Let's face it. It's all just life. No one's getting out alive, and age has its own built-in liabilities, regardless of how hard you work (or avoid working) your body in your youth.
Similarly, we shouldn't bother about all that medicines and hospitals and nurses and doctors. 'Cus we're all going to die anyway. Anyone who gets ill, just let them die. It's probably God's will, or something anyway.
" folks love to romantize that period and many other shitty periods"
And to "romantize" that is bad because... what?
What period in human history wasn't shitty?
Would you really not prefer to be living in the US or EU now rather than in the time of the Great Plague in Europe or as a Jew in 1930s Germany?
Do you have any idea how horrible life was for the vast majority of ordinary people even somewhere supposedly rich and civilised like Britain in the middle of the Nineteenth Century?
I know it's currently fashionable to deny the concept of progress, but I can assure you I know when I'm better off, and it's not in some Fantasy period where a few aristocrats had all the fun and 90% of the population lived in squalor, on starvation wages, working most of their waking lives just to survive.
I already brew beer, I also cure meats, bake bread and create many other things.
I would never want to do any of those for a living in modern society. The hours are long and the pay is shit.
Agreed, I always want to ask all the back to basics fans why they don't just go and work as farm labourers for a couple of years and see how they feel about the fucking dignity of hard physical labour when they've been out shovelling shit for twelve hours and have to get up again in four hours time to milk the cows.
The way things are going, it might be nice to have skills that don't require electricity.
Once society loses the ability to create electricity, the only skills necessary will be the ability to wave a big fucking sword around in a vain attempt to stave off the zombie apocalypse.
In the same way that socialism is the theory, and communism is what happens when you implement it.
No, it's communism that is the theory and socialism that happens when you partly implement it under non-ideal circumstances.
Something like Chinese or Soviet "communism" are just poorly worked out socialist societies which never progressed due to the inherently totalitarian and conservative make up of the societies in which they were created.
In general, crony capitalism==bad. Capitalism==good. This is something agreed on by both parties
That is why non-Americans always smile at the pretend debates between Republicans and Democrats. They're both conservative, right wing, pro-business parties by world standards.
It's capitalism because some individuals end up rich out of it - the money went somewhere, after all. Oh, and if you think that "normal" capitalism has no cronyism in it, you're deluded.
If it was any form of socialism (using the word properly rather than just as a right wing meaningless insult) then the risks and rewards would be shared out equally.
These things involve using force to get an economic advantage, rather than producing a product that free people choose to buy, which is the glistening city on the hill everybody imagines.
You seem to have misspelled "imaginary" as "glistening".
When I still worked in IT for a small financial company, I had to make sure tens of thousands of sheets of paper were printed daily for just our little company (50 or so). (Much of it reports that would be stored for N years, never looked at and then shredded. Aren't hard copy retention policies wonderful?)
I bet you've never had to go into a small company and try and reconstruct its' last 2 or 3 years' accounts when the accounting software has been mysteriously "corrupted" by an accountant who has been sacked in interesting circumstances, have you?
Well, I have, and I think hard copies are wonderful things.
10,000 a year is an absolutely bogus exaggeration of a number for the average office worker; that's 30 pieces of paper per worker being used up every single day of the year
It's more like 40 for every working day, which doesn't seem particularly high to me.
I work in finance, and a lot of lazy bastards send us invoices, statements, quotes and so on by email. So we have to print the fuckers.
Plus, a lot of people like to see important numbers (like weekly production or sales figures) on signed and authorised pieces of papers rather than being waved around on someone's iPad and then later deleted when they update iTunes, or something.
I've not even had to print an invoice in over a year. They are all emailed to clients and the clients I have now I don't have problems getting paid from.
It might not have occurred to you, but the clients will most certainly have to print them out in order to provide proper accounting records which you need to keep for tax purposes for 6 years.
Trust me, if an HMRC inspector asks them in five years time to provide a proper VAT invoice and all they had is your now lost email, they're in trouble. Also, most non-trivial organisations like to see a piece of paper with an actual authorising signature on it before they pay it.
So you might be saving yourself the need to print out your invoices, but that doesn't mean they don't get printed anyway.
Try working in a real company where you need to keep hard copies of accounting documents for 6 years, legally, and see how far your paperless office will get you.
An accountant working at a non-profit organization have been using 3.5" floppy disks to transfer documents between the office and his home, as well as for archival purposes. He would refuse to use a USB drive that we give him, even after some training sessions. About a year ago, the supply of new floppies were gone and the administrative coordinator started asking for donations from our volunteers for any used ones. (Man, I wish I had saved up all those AOL mini-frisbees; I threw them all out about 5 years ago!) About 6 months ago, even the used floppies were gone (there wasn't much coming from the donations to begin with), so he relented and ended up using the USB drive.
So what? If the floppy disks worked for him, why was there any need for him to change to a USB drive?
Your "whoosh" indicates that I am missing vitally important information that every other person on this earth knows except for me.
Mind enlightening me?
It's because the assclown you were replying to with his ridiculous attempt at a "ha ha look how funny political correctness is" comment obviously wouldn't have any examples, because it's made up bullshit. No doubt there are some examples somewhere where people have made mistakes and called Africans "Afro-Americans" or something, but as a rule it just doesn't make sense.
Yeah, thats kind of the point. Been there seen this on dailyWTF or sociological images or whatever, clowns forcing black people living in europe/africa to identify themselves as "afro-americans" despite having nothing to do with the USA.
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Hard work is satisfying, but it has costs you don't always recognize until it's too late.
Soft jobs have their own costs.
Let's face it. It's all just life. No one's getting out alive, and age has its own built-in liabilities, regardless of how hard you work (or avoid working) your body in your youth.
Similarly, we shouldn't bother about all that medicines and hospitals and nurses and doctors. 'Cus we're all going to die anyway. Anyone who gets ill, just let them die. It's probably God's will, or something anyway.
But I fail to see the harm in romanticizing it.
Romanticizing is just a polite word for telling stories, or more bluntly lying.
We need stories, but we also need to be able to differentiate them from the actual truth.
" folks love to romantize that period and many other shitty periods"
And to "romantize" that is bad because ... what?
What period in human history wasn't shitty?
Would you really not prefer to be living in the US or EU now rather than in the time of the Great Plague in Europe or as a Jew in 1930s Germany?
Do you have any idea how horrible life was for the vast majority of ordinary people even somewhere supposedly rich and civilised like Britain in the middle of the Nineteenth Century?
I know it's currently fashionable to deny the concept of progress, but I can assure you I know when I'm better off, and it's not in some Fantasy period where a few aristocrats had all the fun and 90% of the population lived in squalor, on starvation wages, working most of their waking lives just to survive.
I already brew beer, I also cure meats, bake bread and create many other things.
I would never want to do any of those for a living in modern society. The hours are long and the pay is shit.
Agreed, I always want to ask all the back to basics fans why they don't just go and work as farm labourers for a couple of years and see how they feel about the fucking dignity of hard physical labour when they've been out shovelling shit for twelve hours and have to get up again in four hours time to milk the cows.
The way things are going, it might be nice to have skills that don't require electricity.
Once society loses the ability to create electricity, the only skills necessary will be the ability to wave a big fucking sword around in a vain attempt to stave off the zombie apocalypse.
when the apocalypse hits and civilization is reduced to rag-tag groups scraping out a meager living in a bartering economy
If, not when.
I believe that the physical labor is part of what drives the satisfaction that smiths find in their work.
Why not just drive to a gym, work out for a couple of hours, then buy your sword or knife in a shop on the way home? .
Hey now! I'm not retarded!
Me too!
In the same way that socialism is the theory, and communism is what happens when you implement it.
No, it's communism that is the theory and socialism that happens when you partly implement it under non-ideal circumstances.
Something like Chinese or Soviet "communism" are just poorly worked out socialist societies which never progressed due to the inherently totalitarian and conservative make up of the societies in which they were created.
In general, crony capitalism==bad. Capitalism==good. This is something agreed on by both parties
That is why non-Americans always smile at the pretend debates between Republicans and Democrats. They're both conservative, right wing, pro-business parties by world standards.
If it was any form of socialism (using the word properly rather than just as a right wing meaningless insult) then the risks and rewards would be shared out equally.
These things involve using force to get an economic advantage, rather than producing a product that free people choose to buy, which is the glistening city on the hill everybody imagines.
You seem to have misspelled "imaginary" as "glistening".
You can always tell you're on slashdot when misogynistic crap gets brought up as though it were a sensible debating point.
BAT (as in baseball) I'd have thought...
When I still worked in IT for a small financial company, I had to make sure tens of thousands of sheets of paper were printed daily for just our little company (50 or so). (Much of it reports that would be stored for N years, never looked at and then shredded. Aren't hard copy retention policies wonderful?)
I bet you've never had to go into a small company and try and reconstruct its' last 2 or 3 years' accounts when the accounting software has been mysteriously "corrupted" by an accountant who has been sacked in interesting circumstances, have you?
Well, I have, and I think hard copies are wonderful things.
10,000 a year is an absolutely bogus exaggeration of a number for the average office worker; that's 30 pieces of paper per worker being used up every single day of the year
It's more like 40 for every working day, which doesn't seem particularly high to me.
I work in finance, and a lot of lazy bastards send us invoices, statements, quotes and so on by email. So we have to print the fuckers.
Plus, a lot of people like to see important numbers (like weekly production or sales figures) on signed and authorised pieces of papers rather than being waved around on someone's iPad and then later deleted when they update iTunes, or something.
I've not even had to print an invoice in over a year. They are all emailed to clients and the clients I have now I don't have problems getting paid from.
It might not have occurred to you, but the clients will most certainly have to print them out in order to provide proper accounting records which you need to keep for tax purposes for 6 years.
Trust me, if an HMRC inspector asks them in five years time to provide a proper VAT invoice and all they had is your now lost email, they're in trouble. Also, most non-trivial organisations like to see a piece of paper with an actual authorising signature on it before they pay it.
So you might be saving yourself the need to print out your invoices, but that doesn't mean they don't get printed anyway.
Try working in a real company where you need to keep hard copies of accounting documents for 6 years, legally, and see how far your paperless office will get you.
An accountant working at a non-profit organization have been using 3.5" floppy disks to transfer documents between the office and his home, as well as for archival purposes. He would refuse to use a USB drive that we give him, even after some training sessions. About a year ago, the supply of new floppies were gone and the administrative coordinator started asking for donations from our volunteers for any used ones. (Man, I wish I had saved up all those AOL mini-frisbees; I threw them all out about 5 years ago!) About 6 months ago, even the used floppies were gone (there wasn't much coming from the donations to begin with), so he relented and ended up using the USB drive.
So what? If the floppy disks worked for him, why was there any need for him to change to a USB drive?
Oh Bullshit! Colonialism ended 60 years ago.
You've either never studied history, or are 13 or something.
60 years (in actual fact more like 50) is really not that long in the real world.
In fact, I believe there are more than eight people in the middle class in Nigeria alone.
Which brand of Christmas cracker did you pull that gem from? I'll make a note to boycott it.
Your "whoosh" indicates that I am missing vitally important information that every other person on this earth knows except for me.
Mind enlightening me?
It's because the assclown you were replying to with his ridiculous attempt at a "ha ha look how funny political correctness is" comment obviously wouldn't have any examples, because it's made up bullshit. No doubt there are some examples somewhere where people have made mistakes and called Africans "Afro-Americans" or something, but as a rule it just doesn't make sense.
Yeah, thats kind of the point. Been there seen this on dailyWTF or sociological images or whatever, clowns forcing black people living in europe/africa to identify themselves as "afro-americans" despite having nothing to do with the USA.
I. Don't. Believe. You.
Please offer a substitute for the prefix "cyber"
"facebook"
After all, that's the internet for most people nowadays.
Oooh, did the dig about "countries like Africa" upset you, poor wittle man?