As long as he only uses an informed and willing volunteer over a private connection would this demonstration really come under wiretapping laws? If they are going to send it through speakers infront of a crowd it would be more like an elaborate microphone than anything else.
As someone who bought said ram as part of a Dell in 2003 I can attest I would like to give Rambus a collective kick in the nuts for doing this. At the time coated me approx $600CDN for the upgrade from pc233 I believe? For 512mb. 7 years later 512mb pc 1066 is still $200. The performance was actually pretty good though giving approx 4gb/s performance, which at the time was pretty good. But that coupled with a Prescott I truly understood the value of building your own.
I agree. Lengthy battles over this much of a company are never good the stock will tank before he even gets out of the court room. No shareholder in their right mind would want stock in a company just about to be taken over by someone that's likely to cash out.
Coming up with a brain fart doesn't prove your point. The ISP is not some magical black hole that has ability to change server logs and make you invisible. Do you really think The Terrorists(TM) will be able to have some magical internet anonymity if they just pay a different ISP? I think the following link will clear this up for you....
That function was the part where they found the offending code. The comparison shows the similarities mentioned but outline actual code not just headers and data structures. In this case SCO takes a header file for an ELF lib which is an open format to execute binary files so it is pretty much guaranteed to be identical because if they wern't the files wouldn't be able to run;).
Nah it's a joke. The only thing highlighted were the function / subroutine definitions and not even across the board. Just because 2 programs have hooks or functions called "ReadX" does not mean there was any copying involved. They even highlighted include statements and data structures. It's almost like suing an author for starting with "Once upon a time". I guess they just figured no judge would be able to clue in on this kind of stuff and they would be able to sift through junk like this for decades. Hell they could use the same reasoning against pretty much any software and win if that is all the proof he needed. I guess Unix was truly the precursor to all the code ever written so Novell can truly say "all your base are belong to us".
Sure the idea is cute but in these applications I don't really see how it is going to make this a must have for most. If they came up with an application where the batteries could have been tube loaded by just jamming batteries in to the device that would be awesome for mag lights and such but when the entire compartment is already open most people are already trained to look at the orientation diagram. So if your average Jane consumer sees two similar devices but on costs more because they can put batteries upside down would they pay for that ability or take the difference in price and just buy more batteries? Overall I think it's really clever as a marketing move mainly because more and more various electronics will have some sort of Microsoft tag on it. Now mr average consumer will see Microsoft on everything and it will either give additional credibility to a poorly designed product or increased credibility to Microsoft on a well designed product, neither of which really have anything to do with Microsoft's contribution to the design, they just find a clever way of going along for the ride.
How the fuck can you talk about the consumer having an entitlement complex when almost every facet of the entertainment industry has gone over everyones heads making actual fucking laws that will put your fucking ass in jail if you don't pay what they tell you to pay? Shit buddy get the fuck out of here.
This is a lost cause. All you have is hear say. Like I said no one but the person involved and the police know what is going on at this point but sensationalizing his possible intentions and correlating that with some kind of perceived guilt isn't going to cut it for me anyway. Shouldn't have given this as much time as I have, sorry.
like publicly stating that you intend to do suspicious things in order to "test the security" of a meeting of very powerful, very influential world leaders, and doing everything in your power to do "suspicious things," and then claiming that you're shocked - SHOCKED -
Wow man do you have citations for any of that? I mean any of it at all? TFA only states what a friend of his at his security research group said. There is not one word or quote from the guy suspected. So as far as publicly saying and thing even a syllable and being able to derive any type of quote would be interesting. Please do tell.
As a Canadian this is "our" money and "our" summit. If the security was really up to the hype then as far as radio channels why wouldn't they be encrypted? Otherwise they could just take over CFRB or some other waste of radio waves and just give everyone a pocket radio save us millions. If this guy's intent (which no one really knows at this point anyway) was really just to scan some airwaves for unencrypted radio chatter and he found it wouldn't you as a Canadian citizen be just a bit unimpressed with what was going on? Hell any one with a HAM license would be a terrorist as well, maybe they have some weed n' feed and we should charge them too. It's all about accountability and our government is just as good as everywhere else as far as passing the buck goes, our media is somewhat less sensationalistic as others but they would be ripping on the police for months. Guess we will just have to wait and see how this turns out.
It's like challenging a bully more than anything else. The press over here has made a parade over this summit and have been talking for weeks now about security and showing clips of random people on the street being asked for drivers licenses (which by law they do not have to provide as well they might not even have one). Now someone is going to try to publicly out all this hoopla on twitter? That's going to get some kind of reaction. If they can spin it where they believe he is a terrorist of some sort (if he is or not) now having a cup of fertilizer can potentially "explode" and becomes a charge of explosives. Of course the article has almost no details and I myself have no more then they do so we have to wait and see. I have to admit watching all this security theater going on in the new if this guy only did end up sending some random police talk over twitter it would make them look just as stupid as charging him before the fact for explosives and having nothing but bad gas.
Just as a side note are there really anymore actual viruses in the wild? I remember back in the DOS days everything was in one directory and with barely any hash check algorythms implimented by the software spreading these puppies were common place. I could grab a copy of porntris which would more often than not be infected and it could infect word star, most DOS utilities, WordPerfect, etc,etc. Now you couldn't gather all the files and reg entries if you tried let alone actually install it on another computer. So who would really waste their time writing an actual virus anymore? Most of this stuff now a days are Trojans, backdoors, etc but not really any viruses. Or am I wrong?
I have never been involved in ISP grade networks and I pose a question to those more knowlegeable in the field. Have we hit the proverbial wall in terms of bandwidth? Is it possible (once last mile is satisifed) to have a somewhat reliable 1000mb low latency connection into every home or is this something that is limited not by finance but by some other principal? Lastly can any one provide an approximation where large ISP's are today in terms of backbone connections and maybe some hints of the major bottlenecks (aside from last mile) that is being encountered?
I think you need to take a minute to think this over. If I buy a subsidized phone from a carrier i have to sign a contract for x amount of months. After 6 of these months the phone is unlocked, how in your infanite wisdom do I not pay the cancellation fee? How does making the carrier unlocking the phone stop the carrier from changing the cancellation fee once / if this law comes into effect? Do you think if a handset costs $Y they would not make you pay the difference upon cancelling the contract. Like common take you head... Oh wait what is that icon by your uid?
While I would like to see Facebook get a swift kick in the ass this is just going to fuck everything else up down the road. Facebook will get its day don't worry.
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As long as he only uses an informed and willing volunteer over a private connection would this demonstration really come under wiretapping laws? If they are going to send it through speakers infront of a crowd it would be more like an elaborate microphone than anything else.
As someone who bought said ram as part of a Dell in 2003 I can attest I would like to give Rambus a collective kick in the nuts for doing this. At the time coated me approx $600CDN for the upgrade from pc233 I believe? For 512mb. 7 years later 512mb pc 1066 is still $200. The performance was actually pretty good though giving approx 4gb/s performance, which at the time was pretty good. But that coupled with a Prescott I truly understood the value of building your own.
Kinda hit close to home huh?
I agree. Lengthy battles over this much of a company are never good the stock will tank before he even gets out of the court room. No shareholder in their right mind would want stock in a company just about to be taken over by someone that's likely to cash out.
Coming up with a brain fart doesn't prove your point. The ISP is not some magical black hole that has ability to change server logs and make you invisible. Do you really think The Terrorists(TM) will be able to have some magical internet anonymity if they just pay a different ISP? I think the following link will clear this up for you....
The invisible internet
You have just brought trolling to an entirely new level, my hat is off to you sir.
That function was the part where they found the offending code. The comparison shows the similarities mentioned but outline actual code not just headers and data structures. In this case SCO takes a header file for an ELF lib which is an open format to execute binary files so it is pretty much guaranteed to be identical because if they wern't the files wouldn't be able to run ;).
Nah it's a joke. The only thing highlighted were the function / subroutine definitions and not even across the board. Just because 2 programs have hooks or functions called "ReadX" does not mean there was any copying involved. They even highlighted include statements and data structures. It's almost like suing an author for starting with "Once upon a time". I guess they just figured no judge would be able to clue in on this kind of stuff and they would be able to sift through junk like this for decades. Hell they could use the same reasoning against pretty much any software and win if that is all the proof he needed. I guess Unix was truly the precursor to all the code ever written so Novell can truly say "all your base are belong to us".
I wonder if they sense you before you even post?
Let me guess, she lives out of town and can never make it to any parties cause she is working late.
Enough people paid michael Moore for his movies...
Actually it doesn't blow anything out of the water till you actually do it ;)
Sure the idea is cute but in these applications I don't really see how it is going to make this a must have for most. If they came up with an application where the batteries could have been tube loaded by just jamming batteries in to the device that would be awesome for mag lights and such but when the entire compartment is already open most people are already trained to look at the orientation diagram. So if your average Jane consumer sees two similar devices but on costs more because they can put batteries upside down would they pay for that ability or take the difference in price and just buy more batteries? Overall I think it's really clever as a marketing move mainly because more and more various electronics will have some sort of Microsoft tag on it. Now mr average consumer will see Microsoft on everything and it will either give additional credibility to a poorly designed product or increased credibility to Microsoft on a well designed product, neither of which really have anything to do with Microsoft's contribution to the design, they just find a clever way of going along for the ride.
How the fuck can you talk about the consumer having an entitlement complex when almost every facet of the entertainment industry has gone over everyones heads making actual fucking laws that will put your fucking ass in jail if you don't pay what they tell you to pay? Shit buddy get the fuck out of here.
This is a lost cause. All you have is hear say. Like I said no one but the person involved and the police know what is going on at this point but sensationalizing his possible intentions and correlating that with some kind of perceived guilt isn't going to cut it for me anyway. Shouldn't have given this as much time as I have, sorry.
Wow man do you have citations for any of that? I mean any of it at all? TFA only states what a friend of his at his security research group said. There is not one word or quote from the guy suspected. So as far as publicly saying and thing even a syllable and being able to derive any type of quote would be interesting. Please do tell.
As a Canadian this is "our" money and "our" summit. If the security was really up to the hype then as far as radio channels why wouldn't they be encrypted? Otherwise they could just take over CFRB or some other waste of radio waves and just give everyone a pocket radio save us millions. If this guy's intent (which no one really knows at this point anyway) was really just to scan some airwaves for unencrypted radio chatter and he found it wouldn't you as a Canadian citizen be just a bit unimpressed with what was going on? Hell any one with a HAM license would be a terrorist as well, maybe they have some weed n' feed and we should charge them too. It's all about accountability and our government is just as good as everywhere else as far as passing the buck goes, our media is somewhat less sensationalistic as others but they would be ripping on the police for months. Guess we will just have to wait and see how this turns out.
It's like challenging a bully more than anything else. The press over here has made a parade over this summit and have been talking for weeks now about security and showing clips of random people on the street being asked for drivers licenses (which by law they do not have to provide as well they might not even have one). Now someone is going to try to publicly out all this hoopla on twitter? That's going to get some kind of reaction. If they can spin it where they believe he is a terrorist of some sort (if he is or not) now having a cup of fertilizer can potentially "explode" and becomes a charge of explosives. Of course the article has almost no details and I myself have no more then they do so we have to wait and see. I have to admit watching all this security theater going on in the new if this guy only did end up sending some random police talk over twitter it would make them look just as stupid as charging him before the fact for explosives and having nothing but bad gas.
I just figured they needed a crayon picture of a bomb with a telephone number and address. Never figured they could do anything beyond that.
Just as a side note are there really anymore actual viruses in the wild? I remember back in the DOS days everything was in one directory and with barely any hash check algorythms implimented by the software spreading these puppies were common place. I could grab a copy of porntris which would more often than not be infected and it could infect word star, most DOS utilities, WordPerfect, etc,etc. Now you couldn't gather all the files and reg entries if you tried let alone actually install it on another computer. So who would really waste their time writing an actual virus anymore? Most of this stuff now a days are Trojans, backdoors, etc but not really any viruses. Or am I wrong?
I have never been involved in ISP grade networks and I pose a question to those more knowlegeable in the field. Have we hit the proverbial wall in terms of bandwidth? Is it possible (once last mile is satisifed) to have a somewhat reliable 1000mb low latency connection into every home or is this something that is limited not by finance but by some other principal? Lastly can any one provide an approximation where large ISP's are today in terms of backbone connections and maybe some hints of the major bottlenecks (aside from last mile) that is being encountered?
It is funny how that line has apparently become so thin it has almost dissapeared.
I think you need to take a minute to think this over. If I buy a subsidized phone from a carrier i have to sign a contract for x amount of months. After 6 of these months the phone is unlocked, how in your infanite wisdom do I not pay the cancellation fee? How does making the carrier unlocking the phone stop the carrier from changing the cancellation fee once / if this law comes into effect? Do you think if a handset costs $Y they would not make you pay the difference upon cancelling the contract. Like common take you head... Oh wait what is that icon by your uid?
I know that's a joke but it's kind of like getting charged for J walking on your way to rob a bank.
While I would like to see Facebook get a swift kick in the ass this is just going to fuck everything else up down the road. Facebook will get its day don't worry.