I'd be amazed if there werent terms like Sun's community liscence, to prevent it working well with other OS's, and to prevent bits being borrowed from WinCE by Linux and the BSD's.
Yes, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt as to whether there'd be anything worth taking:)
Its just what the dir name said "1999-10-18-12-M11":)
I think its the target milestone that this nightly build is aiming at, please dont hurt me, I really like moz, its quick and has a nifty interface, besides, no other decent graphical browsers work at all for me.
I realise that;) M10 didnt have all the functionality I wanted, (proxys were still odd) whereas M11 rocks. Its stable enough. My initial post (the one that died, heh) was amazement at the rate of progress, the post that made it to slashdot (twice for some reason:/) was meant to be ironic.
I meant to inform people about the rate of progress, and that the nightly builds are useable, but only for the strong of heart:)
The funny thing is, I wrote a long rant, about how each nightly build has ever increasing usability, and as a joke I was going to put *crash* at the end, and it crashed:) Anyway, M11 nightly builds went from barely usable (couldnt http-post) to http-post working, but quitting when you press any key:), to nice and mostly usable (crashing when you write amusing/. posts) I wont push my luck this time...
The funny thing is, I wrote a long rant, about how each nightly build has ever increasing usability, and as a joke I was going to put *crash* at the end, and it crashed:)
Anyway, M11 nightly builds went from barely usable (couldnt http-post) to http-post working, but quitting when you press any key:), to nice and mostly usable (crashing when you write amusing/. posts)
At some level, a person advising the republicans has ignored the RFC. I'd expect this has happened at a fairly high level, and I agree it should be a.org, something like gop.republicans.org. (although republicans.org is probably taken by someone for some stupid irc vanity host.)
haha, if I'd been there I'd have taken a debian gold cd (or something similar) and showed em it. And if they'd said it was legal I'd have acted stupid (I have a natural advantage, heh), and if they said it was illegal I'd have pulled out a printed copy of the GPL and confused em with it.
Wonder if they'd give me a copy of win9x in exchange, hardly a fair trade.
It seems like it may be a reasonable protocol, we should judge it on its merits. This worries me: "This document is an Internet-Draft and is in full conformance with all provisions of Section 10 of RFC2026 except that the right to produce derivative works is not granted." Whats the point of a RFC without this? I dont suppose theres much chance of getting em to change their minds:/ It being completely based on http-post, and an xml dataformat is, well, odd. It kinda seems innovative, but we could do all this stuff anyway. Being based on http is very good on the implementation process, firewalls already understand it etc. I'm a bit concerned about performance, and also I've had problems in the past with stream i/o over http, especially when a poxy proxy gets in the way. So far its hardly a replacement for corba though, imo.
They make GE plants to lock you into their own products like the oilseed rape that resists their 'roundup' weedkiller, encouraging farmers to use more of the chemical. Compare with other GE developments, such as rice which extracts vital minerals more effectively, and a birch tree which can be changed into paper without as much causitic chemical. I've retyped this about 3 times because mozilla keeps crashing, and NS is bus erroring. GRR.
I wonder if they'll make the browser part of the interface, or the interface part of the browser. I'd prefer the first, but I can see that running everything through a nice themeable browser would be very attractive for a comsumer device.
Doing my Arthur C Clark bit, I'd expect this to be actually on sale mid 2000, and given that intel and nokia are pushing it, it may be sucessful.
So what do I type to install, say, StarOffice? WordPerfect? RailRoad Tycoon or Call to Power? Lets try Quake 3? One of the new DBMS systems like SyBase? Realaudio? apt isn't looking so hot is it
apt-get install staroffice3 downloads a wrapper script that uses the standard staroffice commercial package and installs it in a debian compliant way. This is done with the Quake* products too.
I think that the Loki installer has to integrate into the sytem or it will freak out the distro quite annoyingly.
The install merely has to look for clues as to the distro:
dpkg, rpm etc.
Debian packages are easy to build automatically, you simply put your data file in a tar.gz and a few control files in control.tar.gz and combine the two into an ar archive. (And tweak the archive for some bizzare reason)
To build an RPM I think you have to use rpm, by passing it a.spec.
I have a self extracting archive format that spawns a control script that converts in into the appropriate package format then attempts to install itself. Grab it here. I only wrote it out of idle curiousity, but I think the principles involved could probably be wrapped into Loki's installer.
If it is not exactly normal to the average ecliptic it will get pulled in to the average ecliptic plane. This will of course take and infinite amout of time. (This post is after working it out on the back of an envelope as is all good physics)
A biologist in africa is trying to recreate the quagga, a horse-like zebra (or a zebra like horse), by taking zebra's with some of the qualities of the quagga and interbreeding them.
This has obviously been possible for centuries, but he also has the benefit of being able to compare the original quagga DNA with his current generation.
I dont think it's going to be fast tho, iirc he's set up a foundation to carry on his work.
Nope, HAL has already been built in the '2001' reality, as he spent 5 (?) years learning how to run a space ship, reading how to kill people on the 'net and singing 'Mary has a little lamb'.
So unless he's been built secretly in this reality its too late.
Slashdot Mirror
It wont be open source like we know and love.
:)
I'd be amazed if there werent terms like Sun's community liscence, to prevent it working well with other OS's, and to prevent bits being borrowed from WinCE by Linux and the BSD's.
Yes, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt as to whether there'd be anything worth taking
Epoc forever!
Its just what the dir name said "1999-10-18-12-M11" :)
I think its the target milestone that this nightly build is aiming at, please dont hurt me, I really like moz, its quick and has a nifty interface, besides, no other decent graphical browsers work at all for me.
I realise that ;) :/) was meant to be ironic.
:)
M10 didnt have all the functionality I wanted, (proxys were still odd) whereas M11 rocks. Its stable enough. My initial post (the one that died, heh) was amazement at the rate of progress, the post that made it to slashdot (twice for some reason
I meant to inform people about the rate of progress, and that the nightly builds are useable, but only for the strong of heart
The funny thing is, I wrote a long rant, about how each nightly build has ever increasing usability, and as a joke I was going to put *crash* at the end, and it crashed :) :), to nice and mostly usable (crashing when you write amusing /. posts)
Anyway, M11 nightly builds went from barely usable (couldnt http-post) to http-post working, but quitting when you press any key
I wont push my luck this time...
The funny thing is, I wrote a long rant, about how each nightly build has ever increasing usability, and as a joke I was going to put *crash* at the end, and it crashed :)
:), to nice and mostly usable (crashing when you write amusing /. posts)
Anyway, M11 nightly builds went from barely usable (couldnt http-post) to http-post working, but quitting when you press any key
I wont push my luck this time...
trebly overloaded :)
/
RMS -> Root Mean Square (in electronics)
root->
mean-> mean to anyone not doing Free Software
square-> either mean*mean or geek, depending on your POV
At some level, a person advising the republicans has ignored the RFC. I'd expect this has happened at a fairly high level, and I agree it should be a .org, something like gop.republicans.org. (although republicans.org is probably taken by someone for some stupid irc vanity host.)
haha, if I'd been there I'd have taken a debian gold cd (or something similar) and showed em it. And if they'd said it was legal I'd have acted stupid (I have a natural advantage, heh), and if they said it was illegal I'd have pulled out a printed copy of the GPL and confused em with it.
Wonder if they'd give me a copy of win9x in exchange, hardly a fair trade.
It seems like it may be a reasonable protocol, we should judge it on its merits. :/
This worries me: "This document is an Internet-Draft and is in full conformance with all provisions of Section 10 of RFC2026 except that the right to produce derivative works is not granted." Whats the point of a RFC without this? I dont suppose theres much chance of getting em to change their minds
It being completely based on http-post, and an xml dataformat is, well, odd. It kinda seems innovative, but we could do all this stuff anyway. Being based on http is very good on the implementation process, firewalls already understand it etc.
I'm a bit concerned about performance, and also I've had problems in the past with stream i/o over http, especially when a poxy proxy gets in the way.
So far its hardly a replacement for corba though, imo.
I just cat my source to the sound card!
/dev/audio
cat somelameproject/*.c >
***bzzt*crackle***
It doesnt last very long tho'
They make GE plants to lock you into their own products
like the oilseed rape that resists their 'roundup' weedkiller, encouraging farmers to use more of the chemical.
Compare with other GE developments, such as rice which extracts vital minerals more effectively, and a birch tree which can be changed into paper without as much causitic chemical.
I've retyped this about 3 times because mozilla keeps crashing, and NS is bus erroring. GRR.
I wonder if they'll make the browser part of the interface, or the interface part of the browser. I'd prefer the first, but I can see that running everything through a nice themeable browser would be very attractive for a comsumer device.
Doing my Arthur C Clark bit, I'd expect this to be actually on sale mid 2000, and given that intel and nokia are pushing it, it may be sucessful.
So what do I type to install, say, StarOffice? WordPerfect? RailRoad Tycoon or Call to Power? Lets try Quake 3? One of the new DBMS systems like SyBase? Realaudio? apt isn't looking so hot is it
apt-get install staroffice3 downloads a wrapper script that uses the standard staroffice commercial package and installs it in a debian compliant way. This is done with the Quake* products too.
I think that the Loki installer has to integrate into the sytem or it will freak out the distro quite annoyingly.
heh heh, classic case of post first, ask questions later
'Potentially lethal pun'
The install merely has to look for clues as to the distro:
.spec.
dpkg, rpm etc.
Debian packages are easy to build automatically, you simply put your data file in a tar.gz and a few control files in control.tar.gz and combine the two into an ar archive. (And tweak the archive for some bizzare reason)
To build an RPM I think you have to use rpm, by passing it a
I have a self extracting archive format that spawns a control script that converts in into the appropriate package format then attempts to install itself. Grab it here. I only wrote it out of idle curiousity, but I think the principles involved could probably be wrapped into Loki's installer.
Funny they dont accept cod. I'm sure Tux would love a bit of fresh fish.
Dockapps should work without WMaker, they just dont get pulled into the dock.
;)
I used some dockapps with wm2
If it is not exactly normal to the average ecliptic it will get pulled in to the average ecliptic plane. This will of course take and infinite amout of time. (This post is after working it out on the back of an envelope as is all good physics)
I believe the gravitational influence of the other planets would pull it into the ecliptic/the ecliptic up to it.
dude, the planets going the opposite direction to us... imagine how tangled the cable's gonna get, and dont mention the boosters... argh.
I dont know if p3nfsd works with the p5, but I cant see why it wouldnt.
;)
If all else fails, use the terminal emulator, or even run linux on the S5 itself
yes, W3c is bad enough :/
A biologist in africa is trying to recreate the quagga, a horse-like zebra (or a zebra like horse), by taking zebra's with some of the qualities of the quagga and interbreeding them.
This has obviously been possible for centuries, but he also has the benefit of being able to compare the original quagga DNA with his current generation.
I dont think it's going to be fast tho, iirc he's set up a foundation to carry on his work.
Nope, HAL has already been built in the '2001' reality, as he spent 5 (?) years learning how to run a space ship, reading how to kill people on the 'net and singing 'Mary has a little lamb'.
So unless he's been built secretly in this reality its too late.