I've seen those images and while they are impressive, I think what they are showing are artifacts from image compression. Have any of the probes taken high resolution images of this area. I would think the EU probe could provide some resolution to this issue.
Human space exploration with current technology is just way too expensive, dangerous, and time consuming.
We can send dozens of sophisticated robots out into the solar system for the cost of sending one manned mission back to the moon.
We can send robots to the most distant reaches of the solar system. The furthest we can reasonably expect to send a manned mission with today's tech is Mars.
I would rather, in my lifetime, see photos from the depths of the Europan Oceans, from the surface of Pluto, from the surface of Titan. I would rather, in my lifetime, see robotic archeological digs done on the surface of these worlds. All the while we would be learning how to work in space without the cost and danger.
I would rather see these things, than have one half-assed attempt to get some people onto the surface of Mars, made by some government to prove it's technological prowess over all of the rest of the nations of the world.
We'll know when it's time to send men when the cost is within an order of magnitude of sending a robot.
is not going to be released until 2006. In the meantime any professional web designer worth her salt is developing with standards. People like Zeldman are doing a great job of spreading the word to the design community. Web designers and developers are on the front lines of this war - not the consumer. It doesn't matter how many of your moms are using FireFox, if her bank site only works with IE then she she will only use IE. It is up to the designer/developer, if we want a standards based infrastructure then we have to impress upon our clients how using standards will save them money and improve their ability to communicate with their clients. We then have to have the discipline and the knowledge to build our web based applications to conform to those standards and to avoid Microsoft only features. If we can accomplish this, then Microsoft will have no choice but to create a browser that conforms.
Do you have a link to a photo of the place where this thing is supposed to be? I have been unable to find one that I can be sure is of the spot where this thing was, for all I know it's still there.
Does anyone have any idea ho much wind would be necessary to blow this something around on the surface of Mars, Isn't the atmosphere 1/100th of that on earth. Wouldn't wind tend to blow things to the bottom of that crater and not up and out of it?
The martian crab
http://homepage.mac.com/thomasmcgee/
I know, I know, go ahead, mod me off topic.
The truth is out there.
Would anyone like to start a petition that requests NASA to try to get one more photo of this thing before they drive away?
I find the lack of interest that NASA has shown for the "claw" as the article puts it, to be very interesting. I'm relatively convinced that it must be a piece of the airbag or possibly debris that was ejected when the pyros were fired to release the rover.
What I don't understand is why NASA hasn't released another image from a different angle. Aren't they at all interested in what part of the lander/rover it is? If they intend to use the airbag method for landing probes on Mars in the future why don't they want to know what parts are falling off of the spacecraft they are sending?
I'm certainly not suggesting that there is a conspiracy, that NASA is deliberately covering up evidence of past or present life on Mars. I have nothing but the greatest respect for the men and women who are working on these projects. I also understand that they have better things to do than react to crackpots who are crying cover-up because NASA won't try to get a better snapshot of the "face" for the third time. But I am not happy when they fail to even remark upon an object that is obviously there and obviously odd looking.
It is possible that they are using the buzz being generated by this object to attract attention to the program. I certainly hope that's not the case, as NASA does not need that kind of attention.
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I've seen those images and while they are impressive, I think what they are showing are artifacts from image compression. Have any of the probes taken high resolution images of this area. I would think the EU probe could provide some resolution to this issue.
Human space exploration with current technology is just way too expensive, dangerous, and time consuming.
We can send dozens of sophisticated robots out into the solar system for the cost of sending one manned mission back to the moon.
We can send robots to the most distant reaches of the solar system. The furthest we can reasonably expect to send a manned mission with today's tech is Mars.
I would rather, in my lifetime, see photos from the depths of the Europan Oceans, from the surface of Pluto, from the surface of Titan. I would rather, in my lifetime, see robotic archeological digs done on the surface of these worlds. All the while we would be learning how to work in space without the cost and danger.
I would rather see these things, than have one half-assed attempt to get some people onto the surface of Mars, made by some government to prove it's technological prowess over all of the rest of the nations of the world.
We'll know when it's time to send men when the cost is within an order of magnitude of sending a robot.
great link!, thanks
I've been looking in vain for information about the flyby of Titan that you say happens today, do you have a link?
is not going to be released until 2006. In the meantime any professional web designer worth her salt is developing with standards. People like Zeldman are doing a great job of spreading the word to the design community. Web designers and developers are on the front lines of this war - not the consumer. It doesn't matter how many of your moms are using FireFox, if her bank site only works with IE then she she will only use IE. It is up to the designer/developer, if we want a standards based infrastructure then we have to impress upon our clients how using standards will save them money and improve their ability to communicate with their clients. We then have to have the discipline and the knowledge to build our web based applications to conform to those standards and to avoid Microsoft only features. If we can accomplish this, then Microsoft will have no choice but to create a browser that conforms.
Do you have a link to a photo of the place where this thing is supposed to be? I have been unable to find one that I can be sure is of the spot where this thing was, for all I know it's still there.
Does anyone have any idea ho much wind would be necessary to blow this something around on the surface of Mars, Isn't the atmosphere 1/100th of that on earth. Wouldn't wind tend to blow things to the bottom of that crater and not up and out of it?
ugh, for the copy/paste challenged the Martian Crab
The martian crab http://homepage.mac.com/thomasmcgee/ I know, I know, go ahead, mod me off topic. The truth is out there. Would anyone like to start a petition that requests NASA to try to get one more photo of this thing before they drive away?
I find the lack of interest that NASA has shown for the "claw" as the article puts it, to be very interesting. I'm relatively convinced that it must be a piece of the airbag or possibly debris that was ejected when the pyros were fired to release the rover.
What I don't understand is why NASA hasn't released another image from a different angle. Aren't they at all interested in what part of the lander/rover it is? If they intend to use the airbag method for landing probes on Mars in the future why don't they want to know what parts are falling off of the spacecraft they are sending?
I'm certainly not suggesting that there is a conspiracy, that NASA is deliberately covering up evidence of past or present life on Mars. I have nothing but the greatest respect for the men and women who are working on these projects. I also understand that they have better things to do than react to crackpots who are crying cover-up because NASA won't try to get a better snapshot of the "face" for the third time. But I am not happy when they fail to even remark upon an object that is obviously there and obviously odd looking.
It is possible that they are using the buzz being generated by this object to attract attention to the program. I certainly hope that's not the case, as NASA does not need that kind of attention.