On a side not, this company started in 2001 - took 4 years for the FBI to notice & catch him. Kind of funny.
That's because that's how long it takes for the piggies to nervously stuff do-nuts into their fat lying gullets, while deciding on whether this guy was going to give them a 'real fight', or was going to 'go quietly' when they kidnapped him off to jail.
First off the guy advertised the program solely as a product to spy on your lover or other people
There is nothing wrong with this, most people do it, want to do it, or would do it if they weren't so lazy.
The pigs do it all the time.
People 'like you' are not only grossly out numbered...
But when 'it-all-comes-down', the pigs will hunt down, arrest and kill people like you first, for being so lame and yellow-bellied in your support for them.
I find that when I 'slow down' and try to look over a situation like this, and try and 'walk in the other guys shoes', that I come up with good ideas-- like you stated here (seeking out other mentors).:)
The only thing I'd add is that if I was so sure and confident about my abilities, then someday the person above me, if he was truly a 'good' boss, would recognize this, and promote me (even if it meant being his boss eventually!).
The guy in this story doesn't know if his boss is playing dumb, or what cards he may be holding.
But I'm sure no matter how dumb he (the boss) may be, he 'senses' the feelings that the guys under him are projecting... which may be to their detriment eventually.:)
Yea maybe before they became googlairs they were 'ok'... but only because they SEEMED to try harder.
Now they are just-like-Ms.-- in that, they are the only game in town, and they are overly-constantly-hyped.
Sorry yahooo, I don't consider a company that requests payment to be listed-- a search engine.
When you type something in quotes, it almost always says: "remove the quotes.. Google cannot find your request".
So you take off the quotes, and you get millions of pages, with the first several finds that have NOTHING to do with your request, but EVERYTHING to do with somebody trying to sell you something!
I'm sorry, a product such as google is NOT free, when you have to spend countless hours/days in frustration, and then not find things that you know are there!
One good thing about google and all it's ms-like-billions.. and that is, when people start to sue them for their fraud (in advertisement and in what they claim to provide), there will plenty of $ there for individuals.
THEN we can all REALLY be excited about how RICH Google is!!
Do you not have any feelings, for those poor-rich-bastards, and how they'll spend sleepless nights wat-ching their 'pennies' disapear.. because of this diabolical hack that you've exposed!!;)
The worm only spreads to systems running on Windows 2000, XP and Server 2003, and even then, the possibility of the worm affecting Windows XP and Server 2003 are minimal. Nevertheless, despite the relatively low worldwide infection rate, this worm can, in theory, spread and infect computers extremely fast. Computer users need to remain vigilant and take immediate measures to protect against this and other attacks,' warned Kirouani
Talk about contridictions.
And whats with this thing where Ms. is 'warning' us several days in advance?
If I was to 'warn' someone that something bad was to happen to them, I'd be arrested for 'threatening' them.
I wish Eliot Spitzer (that lone prosecutor from the State of New York who defends 'Individual's' rights) would look into the how-why-where-when of Ms. being able to call catastrophese like these.
And while he's at it, find out if Ms. computers were affected by this worm, and if not, WHY NOT!!
As far as this virus not being a big deal, well even Comcast who rarely has down times or problems was off line quite a bit the following morning here in the West. Even if they weren't directly affected by it, it is possible they were 'making' sure that their systems were ok for the day ahead.
They seemed to be having problems down stream (from me, because I was online and linking, but was not able to get to ANY websites).
Of course I couldn't get any info outa comcast (your never can, they always claim you have the problem only).
I know its unlikely, but what if MS is the author of the worm? They have the source so they know how to infect things quickly. Kind of makes me wonder... Is MS preparing for a world takeover?
No, but they may be preparing to goto jail.
Remember they are still probably preddy big hedded about pulling the wool over the Doj's recently.
And this worm (if reports are true) has hit the Capitol Building in Washington, DC.
That is considered terrorism.
And there is MORE than enuff proof from the past-- to see that Bill Gaffs is demented enuff to try this to the extreme extent-- that this worm seems to be damaging things.
Is this even worth arguing with you? Linux hasn't been around long enough to build the roots of the internet.
Here's the history (for everyone else to read) and the relationship of Linux to Unix, Unix to Univac (first business computer system from the 1940's, when the phone network was being built on a large scale), and finally The TeleGraph (via American Telephone & Telegraph (aka AT&T).
Notice that Ms. was not a mountain of problems back then, it wasn't even a mole hill yet.
And the telephone system? My gosh that's a pathetic statement if i ever saw one. The telephone system has been around almost a century
My last post referred to 'world' phone system-- past AND current,(maybe you should stop worrying about my netiquette and learn how to read/comprehend).
Note that the first intercontinental links were not made until 1956.
The DOJ hasn't taken action against MS in ages and the only reason it did is because some loudmouthed guy wouldnt shut up about how vile MS was and eventually someone fell for his pathetic act...
The Evil Dragooon is still under the watchful eyez of the Doj..
And yes, isn't it a WONDERFUL thing that ONE big mouth can cause soooo much trouble for such a vicious criminal as Bill Gaffs!!
Well, now you're supposed to tell the government whenever you notice it.
Even though people will tell you (and me) that 'we-are-the-government', you & I know that this is simple NOT true.
The government (except the armies) are civilians, but not all civilians are 'IN' the government.
The government looks at us (in the usa anyway) as an 'us & them' situation.
Unless there is widespread defection, malcontent and out right opposition from within the ranks of our government, it will be *EXTREMEly* hard for the masses to 'join in' on the fray, when it all-comes-down someday.:(
Here's the lovely Catch-22 that's been set up for this librarian:
Librarians are not allowed by federal law to restrict what people view on the Internet.
Now, the librarians can be suspended/fired for NOT restricting what people view on the Internet.
What the hell is she supposed to do?
She supposed to do what every other good fanatical amerikan is supposed to do, and just 'shut-up' and make believe that she is guilty-- on BOTH aspects of 'The Law'.
This 'catch 22' is now the norm, with 'the governement' attempting to convince us all how 'bad we are' and how we 'need-them-so-much' to keep us safe from 'ourselves'.
The governments philosophy is clear; make us 'feel' so confused and guilty-- in EVERYTHING that we do (and don't do), that we all feel constantly confused and unsure about what 'the-right-thing-IS-to-do'.
why should i prove the non existence of something to you? I think you need to proce the existence of it to me....
Because everyone would like to see proof of YOUR claims. I CANNOT (and would not) help prove your case because of your stance... that would be RIDICULOUSE on my part.
set a band of hackers, the size of the ones going after windows, after linux instead.
Why would ANYONE (other than Bill Gaffs & co) want to help bring down (attack) Linux, whos roots built the worlds telephon sys and InterNet!
i'm just sick of the brainless MS bashing by people who couldn't care less about facts vs blathering opinion
Most people, many MANY companies and the Doj will STRONGLY disagree with you.
Someone(s) need to stop this madness by a 'few' in order to save the Masses.
You 'say' you do not love Ms. (pronouced Mizz) but if your NOT with us.. then you are against us! (quoted fr: Gorge Bush).:[
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Whenever I download the newest movies & songs-- before they hit the stores, it already comes with a nice little license..
So at least I know that I'm all 'legal' and everythin..
I just can't understand why everyone else doesn't see this =:/
Does anyone really still think, "OOH! look at me, I'm a PIRATE!"??
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGG!! =:]
On a side not, this company started in 2001 - took 4 years for the FBI to notice & catch him. Kind of funny.
That's because that's how long it takes for the piggies to nervously stuff do-nuts into their fat lying gullets, while deciding on whether this guy was going to give them a 'real fight', or was going to 'go quietly' when they kidnapped him off to jail.
First off the guy advertised the program solely as a product to spy on your lover or other people
There is nothing wrong with this, most people do it, want to do it, or would do it if they weren't so lazy.
The pigs do it all the time.
People 'like you' are not only grossly out numbered...
But when 'it-all-comes-down', the pigs will hunt down, arrest and kill people like you first, for being so lame and yellow-bellied in your support for them.
Dumb ass. You can also get executed for killing a man. And you can get probation for writing a program. Why don't you use your brain once in a while.
And YOU can have a man kill you for having an attitude 'like yours' and get off completely.
Where is said or proven that the makers of this program made it with the bad intentions that you claim?
Programs like this are necessary to capture Federal Prosecturs, Judges, lieing wifes and yes, people LIKE YOU and bring them to justice.
Thats a GREAT idea!!
I find that when I 'slow down' and try to look over a situation like this, and try and 'walk in the other guys shoes', that I come up with good ideas-- like you stated here (seeking out other mentors). :)
Yea, and tell us where you work(ed).
Your boss sounds preddy qool :)
You hit the nail preddy much on the hed!
The only thing I'd add is that if I was so sure and confident about my abilities, then someday the person above me, if he was truly a 'good' boss, would recognize this, and promote me (even if it meant being his boss eventually!).
The guy in this story doesn't know if his boss is playing dumb, or what cards he may be holding.
But I'm sure no matter how dumb he (the boss) may be, he 'senses' the feelings that the guys under him are projecting... which may be to their detriment eventually. :)
And I doubt with that attitude that any one actually does.
When it is obvious that it is NOT.
Yea maybe before they became googlairs they were 'ok'... but only because they SEEMED to try harder.
Now they are just-like-Ms.-- in that, they are the only game in town, and they are overly-constantly-hyped.
Sorry yahooo, I don't consider a company that requests payment to be listed-- a search engine.
When you type something in quotes, it almost always says: "remove the quotes.. Google cannot find your request".
So you take off the quotes, and you get millions of pages, with the first several finds that have NOTHING to do with your request, but EVERYTHING to do with somebody trying to sell you something!
I'm sorry, a product such as google is NOT free, when you have to spend countless hours/days in frustration, and then not find things that you know are there!
One good thing about google and all it's ms-like-billions.. and that is, when people start to sue them for their fraud (in advertisement and in what they claim to provide), there will plenty of $ there for individuals.
THEN we can all REALLY be excited about how RICH Google is!!
SHAMEFULL!!
Do you not have any feelings, for those poor-rich-bastards, and how they'll spend sleepless nights wat-ching their 'pennies' disapear.. because of this diabolical hack that you've exposed!! ;)
Because I'v seen every project that I'v continued on in, to be a success-- at least to some degree, in spite of people telling me I should 'give up'.
And be sure to garner at least some of the other wonderful advice that you will get here at /. :)
The worm only spreads to systems running on Windows 2000, XP and Server 2003, and even then, the possibility of the worm affecting Windows XP and Server 2003 are minimal. Nevertheless, despite the relatively low worldwide infection rate, this worm can, in theory, spread and infect computers extremely fast. Computer users need to remain vigilant and take immediate measures to protect against this and other attacks,' warned Kirouani
Talk about contridictions.
And whats with this thing where Ms. is 'warning' us several days in advance?
If I was to 'warn' someone that something bad was to happen to them, I'd be arrested for 'threatening' them.
I wish Eliot Spitzer (that lone prosecutor from the State of New York who defends 'Individual's' rights) would look into the how-why-where-when of Ms. being able to call catastrophese like these.
And while he's at it, find out if Ms. computers were affected by this worm, and if not, WHY NOT!!
As far as this virus not being a big deal, well even Comcast who rarely has down times or problems was off line quite a bit the following morning here in the West. Even if they weren't directly affected by it, it is possible they were 'making' sure that their systems were ok for the day ahead.
They seemed to be having problems down stream (from me, because I was online and linking, but was not able to get to ANY websites).
Of course I couldn't get any info outa comcast (your never can, they always claim you have the problem only).
As if we don't know that answer.
There is no
Or do you want to be the one to tell ALL THOSE PARENTS that there isn't one?! ;)
need to 'deal with it'.
I think he runs Linux :)
sooooo, i guess you 'need to deal with it'.. too.
I mean, if what your saying is true, it does not make ANY sense that the coroporation behind this would do it to the extent that it is.
People from fortune 500 companies, major media outlets and the capitol were hit hard today.. and it's spreading.
There is NO benefit to the attackers (if they are coroparate related).
They (when/if found) will have a black mark on nearly everyones mind, because the attack goes BEYOND removing silly spyware.
Machines are being brought down en-mass and the publicity is NOT good.
Maybe your still right though, after all, marketing companies have not always been known to be the brightest chocolates in the boxen ;)
I usually don't support corporations..
But i am truly sorry to hear your concern about the seriousness of this at your company.
NO BILL!
This new ZoTob enhancement only 'works' on your WinDoze (remember?)
You have DEBIAN!!
So your okies mahhhhn. :)
I know its unlikely, but what if MS is the author of the worm? They have the source so they know how to infect things quickly. Kind of makes me wonder... Is MS preparing for a world takeover?
No, but they may be preparing to goto jail.
Remember they are still probably preddy big hedded about pulling the wool over the Doj's recently.
And this worm (if reports are true) has hit the Capitol Building in Washington, DC.
That is considered terrorism.
And there is MORE than enuff proof from the past-- to see that Bill Gaffs is demented enuff to try this to the extreme extent-- that this worm seems to be damaging things.
ABOUT NOTHING!!
Is this even worth arguing with you? Linux hasn't been around long enough to build the roots of the internet.
Here's the history (for everyone else to read) and the relationship of Linux to Unix, Unix to Univac (first business computer system from the 1940's, when the phone network was being built on a large scale), and finally The TeleGraph (via American Telephone & Telegraph (aka AT&T).
Notice that Ms. was not a mountain of problems back then, it wasn't even a mole hill yet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
And the telephone system? My gosh that's a pathetic statement if i ever saw one. The telephone system has been around almost a century
My last post referred to 'world' phone system-- past AND current,(maybe you should stop worrying about my netiquette and learn how to read/comprehend).
Note that the first intercontinental links were not made until 1956.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATT
and
http://internet-pioneers.org/archives/early.histor y.of.unix.html
The DOJ hasn't taken action against MS in ages and the only reason it did is because some loudmouthed guy wouldnt shut up about how vile MS was and eventually someone fell for his pathetic act...
The Evil Dragooon is still under the watchful eyez of the Doj..
And yes, isn't it a WONDERFUL thing that ONE big mouth can cause soooo much trouble for such a vicious criminal as Bill Gaffs!!
Well, now you're supposed to tell the government whenever you notice it.
Even though people will tell you (and me) that 'we-are-the-government', you & I know that this is simple NOT true.
The government (except the armies) are civilians, but not all civilians are 'IN' the government.
The government looks at us (in the usa anyway) as an 'us & them' situation.
Unless there is widespread defection, malcontent and out right opposition from within the ranks of our government, it will be *EXTREMEly* hard for the masses to 'join in' on the fray, when it all-comes-down someday. :(
Here's the lovely Catch-22 that's been set up for this librarian: Librarians are not allowed by federal law to restrict what people view on the Internet. Now, the librarians can be suspended/fired for NOT restricting what people view on the Internet. What the hell is she supposed to do?
She supposed to do what every other good fanatical amerikan is supposed to do, and just 'shut-up' and make believe that she is guilty-- on BOTH aspects of 'The Law'.
This 'catch 22' is now the norm, with 'the governement' attempting to convince us all how 'bad we are' and how we 'need-them-so-much' to keep us safe from 'ourselves'.
The governments philosophy is clear; make us 'feel' so confused and guilty-- in EVERYTHING that we do (and don't do), that we all feel constantly confused and unsure about what 'the-right-thing-IS-to-do'.
why should i prove the non existence of something to you? I think you need to proce the existence of it to me....
Because everyone would like to see proof of YOUR claims. I CANNOT (and would not) help prove your case because of your stance... that would be RIDICULOUSE on my part.
set a band of hackers, the size of the ones going after windows, after linux instead.
Why would ANYONE (other than Bill Gaffs & co) want to help bring down (attack) Linux, whos roots built the worlds telephon sys and InterNet!
i'm just sick of the brainless MS bashing by people who couldn't care less about facts vs blathering opinion
Most people, many MANY companies and the Doj will STRONGLY disagree with you.
Someone(s) need to stop this madness by a 'few' in order to save the Masses.
You 'say' you do not love Ms. (pronouced Mizz) but if your NOT with us.. then you are against us! (quoted fr: Gorge Bush). :[