There is nothing that stops people from creating USB devices that can rewrite their own ID similar to how there is nothing to stop you from using a different MAC.
If that is the only line of defense, economic incentives for the crackers will make sure you can buy a v2 with "valid" Sony ID or simply a changeable one.
So, the iPad is groundbreaking but Google Maps & Earth is not? Free navigation that was actually use-able? Before that, Europe had viamichelin.com which varied in quality on a monthly basis and some other Java-based crapgeds.
What about Google Mail? Does anyone remember the state of free web-mail before Google?
IBM had a ton of earth-shattering innovations. PCs with truly interchangeable parts that spoke open standards, anyone? What about the AS/400 and its precedesors?
> Getting Webkit in is a big first step; the rest will come, in time, and quickly, I'm sure. I would expect to see a fully functional Konq+Webkit by this year's end.
Webkit has been "in" since KDE 4.3 or 4.4. I have been submitting bug reports like crazy and things have become a lot better. Yet, in 4.4.5 the Webkit Kpart degraded so badly that I had to stop using it altogether to stop Konqui Segfaulting after mere seconds of use.
The people who think they like Webkit will find out what the seperate thread for Flash in KTHML is worth. A _lot_.
I hope that by the time 4.6 comes around more people than just me report bugs and that Webkit gets the features it lacks when compared to KHTML.
As an aside, I think Webkit will be better in the long run. But it _definetely_ can not fully replace KHTML, just yet.
Not sure what they plan with Linux, but if the _really_ cared, they would simply release ZFS under the GPL instead of blubbering about their IP and CDDL.
As of late, most news relating to btrfs seems to point out problems, but maybe that is simply the sign of maturing. Having been bitten by OCFS2 a _lot_, I will step slowly with Oracle-based FS.
Unless you actually know your car and the delta that is applied. That, or you simply have a GPS which is not connected to the on-board computer and thus doesn't cheat you.
I don't think the signs mean "you must display the exact same number on your speed gauge", but "this is the max speed, measured from the outside".
> An ad hominem attack would imply that because you drive poorly, your argument is invalid, such as saying "people like you can't possibly know anything about safe driving". Rather, that was just a subtle insult.
True. I thought it was just any personal attack during an argument.
> Regardless of level, I've never seen a school that wasn't active all year long in some form.
And you know all schools? I have not seen a school in which any pupil was during the holidays. Never, ever.
> Hence my comment regarding a mile-high wall. It's the only way to be even slightly certain nobody's there.
Or a wide schoolground covered with grass, easily viewable completely.
> The ones you may not have seen because you were speeding. Going 166% of the legal speed means your available time to see, recognize, and react to a condition is reduced by 40%. That means you missed 40% of the sensory observations available at that time. If those observations had indicated there were children present......well I guess that'd just be too bad, wouldn't it? Those 10 seconds were important!
So, I missed 40% of nothing? Also, please factor in the average driver, who is not attentive, and me, who is attentive, especially in the situation above. What percentage does that come to? If someone is texting, I would say the difference would be about 100%.
Anyway, the point of missing details such as children is moot. There were none. You are welcome to come visit me and have a look for yourself. If you don't want to do that you will have to take my word for it. Or not. Both is fine.
> There is no end. I just happen to follow road rules - annoys the wife which is an added bonus and possibly an end in itself there.
Not married yet, but you might think about marriage counseling. Seriously.
> I guess I don't see any point in not following them. I don't drive enough for it to make a difference if I get everywhere 5-10km/h faster.
Which also makes you less save while driving (generally speaking) as you lack experience. Which in turn, gives you less base for your arguments imo.
> And figure (somewhat naively and foolishly probably given revenue production is a likely motivation) that the rules were made up by people more knowledgabe than me in order to make things better for everyone.
I know quite a few people in official positions. Public entities lack the need to be cooperative and it shows in both internal culture and selection of employees.
> Of course in practice driving at the speed level on the freeway/highway is likely more dangerous than going 10 over and not being overtaken every few seconds.
Apples and oranges. Speed in and as of itself is not dangerous; it depends on context. How fast is Earth revolving around itself? Around the sun? The sun around the center of our galaxy? Our galaxy hurtling towards whatever?
The allowed speed on normal out-of-town speeds is 100 km/h in Germany. Passing a car that drives in the other direction, you have 20 or 40 cm distance between the mirrors, tops. Yet, it is safe to pass each other at a relative speed of 200 km/h with _no_ protection whatsoever.
Driving over a deep pothole at 50 km/h can break stuff and send you into the nearest wall.
Context, context, context.
> But I like relaxing in the slow lane:)
As long as you stay in the slow lane, that is more than fine. Really, it is. Unfortunately, most people seem to think the right lane is poisonous and they will die if driving on it.
But you are aware that a car always shows too much speed? I.e. if you set it a mile below, you will prolly end up driving about 6-7 miles below the limit. If you are blocking others behind you by doing that, that is wrong as well. Obviously, if you live in ten-lane-country, that is not a concern.
> Let's say that one time out of million, you fatally hit a kid in the school zone. That's assuming a 50% fatality rate, and a 1-in-500,000 chance of collision. Assuming it's a secondary school, that puts the kid at about 18 years old. Also assuming an average life span, you just cost that person 50 years of life.
Assuming is fine and dandy, but let me repeat what I said again and again:
1) basic school 2) nothing like summer school, no playground 3) perfect view over all the schoolground, no parked cars to hide behind 4) well-kept car with extremely aggressive brakes and new tires 5) attentive driver, especially since he goes past a school; no matter what i wrote above
All that, plus I still maintain someone doing 30 and not paying attention is a _lot_ more dangerous. Yet, I doubt that half the effort that various people extended just now would have been extended to someone who does 30 and talks on his cellphone.
> But the issue with your original statement is that the context that matters is the one of the policeman watching you.
Not really. If I get a ticket because I broke a rule, that is an accepted risk. It does not factor into my decisions (unless some policeman is directly behind me)
> I can't imagine how you'd argue the ticket simply by saying, "I know it's not the right speed limit!"
I wouldn't. My decision, my risk, my consequences. No weaseling out.
> I seem to distinctly remember students visiting my high school during breaks for school meetings, extra-curricular school activities, and simply meeting friends.
High school != basic school.
> Of course, as you said, the situation might have justified it. Maybe the roughly 10 seconds you saved was worth sacrificing the safety of children.
Again: What children? There were none. If you read the other postings instead of thinking up sneaky ways to feel superior, you would know why. And yes, that was my own sneaky way to get back to you. You're welcome;)
If everything above is true, accept my apologies, you are clearly more self-controlled than me. One might wonder to what end, but that is a different matter.
> Sorry for the double post, but I envy you and your Autobahn.
Yes, it's one of the nicer things about Germany. And the option to go fast if you need/want to is nice. Also, it helps in curbing street races and the like. What's the point when you can just drive up and down on a highway, legally?
> Freeways can get so irritating in the US.
Agreed. My somewhat limited experience across the USA and Canada can be summarized as sssslllllllooooooowwwwwwww.
> What about camp or daycare? The elementary schools in the district also have daycare and summer classes. They also have classes for the mentally handicapped over the summer.
OK, can we just say that I know my local area better than you? I know, this might stretch things very far as this is/., but things are starting to get ridiculous.
> German road engineering is typically very good. I'm a bit sceptical that they have a 30km/h school zone in the middle of an otherwise 100km/h open road, that doesn't at least step down through an 80km/h zone first.
100 km/h for a few kilometers, 30 km/h for about 50 meters, 50 km/h after that. Yes, it sucks. And yes, they changed it in the meantime though I think they step down to 70 km/h not 80 km/h before the city sign.
> Yes. This is especially true if the school is the one responsible for putting the signs up and down, because they might know something about what's happening there that you don't, and hence have had a good reason for putting the signs up.
They are not. It's the city's responsibility. Related & near, but not the same. As stated in other posts on this minor shitstorm I caused there was nothing else going on.
> There are times and places to drive fast. Urban areas are most definitely not one of them.
I would argue that someone in a modern car with good brakes, good tires, excellent view over all the area and attentive at 50 km/h is saver for everyone involved than someone who is careless, can't drive his crap car and goes 30 km/h. But tbh, I don't want to drag this on endlessly.
My point was "what makes you so special that you can ignore speed signs?" Let's not take eternity, let's take the last year. Not a single speeding incident, not even 1 km/h too much for one second? Not counting outside circumstances or "this guy has one arm less, we need to get to the hospital NOW" and other extremes, of course.
If you had even one of those incidents, and you most likely did, it's not special. And the "special" was the word I was referring to.
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There is nothing that stops people from creating USB devices that can rewrite their own ID similar to how there is nothing to stop you from using a different MAC.
If that is the only line of defense, economic incentives for the crackers will make sure you can buy a v2 with "valid" Sony ID or simply a changeable one.
So, the iPad is groundbreaking but Google Maps & Earth is not? Free navigation that was actually use-able? Before that, Europe had viamichelin.com which varied in quality on a monthly basis and some other Java-based crapgeds.
What about Google Mail? Does anyone remember the state of free web-mail before Google?
IBM had a ton of earth-shattering innovations. PCs with truly interchangeable parts that spoke open standards, anyone? What about the AS/400 and its precedesors?
> Getting Webkit in is a big first step; the rest will come, in time, and quickly, I'm sure. I would expect to see a fully functional Konq+Webkit by this year's end.
Webkit has been "in" since KDE 4.3 or 4.4. I have been submitting bug reports like crazy and things have become a lot better. Yet, in 4.4.5 the Webkit Kpart degraded so badly that I had to stop using it altogether to stop Konqui Segfaulting after mere seconds of use.
The people who think they like Webkit will find out what the seperate thread for Flash in KTHML is worth. A _lot_.
I hope that by the time 4.6 comes around more people than just me report bugs and that Webkit gets the features it lacks when compared to KHTML.
As an aside, I think Webkit will be better in the long run. But it _definetely_ can not fully replace KHTML, just yet.
FWIW, btrfs is mainly sponsored by Oracle...
Not sure what they plan with Linux, but if the _really_ cared, they would simply release ZFS under the GPL instead of blubbering about their IP and CDDL.
As of late, most news relating to btrfs seems to point out problems, but maybe that is simply the sign of maturing. Having been bitten by OCFS2 a _lot_, I will step slowly with Oracle-based FS.
1) Battery is a major concern. Dedicated GPS units run on AA and you can get those anywhere.
2) The "assisted" GPS in cell phones sucks. Dedicated GPS have good antennas.
Every time you restart your phone, kill all applications. Every time you disconnect the charger, kill all applications.
> and I do it in the right / slow lane, as well
No problem, then. Carry on :)
Unless you actually know your car and the delta that is applied. That, or you simply have a GPS which is not connected to the on-board computer and thus doesn't cheat you.
I don't think the signs mean "you must display the exact same number on your speed gauge", but "this is the max speed, measured from the outside".
Tell that to Australians. If anything, small, smart plants with renewable work _better_ for sparsely populated areas.
And even if that were not the case, even supplying LA etc would help a lot.
Either way, GP is right.
> An ad hominem attack would imply that because you drive poorly, your argument is invalid, such as saying "people like you can't possibly know anything about safe driving". Rather, that was just a subtle insult.
True. I thought it was just any personal attack during an argument.
> Regardless of level, I've never seen a school that wasn't active all year long in some form.
And you know all schools? I have not seen a school in which any pupil was during the holidays. Never, ever.
> Hence my comment regarding a mile-high wall. It's the only way to be even slightly certain nobody's there.
Or a wide schoolground covered with grass, easily viewable completely.
> The ones you may not have seen because you were speeding. Going 166% of the legal speed means your available time to see, recognize, and react to a condition is reduced by 40%. That means you missed 40% of the sensory observations available at that time. If those observations had indicated there were children present... ...well I guess that'd just be too bad, wouldn't it? Those 10 seconds were important!
So, I missed 40% of nothing? Also, please factor in the average driver, who is not attentive, and me, who is attentive, especially in the situation above. What percentage does that come to? If someone is texting, I would say the difference would be about 100%.
Anyway, the point of missing details such as children is moot. There were none. You are welcome to come visit me and have a look for yourself. If you don't want to do that you will have to take my word for it. Or not. Both is fine.
> Actually, I equate speed with stopping distance.
Agreed. Though factors like better brakes etc matter a _lot_.
> also,as a general statement, people who drive at excessive speed in inappropriate places tend to be the same people who are less attentive drivers.
Maybe, maybe not. From my personal experience those are either the really bad & inattentive drivers or the really good & controlled ones.
Or common sense.
Agree to disagree and all that.
> There is no end. I just happen to follow road rules - annoys the wife which is an added bonus and possibly an end in itself there.
Not married yet, but you might think about marriage counseling. Seriously.
> I guess I don't see any point in not following them. I don't drive enough for it to make a difference if I get everywhere 5-10km/h faster.
Which also makes you less save while driving (generally speaking) as you lack experience. Which in turn, gives you less base for your arguments imo.
> And figure (somewhat naively and foolishly probably given revenue production is a likely motivation) that the rules were made up by people more knowledgabe than me in order to make things better for everyone.
I know quite a few people in official positions. Public entities lack the need to be cooperative and it shows in both internal culture and selection of employees.
> Of course in practice driving at the speed level on the freeway/highway is likely more dangerous than going 10 over and not being overtaken every few seconds.
Apples and oranges. Speed in and as of itself is not dangerous; it depends on context. How fast is Earth revolving around itself? Around the sun? The sun around the center of our galaxy? Our galaxy hurtling towards whatever?
The allowed speed on normal out-of-town speeds is 100 km/h in Germany. Passing a car that drives in the other direction, you have 20 or 40 cm distance between the mirrors, tops. Yet, it is safe to pass each other at a relative speed of 200 km/h with _no_ protection whatsoever.
Driving over a deep pothole at 50 km/h can break stuff and send you into the nearest wall.
Context, context, context.
> But I like relaxing in the slow lane :)
As long as you stay in the slow lane, that is more than fine. Really, it is. Unfortunately, most people seem to think the right lane is poisonous and they will die if driving on it.
Congratulations on your self-control.
But you are aware that a car always shows too much speed? I.e. if you set it a mile below, you will prolly end up driving about 6-7 miles below the limit. If you are blocking others behind you by doing that, that is wrong as well. Obviously, if you live in ten-lane-country, that is not a concern.
You are late. Read the rest of the shit-storm I caused before posting :)
> Let's say that one time out of million, you fatally hit a kid in the school zone. That's assuming a 50% fatality rate, and a 1-in-500,000 chance of collision. Assuming it's a secondary school, that puts the kid at about 18 years old. Also assuming an average life span, you just cost that person 50 years of life.
Assuming is fine and dandy, but let me repeat what I said again and again:
1) basic school
2) nothing like summer school, no playground
3) perfect view over all the schoolground, no parked cars to hide behind
4) well-kept car with extremely aggressive brakes and new tires
5) attentive driver, especially since he goes past a school; no matter what i wrote above
All that, plus I still maintain someone doing 30 and not paying attention is a _lot_ more dangerous. Yet, I doubt that half the effort that various people extended just now would have been extended to someone who does 30 and talks on his cellphone.
> But the issue with your original statement is that the context that matters is the one of the policeman watching you.
Not really. If I get a ticket because I broke a rule, that is an accepted risk. It does not factor into my decisions (unless some policeman is directly behind me)
> I can't imagine how you'd argue the ticket simply by saying, "I know it's not the right speed limit!"
I wouldn't. My decision, my risk, my consequences. No weaseling out.
> You're getting very defensive when all I am doing is being inquisitive in a non-malicious manner.
True, apologies. It's just that while you are in _one_ thread, I got about 20 replies by now which gets tiring.
> I'm merely trying to make sure that you realize the implications of speeding in a school zone when there may or may not be kids present.
Yes. As noted elsewhere there were none. Yes, I am sure and yes, I could be sure quite easily.
> Rule of thumb should be as long as that sign is flashing you should slow down.
Flashing? There is a sign that says "30" in a red circle and "mo-fr 0700-1500" below that.
> Don't chance the life of another just because you are in a hurry. It's irresponsible.
You chance the life of others every time you leave the house. And you do the same by not leaving. Ignoring outliers, I did not.
> I'm just not that kind of asshole.
Ad hominem, but OK.
> I seem to distinctly remember students visiting my high school during breaks for school meetings, extra-curricular school activities, and simply meeting friends.
High school != basic school.
> Of course, as you said, the situation might have justified it. Maybe the roughly 10 seconds you saved was worth sacrificing the safety of children.
Again: What children? There were none. If you read the other postings instead of thinking up sneaky ways to feel superior, you would know why. And yes, that was my own sneaky way to get back to you. You're welcome ;)
If everything above is true, accept my apologies, you are clearly more self-controlled than me. One might wonder to what end, but that is a different matter.
> Sorry for the double post, but I envy you and your Autobahn.
Yes, it's one of the nicer things about Germany. And the option to go fast if you need/want to is nice. Also, it helps in curbing street races and the like. What's the point when you can just drive up and down on a highway, legally?
> Freeways can get so irritating in the US.
Agreed. My somewhat limited experience across the USA and Canada can be summarized as sssslllllllooooooowwwwwwww.
> What about camp or daycare? The elementary schools in the district also have daycare and summer classes. They also have classes for the mentally handicapped over the summer.
OK, can we just say that I know my local area better than you? I know, this might stretch things very far as this is /., but things are starting to get ridiculous.
> German road engineering is typically very good. I'm a bit sceptical that they have a 30km/h school zone in the middle of an otherwise 100km/h open road, that doesn't at least step down through an 80km/h zone first.
100 km/h for a few kilometers, 30 km/h for about 50 meters, 50 km/h after that. Yes, it sucks. And yes, they changed it in the meantime though I think they step down to 70 km/h not 80 km/h before the city sign.
> Yes. This is especially true if the school is the one responsible for putting the signs up and down, because they might know something about what's happening there that you don't, and hence have had a good reason for putting the signs up.
They are not. It's the city's responsibility. Related & near, but not the same. As stated in other posts on this minor shitstorm I caused there was nothing else going on.
> There are times and places to drive fast. Urban areas are most definitely not one of them.
I would argue that someone in a modern car with good brakes, good tires, excellent view over all the area and attentive at 50 km/h is saver for everyone involved than someone who is careless, can't drive his crap car and goes 30 km/h. But tbh, I don't want to drag this on endlessly.
My point was "what makes you so special that you can ignore speed signs?" Let's not take eternity, let's take the last year. Not a single speeding incident, not even 1 km/h too much for one second? Not counting outside circumstances or "this guy has one arm less, we need to get to the hospital NOW" and other extremes, of course.
If you had even one of those incidents, and you most likely did, it's not special. And the "special" was the word I was referring to.
> Selectively ignoring roadsigns is treacherous and irresponsible habit to get into.
Habit? I chose one specific sign with specific reasons. Yes, I am not omniscient, but I still know a bit about what happens around me.
Decelerating from 100 km/h to 30 km/h just to accelerate to 50 km/h 50 meters later seems to be wasteful, at best.