I have all but given up on converting my parents. Heck, while I am transgressing to Linux, and I am still trying to get my parents to move away from *GROAN* Windows 98, and my sister away from *shudder* Apple. I have at least gotten my sister to use Opera at home on her Linux box (I gave it to her for free just because I visit and didn't wanna have to use those damned Apples).
I am just getting a bit irked by the Firefox crowd yelling "WE HAVE THIS GREAT FEATURE", like it is something new. Yet Opera has had those features since the last decade and Im not sure, but may have been the ones to create them.
Secondly they say Opera isn't free, which isn't COMPLETELY true. I have been using for like 7 years and haven't paid a dime yet (I bet they don't like that fact). There are free versions you can use indefinitely.
YEAH! If I recall it was also Mandrake 10 that I installed over the summer on my sisters machine. here in January I am going to give Gentoo a shot on one of my home machines, and see how that works. Waiting for highspeed (to install) though, which starts in January.
I found it was due a very odd selection for a font and its size that was unlike all the other fonts for the program. It didn't seem in sync with all the other font selections for the program. I forget which though because I installed it over the summer.
Why would it miss? If your saying the max load would make the rocket lack the required thrust to get to the station, I mean load it up with the most allowed to reach station. If you are referring to a navigation problem, please describe.
Just curious, but would that work? Space is mostly vacuum right? Doesn't a nuke work by atoms spliting and hitting other atoms? True some would hit the asteroid, but doesn't much of force come from atoms in atmosphere being split?
How do we know how much force a nuke would create by going off say a mile from an object in space?
Wouldn't hitting object directly produce much more of a splitting action akin to how a jewler hits a diamond with a chisel?
NO NO NO!!! KEEP THE EMAIL LINK OPTION! I love that. I find it is very fast to use, and easier that what you suggested. I know of many who use it (once they found out about it). I should point out that my friends hate that option because I send them hordes of email ^_^.
OOOOOH! I didn't know about the middle click trick. COOL!!! You see that is why I love opera. I keep finding out new tricks that make my life wonderful. It will take a while to get used to, but I will worship that trick you gave me.
Its (Opera) download size is in the teens (13.7?) when you download java as well. I don't suppose you know the download sizes of konquror (sp?), thunderbird, and firefox?
I LOVE how in a webpage you can right click and send and email with a link of the page to a friend. Also you can right click on a link on the page and send that link in an email to a friend as well.
Secondly, the right click is very useful for opening a link in a background page. For example I can read a webpage with ten links that look interesting, and QUICKLY right click on them and have them open in pages in the background while you are still reading the first page.
"Opera - Closed Source" True, it would be nice for them to Open it up.
"Opera - $$$" FALSE!!! Opera CAN be used for FREE if you want to. Ive used for YEARS and haven't paid a dime.
"Opera - Fast" Damn straight! They advertise as the fastest.
"Opera - Very large initial footprint" Very small compared to IE, and Opera ACTUALLY has awesome useful features and isn't striped down.
"Opera - Very long time between updates and releases" EXCUSE ME?!? Where have you been. They update quite regularly.
"Opera - Little setup required on first install" Actually I do quite a bit of setup after installing... OOPS!!! I mean customizing. Moving things around to where I like them, adding my favorite skins, and add/lose buttons that I like.
"Opera - Blocks popups" And its done it for years. Y E A R S!!! Also it has the option of blocking only unrequested popups, so the one required say, by your Bank still works. True, it needs the adblock stuff.
"Opera - Rendering problems on some pages" In the last few years I have found few if any rendering problems with Opera.
Oh yeah, Opera can continue from last time, right click open pages in background, and just plain ROCKS!
I also like how well they respond to problem in their forum pages, AND most importantly how they actively look through and discuss new ideas in the wishlist.
Also Opera is very customizable. First thing I do on download is move the window tabs to the bottom of the screen. Second I do is download a skin with custom buttons to fit my personal style. Skins can REALLY change the feel of a browser because they have different button sizes and styles. Secondly I add/lose buttons I don't want on the top of my broser.
Secondly, they have a good connection with the users on the forums. If there is something you want, on the forums post in the wishlist.
True, the voice thing doesn't appeal to me much, but I use many features in opera that ARE NOT found elsewhere. Heck, just the RIGHTCLICK->OPEN IN BACKGROUND and CONTINUE FROM LAST TIME are enough to make me passionate about opera.
Actually, Firefox is copycating many of the features Opera has had for YEARS! Opera also keeps getting better and better.
I always find it odd that many of the Slashdot users are big Firefox fans. I think if most put both on their computers, learned all their neat features, and tried them both for a month, they would find Opera the better package. Also, YES you can use it for free for as long as you want (you just get an ad at the top that is easily ignored (mine is a google relavent text ad))
T minus 4 till someone points out Opera is better than Firefox. T minus 6 till the bonehead at T minus 5 is corrected and told Opera can be had for FREE, and T minus 11 till someone points out that Opera isn't bloated, it just actually has useful features.
Ive used Opera for years without paying a dime. You don't have to pay if you don't want to, you just have a small ad at the top (which I have set to play google relavent text adds on mine). As for bloated, thats a bunch or crap. For a few megs I have a complete browser/email/chat package with wonderful features like popup blocker (WHICH ITS HAD FOR YEARS!).
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I have all but given up on converting my parents. Heck, while I am transgressing to Linux, and I am still trying to get my parents to move away from *GROAN* Windows 98, and my sister away from *shudder* Apple. I have at least gotten my sister to use Opera at home on her Linux box (I gave it to her for free just because I visit and didn't wanna have to use those damned Apples).
I am just getting a bit irked by the Firefox crowd yelling "WE HAVE THIS GREAT FEATURE", like it is something new. Yet Opera has had those features since the last decade and Im not sure, but may have been the ones to create them.
Secondly they say Opera isn't free, which isn't COMPLETELY true. I have been using for like 7 years and haven't paid a dime yet (I bet they don't like that fact). There are free versions you can use indefinitely.
YEAH! If I recall it was also Mandrake 10 that I installed over the summer on my sisters machine. here in January I am going to give Gentoo a shot on one of my home machines, and see how that works. Waiting for highspeed (to install) though, which starts in January.
I found it was due a very odd selection for a font and its size that was unlike all the other fonts for the program. It didn't seem in sync with all the other font selections for the program. I forget which though because I installed it over the summer.
What is the total Functionality of Konqueror, and what is the specific size of Konqueror if you have Linux+KDE (just for curiosity)?
Secondly, won't we need to download Java with Opera 8 as well?
I wonder if it should come with Shockwave as well. Or for that matter why Flash and Shockwave havn't been combined yet.
Do you think Shockwave is needed as well as Flash, and does Flash need to be downloaded by the other players (or is it included)?
Opera has been doing the email link and open page in backgroun for YEARS. Secondly it is so easy to use. Mozilla and Firefox are copycat'n the idea.
My grannie is dead, so if she came over I would be REALLY freaked out. Much less the picture frame.
Why would it miss? If your saying the max load would make the rocket lack the required thrust to get to the station, I mean load it up with the most allowed to reach station. If you are referring to a navigation problem, please describe.
Just curious, but would that work? Space is mostly vacuum right? Doesn't a nuke work by atoms spliting and hitting other atoms? True some would hit the asteroid, but doesn't much of force come from atoms in atmosphere being split?
How do we know how much force a nuke would create by going off say a mile from an object in space?
Wouldn't hitting object directly produce much more of a splitting action akin to how a jewler hits a diamond with a chisel?
Hey! Send up a Delta 4 Heavy packed to the hilt with food water and air. The probably wont have to resupply with that stuff for a few decades.
I AM NOW HOLDING MY BREATH!!! Pfhtt... ..... ..... ...ske... ...thud.
WHy would I want that if I cant even afford the 21" Flat Screen I so desire? I like my familys photos stuffed away where they can't annoy me.
NO NO NO!!! KEEP THE EMAIL LINK OPTION! I love that. I find it is very fast to use, and easier that what you suggested. I know of many who use it (once they found out about it). I should point out that my friends hate that option because I send them hordes of email ^_^.
OOOOOH! I didn't know about the middle click trick. COOL!!! You see that is why I love opera. I keep finding out new tricks that make my life wonderful. It will take a while to get used to, but I will worship that trick you gave me.
Its (Opera) download size is in the teens (13.7?) when you download java as well. I don't suppose you know the download sizes of konquror (sp?), thunderbird, and firefox?
Why not give me the full list so I can read up on them and consider what you said. Still, Im sticking to my Opera of which Ive loved for years.
I LOVE how in a webpage you can right click and send and email with a link of the page to a friend. Also you can right click on a link on the page and send that link in an email to a friend as well.
Secondly, the right click is very useful for opening a link in a background page. For example I can read a webpage with ten links that look interesting, and QUICKLY right click on them and have them open in pages in the background while you are still reading the first page.
Ive used Opera on linux and the only problem I had is the defalt text font/size needed to be changed. What problems did you have?
"Opera - Closed Source"
True, it would be nice for them to Open it up.
"Opera - $$$"
FALSE!!! Opera CAN be used for FREE if you want to. Ive used for YEARS and haven't paid a dime.
"Opera - Fast"
Damn straight! They advertise as the fastest.
"Opera - Very large initial footprint"
Very small compared to IE, and Opera ACTUALLY has awesome useful features and isn't striped down.
"Opera - Very long time between updates and releases"
EXCUSE ME?!? Where have you been. They update quite regularly.
"Opera - Little setup required on first install"
Actually I do quite a bit of setup after installing... OOPS!!! I mean customizing. Moving things around to where I like them, adding my favorite skins, and add/lose buttons that I like.
"Opera - Blocks popups"
And its done it for years. Y E A R S!!! Also it has the option of blocking only unrequested popups, so the one required say, by your Bank still works. True, it needs the adblock stuff.
"Opera - Rendering problems on some pages"
In the last few years I have found few if any rendering problems with Opera.
Oh yeah, Opera can continue from last time, right click open pages in background, and just plain ROCKS!
I also like how well they respond to problem in their forum pages, AND most importantly how they actively look through and discuss new ideas in the wishlist.
Also Opera is very customizable. First thing I do on download is move the window tabs to the bottom of the screen. Second I do is download a skin with custom buttons to fit my personal style. Skins can REALLY change the feel of a browser because they have different button sizes and styles. Secondly I add/lose buttons I don't want on the top of my broser.
Just for the record... I LOVE MY OPERA BROWSER!!!
ahem... WA-HOO!!! Thats for the Gmail support.
not sure view on the other thing.
Uh, dude? Opera has had popup blocking for YEARS! Y E A R S!!! Not really an issue there.
First, Opera CAN be used for FREE!
Secondly, they have a good connection with the users on the forums. If there is something you want, on the forums post in the wishlist.
True, the voice thing doesn't appeal to me much, but I use many features in opera that ARE NOT found elsewhere. Heck, just the RIGHTCLICK->OPEN IN BACKGROUND and CONTINUE FROM LAST TIME are enough to make me passionate about opera.
Actually, Firefox is copycating many of the features Opera has had for YEARS! Opera also keeps getting better and better.
I always find it odd that many of the Slashdot users are big Firefox fans. I think if most put both on their computers, learned all their neat features, and tried them both for a month, they would find Opera the better package. Also, YES you can use it for free for as long as you want (you just get an ad at the top that is easily ignored (mine is a google relavent text ad))
T minus 4 till someone points out Opera is better than Firefox. T minus 6 till the bonehead at T minus 5 is corrected and told Opera can be had for FREE, and T minus 11 till someone points out that Opera isn't bloated, it just actually has useful features.
Ive used Opera for years without paying a dime. You don't have to pay if you don't want to, you just have a small ad at the top (which I have set to play google relavent text adds on mine). As for bloated, thats a bunch or crap. For a few megs I have a complete browser/email/chat package with wonderful features like popup blocker (WHICH ITS HAD FOR YEARS!).