> Where in the OP, exactly, did he say that if this couldn't be used for dental care he would burn the world's supply?
Assuming this is not the weakest trolling I have seen in 2009, who is talking about using up any theoretical supply? Sea sponges need clean water, but if you provide that, you can grow _lots_ of them if you want to.
Bacteria are the most adaptable and resilent form of life on earth. They adapt. Faster than _anything else_. You use something to kill them which gentle enough to simply kill off all life, i.e. is safe to use on humans, and you train them to survive it in the long term. This is why using those last-resort measures which pop up way too seldom on everyday stuff is, in the literal sense, killing other people down the road.
And don't get me started on using antibiotics against a common flu or something. And _those_ people are the ones who are most likely to stop taking the tablets as soon as they feel better, not until the packet runs out. If you wonder why _that_ is a bad thing, read the other threads.
I hope you are kidding. If you are not, you are part of the problem. You accept that people will die because there is no treatment for X because you are too lazy to brush for two minutes? Way to go, buddy.
You are right, this would not be tolerated, over here.
Another thing which, thankfully, is different in Europe is that we don't put disinfectants into deodorants(!) and other crap. Way to build resistant strains. Hopefully, you keep them over there;)
> but won't work well for an independent family doctor or suburban pharmacy
No idea about other countries, but German pharmacies get a delivery at least three times a day. Stockpiles of important stuff are distributed across the country. You will get anything _important_ within hours if you need to. And that is without driving to a hospital or something.
Government regulation in important infrastructure is a good thing.
I know where you are coming from and I agree that the problem exists. Been there, it bit me, too. Hopefully, I never bit anyone else!
The thing is that, as of right now, we do not have a better system. Hopefully, we will come up with one at some point, but you need to draw the line _somewhere_. And no matter what system we come up with, there will always be situations in which the existing checks and balances fail.
PS: If those other books are better references, wouldn't it have been possible to let others know the ISBNs with which they head to a library or something?
They promised everyone who pre-ordered a profanity pack to replace the standard sounds with. But as they systematically kept all their promises up to now, I am not exactly worried;)
Way too passive unless you did _tell_ them about that fact in advance. I emailed them about it and made them promise. _Then_, I pre-ordered (they needed money back then, they have enough, now).
I love the game, but it's not lengthy. Neither is Crayon Physics. You can beat both in a few hours, but that's not the point. They are fun, simple as that.
I for one am glad I emailed them, making them promise to support Linux at _some_ point and then pre-ordering early in the game to make sure they had enough food to get this thing out the door. The last piece of software before WoG which I paid for was Vim. SuSE 8.1 before that. So yah..;)
> Python and Ruby have the functionality of Perl without the maintenance issues inherent in a language which is really a hodge-podge of ancient unix idioms.
It seems to me that Perl 5 (and thus the syntax) has lived a lot longer than Python 2. I won't drag out sh scripts which are still running after a decade or two as that would be unfair;)
Do what Vim and irssi do. Banish non-core stuff into modules/plugins/whatever. Not quite sure how feasible this is for a FS though Reiser4 had that as one of its design decissions.
The certification, EAL4+, is the same for both. Linux is still better in my and in a lot of other people's opinion. Yet, I did not comment on that, my point was entirely different.
My point is that they _were_ aware (or next to 100% certain) that there would be distant objects as the current theory says that we can not see the edge of the known universe in any direction. Everything else (barring technical defects, etc) would be an even greater discovery.
And that is without the facts (no, I did not verify them myself) ceoyoyo gave us.
You must stress that being able to _read_ the code is not the same as being able to _write to the released codebase_. This is an assumption I have encountered again and again and again.
The evil thing is, people don't ask about this, they assume it's fact and that's that.
I like how you instantly assume that OP is located in the USA. And how easily I can discern this by you using the term "our nation". Something you might want to think about.
Knowing how to make car analogies is not a substitute for knowing what torque is. Or gear boxes. Or large tires with good traction. Or heavy weight or the earth mover. Or..;)
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> Where in the OP, exactly, did he say that if this couldn't be used for dental care he would burn the world's supply?
Assuming this is not the weakest trolling I have seen in 2009, who is talking about using up any theoretical supply? Sea sponges need clean water, but if you provide that, you can grow _lots_ of them if you want to.
Bacteria are the most adaptable and resilent form of life on earth. They adapt. Faster than _anything else_. You use something to kill them which gentle enough to simply kill off all life, i.e. is safe to use on humans, and you train them to survive it in the long term. This is why using those last-resort measures which pop up way too seldom on everyday stuff is, in the literal sense, killing other people down the road.
And don't get me started on using antibiotics against a common flu or something. And _those_ people are the ones who are most likely to stop taking the tablets as soon as they feel better, not until the packet runs out. If you wonder why _that_ is a bad thing, read the other threads.
I hope you are kidding. If you are not, you are part of the problem. You accept that people will die because there is no treatment for X because you are too lazy to brush for two minutes? Way to go, buddy.
And yes, _I_ am being serious.
You are right, this would not be tolerated, over here.
Another thing which, thankfully, is different in Europe is that we don't put disinfectants into deodorants(!) and other crap. Way to build resistant strains. Hopefully, you keep them over there ;)
> but won't work well for an independent family doctor or suburban pharmacy
No idea about other countries, but German pharmacies get a delivery at least three times a day. Stockpiles of important stuff are distributed across the country. You will get anything _important_ within hours if you need to. And that is without driving to a hospital or something.
Government regulation in important infrastructure is a good thing.
I know where you are coming from and I agree that the problem exists. Been there, it bit me, too. Hopefully, I never bit anyone else!
The thing is that, as of right now, we do not have a better system. Hopefully, we will come up with one at some point, but you need to draw the line _somewhere_. And no matter what system we come up with, there will always be situations in which the existing checks and balances fail.
PS: If those other books are better references, wouldn't it have been possible to let others know the ISBNs with which they head to a library or something?
> Even the slashdot post on the new Debian has more content that a MS press release.
Thanks :)
Richard
PS: I was the one who wrote it, even though Alex submitted it
Point your sources to oldstable if you want to keep etch :)
Or point them to etch, which will work as well.
The full release announcement tells people to use aptitude instead of apt-get as there might be issues in some situations when using apt-get.
At least you have something to be a prick about, eh?
(Sorry for going ad hominem, but some people just deserve it)
They promised everyone who pre-ordered a profanity pack to replace the standard sounds with. But as they systematically kept all their promises up to now, I am not exactly worried ;)
Way too passive unless you did _tell_ them about that fact in advance. I emailed them about it and made them promise. _Then_, I pre-ordered (they needed money back then, they have enough, now).
I love the game, but it's not lengthy. Neither is Crayon Physics. You can beat both in a few hours, but that's not the point. They are fun, simple as that.
I for one am glad I emailed them, making them promise to support Linux at _some_ point and then pre-ordering early in the game to make sure they had enough food to get this thing out the door. The last piece of software before WoG which I paid for was Vim. SuSE 8.1 before that. So yah.. ;)
Maybe not a web server, but there are ftp and irc clients written in zsh. Having a native ztcp helps, of course :)
> Python and Ruby have the functionality of Perl without the maintenance issues inherent in a language which is really a hodge-podge of ancient unix idioms.
It seems to me that Perl 5 (and thus the syntax) has lived a lot longer than Python 2. I won't drag out sh scripts which are still running after a decade or two as that would be unfair ;)
Do what Vim and irssi do. Banish non-core stuff into modules/plugins/whatever. Not quite sure how feasible this is for a FS though Reiser4 had that as one of its design decissions.
> Try fleshing out the analogy so it actually makes sense next time.
Thanks for this. I was thinking pretty much the same thing :)
> I don't know if 22675 is an active payload that still has power but Iridium33 certainly _had_ the capability of moving.
Fixed that for you.
The certification, EAL4+, is the same for both. Linux is still better in my and in a lot of other people's opinion.
Yet, I did not comment on that, my point was entirely different.
My point is that they _were_ aware (or next to 100% certain) that there would be distant objects as the current theory says that we can not see the edge of the known universe in any direction. Everything else (barring technical defects, etc) would be an even greater discovery.
And that is without the facts (no, I did not verify them myself) ceoyoyo gave us.
You must stress that being able to _read_ the code is not the same as being able to _write to the released codebase_. This is an assumption I have encountered again and again and again.
The evil thing is, people don't ask about this, they assume it's fact and that's that.
"We" need to make sure this myth dies.
I like how you instantly assume that OP is located in the USA. And how easily I can discern this by you using the term "our nation". Something you might want to think about.
> Can your shell do this? ls |where {$_.Length -gt 2000}|format-table Name, Length
I am sure mine can do a lot which yours can not, but I am always willing to try out new stuff.
zsh here. You?
ceoyoyo did the fact-based demolition of your arguments, let me do the logical one.
Assuming they knew nothing about the field of sky and it was just black to everyone, they would either have found stuff or not.
Found stuff: Well, neat. Let's look at it.
Found nothing: Whoah! Edge of the universe? _Huge_ interstellar/galactic structure? Black hole? In any case: amazing.
So they would have known they would find out neat stuff, anyway. And that is _without_ everything ceoyoyo told you in http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1121617&cid=26793955
Knowing how to make car analogies is not a substitute for knowing what torque is. Or gear boxes. Or large tires with good traction. Or heavy weight or the earth mover. Or.. ;)