UnitedLinux didn't kill anything, and the LSB is still alive and most distros are at least 95% compliant (out of my ass, but I can say that with confidence because the LSB is the _BASE_, so its requirements aren't hard to achieve). The LSB doesn't mandate an X server, or most other things a desktop user would use.
AFAIK UnitedLinux was never a standard, it wasn't even a distro, it was only an idea that went no where.
Apt can be installed on a RPM based system (like my Fedora box). Apt is just a level on top of RPM or dbpkg (I think thats what Debians package manager is called, like most people I rarely directly use it).
"There is no "one size fits all" linux, and there never will be."
Of course there won't be, the LSB doesn't try and limit embeded developers (embeded device won't be standardized, since the end user will never go near the inner workings of the system). The LSB also doesn't require X, right now it really is the BASE standard. There are plans to add 'optional' parts of the standard, such as a desktop part.
"Most of the people who would want a standardized base like that probably use a BSD. This is not a criticism of anyone or any system, it's just an observation."
I don't use BSD, I use FC3, Gentoo, and Kubuntu. I want a standard like that, so that one day a desktop standard will come about which will make commercial software on Linux much easier (for the developers and end users).
You don't have to pay anything to be compliant, you only have to pay to be certified (and only commercial software will get certified, I doubt FOSS devs want a sticker that much).
Debian can be 100% compliant with the LSB using Alien. Just because RPMs aren't it's default package format doesn't limit any distro.
Also RPM can be install on Gentoo (so it would make sense to guess it can be installed on other non-RPM based distros as well).
I use Fedora Core 3, Gentoo, and Kubuntu (Ubuntu). I have to say that there is little difference between RPMs and Debs, mainly only thing is that deb's may ask you questions during the install (which may or may not be a good thing depending on your situation).
BTW: Many of Gentoo's core features are made possible by not using BINARIES, its nothing specific to RPM.
Well your not going to get equivalent fare of a plane ticket without starting somewhere.
Also Earth getting more and more populated and another planet thats largely unpopulated will look like a great spot to move to, to get away from the overcrowding.
Also the last time I looked at the statistics I thought it said the birth rate was around or under 2.2 children per family (2.2 is the amount it would take to sustain a population under normal conditions).
To 'fix' this all they have to do is release the source to anyone that requests it that it was distributed to, and admit that its based off of PearPC (maybe be like 'oh, THAT PearPC... we thought you meant the other one......... yeah...... its based off of their code......'
"Sure there is a version of Linux that has been secured by the NSA. Well whoopdeedo, how many people run it every day? answer almost none."
SELinux was added to Fedora with Fedora Core 2, with FC3 they now use 'targeted' policies (like theres a policy for what Apache can do, and other services to prevent what can happen even if there is a f'in massive security hole in it). SELinux isn't the only security project, most distributions are actively working on security as well, like Gentoo has the hardened patchset aimed at servers (and they are working to expand it to work fine with desktops).
Also since either version 1 or 2 of Fedora it has included prelink with the exec-shield making buffer overflows harder (still can overflow the buffer, but it makes it a hell of a lot harder to execute code with it).
Security is something thats very important to most Linux developers, thats why all the mentioned things exist. There are also ways that an admin can make their system even more secure, such as using Bastille Linux to harden the system even further.
Also I believe that it was found that it took in the months range for a *nix box to be compromised.
Do they claim they are Bosley Medical institute on their site? If not then its not fraud. Its not like they bought up Paypal.com and then used it to get people's login information claiming they are paypal.
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UnitedLinux didn't kill anything, and the LSB is still alive and most distros are at least 95% compliant (out of my ass, but I can say that with confidence because the LSB is the _BASE_, so its requirements aren't hard to achieve). The LSB doesn't mandate an X server, or most other things a desktop user would use.
AFAIK UnitedLinux was never a standard, it wasn't even a distro, it was only an idea that went no where.
"RPM-based package management. -I- prefer APT"
Apt4RPM? (which is what I use)
Apt can be installed on a RPM based system (like my Fedora box). Apt is just a level on top of RPM or dbpkg (I think thats what Debians package manager is called, like most people I rarely directly use it).
"There is no "one size fits all" linux, and there never will be."
Of course there won't be, the LSB doesn't try and limit embeded developers (embeded device won't be standardized, since the end user will never go near the inner workings of the system). The LSB also doesn't require X, right now it really is the BASE standard. There are plans to add 'optional' parts of the standard, such as a desktop part.
"Most of the people who would want a standardized base like that probably use a BSD. This is not a criticism of anyone or any system, it's just an observation."
I don't use BSD, I use FC3, Gentoo, and Kubuntu. I want a standard like that, so that one day a desktop standard will come about which will make commercial software on Linux much easier (for the developers and end users).
You don't have to pay anything to be compliant, you only have to pay to be certified (and only commercial software will get certified, I doubt FOSS devs want a sticker that much).
If its LSB version X runtime environment Y compliant, it will run on any distro that is LSB version X runtime environment Y compliant.
_ Runtime_Environment_IA32_20_PS.html
X being the version (currently 2.0) and Y being the architecture (like IA32/X86)
Here is the LSB 2.0 Runtime Environment IA32 standard: http://www.opengroup.org/lsb/cert/docs/PS_2.0/LSB
Debian can be 100% compliant with the LSB using Alien. Just because RPMs aren't it's default package format doesn't limit any distro.
Also RPM can be install on Gentoo (so it would make sense to guess it can be installed on other non-RPM based distros as well).
I use Fedora Core 3, Gentoo, and Kubuntu (Ubuntu). I have to say that there is little difference between RPMs and Debs, mainly only thing is that deb's may ask you questions during the install (which may or may not be a good thing depending on your situation).
BTW: Many of Gentoo's core features are made possible by not using BINARIES, its nothing specific to RPM.
Hes admitting that Unix is God.
Xorg and Xfree are an implementation of the X11 standard. (your thinking of XFree86, which stagnated for years and is now dead, confirmed by netcraft)
'edit' works for me in Windows XP.
Well your not going to get equivalent fare of a plane ticket without starting somewhere.
Also Earth getting more and more populated and another planet thats largely unpopulated will look like a great spot to move to, to get away from the overcrowding.
Also the last time I looked at the statistics I thought it said the birth rate was around or under 2.2 children per family (2.2 is the amount it would take to sustain a population under normal conditions).
First we have to make the cylons before they can attack us.
Actually that should be:
a) find a way to keep the sun from going nova and destroying earth
b) leave earth
Cowboy Bebop is awesome.
(there goes my good karma:'( )
I'm going to take on that challenge! I have a 3 ghz p4 in my laptop and its running at:
temperature: 48 C
Thats running really well considering about a month ago before dell repaired my laptop it was running at 60+
I believe the license Wikipedia's content is under is equivalent to the GPL (meaning you can sell it, modify, etc all you want).
They distributed beta copies. Thats how people were able to compare the strings.
To 'fix' this all they have to do is release the source to anyone that requests it that it was distributed to, and admit that its based off of PearPC (maybe be like 'oh, THAT PearPC... we thought you meant the other one......... yeah...... its based off of their code......'
"Sure there is a version of Linux that has been secured by the NSA. Well whoopdeedo, how many people run it every day? answer almost none."
SELinux was added to Fedora with Fedora Core 2, with FC3 they now use 'targeted' policies (like theres a policy for what Apache can do, and other services to prevent what can happen even if there is a f'in massive security hole in it). SELinux isn't the only security project, most distributions are actively working on security as well, like Gentoo has the hardened patchset aimed at servers (and they are working to expand it to work fine with desktops).
Also since either version 1 or 2 of Fedora it has included prelink with the exec-shield making buffer overflows harder (still can overflow the buffer, but it makes it a hell of a lot harder to execute code with it).
Security is something thats very important to most Linux developers, thats why all the mentioned things exist. There are also ways that an admin can make their system even more secure, such as using Bastille Linux to harden the system even further.
Also I believe that it was found that it took in the months range for a *nix box to be compromised.
Wow... you missed his point.
Our we the only two that realized that?
If your a GNOME user use Evolution, if a KDE user use Kontact (KMail). If you use a different desktop environment simply telnet into your mail server.
80>0rZ == box(es), as in computer(s)
Let me guess, are you a Microsoft employee?
Exactly!
They also directly link against it AFAIK.
Do they claim they are Bosley Medical institute on their site? If not then its not fraud. Its not like they bought up Paypal.com and then used it to get people's login information claiming they are paypal.