The part of the blue state with the streak of red. Where the authoritarians live. Where teaching a lesson to your kid involves THROWING THEM IN JAIL. That'll be good for their relationship.
I know that was some fucked up shit, but that is COLD. I don't know if I could do that to my kids, even if they did something like this to me. It's called "unconditional love". Unless your parents are authoritarian fucks who want to hand you over to the state, I guess.
You clearly do not have any experience with seriously misbehaing kids. Sometimes you do need to call the cops. Kids don't grow up properly if you just let them do anything they want with no consequences ever.
It is not normal teenage behavior to drug your parents: this is an extreme action. You may choose to believe that she is extremely entitled and potentially psychopathic, but other extremes are also possible. As a general rule, it would be nice if people reserved their judgement until they had all the details.
You can only ever judge things on the details you have been given. Yes, it may turn out that she had been repeatedly raped and tortured in satanic abuse rituals and was desperate to drug her parents so she could escape from a living hell. But there's simply no evidence for that in TFA.
(I should point out that being a psychopath is not a crime)
Well, you may be a philosopher, but you're certainly not a fucking lawyer.
You punish people for their crimes, not their psychological state, unless the latter is so disturbed it amounts to a defence of criminal insanity or something.
Saying "I burned the house down, and hanged our pet dog but you can't convict me of any crime because I'm a psychopath" won't get you very far.
The whole seems to be cutting off you nose to spite your face, "The daughter and her friend, were arrested and booked". Who is going to pay for the fine, these a pretty serious charges and would normally result in a extended stay in a correctional facility. Often doing more harm than good for the child's future. Something does seem truly odd about the parents seeking prosecution of their own teenage child.
You are evidently not a parent who has had an out of control teenager. Sometimes, you have to call the cops for your own protection/sanity as well as to give the kid a wake up call.
Certain behaviour means that the child has crossed the line from "annoying spoilt teenager" to "dangerous psychopath". And I'd say that drugging your parents just to get round a curfew was one of them.
Home drug tests are MADE to test for things the average teen could get ahold of.
Since when sleeping pills are something that anyone takes for pleasure? Give me a break.
Treating benzodiazepines (most common sleeping pill ingredient IIRC) as "drugs" is plenty stupid
IMHO.
Yes, you're right there's absolutely no problem with people being addicted to sleeping pills, ever, so obviously they're not "drugs" at all.
Neat trick. I wouldn't call it THAT sophisticated, but definitely a neat trick. You know... the very fact that its so hard to stop actually gives me a little more hope for humanity. I know a prison gaurd who has said its amazing what you see people figure out how to do. Every time I hear that it makes me smile inside, just a little to know we are so adaptable.
I'm not sure your admiration for criminal ingenuity would be so great if you'd ever been the victim of a crime. Like being drugged by your own fucking kids.
They are behind bars as the result of an illegal drug search by civilians, followed by collusion with some cops. No doubt in the end justice will be served, and the family will move to Amish country and renounce most technology invented after 1850.
Cool, another teenager posting on slashdot. Why don't you fuck off to bed and stop whining about the nasty grown ups?
I hope you get a chance to meet the parents, and explain why it's their fault their kid won't remain within reasonable boundaries, and has resorted to criminal behaviour to get round them.
Then look forward to the kicking you get.
I assume you are another over-entitled teenager, if not you should just shut the fuck up.
Just get some random rocks from your garden, paint them black and call them meteorites. The sort of rich twats who collect things won't know the difference (and you're hardly going to make much money flogging them to museums).
There's a good recent book about the history of meteorite collecting (and dealing), if you're really interested.
The Fallen Sky by Christopher Cokinos. He chronicles the activities of a couple of very active meteorite dealers of the 20th century - they would mostly rush to the sites of recent falls and look around or buy pieces from local people who find them.
That sounds about as interesting as a history of the now legendary Keswick Pencil Museum.
Why not address the larger issue of why the government has to be everyone's mom? People will gamble. Some people enjoy it. Some people get hurt. The identical thing can be said for anything: mountain biking, ice cream, jogging, or french fries.
I've nothing against gambling or drug taking, but the argument is presumably that these can have negative effects on society as a whole, and that that overall negative effect trumps their individual right to do what they want.
The reductio ad absurdum would be that the government shouldn't make murder illegal, since some people enjoy it, which not even the most extreme libertarian would seriously suggest. So there clearly is a grey area in between.
If you injure yourself through mountain biking or jogging, that's broadly speaking your own problem and no one else's. I suppose with drug addiction or gambling, you could argue that it affects entire families.
About the only advantage I can see going to a larger school would be networking
*kerching*
got it in one.
It's the US equivalent of the Oxbridge set up here in the UK. I know you think you're classless and that you don't have the old boy/upper class twit nepotism we do. Well, you're wrong.
If you can't communicate in your native language, you shouldn't be allowed to build anything that involves other people, especially robots. Sloppy English means you're a sloppy "engineer".
Oh noes, in a minute? That totally makes an objective difference!
I'm kidding. It makes no difference. Rifles kill well under 400 people a year in the US, and assault rifles way under that. It's noise.
But carry on with your emotional arguments at will...
Assault rifles have one purpose, which is to kill as many people as quickly and effectively as possible in a military confrontation.
There is simply no excuse for them to be in the hands of civilians.
And it does make a difference if you can kill 20 people quickly and easily rather than slowly and with difficulty. Assault rifles give weaklings the chance to cheat nature and act like mini-gods for a few minutes, until they take their own pathetic lives.
I love how anyone with an interest in, or an enthusiasm for firearms is a "gun nut". To me, people like you are fucking pussy bitches. Grow some fucking balls and stop blaming average people for the acts of fucking lunatics. Fuck man.
People who can only settle arguments with guns are the fucking pussy bitches.
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Chewing gum may not be illegal in Singapore, but you can still find yourself in serious trouble (flogging) for trivial anti-social behaviour.
I moved out of the US 4 years ago because I can see where it's going.
I'm afraid this time it will be a worldwide co-ordinated fascist attack on all our freedoms.
Well done for not using the phrase "ZOG", it must have taken a lot of self restraint.
Why not just get it over with and change your flag to the swastika, we all know that's where this is heading.
Says someone who has never lived in a totalitarian police state or anything close to it.
The part of the blue state with the streak of red. Where the authoritarians live. Where teaching a lesson to your kid involves THROWING THEM IN JAIL. That'll be good for their relationship. I know that was some fucked up shit, but that is COLD. I don't know if I could do that to my kids, even if they did something like this to me. It's called "unconditional love". Unless your parents are authoritarian fucks who want to hand you over to the state, I guess.
You clearly do not have any experience with seriously misbehaing kids. Sometimes you do need to call the cops. Kids don't grow up properly if you just let them do anything they want with no consequences ever.
If my daughter offered me a drink in the evening I would be immediately suspicious. It's my job.
I'd make them taste it first. It's what I always do with my whisky and soda.
Joke.
It is not normal teenage behavior to drug your parents: this is an extreme action. You may choose to believe that she is extremely entitled and potentially psychopathic, but other extremes are also possible. As a general rule, it would be nice if people reserved their judgement until they had all the details.
You can only ever judge things on the details you have been given. Yes, it may turn out that she had been repeatedly raped and tortured in satanic abuse rituals and was desperate to drug her parents so she could escape from a living hell. But there's simply no evidence for that in TFA.
Heinlein would probably agree with you..
And he was a fucking fascist, so that's not much of a recommendation.
(I should point out that being a psychopath is not a crime)
Well, you may be a philosopher, but you're certainly not a fucking lawyer.
You punish people for their crimes, not their psychological state, unless the latter is so disturbed it amounts to a defence of criminal insanity or something.
Saying "I burned the house down, and hanged our pet dog but you can't convict me of any crime because I'm a psychopath" won't get you very far.
Yeah - I think you just described nearly every teenaged son alive.
I don't know any teenagers who could wake up as early as 2am. 8's a struggle for most of them.
The whole seems to be cutting off you nose to spite your face, "The daughter and her friend, were arrested and booked". Who is going to pay for the fine, these a pretty serious charges and would normally result in a extended stay in a correctional facility. Often doing more harm than good for the child's future. Something does seem truly odd about the parents seeking prosecution of their own teenage child.
You are evidently not a parent who has had an out of control teenager. Sometimes, you have to call the cops for your own protection/sanity as well as to give the kid a wake up call.
Certain behaviour means that the child has crossed the line from "annoying spoilt teenager" to "dangerous psychopath". And I'd say that drugging your parents just to get round a curfew was one of them.
Home drug tests are MADE to test for things the average teen could get ahold of.
Since when sleeping pills are something that anyone takes for pleasure? Give me a break. Treating benzodiazepines (most common sleeping pill ingredient IIRC) as "drugs" is plenty stupid IMHO.
Yes, you're right there's absolutely no problem with people being addicted to sleeping pills, ever, so obviously they're not "drugs" at all.
Are you really that fucking stupid?
Stupid kids. If your going to go to such trouble you should have called child services when confronted. No more parents to deal with.
If I were one of the parents, I would be pleading with child services to take the little fuck away, permanently.
Neat trick. I wouldn't call it THAT sophisticated, but definitely a neat trick. You know... the very fact that its so hard to stop actually gives me a little more hope for humanity. I know a prison gaurd who has said its amazing what you see people figure out how to do. Every time I hear that it makes me smile inside, just a little to know we are so adaptable.
I'm not sure your admiration for criminal ingenuity would be so great if you'd ever been the victim of a crime. Like being drugged by your own fucking kids.
They are behind bars as the result of an illegal drug search by civilians, followed by collusion with some cops. No doubt in the end justice will be served, and the family will move to Amish country and renounce most technology invented after 1850.
Cool, another teenager posting on slashdot. Why don't you fuck off to bed and stop whining about the nasty grown ups?
I blame the parents.
I hope you get a chance to meet the parents, and explain why it's their fault their kid won't remain within reasonable boundaries, and has resorted to criminal behaviour to get round them.
Then look forward to the kicking you get.
I assume you are another over-entitled teenager, if not you should just shut the fuck up.
Haven't RTFA, can someone explain to me why these kids are behind bars, who do I blame for that?
Why the shouldn't they be behind bars? I'd try them for attempted murder and sentence them to twenty years in jail with no internet access.
"LOL".
Just get some random rocks from your garden, paint them black and call them meteorites. The sort of rich twats who collect things won't know the difference (and you're hardly going to make much money flogging them to museums).
There's a good recent book about the history of meteorite collecting (and dealing), if you're really interested. The Fallen Sky by Christopher Cokinos. He chronicles the activities of a couple of very active meteorite dealers of the 20th century - they would mostly rush to the sites of recent falls and look around or buy pieces from local people who find them.
That sounds about as interesting as a history of the now legendary Keswick Pencil Museum.
Why not address the larger issue of why the government has to be everyone's mom? People will gamble. Some people enjoy it. Some people get hurt. The identical thing can be said for anything: mountain biking, ice cream, jogging, or french fries.
I've nothing against gambling or drug taking, but the argument is presumably that these can have negative effects on society as a whole, and that that overall negative effect trumps their individual right to do what they want.
The reductio ad absurdum would be that the government shouldn't make murder illegal, since some people enjoy it, which not even the most extreme libertarian would seriously suggest. So there clearly is a grey area in between.
If you injure yourself through mountain biking or jogging, that's broadly speaking your own problem and no one else's. I suppose with drug addiction or gambling, you could argue that it affects entire families.
About the only advantage I can see going to a larger school would be networking
*kerching*
got it in one.
It's the US equivalent of the Oxbridge set up here in the UK. I know you think you're classless and that you don't have the old boy/upper class twit nepotism we do. Well, you're wrong.
How many of the world's billionaires graduated from one of the aforementioned universities?
How many of the world's billionaires have actually contributed anything useful to society?
They taught me how to build robots, not grammar.
If you can't communicate in your native language, you shouldn't be allowed to build anything that involves other people, especially robots. Sloppy English means you're a sloppy "engineer".
Oh for a "-1 smug cunt" moderation option.
Oh noes, in a minute? That totally makes an objective difference!
I'm kidding. It makes no difference. Rifles kill well under 400 people a year in the US, and assault rifles way under that. It's noise.
But carry on with your emotional arguments at will...
Assault rifles have one purpose, which is to kill as many people as quickly and effectively as possible in a military confrontation.
There is simply no excuse for them to be in the hands of civilians.
And it does make a difference if you can kill 20 people quickly and easily rather than slowly and with difficulty. Assault rifles give weaklings the chance to cheat nature and act like mini-gods for a few minutes, until they take their own pathetic lives.
I love how anyone with an interest in, or an enthusiasm for firearms is a "gun nut". To me, people like you are fucking pussy bitches. Grow some fucking balls and stop blaming average people for the acts of fucking lunatics. Fuck man.
People who can only settle arguments with guns are the fucking pussy bitches.