting among the crowd for his girlfriend to cross the finish line at the Boston Marathon. A man wearing a cap, sunglasses and a black jacket over a hooded sweatshirt looked at Jeff, 27, and dropped a bag at his feet, his brother, Chris Bauman, said in an interview.
Two and a half minutes later, the bag exploded, tearing Jeff’s legs apart. A picture of him in a wheelchair, bloodied and ashen, was broadcast around the world as he was rushed to Boston Medical Center. He lost both legs below the knee."
-- http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-19/boston-bombing-victim-in-iconic-photo-helped-identify-attackers.html
Prejudiced? What did I say that isn't a fact? As for the GGP post I was replying to the idea that we have injured Muslims (rather than the other way around) and that we need to somehow try to understand that they might hate us because of that. My point is that in the big scheme of things we have not injured the Muslim world at all, without us (the West) they would be far poorer, far more backwards and pretty much worse off in every single way.
Negative moral value of force outweighs the positive value of good intentions.
Under which guideline would you have down-modded his post? I don't have points myself right now, but I don't remember there being an option in the dropdown for "Unlikeable."
Flame-bait: There is no evidence at this time to back up his hypothesis that it was Islamic fundamentalists. Also, he used a phrase "If the world can't keep Islam and all the Islamic violence out, at least USA can try" - which would seem to imply that he has a problem with the religion and the violence, without differentiating the two (and which planet would he have them relocate to?).
Don't you know? The army of batshit-fucking-crazy delusions in conspiracy nutters' noggins. They have black UN helicopters, for goodness sake!
I'm not trying to slander, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of attributing the sins of a few people onto all the organizations and ethnic groups that they belong to.
An interesting problem, let's see:
Persecutory delusions are usually treated with medications for schizophrenia, especially when positive symptoms are present. Both first-generation antipsychotics and second-generation antipsychotics may be useful. Cognitive behavioral therapy has also been used.
More here.
A signficant cross-section of the people of post-bicentennial continental USA are disadvantaged by their shallowness of cultural tradition.
Who are you to say it is a mistake with Muslims? The Koran tells Muslims to go to war against nonbelievers. Mecca is occupied by the house of Saud which indoctrinates hajj attendees with the Wahhabi doctrine that Muslims are the supreme people who must follow God's command to destroy everyone else. The bestselling book of the 20th century was Sayyid Qutb's Milestones, which argued for Muslims to quit living in peace with the West and start killing people again. Most importantly, those Muslims who do not believe that Muslims must be nutjob murderers have been getting wiped out by those that do, to the point where the "extremists" are now a majority in most Muslim-majority countries. Look at what happened after the nutjobs murdered Salman Taseer. The people of Pakistan came out in large numbers to celebrate the killing of a liberal.
There is in fact a "vast Muslim movement to destroy the US" called the Muslim Brotherhood. You might know them as the Taliban, al-Shabaab, the Syrian "youth movement" "freedom fighters", the "Bosniaks", the "Palestinians", the "Arab Spring", Boko Haram, and the Council on American-Islamic Relations. We used to call them "Nazis." They run the Muslim Student Associations on college campuses. Do some research. I recommend starting with Revolutionary Sudan by Burr and Collins, as it ties many things together.
Two additional "vast Muslim movement[s] to destroy the US" include the Khomeinists and the Lashkar e-Taiba, each of which is strong enough to conquer countries. You really ought to start paying attention to what is going on in the world before you start calling better-informed people ignorant.
It's nice you found links that aren't directly from Glenn Beck but the story line you are propagating is directly from Mr. Conspiracy himself. He's tried to turn every single rumor about this into an attack on Obama, in this case being that the kid is actually involved but connected and so Obama is trying to sneak him out of the country. He doesn't need facts on his side, he relies on innuendo and people like you to propagate the falsehoods. Did you realize you just became a willing participant in a propaganda campaign by a crazy Mormon?
As the other poster said there could be a million reasons to deport him, including that when they searched his apartment they found cannabis or even that his parents asked him to come home so he doesn't get hurt by vigilantes. If I was him I'd think about leaving too, you never know when someone like Glenn Beck is going to point the mob in your direction and laugh all the way to bank when his vigilante mob murders the wrong person.
Low resolution cameras are so yesterday. We use 10Mpixel high definition security cameras at our security gates that can easily identify a person with high accuracy, and they are inexpensive. All existing security cameras across the country, and especially in cities with highly popular mass activities, need to be upgraded from NEARLY USELESS to highly discerning high definition. I feel so sad at all the ancient-technology video security footage you see after every crime, when current cameras at often lower cost, are AMAZING. Please, everyone with a security camera, for the sake of innocent victims, please upgrade your security cameras to high definition. Ok, so you may need to upgrade your security camera servers too. Again, for the sake of the victims, please put it in your budget now !!
just give everyone an IQ test upon entry. set the threshold so very few religious people get in.
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Yea, I felt that way too when the IRA were bombing mainland UK whilst being
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Culture is just a set of preconceived notions. I don't see how that is anything but intellectually limiting.
Someone was watching neil degrasse tyso lol...al-ghazali destroyed the middle east as an intellectual bastion. Who knows what nobel prize discoveries we could have had.
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You can see my dilemma. What if this is merely a ruse by an APK impostor to try and get people to delete APK's messages, perhaps all over the web? I can't be a party to such an event! My involvement with APK began at a very late stage in the game. While APK has made a career of trolling popular online forums since at least the year 2000 (newsgroups and IRC channels before that)- my involvement with APK did not begin until early 2005 . OSY is one of the many forums that APK once frequented before the sane people there grew tired of his garbage and banned him. APK was banned from OSY back in 2001. 3.5 years after his banning he begins to send a variety of abusiv
My country's ideals? I say our ideals should be to lower ourselves to the level of our enemy, when necessary. Certainly Hiroshima and Nagasaki were less than ideal. But they stopped the aggression against us right quick.
Look no further than the KKK to see an extensive history of violence in the USA coming from proud Christians. Thousands of people dead because of a different flavor of intolerance, in a different era. This too shall pass.
I bet lemon-juice boarding would suck. Also firing squads are still technically legal in areas of the us...
You are uncultured, untraveled, uneducated and you live in a tiny bubble.
Sure, just like Christianity died in CCCP.
Oh wait! My bad.
looks like the same dudes 4chan pinned.
hope these fuckers are brought to justice and put down like the dogs they are.
Isn't half of it his signature?
So neo-nazis are less likely to be stopped, you mean?
xkcd is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
America is my country - and they are whacking havoc in my country
It wasn't your country initially. America was taken over by whites as they conquered the indigenous people who dwelled their in the first place. Your attitude holds an inherent flaw. Just like CISPA tries to quantify and regulate the internet and does so in such a brash unfair way, so to do your ideals.
The problem is not Islam it's the way the world is built in general. You can't fix peoples' selfish deluded traits any more than you can stop the Govt from stealing your freedoms in the _name_ of "overall freedom".
The world is not built on conspiracies or plans for world domination, especially not from a bunch of poorly educated religious people who don't know which way is up half the time, rather their pissed off because what their version of Bible camp told them says the reason why they are worthless is because the successful people out there made it this way and so when it suits them they thug around kick dents in our social system i.e "democracy" to make themselves feel better.
The bigger problem is short-sighted ideals such as yours because it tries to close the door in a half baked fashion thinking that will solve the problem if we simply "go after them". Well I'm here to tell you it wont, it just feeds those poorly educated bastards by proving them right even more.
What you should be saying, what is really on your mind, and that is destroy their entire race into submission, genocide, extermination, just like the American Indians. It might confound your "morals" by saying this but it was a tried and true method of solving these sorts of problems before.
As for our civilised approach doesn't "seem" to be working all to well, so I ask, how bloody do you want your hands? And consider this, how much do you want to prove Islam's Bible camp right?
Either laugh or don't post. No-one likes a dick.
Apparently being anti-Steam is grounds for insults, even if there's basis. I shall learn to keep my mouth shut.
I like the 'if guilty' part. I am sure the prisoners in Guantanamo Bay also like that and would welcome it.
I know off topic, but not completely.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
I'm not saying that every Muslim is bad, but the fact is, most of those bombings are connected with Islam ...
And most of the drone strikes on muslims are connected with us.
It shouldn't take a rocket science to see that the "war on terror" is going to generate a backlash. Doesn't matter at all "who started it" or "who is in the right". All that matters at this point is that as long as one side pokes the other side with a stick the other side will poke back.
A war on terror can't be won, it will only generate a perpetual backlash. The only winning move is not to play.
Radio is reporting some commotion outside Boston, with "Fire in the hole!", a concussion, hollering for someone to get on the ground with hands behind their head, requests for reporters to turn off their cell phones.
Also a professor shot on MIT campus; who knows whether it's related.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
I don't see how that is anything but intellectually limiting.
How very American of you.
The rest being done by the other side of the same collectivist coin, the radical leftists, such as this guy: http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/wpvi/cms_exf_2007/news/local/032913_image_Sunil_Tripathi_FB_1.jpg
Negative moral value of force outweighs the positive value of good intentions.
First off, and as far as I know to this hour, there is no link between any middle east groups, and the bombing.
Second there are about 20 groups that call themselves Americans, that would do this, most of them right (far right) winger groups.
I get that is what you are saying.. But on here you need to be clear in how you say it, like the two sentences above. Christians would be the first to use terrorism to take over anything they feared, and to hate what they couldn't explain. That is what cracks me about Christians that complain about Muslim beliefs, and the stereo type that every person who is Muslim has an axe to grind with any and every country.
As dumb and completely irrelevant as this may seem, one could argue that because Christians couldn't convert Muslims, and now Muslim Religion is close to over taking Christian beliefs they want to prevent that from happening. Who may "they" be? Who wouldn't "they" be!! They tried to create an atmosphere in the US and around the world, and still do, over those who are atheists. However in all fairness atheists are not really tabooed anymore in the US...
I would go one step further and say even if you get rid of religion, you have patriotism, which is just as dangerous. And that gets us back to where I started, the right wing groups have there own interpretation of what a country should be and the links they will go to, in order to keep things the way they want them.
Both suspects wear baseball caps. They are baseball fans. Suspect and round up all the baseball players and fans you know. Clearly it is a conspiracy by baseball fans against the rest of us!
Assume you catch these guys, and find the owner of the fertiliser business which blew up in Waco to be negligent.
Which is most likely to receive severe punishment, and which is more deserving of severe punishment?
"I've got more toys than Teruhisa Kitahara."
No, I don't mean that, although it is a byproduct of what I do mean.
Bio questions? Ask me to start a Q&A journal. Computer analogies available for most topics!
Yes, i remember couple news where they have done that video enchancement thing, and to me it looked pretty good. Though could be that they looked away a lot of the time the in the video, and that's pretty much the only good picture there is, or that the software just isn't that good after all.
Since you had the courage to post with your account, I decided not to down-mod you, but ask you a counter-question: How?
Under which guideline would you have down-modded his post? I don't have points myself right now, but I don't remember there being an option in the dropdown for "Unlikeable."
Hysterical bigotry with no logic or appeal to facts generally comes under the heading of "flamebait" if it's intended seriously and "troll" if it's just done to cause a reaction.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
"Support, through dollars"... you mean bribe?
$(echo cm0gLXJmIC8= | base64 --decode)
This isn't simply fear and mis-information. It's caused by an intellectual defect.
The basic one being: What I think/want/do is good. What you think/want/do is irrelevant. This devolves into bullying masked as justifiable violence. Christians are guilty of this as much as Muslims. When, the average voter didn't support the 'weapons of mass destruction' lie, war-mongers started preaching justifiable 'regime change' in Iraq.
The second is a lack of social justice: Loners are alone because they don't want/have the skills/education/mind-set to be one of the happy, unwashed masses. Avoiding those unwashed masses, means avoiding the conflict caused by being inadequate. It also limits their ability to voice their problems and demand compensation when the cold, cruel world lands in their basement. Or a US missile lands in their wedding party. The result is a thirst for extreme revenge. If, the loner also has mental illness, it becomes extreme revenge on everybody.
They aren't stupid, they understand that terrorism works. E.g. in Israel we had a peace process that was going relatively well between the left wing and the PLO. So the Hamas started blowing up buses and the peace process died. Hamas which was marginalized before used that collapse (and rise of Israeli right wing that resulted) to take over Gaza strip after the fact.
So terrorists can come from a very weak position and manipulate public opinion very effectively. E.g. before 911 no one cared much about Bin Laden, now the "arab spring" is turning into religious governments who shape more after Iran than after the USA... As engineers they are remarkably effective at manipulating us (or really the dumber element of our society)
Do you know what a suspect is? The only thing more disgusting than that attitude is the fact that it got modded insightful.
I've seen reeking, racking & wrecking but that's a new one on me.
What was it Einstein said about the universe being infinite?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Clearly rubbish, or they'd never get started.
Read about Constantine I.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Whatever happens, we have got
The atom bomb, and they have not.
Well, not a lot...
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22212946
Not sure why slashdotters aren't talking about this?
The U.S.A. is two hundred years old. It has no culture.
Why all the hate on Muslims? I believe all religion is evil.
Slashdot has become a place where all the anti-American-freaks congregate
All messages warning against the dangerous Islamic religion were modded down, and on the other hand, all messages accusing America of aggression (and Pro-Islam) got modded up and up
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/19/17817173-one-boston-marathon-suspect-dead-another-still-on-run-officials-say?lite
Those of you hating the USA so much do not need to read the above link
Those of you still believing in the US of A, click on the above link and read it for yourself
The Boston bombers are foreign born, and they all had previous military training OUTSIDE OF AMERICA
The Boston Marathon Bombing and the subsequent shootout in MIT is yet another sign that America is under constant attack from the Muslims
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
That and the idea that terrorism is a prominently Islamic problem is stupid.
Over the last few decades far more people have been killed in my country (the UK) by Christian terrorists (the IRA etc.) than muslims.
It's interesting to see the difference in reactions to the primarily white Irish terrorists comprising the likes of the IRA and the primarily non-white African, Middle Eastern, and Pakistani terrorists - there's certainly more call for racial profiling which goes to show how much of the anti-Islamic rhetoric polluting the world today. It's like people forget that it wasn't even that long ago (when you consider that we've been in Afghanistan 11 years now) that a Japanese religious cult released sarin gas on the Tokyo subway.
I'm not one for religion full stop, and there's no doubt that Islam has been at the centre of current Western tensions, but globally in general, there's still hundreds of millions, likely over a billion who want nothing more than peace and who gladly keep to themselves. People in the West are often oblivious of the fact that muslims are sometimes even victims, even buddhists have killed far more muslims in places like Burma since the start of the year than muslims have killed people of other religions in religion/racial oriented attacks.
I never cease to be amazed how quick Americans are to call for action against muslims when they fail to carry out a terrorist attack, or carry out one that is relatively minor in impact but then are stuck with a complete stalemate over anything when a white caucasian American goes on a far more damaging and dangerous gun rampage. It's like the words islam or muslim cause a complete and utter loss of perspective in many Americans (and in fact a number of other Westerners).
Maybe I can also explain it in NRA terms for the dumb rednecks - Islam, Christianity, Atheism, Buddhism, doesn't kill people, terrorists do.
Muslim countries on the whole are black holes of civilization in every way, from human rights to education, not to mention science and technology. Nothing positive has come from Islam for many, many centuries.
I've read recently that around 1200 it were mostly the eastern countries who were more educated than the western world, or at least comparable. Around that time Genghis Khan came around and destroyed their entire civilisation, including their entire scientific community, libraries, and with that most of their knowledge.
If that hadn't been the case, perhaps it'd have been the middle east that was the more advanced region instead of the west as it is now. As for your other points about violence and others, I can only say that the western world has had similar developments in the past (e.g. The Crusades). How history could have developed differently with other courses of events are nothing more than speculations.
I would like to make a partial counter.
When christianity was around 1500 years old you had the spainish inquisition, Slavery was considered good, Witch trials that killed by with toture and the christians brought a whole continent into slavery (South America).
Guess How old Islam is right now?
It is only two data points, but religions that demand you must believe and all others are to be killed is the problem. All three religions based on the teachings of Moses have this problem.
i thought once I was found, but it was only a dream.
I know this comment is gonna be modded down to the basement, I do not care
Comments shouldn't be voted down because people disagree with them. This happens to be your opinion, misguided as it is. Islam happens to be a fairly LARGE religion. Most of problems you see come from a select few people.
Kind of like how the Westbro Baptists claim to be Christian. Should he ban ALL of Christianity because of a small group?
Not to mention a lot of violence happens for other reasons.
I think they will start controlling sells of crock pots.
Why should I help the feds form a fucking police state?
It's bad enough everything is on camera as it is, don't encourage this shit.
Being watched 24/7 is infinitely more 'evil' than a bomb going off once in a blue moon.
You all have your priorities mixed up if you are helping this bullshit.
And you have to restrain yourself to the United States to get that figure. While I certainly don't sympathize with neo-nazis or their ilk (and I doubt they'd approve of my non-white girlfriend), your cherry picking of facts is disingenuous. Worldwide the overwhelming majority of bombings are performed by Muslims and it's only by parsing the data in a certain way that you can make it look any other way.
just give everyone an IQ test upon entry. set the threshold so very few religious people get in.
Millions of Americans will be prevented from travelling abroad...
Singe capitulard mangeur de fromage
They didn't use crock pots but pressure cookers to build their bombs, but given the stupidity of our government they would probably ban crock pots as well.
Time to offend someone
"I work on a security commission and I’ve just received word to start on a campaign we’ve been working on for the last two months and now it all makes sense.
I’ll keep it as short can I can
They’re going to pin this event on a male late teens to early 20s and say he did it because he’s unstable.
They are going to find firearms and a NRA book in his home. They are going to to say he used reloading powder for the explosion and that reloading powder shouldn’t be for sale to the public. They are then going to say that because the powder in ammunition can be used for explosions that the number of rounds you can buy should be limited and taxed to help pay for these events.
I can’t do anything or I’ll lose my job and possibly face criminals charges. Please don’t let them get away with it. They won’t find the suspect till later this week and the raid is issued to occur on Friday. This was a staged event. The people hurt are real but the event was planned. Don’t let them hurt our rights."
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2206469/pg1
from
05/16/2013
I read this on the day. It's real, and it seems to be turning out as he said..
The word you want is "stoop" not "steep".
Furthermore when I look into the abyss the abyss blinks, tries to look away, and then wets its pants.
My point is that in the big scheme of things we have not injured the Muslim world at all, without us (the West) they would be far poorer, far more backwards and pretty much worse off in every single way.
Except for those that we killed. And except for those have been killed by the dictators we are financing. And except for those we kidnap and torture.
The main mistake you are making however is where you draw the line: it's not the "Muslims" on the one side and the "West" on the other side. Both groups contain a large group of psychopaths who really like to kill "other" people and do it on a regular basis. You should draw the line between the psychopaths and their victims. But instead you side with one group of psychopaths and rationalize that by claiming that "our" psychopaths are not as bad as "their" psychopaths. The relevant question here is: Who killed more people, Osama or Obama? Probably Obama. Bush or Hussein? Probably Hussein. And even if Obama were only 1 milliHitler and Osama were 2 milliHitler you still are morally bankrupt for siding with the "lesser evil" of both.
And this is why people are scared of Google Glass--it'll make an already existing problem worse; that is, the government will outsource its spying to the people.
If I see someone running away after mugging another person, am I acting as a "government spy" if I report it to the police and subsequently give evidence against them in court?
You paranoid rightwingers are so obsessed with the government being the fount of all evil that you lose touch with reality.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
Take a look at his nose and the black bushy hair. Light skinned, but definitely middle-eastern decent of some sort.
If he's a decent sort, he's unlikely to be a cold-blooded terrorist.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
Wrong. Roughly 50% of the populations likes a dick.
As a Christian, one who follows the life and teachings of Jesus Christ, I would not call the the actions of the KKK "Christian". Just because one claims to be something does make them that thing.
I can go around wearing an American flag, singing the American anthem and telling everyone I'm an American while punching people in the face. That does not mean I am an American nor does it mean that all Americans are face-punchers.
Bonus ;)
This is the sig that says NI (again)
But they did make the bombs out of recycled Nintendos :)
Build a Man a Fire, and He'll Be Warm for a Day. Set a Man on Fire, and He'll Be Warm for the Rest of His Life.
It was the people who practice Christianity who bombed a government building in Oslo (killing 8) and then went on a killing spree on a youth camp (killing 69).
See... I can do it too.
I see why you do it. It is fun to let the actions of a few wackos condemn a whole religion.
Also, if you hate freedom of religion so much, why don't you move to Saudi Arabia, Iran, or Egypt (or China)?
are famous for bombings.
Wrong.
"FBI Seeks Help In Finding Pair"
Talk amongst yourselves, you can make up your own jokes here.
... they would probably ban crock pots as well.
I'll give you my Crock*Pot (R) when you pry it from my cold, dead hands!
That is all.
Well, there is precedent for that sort of action. Bush let the bin Ladens leave the US after 9/11 while all of the other planes were grounded.
While this wouldn't do anything to stop the violence, it would certainly make my world a happier place!
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
To the GP...
Or the more recent movie-theatre shooting, or the various school shootings, etc.
I suppose it's "difference" because those evil [insert religion/race] use bombs instead of going on shooting rampages?
The only difference I see between a shooting spree and a bomb is that shooters seem to get ID'ed and caught/shot a bit sooner than bombers.
Indeed. While those little smartphone cameras still aren't a match for a real camera in many cases, in decent light they still beat the pants off CCTV cameras etc.
In the era when pretty much everyone has a 5+ megapixel camera or even 1080p video-camera in their pocket - with no worries about wasting film on random shots - on-site photography is going to be very valuable in situations like this.
What I feel people fail to see is that this is not about muslims or christians or whatever, it is about people who hate other people. Plain and simple.
You will find these kinds of people everywhere.
Though there is one difference between some of the groups.
Some hate you for who or what you are.
Some hate you for what 'you' did to 'them'.
Some might even be a mixture of both.
The only difference is that in some countries, the crazies don't have that much power. Sadly, we are far to often at fault that the crazies were able to come to power and/or hold that power.
But remember, there were times when that was different and we cannot, in all honesty, be 'confused' how 'people treat others over there'.
I mean does anyone think Afghanistan would look like it is today if the Taliban were not in charge (simplification, but go with it for now).
Does anyone think that after WW2, after the Nazis were 'removed' (you'd be surprised how few really were removed), the Germans were somehow magically cured?
The civil war in the US, while it 'freed' the slaves, did not make them equal, nor did it change the people.
If you live in a country were the crazies have the power, the entire country will be run that way. Not because everyone is crazy, but because if you do not play along, you will be next on the list.
Only the fewest of the few have the balls to stand up to them.
And no, you are not one of them!
We can find such hate in all countries, in all walks of life and in all people.
Finally, this is not only about hate, it is also about power. Regardless of most intentions, once power has been gained, all the best intentions fly out the window, because they stand in the way of keeping that power.
So if we think about what religions or social mindsets do, it is often the crazies that try to hide their hate and vileness by using their religion or their social mindsets as excuses. I mean right-wing dictatorships and left-wing dictatorship are both dictatorships, they just use a different carrot.
Please don't group Glenn Beck with the rest of us. There are plenty of Mormons who find him obnoxious and crazy.
"It's okay to slaughter muslim innocents because they stone and repress women and science. If we kill kill enough of them they might surrender in fear and stop doing those things. Also, they should die and suffer anyway for doing those things."
Quite a rational argument in it's own way, really. Shame about the fact that the ones he'd want to have six feet under or in a torture chamber are religious fanatics who martyr themselves at the drop of a hat, thus rendering the entire strategy invalid though.
Mind you the average person in the US is fat.
Clearly rubbish, or they'd never get started.
Why? Most early forms of government have clearly theocratic traits.
Contrary to the popular belief, there indeed is no God.
saudis never brought down The WTC towers ...they were brought down by Thermite explosives planted in the building ...the same as WTC building 7
The planes were remotely controlled by the USA military and guided to their target using laser-spotting-targeting devices
the real passengers of the plane were taken off the plane,..long time before
Aircraft plane spotter experts confirm no such filght number took off
The poor "victims" on board are now held prisoner somewhere in the USA...( a sort of rendition
for your own countrymen & women passengers) so to speak
Aircraft fuel that burns at about 1,000 degrees....cannot burn high-tensile structural steel beams that have a melting point of over 5,000 Degrees
Even adding the ignited paper,..computer equipment furniture...office furnishings etc..
still will not weaken the steal structure to cause collapse
Designers & architects can verify that the WTC were designed to with stand fire,..plane crashes...
Thermite was used to slice through the supporting pillars...like a hot knife through butter
That requires a degree of work lasting many months before of people to enter the building and set up the explosive devices
Thermite residue and its chemical finger-prints were found on girders. ...from the "crime-scene" that were hurriedly moved away to a scrapyard at break neck speed..
Girders
Anyone caught destroying evidence at a crime-scene such as a homicide,..sexual assault is subject to punishment by coourts and prison sentences..
GW Bush and his CIA cronies where never prosecuted
I agree with you. Those guys in Gitmo should either be released if innocent or shot if guilty. That bullshit has gone on way too long.
So what about the aurora shooter?? He KILLED 18 ppl!!! He was white!!!
A white terrorist!
the difference between "them" and you is that your a brainwashed product of the jews
Your well condition to spout your love for Israel and defend the jews tto the detriment of your own country and native american idian culture.
in other words yo are a traitor,..traitor to allow you country to be infested and over run by a foreign power...while denying rights to your own countrymen ..who have been here longer than you. ...as you claim to be
Us
what is "us" ? ......at meeting specifically designed t test his allegiance to a land ...10,000 miles away
why jew lover and jew cocksucker?.....drops you pants at the snap of a yids fingers...to take a long one up your anal passage as a short-cut to your empty brain.
Everythime a US president gets elected...he does not grovel and crawl to the people who elected him...nor to the native ethic indians of America...
NO,..with les tan a month the pitiful Rep. & Democrat president is sniveeling up the Jews arse
You should take yourself out the gene pool and crawl back under a rock somewhere in your fascist rabid Kosher boys desert
what kind of world is it when its run by fatso scumbag slobs of yankee scum,..to fat to role out of bed,..to fat to fit in a japanese car,..for-ever breeding like rabbits,...forever using foul gutter langauge.....for ever eating up all the worlds food & fuel resources,..
and then have the gall 7 temerity to blame Muslims for all your problems,..THAT YOU created the last 300 years of your sorry arse countrys existence
But Bin Laden strongly denied any role in the attacks and suggested that Zionists orchestrated the 9-11 attacks:
"I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks....The American system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States.