Ok, this takes the cake... someone who was/is in 'Psychology' & Criminal Justice, telling a new programmer how to go about it!!
I tried to find some good/correct/possitive things in this: 'Interesting' +3 modded post.. reallly, I did!!
lol.. but telling someone to 'work closely' with someone who already knows the 'stuff'??
Ahhhnd, goto your local library, for 'NEW' books!!
That part is not even vaguely amusing, let alone correct.
You will NOT find any newer books than at your local book store or online-- NOT in the library; they are rarely up2date, especially with the RepublicanTs in power.
-- Shheeeesh.. I beginning to feel like an old 'wash-woman', who should be paid by/. management for cleaning up their crap!!:)
assembler? why not start out with maths and physics first? them move up to electronics and the such. and dont't forget the holy scriptures and valium in between for soul nourishment.
Lol, I thought the same thing. Assembler to 'start out with'.. so you'll 'learn'??
Assembler at college level is considered one of thee HARDEST courses!!
WHHHY would anyone want to be soo discouraged right off the bat!
The bottom line, and the FACT is, programming in general, is like math..
If you were born with a 'nack' for it, fine.. but if not.. well, you will be VERY miserable in it-- the rest of your life.
Again, I'm amazed at the posts that are getting recognized by/. management recently, as; 'Insightful'... when the poster was clearly trolling by acting like noone else has posted anything worth while today in this thread.
Then again, maybe/. is using the 'other' meaning for the other word: INCITEFUL.
I can't believe all the great posts that some folks put sooo much effort into here are not even getting modded, but the/. management has time to deal with trivial stuff like this!!
I'v coded for years with little need for extensive math or it's knowledge.
When the time did come, I would learn what I needed for that project, and that project only, therebye saving me time, agravation and sanity.
Why do soo many people act like you need to be Einstein to program?
NOTHING can be farther from the truth, unless you are going to create unusually extravagant projects like OS's, and full blown major apps like Word Processors, etc.
PLEASE stop scarring off potential great candidates with old-wives-tales.. PLEASE STOP IT!!
-- The InterNet is a terrible thing to waste, lets arrest Bill Gates and shut down Microsoft immediately.
He should 'bother' because the fact that there is soo much bad software, is exactly the reason we need someone like him who is concerned about doing it right.
As far as needing Uni, that is true only under certain circumstances like specialty jobs which entail more than just IT knowledge.
Generaly speaking I would not want to work permanently for a company who just looked at my formal education, but couldn't care less about what I'v done in the past, and my current ambition & Visa-Versa usually.
-- SORRRY!! But I am still a proud member of SlashDot:)
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Google, Micro$oft & Intel!!
And our beloved government, is going to 'sell' our spectrum..
Hmmm, wonder if I'll see any of the money..
Oh yea, I'll see it in action when they finally catch & prosecute me for being a pirate to help bring down the scum Ceo's at the Clear Channel and AT&T types.
-- My favorite thing about OSS, is its Militancy!!
Here is a good summary of how using existing power lines in your home, and from the power companies, to access network services such as the InterNet, is/may affect such groups as Amateur Radio Operators, EMS and Shotrwave listeners.
My question has always been why don't they use the actual AC current that is being transmitted at 60htz INSIDE the wire instead of over the magnetic fields around the wires?
In other words, JUST like the Cable Companies do??
I guess there is a simple reason for this, but from reading these articles, that as usual, this (BPL implementation) is being done ram-rod style by the powers-that-be, with little to no concern about what we think.
The term: 'over the lines', is usually meant, that the data, or power, is actually being carried IN the wire, not OVER, as in the magnetic field.
And yet this term has somehow been convoluted into meaning something different, at least in this extensive subject on BPL.
Why?
I am sure there are other 'better' ways to accomplish this idea.
Their (Powers-that-be) whole 'talk' on this is that we need them to build a whole new infrastructure to become a backbone (carrier) of the InterNet, in order to have BPL fullscale.
My first thought was, well why can't we have individuals have the 'routers' etc. necessary to pull this off in our neighborhoods?
Many have posted here in this thread, mentioning how the power lines act as an antenna...well, why isn't the idea of using this antenna, for what it is, being discussed?
For example, as someone joking mentioned here earlier about a ham operator firing up his transmitter, and it made a modem recycle in a coffee shop that was hooked up to bpl!! lol.
Sooo what about us 'directly' accessing this great-antenna-the-sky?
These ideas are not even brought up, let alone considered as a theory in ANYTHING I have read about this for the last several years-- when it first arose as a controversial issue.
It seems an aweful lot of 'data' can be sent down those thick wires hanging over our heads.
The bandwidth may not be what they are saying is going to be availible using 3mhz - 60mhz, but it seems that it would be at least be as much as what the cable cos are doing with their little coax!! (again, I'm asumming this is being done NON-INTRUSIVLY, as the Cable companies do, by using the actually AC current in the wire, instead of on the 'magnetic' fields outside of the wires.)
Cable companies send our tv, InterNet, and now fon service, over that little wire.
It is 'stepped up' and 'stepped down', several times during its journey..so there is no reason that the power companies cannot do this also.
Unless of course they just want to do this the cheapest and crapiest way possible, so it can be a falliure, other than the billions racked in by the Ceos and their buds.
Some of those high-tension Power wires are at least several notches thicker, and therefore can and do carrry a LOT more amps, than coax cables.
These specfic issue are either not mentioned, or glanced over at every opportunity.
I have a sneaky feeling, that something on the magnitude of p2p or free as in air, is looming on the horizon for us, concerning InterNet service, and the Ceo's are frantic to let us believe other wise.
-- My favorite thing about OSS-- IS its Militancy!!
You don't have to be an EE to understand at a most fundamental level that you can't send a complex modulated signal over unshielded wires without radiating it.
You don't?? Hrmmmm..
-- My favorite thing about OSS-- IS its Militancy!!
I actually agree with you on everything else.. buhht, if I'm not mistaken, there are actually MORE people on the earth who use older M$ products (ie pre xp) than not..soooo.. bsod still is 'prevalent', lol;)
-- My favorite thing about OSS-- IS its Militancy!!
Why don't you put your efforts into helping Gnome/Nautilus instead of reinventing the wheel?
As far as the issues you mentioned:
#1 is not, because you admit it can be fixed once and for all by setting a switch.
#2 Apparently another poster just mentioned that 2.14 has finally fixed this issue.
However it is funny that you want something that helps reduce Gnome to 'One Button', when you imply this is what is making Gnome a useless manager!
Remember Gnome is older, more stable and STILL more Mac like (consider it's roots), and also more apt for the developers/hackers world... soooo hence the developers are not as quick to add features like this, when they use the shell which is usually infinitely 'faster' for their work/needs.
#3 & #4 Seem to be the same issue, which I don't have a problem doing this.. it may have been an isolated incident that you have run into. Try it again, I bet it works for you actually.
There is a reason Gnome is still going strong, and big time distros like Ubuntu are taking it under its wings.
It is because it is more secure and configurable, with more seasoned users and developers than any other manager, including Doze.
Just remember that Linux (Unix) is still considered quite new on the desktop, but it is quickly 'catching up', and we will soon have the best of all worlds.:)
-- My favorite thing about OSS-- is its Militancy!!
Because if you are constantly 'thrown' off the net, then you cannot get your word out.
In essence the 'public' companies (ie. isps,/.'s etc) are in effect doing the Government censoreship for them.
Same thing in 'real life'...only more live threatening.
If you are a male who continuely goes into supermarkets and 'flirts' with females.. and get 'tresspassed' to never go on their property, then the saying; 'just go somewhere else' will eventually not hold up, and you will literally get sick or die from not being able to go anywhere to buy food-- should you decide to 'excersise your right' to freedom of speech.
In both of these very real examples, the government was nowhere to be found, or had nothing to do with initiating any 'censorship'.
However they may have a hand in enforcing, what regular 'public', 'citizens', or businesses, have initiated as an attack on your personal/individual freedoms.
-- My favorite thing about OSS, is its MILITANCY!!
Even if Digg is held on a short leash, so what, they DO have MANY more articles, and there are more INTERESTING articles.
/. has been reduced to a babies games of the powers that be, who are running off the only thing/. ever had going for it, which is good posters.
Good Digg posters are harder to find, but they are catching up in that area too.
I would think anyone who's been around here long enuff knows that/.'s management, although they claim we should not be concerned with their Moderation/Karma system, seem to be totaly obsessed with it themselves.
Anyone can look at the myriads of posts that I've submitted over the years, and see that nearly all of them are not only within the/. guidelines, but that I have put alot of effort into many of them, as far as research, and true feelings from my heart.
However because a hand full of these posts have somehow struck a nerve with the powers that be at/., I have been cast into a foreverness of the 'Bad Karma' abyss-- which has lasted well over a year steady. I have been labeled as such, more than not, as 'Bad Karma' during my approximate three years as an active poster/member.
This not only limits the readers who count on/. to 'weed' out the trash, but it gives the false, terrible impression that I am nothing but a troll & spammer
WORSE is that it puts a 'chilling effect' on anyone elses freedom to 'speak their mind' in full, when they see what happens to 'guys like me', should they 'do as I do'.
Of course anyone that has read my signitures know that I make light of this, and even relish in it, as I have come to believe that there is a new found exuberance, when being labeled a malcontent, by people who you volunteer for, to keep their web site active.
Who looks worse?
There is also a MUCH greater freedom in knowing that since they've basically 'hit me as hard as they can' in labeling me in a most negative way, that I am now truely free to express myself, without fear of being modded down any further.
However I do rarely post anymore on/. because of managements policies... not because of my label.
Frankly because of this article, knocking a web site who is more alternative, free, and controversial, is the only reason I am posting today, for the first time, in quite a while.
I'm sure the head Mods here at/. are sitting there thinking, that they 'look good', and all democratic and everything, because they are 'letting' Halvy run his mouth- again.
But it is exactly that arrogant thinking, that is the obvious and ominous, future down fall of/.
--The InterNet is a terrible thing to waste. Arrest Bill Gates, and shut down Microsoft immediately.
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Ok so I am replying to my own post-- but I didn't realize that the Gyach project has been picked up by some folks late last year and they are calling it: GyachI (I guess the 'I' is for improved, dont' know).
There is quite a bit of activity as posts in the forums are recent.
Also there is mention how it is possible to log off with Gyach (from yahoo of course), and still 'loom' around in voice and cam;) lol-- thank God for hackers and OSS!!
-- My favorite thing about OSS is its militancy!!
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I found in trying the previous version of Ekiga (GnomeMeeting 1.2.3x) on my Debian Sarge that both video and audio worked quite well both on my local network.. and over the Net.
is based on the Yahoo protocol ONLY.. but works quite well.
It is of course for Linux, free and hackable OSS, and easily connects with Yahoo users in Windows as well.
The project is in quiet rest now for about a year, but the program has advance features that even the crappy Yahoo for Linux or Windows has-- like: advanced security, monitoring, extreme stealth settings, ability to 'boot' the 'booter' or bot that is trying to 'boot' you, etc;)
-- SORRRRY!!! But I am still a proud member of SlashDot:)
Maybe they are smoking the same thing you are because if I'm not terribly mistaken any program in linux that can be compiled with gcc can be made to run in Microsoft os's... and visa versa.
-- Someone stold my 'Good' Karma.. please return it.
Following these error rates listed in that article, it is clear that they are not much different, if not WORSE than the troubles we see today, not using FingerPring technology to verify 'who we are' in normal everyday transactions!
The whole system needs to be 'dumped', in exchange for one where individuals will control ALL access to their data, without the prying eyes of banks, credit card companies, etc., therebye relieving the possibility of 'someone' calling and requesting data, and the consumer mistakeningly 'giving' it up.
Until we as citizens form our own coalition of a money or bartering system, in lieu of what the Government and Corporations have offered us, we are doomed to succumb to the tyranncy of: The System (ie. The Beast, The Machine, etc.).
-- Someone has stolen my 'good' Karma-- please return it.
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Ok, this takes the cake... someone who was/is in 'Psychology' & Criminal Justice, telling a new programmer how to go about it!!
I tried to find some good/correct/possitive things in this: 'Interesting' +3 modded post.. reallly, I did!!
lol.. but telling someone to 'work closely' with someone who already knows the 'stuff'??
Ahhhnd, goto your local library, for 'NEW' books!!
That part is not even vaguely amusing, let alone correct.
You will NOT find any newer books than at your local book store or online-- NOT in the library; they are rarely up2date, especially with the RepublicanTs in power.
-- Shheeeesh.. I beginning to feel like an old 'wash-woman', who should be paid by
assembler? why not start out with maths and physics first? them move up to electronics and the such. and dont't forget the holy scriptures and valium in between for soul nourishment.
Lol, I thought the same thing. Assembler to 'start out with'.. so you'll 'learn'??
Assembler at college level is considered one of thee HARDEST courses!!
WHHHY would anyone want to be soo discouraged right off the bat!
The bottom line, and the FACT is, programming in general, is like math..
If you were born with a 'nack' for it, fine.. but if not.. well, you will be VERY miserable in it-- the rest of your life.
Again, I'm amazed at the posts that are getting recognized by /. management recently, as; 'Insightful'... when the poster was clearly trolling by acting like noone else has posted anything worth while today in this thread.
Then again, maybe /. is using the 'other' meaning for the other word: INCITEFUL.
--
I know it might sound a little strange but if you can develop mainframe skills in 5 years you will be worth your weight in gold..
It DOES sound a little strange :)
This person is suppose to hon skills that 'might' be valuable in '5 years'??
LoL.
But what is even more amazingly strange sounding, is you got an 'Insightful'+4 for a remark that is sooo.. 'ridiculous'.
--
Buhhht, reallly, NOONE can stop a man from working.
Even in ANY of the Engineering disciplines. :)
-- My favorite thing about OSS.. IS its militancy!!
Being a black female with a disability also helps. (seriously I mean. Make use of anything you've got, it is YOUR future on the line (*) )
LoL!! And if you are like me, the largest 'minority' of all...
Ta da.. a 'White Guy'!! You can just rely on:
Ta DA!!
1) Uncle 'Pell' (Grant) or..
2) You can get a job and pay your own way!!
* I'll expect my Noble Prize for the 'Duh' award anytime soon :)
-- Firmely entrenched in 'Bad Karma'... Now I can FINALLY speak my mind.
I kept waiting for you to say you were just kidding..
Just because every time you pick up the fon for tec support these daze and you get a rag hed, doesn't mean ALL tec is moving off shores.
By the way, I use that term 'rag head' lovingly ;).
Furthermore, those Indians are MUCH better at being nice & knowledgable than the former USA reps!!
AHHHND, whooo wants those jobs anyway?? You? NOT me!
And PLEASE do tell us, since when is a potential programmers presence in the United States, stoping them from writing the next 'Killer App'?!
Not to mention, the miriad of work that needs to be done in OSS for the obviouse eventual down fall of M$??
-- Firmely entrenched into 'Bad Karma'... now I can FINALLY speak my mind.
I can't believe all the great posts that some folks put sooo much effort into here are not even getting modded, but the
-- Watch out /. here comes Digg :)
I'v coded for years with little need for extensive math or it's knowledge.
When the time did come, I would learn what I needed for that project, and that project only, therebye saving me time, agravation and sanity.
Why do soo many people act like you need to be Einstein to program?
NOTHING can be farther from the truth, unless you are going to create unusually extravagant projects like OS's, and full blown major apps like Word Processors, etc.
PLEASE stop scarring off potential great candidates with old-wives-tales.. PLEASE STOP IT!!
-- The InterNet is a terrible thing to waste, lets arrest Bill Gates and shut down Microsoft immediately.
As far as needing Uni, that is true only under certain circumstances like specialty jobs which entail more than just IT knowledge.
Generaly speaking I would not want to work permanently for a company who just looked at my formal education, but couldn't care less about what I'v done in the past, and my current ambition & Visa-Versa usually.
-- SORRRY!! But I am still a proud member of SlashDot :)
And our beloved government, is going to 'sell' our spectrum..
Hmmm, wonder if I'll see any of the money..
Oh yea, I'll see it in action when they finally catch & prosecute me for being a pirate to help bring down the scum Ceo's at the Clear Channel and AT&T types.
-- My favorite thing about OSS, is its Militancy!!
It is much easier to find this out AND bring them to justice, then those slimey stalkers with unlimited budgets who are our 'servants'.
-- My favorite thing about OSS, is its Militancy!!
Here is a good summary of how using existing power lines in your home, and from the power companies, to access network services such as the InterNet, is/may affect such groups as Amateur Radio Operators, EMS and Shotrwave listeners.
http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/
This is a link from within the one above which goes into more detail of BPL specifically.
http://glasnost.itcarlow.ie/~net4/kirwans/bband.ht ml
My question has always been why don't they use the actual AC current that is being transmitted at 60htz INSIDE the wire instead of over the magnetic fields around the wires?
In other words, JUST like the Cable Companies do??
I guess there is a simple reason for this, but from reading these articles, that as usual, this (BPL implementation) is being done ram-rod style by the powers-that-be, with little to no concern about what we think.
The term: 'over the lines', is usually meant, that the data, or power, is actually being carried IN the wire, not OVER, as in the magnetic field.
And yet this term has somehow been convoluted into meaning something different, at least in this extensive subject on BPL.
Why?
I am sure there are other 'better' ways to accomplish this idea.
Their (Powers-that-be) whole 'talk' on this is that we need them to build a whole new infrastructure to become a backbone (carrier) of the InterNet, in order to have BPL fullscale.
My first thought was, well why can't we have individuals have the 'routers' etc. necessary to pull this off in our neighborhoods?
Many have posted here in this thread, mentioning how the power lines act as an antenna...well, why isn't the idea of using this antenna, for what it is, being discussed?
For example, as someone joking mentioned here earlier about a ham operator firing up his transmitter, and it made a modem recycle in a coffee shop that was hooked up to bpl!! lol.
Sooo what about us 'directly' accessing this great-antenna-the-sky?
These ideas are not even brought up, let alone considered as a theory in ANYTHING I have read about this for the last several years-- when it first arose as a controversial issue.
It seems an aweful lot of 'data' can be sent down those thick wires hanging over our heads.
The bandwidth may not be what they are saying is going to be availible using 3mhz - 60mhz, but it seems that it would be at least be as much as what the cable cos are doing with their little coax!! (again, I'm asumming this is being done NON-INTRUSIVLY, as the Cable companies do, by using the actually AC current in the wire, instead of on the 'magnetic' fields outside of the wires.)
Cable companies send our tv, InterNet, and now fon service, over that little wire.
It is 'stepped up' and 'stepped down', several times during its journey..so there is no reason that the power companies cannot do this also.
Unless of course they just want to do this the cheapest and crapiest way possible, so it can be a falliure, other than the billions racked in by the Ceos and their buds.
Some of those high-tension Power wires are at least several notches thicker, and therefore can and do carrry a LOT more amps, than coax cables.
These specfic issue are either not mentioned, or glanced over at every opportunity.
I have a sneaky feeling, that something on the magnitude of p2p or free as in air, is looming on the horizon for us, concerning InterNet service, and the Ceo's are frantic to let us believe other wise.
-- My favorite thing about OSS-- IS its Militancy!!
You don't have to be an EE to understand at a most fundamental level that you can't send a complex modulated signal over unshielded wires without radiating it.
You don't?? Hrmmmm..
-- My favorite thing about OSS-- IS its Militancy!!
-- My favorite thing about OSS-- IS its Militancy!!
As far as the issues you mentioned:
#1 is not, because you admit it can be fixed once and for all by setting a switch.
#2 Apparently another poster just mentioned that 2.14 has finally fixed this issue.
However it is funny that you want something that helps reduce Gnome to 'One Button', when you imply this is what is making Gnome a useless manager!
Remember Gnome is older, more stable and STILL more Mac like (consider it's roots), and also more apt for the developers/hackers world... soooo hence the developers are not as quick to add features like this, when they use the shell which is usually infinitely 'faster' for their work/needs.
#3 & #4 Seem to be the same issue, which I don't have a problem doing this.. it may have been an isolated incident that you have run into. Try it again, I bet it works for you actually.
There is a reason Gnome is still going strong, and big time distros like Ubuntu are taking it under its wings.
It is because it is more secure and configurable, with more seasoned users and developers than any other manager, including Doze.
Just remember that Linux (Unix) is still considered quite new on the desktop, but it is quickly 'catching up', and we will soon have the best of all worlds. :)
-- My favorite thing about OSS-- is its Militancy!!
Unless you are an insider here (ie work for /.) you do not have the qualifications to make your simplistic, unsubstantiated reply.
And if you are a plant, then I have personally disproved your crap.
Most importantly, I'm sure I'm not the only 'professional' who relys less & less on this site for 'newz that matters'.
-- My favorite thing about OSS, is its MILITANCY!!
You can be one too.
And you are.. for calling him one.
But I'm not one, because I called you one.
Because you are really one, and I'm not...
A Jack Ass, that is, which Kevin can't be, for doing things 'his way', on 'his site'.
And you, who are definitely one, but probably doesn't think so.
I am definitely NOT one, unless I continue on. ;)
-- My favorite thing about OSS, is its MILITANCY!!
What are you, a TERRORIST!! ;)
In essence the 'public' companies (ie. isps, /.'s etc) are in effect doing the Government censoreship for them.
Same thing in 'real life'...only more live threatening.
If you are a male who continuely goes into supermarkets and 'flirts' with females.. and get 'tresspassed' to never go on their property, then the saying; 'just go somewhere else' will eventually not hold up, and you will literally get sick or die from not being able to go anywhere to buy food-- should you decide to 'excersise your right' to freedom of speech.
In both of these very real examples, the government was nowhere to be found, or had nothing to do with initiating any 'censorship'.
However they may have a hand in enforcing, what regular 'public', 'citizens', or businesses, have initiated as an attack on your personal/individual freedoms.
-- My favorite thing about OSS, is its MILITANCY!!
Good Digg posters are harder to find, but they are catching up in that area too.
I would think anyone who's been around here long enuff knows that /.'s management, although they claim we should not be concerned with their Moderation/Karma system, seem to be totaly obsessed with it themselves.
Anyone can look at the myriads of posts that I've submitted over the years, and see that nearly all of them are not only within the /. guidelines, but that I have put alot of effort into many of them, as far as research, and true feelings from my heart.
However because a hand full of these posts have somehow struck a nerve with the powers that be at /., I have been cast into a foreverness of the 'Bad Karma' abyss-- which has lasted well over a year steady. I have been labeled as such, more than not, as 'Bad Karma' during my approximate three years as an active poster/member.
This not only limits the readers who count on /. to 'weed' out the trash, but it gives the false, terrible impression that I am nothing but a troll & spammer
WORSE is that it puts a 'chilling effect' on anyone elses freedom to 'speak their mind' in full, when they see what happens to 'guys like me', should they 'do as I do'.
Of course anyone that has read my signitures know that I make light of this, and even relish in it, as I have come to believe that there is a new found exuberance, when being labeled a malcontent, by people who you volunteer for, to keep their web site active.
Who looks worse?
There is also a MUCH greater freedom in knowing that since they've basically 'hit me as hard as they can' in labeling me in a most negative way, that I am now truely free to express myself, without fear of being modded down any further.
However I do rarely post anymore on /. because of managements policies... not because of my label.
Frankly because of this article, knocking a web site who is more alternative, free, and controversial, is the only reason I am posting today, for the first time, in quite a while.
I'm sure the head Mods here at /. are sitting there thinking, that they 'look good', and all democratic and everything, because they are 'letting' Halvy run his mouth- again.
But it is exactly that arrogant thinking, that is the obvious and ominous, future down fall of /.
--The InterNet is a terrible thing to waste. Arrest Bill Gates, and shut down Microsoft immediately.
Ok so I am replying to my own post-- but I didn't realize that the Gyach project has been picked up by some folks late last year and they are calling it: GyachI (I guess the 'I' is for improved, dont' know).
http://gyachi.sourceforge.net/
There is quite a bit of activity as posts in the forums are recent.
Also there is mention how it is possible to log off with Gyach (from yahoo of course), and still 'loom' around in voice and cam ;) lol-- thank God for hackers and OSS!!
-- My favorite thing about OSS is its militancy!!
I found in trying the previous version of Ekiga (GnomeMeeting 1.2.3x) on my Debian Sarge that both video and audio worked quite well both on my local network.. and over the Net.
Another easy to remember named program-- Gyach, (I pronouce it: 'gotcha') is a voice/chat/video (webcam) program-- but not confrencing, is at:
http://www.phrozensmoke.com/projects/pyvoicechat/
is based on the Yahoo protocol ONLY.. but works quite well.
It is of course for Linux, free and hackable OSS, and easily connects with Yahoo users in Windows as well.
The project is in quiet rest now for about a year, but the program has advance features that even the crappy Yahoo for Linux or Windows has-- like: advanced security, monitoring, extreme stealth settings, ability to 'boot' the 'booter' or bot that is trying to 'boot' you, etc ;)
-- SORRRRY!!! But I am still a proud member of SlashDot :)
Maybe they are smoking the same thing you are because if I'm not terribly mistaken any program in linux that can be compiled with gcc can be made to run in Microsoft os's... and visa versa.
-- Someone stold my 'Good' Karma.. please return it.
How long are we going to wait for Big Brother to bankrupt us all with this false illusion of a possible secure money system?
A perfect example of how perceptions are almost always WRONG, is with FingerPrinting.
Here is a report on how the acuracy of FinerPrinting is finally being shown to be a technology filled with fallacy.
http://www.truthinjustice.org/fingerprints.htm
Following these error rates listed in that article, it is clear that they are not much different, if not WORSE than the troubles we see today, not using FingerPring technology to verify 'who we are' in normal everyday transactions!
The whole system needs to be 'dumped', in exchange for one where individuals will control ALL access to their data, without the prying eyes of banks, credit card companies, etc., therebye relieving the possibility of 'someone' calling and requesting data, and the consumer mistakeningly 'giving' it up.
Until we as citizens form our own coalition of a money or bartering system, in lieu of what the Government and Corporations have offered us, we are doomed to succumb to the tyranncy of: The System (ie. The Beast, The Machine, etc.).
-- Someone has stolen my 'good' Karma-- please return it.
Over the thick sculls of the fools who MAKE BELIEVE they are the authorities over all of us!!
This includes most CEO's who now calmly partake in this war against the individual.
The most asinine remark by them is:
"WELL!!.. IF you don't have anything to hide, then why worry about us watching your EVERY move!?!"..
Needs to be answered as such:
Well Mr. Legal STALKER, IF I am NOT doing anything wrong, AND I am 'presumed' innocent-- until proven guilty..
THEN WHAT THE HELL GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO STALK ME!!!".
Eh hem.. excuse me folks :)
-- SORRY!! But I am still a PROUD member of SlashDot :)