Yes, you're right. The emotion of the event sounds intense.
Scott Knaster must have that on tape too. Maybe he'll release it next, in a more complete form?
By the way, your post should be modded up as informative as it is a fascinating link. Maybe it would be if the moderators weren't simply interested in wasting their points on the smartass putdowns.
I think he was wearing his black sweater and blue jeans under that suit.
The suit went when Apple lost all interest from the enterprise and had to sell iMacs to soccer moms to stay in business.
This is not a Mac-hating troll post (I've had more Macs than most of you have had steak dinners). It's a realistic assessment of Apple decline in fortunes from its 18% marketshare in the 80s (much of it from the corporate world) to under 2% today.
Get over it. Everyone knows most Slashdot moderators simply rate up or down posts that they agree or disagree with their cause.
Metamoderate if you want to encourage people who do it properly.
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Most people would probably agree with you, even those who know Jobs personally.
And yet, without Jobs to goad people into stroking his ego, there would have been no Mac, no NeXTSTEP, no Apple post-1997, no iMac, no iPod, no standards of excellence in GUI computing.
Sometimes it takes an asshole to make a dent in the universe.
Where did it go? And why wasn't I notified of it leaving?
Around 1995-98, the odds were that Apple would go under and the Mac would have become another Amiga.
The little matter of that guy in the video returning is the only thing that stopped that from happening.
Even now, the Mac has less than 2% marketshare and is sneered at by almost everyone outside the fanboys (who probably kept the company alive by continuing to buy the products even in its dark days), technical elite (Mac often gets a good writeup on Slashdot, but other places treat it as an amusing diversion), and the want-an-alternative-to-M$-but-don't-like-Linux people (who are unfortunately very small in number).
Where are the Mac Mini posts? I've been browsing the comments for 5 mins and all I've read about all mirrors and torrents and the Mac haters saying nothing to see here move along.
There are people talking about Macs here?! Must have been modded to oblivion.
I saw a desk accessory in those screenshots. Man those Apple dudes are devious.
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Not really, A VHS would not have survived as long. Beta was a significantly more robust format.
This is a load of crap. My father, an engineer who was given the task of evaluating the formats for use in education, managed to get hold of a highly bootleg copy of Star Wars on VHS, in 1977.
The JVC machine we played it on even had mechanical type buttons, none of this newfangled soft touch nonsense.
Not robust...? I actually played this old 1977 VHS cassette just a month or two ago (2004) to compare against my recently purchased Star Wars trilogy DVD.
It played just fine thank you, and this is after being originally played many, many times, a long time ago, as you can imagine a 7 year and all his friends would...
I don't know which of the formats was actually this mythical more robust thing you speak of, but I can imagine if there was any difference, it would be beta that was weaker due to the continuous take up spooling to ensure a fast start playback.
Anyone who could strap themselves with explosives, walk into a crowded area filled with civilian men, women and children and blow everyone into small bloody fragments, cannot have any more intelligence than the stupidest machine it's possible to manufacture.
I'm afraid civilization is playing catchup to terrorists when it comes to the dumb robot category.
In other news, 500,000 parents are suing their offspring for divulging secrets to siblings on what they're getting for Christmas.
Instigator of the lawsuit, Mr S. Claus, stated, "Spoiling the surprise has got to stop. It is unacceptable to have emotional distress brought to parents on being told on Christmas morning: 'Old news, mom, I already knew about the bike and baseball bat after Jimmy told me he'd found them under your bed weeks ago.' "
"Furthermore," said Mr Claus, "divulging trade secrets has materially harmed the company North Pole Elf-Made Cool Stuff Inc., to the extent no one believes we can offer surprises any more, completely undermining our attempt to provides an alternative to South Pole Leprechaun Fools Gold Inc., which controls 98% of the Christmas gift market."
Mr Claus also stated, "and on personal note, it sucks to have my surprise stolen, and means my annual North Pole World Keynote just has 'get to the cheap reindeer bit' catcalls instead of its usual gurgles of childish delight."
The class action seeks to force the blabbermouths to disclose who told them to look on the top shelf of the closet.
I know they'd never release anything open source, but just having a package like Dreamweaver available on Linux would be great for giving the platform credibility, and at the same time prove there was a market for Linux software.
It would make a lot of sense too: Linux is predominantly used to *serve* pages, why not have it *create* them too.
I thought Macromedia were considering the idea of porting a few of their products to Linux. Or at the very least, getting them working happily with WINE.
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Yes, you're right. The emotion of the event sounds intense.
Scott Knaster must have that on tape too. Maybe he'll release it next, in a more complete form?
By the way, your post should be modded up as informative as it is a fascinating link. Maybe it would be if the moderators weren't simply interested in wasting their points on the smartass putdowns.
Steve never should have given up the bow ties.
Or lost his hair. But maturing does that to you.
I think he was wearing his black sweater and blue jeans under that suit.
The suit went when Apple lost all interest from the enterprise and had to sell iMacs to soccer moms to stay in business.
This is not a Mac-hating troll post (I've had more Macs than most of you have had steak dinners). It's a realistic assessment of Apple decline in fortunes from its 18% marketshare in the 80s (much of it from the corporate world) to under 2% today.
Get over it. Everyone knows most Slashdot moderators simply rate up or down posts that they agree or disagree with their cause.
Metamoderate if you want to encourage people who do it properly.
Most people would probably agree with you, even those who know Jobs personally.
And yet, without Jobs to goad people into stroking his ego, there would have been no Mac, no NeXTSTEP, no Apple post-1997, no iMac, no iPod, no standards of excellence in GUI computing.
Sometimes it takes an asshole to make a dent in the universe.
Do you mean innovate? Microsoft won't do that because it doesn't get you anywhere financially.
The most Apple ever had was 18% marketshare (late 80s, "before the Empire," as Obi-Wan Kenobi would put it).
Microsoft glued pictures to DOS and got to 98+% marketshare.
Innovation doesn't pay.
That's insanity? Cheering at what was truly groundbreaking in its day?
I'd love to hear your thoughts on monkeyman Ballmer prancing around the stage to the whoops of his developers, developers, developers.
The same video, or the same event? I doubt Scott Knaster would have lied, but you do make a fair point.
I remember Triumph of the Nerds and thought it fascinating at the time.
I wish Robert Cringely would update it. Call it 'Return of the Nerds' maybe!
I actually think Victoria sounds quite nice. How old is your Mac?
Where did it go? And why wasn't I notified of it leaving?
Around 1995-98, the odds were that Apple would go under and the Mac would have become another Amiga.
The little matter of that guy in the video returning is the only thing that stopped that from happening.
Even now, the Mac has less than 2% marketshare and is sneered at by almost everyone outside the fanboys (who probably kept the company alive by continuing to buy the products even in its dark days), technical elite (Mac often gets a good writeup on Slashdot, but other places treat it as an amusing diversion), and the want-an-alternative-to-M$-but-don't-like-Linux people (who are unfortunately very small in number).
Where are the Mac Mini posts? I've been browsing the comments for 5 mins and all I've read about all mirrors and torrents and the Mac haters saying nothing to see here move along.
There are people talking about Macs here?! Must have been modded to oblivion.
It's a sad testament to the power of low prices and commodity software that the mac didn't do better.
Well, maybe just a little bit also to do with the same thing that destroyed Netscape, Lotus 123, DR-DOS, OS/2, WordPerfect, etc, etc.
You know, that 2-bit company that can't stand 1-bit of competition.
I saw a desk accessory in those screenshots. Man those Apple dudes are devious.
Not really, A VHS would not have survived as long. Beta was a significantly more robust format.
This is a load of crap. My father, an engineer who was given the task of evaluating the formats for use in education, managed to get hold of a highly bootleg copy of Star Wars on VHS, in 1977.
The JVC machine we played it on even had mechanical type buttons, none of this newfangled soft touch nonsense.
Not robust...? I actually played this old 1977 VHS cassette just a month or two ago (2004) to compare against my recently purchased Star Wars trilogy DVD.
It played just fine thank you, and this is after being originally played many, many times, a long time ago, as you can imagine a 7 year and all his friends would...
I don't know which of the formats was actually this mythical more robust thing you speak of, but I can imagine if there was any difference, it would be beta that was weaker due to the continuous take up spooling to ensure a fast start playback.
universal constants change at the speed of light.
Or at the whim of Q.
Anyone who could strap themselves with explosives, walk into a crowded area filled with civilian men, women and children and blow everyone into small bloody fragments, cannot have any more intelligence than the stupidest machine it's possible to manufacture.
I'm afraid civilization is playing catchup to terrorists when it comes to the dumb robot category.
Anyone found a FireWire drive that would sit nicely under a Mini?
Or a case they I can put my own ATA drive in? With a 250 or 400 GB drive sitting under it, the Mini could make a rather excellent home server.
That'd be the Creationist Britannica. One page long, all you need to know!
Evolution is just a silly atheists' theory, dinosaurs chased Adam & Eve out of Eden, and vote for Bush because homosexuals are evil.
See, I'm the smartest man in the bible belt already!
In other news, 500,000 parents are suing their offspring for divulging secrets to siblings on what they're getting for Christmas.
Instigator of the lawsuit, Mr S. Claus, stated, "Spoiling the surprise has got to stop. It is unacceptable to have emotional distress brought to parents on being told on Christmas morning: 'Old news, mom, I already knew about the bike and baseball bat after Jimmy told me he'd found them under your bed weeks ago.' "
"Furthermore," said Mr Claus, "divulging trade secrets has materially harmed the company North Pole Elf-Made Cool Stuff Inc., to the extent no one believes we can offer surprises any more, completely undermining our attempt to provides an alternative to South Pole Leprechaun Fools Gold Inc., which controls 98% of the Christmas gift market."
Mr Claus also stated, "and on personal note, it sucks to have my surprise stolen, and means my annual North Pole World Keynote just has 'get to the cheap reindeer bit' catcalls instead of its usual gurgles of childish delight."
The class action seeks to force the blabbermouths to disclose who told them to look on the top shelf of the closet.
I remember that one! It had lots of dark lighting and eery spooky music.
I see you posted AC though...!
[2] Don't eat minty MP3 thingy.
How come stories posted by Michael consistently get the lowest comment count, and are by far the least interesting?
How come Michael can probably see your IP address and send you a nice friendly mother of all ping of deaths...
What is this, be-bitchy-about-Slashdot-editors-week or something?
Robots? Pyramids? Stacking things? NASA?
Are they trying to free Sutekh the Destroyer from his Pyramid of Mars?!
Oh, no one here is a Doctor Who fan... (Backs slowly out of the room, embarrassed.)
I know they'd never release anything open source, but just having a package like Dreamweaver available on Linux would be great for giving the platform credibility, and at the same time prove there was a market for Linux software.
It would make a lot of sense too: Linux is predominantly used to *serve* pages, why not have it *create* them too.
I thought Macromedia were considering the idea of porting a few of their products to Linux. Or at the very least, getting them working happily with WINE.
What happened, or is it still happening?