Go ahead and try to change something 'significantly' with the United States (Government)-- even through 'legitimate' means-- and it won't be long before we won't be seeing you post here any longer.
It is tooo easy to expect 'others' to accept: ridicule, starvation, jail or worse, in order to change their situation, but it is 'totally' another when you (ie. me, or anyone) have to make that difficult decision.
-- SORRRRY!! But I'm still a proud member of the SlashDot Community:)
Capitalism betrays two common HUMAN characteristics -- greed and jealousy. Any time a system is implemented that goes against those characteristics.. it's doomed. That's why the American ruling partys have been very accomodating to the 'common man', giving them opportunities and money they otherwise never would have seen.
But you can't have your cake and eat it too... they won't be able to yank the Internet from the American people without serious repercussions.
..I intend on proving that P2P can be used to the benefit of content creators, as a cheap and global vehicle for distribution and promotion...
Hey thanx for the update.
I really like your idea of explaining how this technology can actually help the content creators, however I'm sure you realize that they are not interested in anything other than trying to control everyones actions, which is consumming them like cancer as we speak.:)
I think many people are going to be shocked when the MPAA WINS these cases.
So let them win!!
The more 'they win', the more they will loose!!
Going to court proves they've lost anyway.
It's like going to court and asking the judge to 'stop' murder, stealing or harassment.
It just WON'T work.. but it will increase the ambitions of the Pirates and OSS communities-- to show: 'who the real boss is' (ie. us), and who 'really makes the rules around here' (us, again). lol
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How the f^&* do you expect *routing* to work, with..... what multimillions?? of routing updates/second??? BGP4 works OK, but it only has about 180k routes in "the Internet routing table" (no such thing as this really..
Ok buba, lets start with the basics.. 'fire bad', 'food goood', k?
With an attitude like yours, we'll never get this done!
I'm not a Network Specialist by any means, but I can understand both the thesis of this thread, which is not speed, but whether this can be done, at all.
And I even have some ideas to your seemingly 'defeatist' attitude about routing.
If each community had either a roaming gateway, or a perminant one for that matter, this would help solve your problem.
Sooo put down that coffee cup cave man, and put your thinknig cap on before you run your fat mouth:)
-- Someone has my 'Good Karma'... Please give it back!
Not everyone needs to have a hard wired hook up in order to keep up the system we have now.
Most peoples current home routers can easily accommodate 'meshing' with several hundred other 'nearbye' wireless folks.
Your point about bandwidth could be, and would only NEED to be addressed when we started to get outside our communities and cities.
And even then, should the 'big boys' mess with us, we can use your idea of 'focal' point RF and satellite links, either to space satellites or earth microwave links 10's of miles 'down the road' to the next city.
This would drive the 'big boys' crazy and help put them outa business, especially if 'everyone' had this ability to satellite link to the nearest town.
Regardless, the point of the article I believe is not bandwidth or speed, but to see how 'WE' can break the backs of the scumbag Ceo's and 'G' men, before they break the backbone of 'Our' InterNet.
-- Someones got my 'Good Karma'.. give it back!!:)
Wow, its as if the drooling wireless fanboys suddenly discovered life beyond an IP address assigned via DHCP. Please pay attention, children...
The internet is composed of 'autonomous systems' - each autonomous system or 'AS' has one or more netblocks of a/24 or larger in size. Each AS connects to at least one other AS, makes at least one netblock available via BGP, and thusly the internet is stitched together. Find this shocking an incomprehensible? Try this
telnet route-views.oregon-ix.net
follow your nose through the login procedure, then type 'show ip bgp [your IP address]' and see what it says. Oh, if your IP address is 192.168.x.x, 10.x.x.x, or 172.16-31.x.x and you put that in please step away from the computer now and ask someone with a clue for help.
'Sounds Like'... You've been pouring a bottle down your nec.:)
(I know my explanation is dumbed down and it is much more complicated, but I spared details for those who never took a proper networking class)
Well maybe you should take a 'comprehension' class as well, because you didn't address the issue here, which is that the Internet is NOT working NOW!
Corporations & Governments are undermining the Internet at a fast and furious past.
Therefore a redesigned iNet, which would bring back the initial intention, only better, albeit possibly slower to start out with, would be a possible welcomed thing.
The point I think here is that we must be willing to bite the bullet on things like you point out, in lieu of accepting what the corporations are getting ready to dish out to us, which in the long run will totally ruin the Net... or whats left of it.
If there were some open nationwide RF specifically for a People's Internet then I could see a nationwide wireless internet running in less than 5 years. It would need no government intervention at all and would be free.
What are you a terrorist!!;)
-- My favorite thing about OSS *is* its Militancy!
And everyone knows that breaking them, en masse, is the ONLY way to change them.
Lets see what Gates & Co. do, as they watch in 'Terror', the continual erroding of their licenses and patents, swells to critical mass, because of the wonderful creations of P2P, Linux and OSS.
-- My favorite part of OSS.. 'IS' its militancy!!!
It is quite cutting edge so expect 'quirks', but it is fun to run it.
Personally I settled on Mozilla because it is still the granddaddy, and therefore I believe the best balance of new features & stability.
I don't care that Mozilla doesn't have the newest toys, support or following like 'FireFox'.. because I'v (we've) been through that before with (you know what-- 10 years ago) so I 'purposefully' don't use FireFox (ie. because 'everyone' else does) =:]
-- My favorite thing about OSS-- IS its militancy.
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Many people realize that companies like Google are fraudulent.
Their service are suppose to be 'Free'. But the hours and days devoted to finding: simple, basic, common information-- is a costly crime in itself.
So where are the lawsuits and 'outrage' (other than in front of our computers every day)?
Because this type of accepted 'business model' is prevalent and imbeded into our world-- there is little the average person can do to change it, apparently-- and until now.
But like so many other things in the average persons life, most still: 'make believe' that Google is good, and does what it says it does.
However with the continual discoveries that ALL the leaders of governments, businesses, religions, etc. are part of this Google-like criminal conspiracy, the problem is seen more as something that CAN BE tackled.
These 'leaders' would have all of us believe that we will starve and die if things don't continue on 'the way they are'..(ie.with these handful of criminals in charge).
Bust or not, the criminal 'leaders' are ignorant of the fact that NOONE can stop a man from defending himself, hunting, working, or conspiring good deeds-- in his heart..
Leaders in countries like the USA are showing signs of loosing control of the masses...
They are caught in a quandry that leaves them no choice, but retreat..
However with the proliferation of nuclear arms into many decenters hands, 'The Man' is backed into a corner.
His choices now ONLY consist of the following.
- Nuke the whole earth in a fit of rage:
This is highly unlikely, knowing how 'The Man' likes to live lavishly, while we toil for him in worrisome torture.
- Nuke only 'problem parts of the earth':
Another prospect that the man knows will lead more quickly to his loss of power-- since at the very start of this insanity, the masses will FINALLY rush him and his supporters, en masse, for a decided 'overthrow' of the current criminal system.
- Do nothing:
The Man knows we are onto his scheme, and that we are plotting his eventually being brought to 'severe justice'.
So he cannot stand still-- but he cannot bring himself to leaving the position he has so dearly enjoyed for ages.
-- Safely entrenched at the bottom of 'Bad Karma', now I can finally speak my mind..
How cowardly. To stand up against the US gov't when you're protected by tons of ACLU type lawyers isn't brave at all.
Unless your not really standing up to anything.
The U.S. DOJ (and it's lackies) are not afraid of the ACLU, nor much else.
But they are human, and therefore they do have a 'fear factor'... everyone does.
And that fear is.. us, 'We The People', standing up to them, in everyway possible, disrespecting them, hunting them down-- to bring them 'justice', little by little, until en masse, more and more, everyday.
When we speak of 'Google', we are actually only speaking about 1 or 2 men in the company, who are probably crapping their pants, hopping the DOJ doesn't call their bluff-- before they buckle.
It's the same with the U.S. Feds.. there are only a couple or so scumbags behind this 'push' to save our kids from porno (supposedly), but those commands given out by the scum somehow 'trickle' down.. but not always.
There are more and more threats and incidents against these coward Federal prosecutors, judges, etc... and they are begining to become effective.
The same holds true for the commies in power in China.
-- The InterNet is a terrible thing to waste. Let's arrest Bill Gates and shut down Microsoft immediately.
You are a very suspicious sounding person who seems to be covering up serious crimes like child molestation and worse..
We need to investigate you and see what is in your closet.
And if the police wont do it, then we, The People, need to take maters into our own hands, to protect ourselves-- and our children, from potential predators like you.
-- Securely entrenched at the bottom of 'Bad Karma'.. now I can finally speak my mind..
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You are wrong.
Go ahead and try to change something 'significantly' with the United States (Government)-- even through 'legitimate' means-- and it won't be long before we won't be seeing you post here any longer.
It is tooo easy to expect 'others' to accept: ridicule, starvation, jail or worse, in order to change their situation, but it is 'totally' another when you (ie. me, or anyone) have to make that difficult decision.
-- SORRRRY!! But I'm still a proud member of the SlashDot Community :)
Capitalism betrays two common HUMAN characteristics -- greed and jealousy. Any time a system is implemented that goes against those characteristics.. it's doomed. That's why the American ruling partys have been very accomodating to the 'common man', giving them opportunities and money they otherwise never would have seen. But you can't have your cake and eat it too... they won't be able to yank the Internet from the American people without serious repercussions.
Hey thanx for the update.
I really like your idea of explaining how this technology can actually help the content creators, however I'm sure you realize that they are not interested in anything other than trying to control everyones actions, which is consumming them like cancer as we speak. :)
-- My favorite thing about OSS is it's militancy!
I think many people are going to be shocked when the MPAA WINS these cases.
So let them win!!
The more 'they win', the more they will loose!!
Going to court proves they've lost anyway.
It's like going to court and asking the judge to 'stop' murder, stealing or harassment.
It just WON'T work.. but it will increase the ambitions of the Pirates and OSS communities-- to show: 'who the real boss is' (ie. us), and who 'really makes the rules around here' (us, again). lol
-- SlashDots Moderation System is not broke, it is fixed.
That is a wonderful idea!!
But be assured the 'Jewish Mafia' will create a law that will consider it terrorism or some other nonsensical thing.
-- Firmely entrenched at the bottom of 'Bad Karma', now I can finally speak my mind.
How the f^&* do you expect *routing* to work, with..... what multimillions?? of routing updates/second??? BGP4 works OK, but it only has about 180k routes in "the Internet routing table" (no such thing as this really..
Ok buba, lets start with the basics.. 'fire bad', 'food goood', k?
With an attitude like yours, we'll never get this done!
I'm not a Network Specialist by any means, but I can understand both the thesis of this thread, which is not speed, but whether this can be done, at all.
And I even have some ideas to your seemingly 'defeatist' attitude about routing.
If each community had either a roaming gateway, or a perminant one for that matter, this would help solve your problem.
Sooo put down that coffee cup cave man, and put your thinknig cap on before you run your fat mouth :)
-- Someone has my 'Good Karma'... Please give it back!
You make an aweful lot of 'wrong' assumptions.
Not everyone needs to have a hard wired hook up in order to keep up the system we have now.
Most peoples current home routers can easily accommodate 'meshing' with several hundred other 'nearbye' wireless folks.
Your point about bandwidth could be, and would only NEED to be addressed when we started to get outside our communities and cities.
And even then, should the 'big boys' mess with us, we can use your idea of 'focal' point RF and satellite links, either to space satellites or earth microwave links 10's of miles 'down the road' to the next city.
This would drive the 'big boys' crazy and help put them outa business, especially if 'everyone' had this ability to satellite link to the nearest town.
Regardless, the point of the article I believe is not bandwidth or speed, but to see how 'WE' can break the backs of the scumbag Ceo's and 'G' men, before they break the backbone of 'Our' InterNet.
-- Someones got my 'Good Karma'.. give it back!! :)
Wow, its as if the drooling wireless fanboys suddenly discovered life beyond an IP address assigned via DHCP. Please pay attention, children
'Sounds Like'... You've been pouring a bottle down your nec. :)
-- My favorite part of OSS *is* its Militancy!
(I know my explanation is dumbed down and it is much more complicated, but I spared details for those who never took a proper networking class)
Well maybe you should take a 'comprehension' class as well, because you didn't address the issue here, which is that the Internet is NOT working NOW!
Corporations & Governments are undermining the Internet at a fast and furious past.
Therefore a redesigned iNet, which would bring back the initial intention, only better, albeit possibly slower to start out with, would be a possible welcomed thing.
Are you 'with us'-- yet-- there bud? :)
-- My favorite part of OSS *is* its Militancy!
The point I think here is that we must be willing to bite the bullet on things like you point out, in lieu of accepting what the corporations are getting ready to dish out to us, which in the long run will totally ruin the Net... or whats left of it.
-- My favorite part of OSS *is* its Militancy!
If there were some open nationwide RF specifically for a People's Internet then I could see a nationwide wireless internet running in less than 5 years. It would need no government intervention at all and would be free.
What are you a terrorist!! ;)
-- My favorite thing about OSS *is* its Militancy!
-- My favorite thing about OSS *is* its Militancy!
I wouldn't hold my breath there buddy, cause a book aint gunna help the helpless.
You keep waiting for Gates & Co. to deliver your stock programs.
And several million other folks and myself will continue to improve an OS that has its roots in the worlds phone network and the InterNet.
What's funny is people 'like you' are sort of 'locked' out of the real benefits of Linux by 'default', because of your IQ and propensity to learn. :)
-- My favorite thing about OSS *IS* its Militancy!!
yea really mr. troll (lol) you can go out and buy a linux compatable sound card.. just like windoze people do.
So you'd have sound AND you'd be supporting companies that are bucking 'The Man' and 'The System' at the same time..
Sooo shaddup and do something.. we have the tools :)
-- My favorite thing about OSS *IS* its Militancy!!
And everyone knows that breaking them, en masse, is the ONLY way to change them.
Lets see what Gates & Co. do, as they watch in 'Terror', the continual erroding of their licenses and patents, swells to critical mass, because of the wonderful creations of P2P, Linux and OSS.
-- My favorite part of OSS.. 'IS' its militancy!!!
thanx, now i want a juicey apple pies and can't have one =:(
-- The InterNet is terrible thing to waste. Let's arrest the Ceo's of all the major ISPs and shut down MicroSoft.
Where they belong.
Like nearly everyone, I'm totaly sick of our governments protecting baby killers (abortionists) and child molesters (queers, homos, faggets).
If we don't start executing these radical homos quickly, they will execute us when they are done comming to power.
-- Safely entrenched at the bottom of 'Bad Karma'.. now I can FINALLY speak my mind.
I am disappointed that there seems to still be no support for "live bookmarks" (RSS feeds in bookmark form)
Kazehakase brower has rss bookmarks. It is gecko based and therefore very similar to Mozilla, but a completely different branch.
http://freshmeat.net/projects/kazehakase/
It is quite cutting edge so expect 'quirks', but it is fun to run it.
Personally I settled on Mozilla because it is still the granddaddy, and therefore I believe the best balance of new features & stability.
I don't care that Mozilla doesn't have the newest toys, support or following like 'FireFox'.. because I'v (we've) been through that before with (you know what-- 10 years ago) so I 'purposefully' don't use FireFox (ie. because 'everyone' else does) =:]
-- My favorite thing about OSS-- IS its militancy.
If you have not listened to Theorectical Physicist Michio Kaku http://www.mkaku.org/ then you are in for QUIT a treat!!
This man is absolutely brilliant in not just string theory, but space and time travel, and quantum physics.
He states his belief in God, but will answer questions that he does not have 'facts' for with a: "I take a agnositc point of view on that matter.."
LOL!! Even tho I don't understand hardly a darn thing the man says.. I KNOW you will enjoy listen/reading him if you do!! :)
One interesting interview with him http://www.universetoday.com/am/publish/advanced_c ivilization_become.html
-- SlashDot's Moderation system is not broke, it is fixed.
Many people realize that companies like Google are fraudulent.
Their service are suppose to be 'Free'. But the hours and days devoted to finding: simple, basic, common information-- is a costly crime in itself.
So where are the lawsuits and 'outrage' (other than in front of our computers every day)?
Because this type of accepted 'business model' is prevalent and imbeded into our world-- there is little the average person can do to change it, apparently-- and until now.
But like so many other things in the average persons life, most still: 'make believe' that Google is good, and does what it says it does.
However with the continual discoveries that ALL the leaders of governments, businesses, religions, etc. are part of this Google-like criminal conspiracy, the problem is seen more as something that CAN BE tackled.
These 'leaders' would have all of us believe that we will starve and die if things don't continue on 'the way they are'..(ie.with these handful of criminals in charge).
Bust or not, the criminal 'leaders' are ignorant of the fact that NOONE can stop a man from defending himself, hunting, working, or conspiring good deeds-- in his heart..
Leaders in countries like the USA are showing signs of loosing control of the masses...
They are caught in a quandry that leaves them no choice, but retreat..
However with the proliferation of nuclear arms into many decenters hands, 'The Man' is backed into a corner.
His choices now ONLY consist of the following.
- Nuke the whole earth in a fit of rage:
This is highly unlikely, knowing how 'The Man' likes to live lavishly, while we toil for him in worrisome torture.
- Nuke only 'problem parts of the earth':
Another prospect that the man knows will lead more quickly to his loss of power-- since at the very start of this insanity, the masses will FINALLY rush him and his supporters, en masse, for a decided 'overthrow' of the current criminal system.
- Do nothing:
The Man knows we are onto his scheme, and that we are plotting his eventually being brought to 'severe justice'.
So he cannot stand still-- but he cannot bring himself to leaving the position he has so dearly enjoyed for ages.
-- Safely entrenched at the bottom of 'Bad Karma', now I can finally speak my mind..
How cowardly. To stand up against the US gov't when you're protected by tons of ACLU type lawyers isn't brave at all.
Unless your not really standing up to anything.
The U.S. DOJ (and it's lackies) are not afraid of the ACLU, nor much else.
But they are human, and therefore they do have a 'fear factor'... everyone does.
And that fear is.. us, 'We The People', standing up to them, in everyway possible, disrespecting them, hunting them down-- to bring them 'justice', little by little, until en masse, more and more, everyday.
When we speak of 'Google', we are actually only speaking about 1 or 2 men in the company, who are probably crapping their pants, hopping the DOJ doesn't call their bluff-- before they buckle.
It's the same with the U.S. Feds.. there are only a couple or so scumbags behind this 'push' to save our kids from porno (supposedly), but those commands given out by the scum somehow 'trickle' down.. but not always.
There are more and more threats and incidents against these coward Federal prosecutors, judges, etc... and they are begining to become effective.
The same holds true for the commies in power in China.
-- The InterNet is a terrible thing to waste. Let's arrest Bill Gates and shut down Microsoft immediately.
That government in China can not last, none do.
And the bad guys are trying to fix this problem of 'them not lasting..'.
And Google is helping them, proving once again that large corporations are 'all-in-on-it'.
If you stop and think, commies and capitalist are cut from the same cloth.. both systems wind up quickly with very few men, with all the marbles.
The rest of us either live in debt to them, or live as peasants. :(
--Firmly entrenched at the bottom of 'Bad Karma'.. now I can finally speak my mind..
I don't believe China's way is the best, but I'm not sure. And neither are you.
Speak for your self.
Google is conspiring with commies to censor opposition.
There is no need for this, because Google has the upper hand.
They don't need China.
Is China going to devulge to Google all sorts of information that will lead to the Government's demise? haha.
However China needs Google, if not for it's technological presence, than to be able to say: "look how cool and democratic we are...".
-- SlashDot's Moderation System is not broke. It is fixed.
Google OBVIOUSLEY has the upper hand.
What are the Jew-Mafia supporting Feds gunnu do, shut down google?
So the fud starts.
No doubt those in authority at Google have/are being threatened to submit.
You will continuely see these despicable acts done by the Jewish Mafia, via the spinleless U.S. Federal Authorities-- until, well, we stop them.
-- SlashDot's Moderation System is not broke. It is fixed.
You are a very suspicious sounding person who seems to be covering up serious crimes like child molestation and worse..
We need to investigate you and see what is in your closet.
And if the police wont do it, then we, The People, need to take maters into our own hands, to protect ourselves-- and our children, from potential predators like you.
-- Securely entrenched at the bottom of 'Bad Karma'.. now I can finally speak my mind..