Oh we're quite 'healthy' - not at the highest level but more than healthy enough to be able to weather serious disease as best as possible. TFA is talking about real malnutrition / lack of clean water / lack of vaccines level healthy.
Now, how we go about spending money on 'health' is another topic that we've attacked numerous times and is much more complex. But, barring small pockets of severe poverty, we're pretty healthy.
Going back to TFA
How much cash does a country need to escape a poverty trap? Goerg and co say their model suggests that the money should be equivalent to halving the cost of disease treatment and prevention.
But this level of investment is not needed in the long term. Goerg and co say the same outcome can be guaranteed if the long term investment is equivalent to only 15 per cent of this cost.
I wonder if they're talking about nutrition / basic sanitation in theses costs. While not terribly high dollar, it's often hard to get levels of basic nutrition and clean water to really poverty stricken places and create the infrastructure to keep the resources up over time. That might be more expensive. Still and all it gives groups like the IMF a spread sheet number that they can plug in to force countries to do something other than create a mega dam for the Chinese.
It would be easy. It is a matter of money. But obviously it hasn't taken off as a business practice. Hell, standing people up like cordword works (Ryan Air) but luxury is a harder sell. Just look at First Class these days (on US airlines anyway) - very few people have bought actual FC tickets. It's largely the $50 upgrade / Frequent Flier / Deadheading crew. If the airlines can't get paying customers to fork over a couple of hundred dollars, it doesn't look like charging a couple thousand extra (which is what this would take) is going to, excuse the expression, fly.
A homosexual sex therapist, an immigrant from Georgia, a hyperactive porn star who was passing around cell phone photos, a retired Secret Service agent who worked on GWB's detail, and a drunk guy who was flying to Seattle to interview with Microsoft.
Ah, whatever floats your boat there... I guess I just like good coffee and poking around in cockpits of Gulfstream V's. But do let us all know how this works out. At the very least, it sounds like the beginning of a good reality TV show plot. We could call it "Airport" or something.
You're getting dangerously close to wanting a leased jet. A really nice leased jet from a company that has lots of capacity and infrastructure. Actually, you're getting close to wanting the Air Force to haul you around.
Depends on where you live. In Alaska, there are 'lots' of things that are not Prime eligible. Or just cost more. Amazon is a pretty good buy on most things, but they do tend to move the cheese around.
Or in terms slashdot can understand: it's like when your online girlfriend tells you she's a hot chick but when you meet for sex, it's actually a dude.
Sorry, we were doing better when it was a car analogy.
Careful there bud. His Noodliness is going to sprinkle you with the sacred Parmesan^HPenicilin and you're going to squeeze right through the holes in His Glorious Colander of Might.
All you have said is that you don't understand a lot of things that are going on around us. Not news and NOT evidence of anything other than our limited mental capacities.
Fox news consistently ignores political issues, covers up for the RNC when possible (and at times, when well nigh impossible) and treats ALL possible readers as idiots.
Must depend on the field. In Molecular Biology you might get a low end industry job without a post doc. Anything else, not a chance. Kind of like medicine - while it's technically possible to get a job without a internship (essentially a one year post doc position) and a residency, you won't like the job (some Indian reservation in the badlands of West Nowhere).
YMMV of course. It would be interesting to break it down by major fields.
Wow. In Molecular Biology in the late 80's (before I bolted into medicine), post docs were making 35K tops. Wonder what it is now, but I don't think it's anywhere near 95K. Hell, that's more than my professor made.
No, it's not because they are cutting out layers of the traditional health network. It's because the service falls into a category that they are supposed to regulate. You can argue that 1) The categorization is over broad or unreliable or has other issues 2) The FDA SHOULD NOT do these sorts of things (in which case you can lobby your congresscritters to de enable the FDA's jurisdiction over such tests or 3) the FDA is being over harsh / demanding of 23&me compared to other companies with similar services.
But there is no need to get all conspiratorial. The FDA has been very, very conservative about letting complex medical information out to the public. There are huge internal and external debates about the wisdom of that - some of which comes from people with vested interests both in the status quo and with interest in changing business as usual. They tend to act like the very careful deliberative committee that they are. They are hardly perfect.
But the interesting thing about the articles in TFS is that 23&me has been very uncooperative. For a company with the level of financial backing and sophistication that they are presumed to have, I find it puzzling. I would like to hear what they have to say about the demand letter.
Here is a nice slide show which shows you the regulatory framework. You can, if you really have nothing more entertaining to do, look up the enabling legislation in the CFR (Code of Federal Regulations).
I do really hope you have something more enlightening to do....
This is what regulatory agencies do. They 'decide' if the product or service or what not falls under their jurisdiction. They are typically (and in this case, the FDA specifically) given legal powers to compel companies to follow rules and regulations.
Of course, the companies are not without recourse. There are detailed rules on how the regulations are enforced (go ahead, read them, that should keep you occupied for some time, be sure to stock up on adequate quantities of Doritos and Diet Dr. Pepper). The last letter in the summary is quite interesting. The FDA details an entire page of attempts to work with 23&me at various times and venues. Apparently, the company's response has been pretty minimal. If you read between the diplomatic legalese, the FDA sounds pretty annoyed at the company.
Don't get all bunched up about how we 'didn't elect' the FDA / FAA and even the NSA. We elect the people that write the enabling legislation and believe me, Congress is forever trying to meddle into details they really shouldn't (cf, the 10 million exceptions to everything in Medicare / Medicaid regulations and the horrid legislative quagmire that the ACA* is trying to create). Further, the involved companies can directly petition the regulatory agencies and even sue them.
There are plenty of checks and balances. Hardly perfect and always subject to argument about where the various lines should be drawn, but it is never a regulatory free fall, despite what Limbag wants you believe.
Oh we're quite 'healthy' - not at the highest level but more than healthy enough to be able to weather serious disease as best as possible. TFA is talking about real malnutrition / lack of clean water / lack of vaccines level healthy.
Now, how we go about spending money on 'health' is another topic that we've attacked numerous times and is much more complex. But, barring small pockets of severe poverty, we're pretty healthy.
Going back to TFA
How much cash does a country need to escape a poverty trap? Goerg and co say their model suggests that the money should be equivalent to halving the cost of disease treatment and prevention.
But this level of investment is not needed in the long term. Goerg and co say the same outcome can be guaranteed if the long term investment is equivalent to only 15 per cent of this cost.
I wonder if they're talking about nutrition / basic sanitation in theses costs. While not terribly high dollar, it's often hard to get levels of basic nutrition and clean water to really poverty stricken places and create the infrastructure to keep the resources up over time. That might be more expensive. Still and all it gives groups like the IMF a spread sheet number that they can plug in to force countries to do something other than create a mega dam for the Chinese.
Well that explains a lot of things - Healthcare, Democrat, Football.
No wonder we're so confused. It's all your fault.
USA! USA! USA!
It would be easy. It is a matter of money. But obviously it hasn't taken off as a business practice. Hell, standing people up like cordword works (Ryan Air) but luxury is a harder sell. Just look at First Class these days (on US airlines anyway) - very few people have bought actual FC tickets. It's largely the $50 upgrade / Frequent Flier / Deadheading crew. If the airlines can't get paying customers to fork over a couple of hundred dollars, it doesn't look like charging a couple thousand extra (which is what this would take) is going to, excuse the expression, fly.
A homosexual sex therapist, an immigrant from Georgia, a hyperactive porn star who was passing around cell phone photos, a retired Secret Service agent who worked on GWB's detail, and a drunk guy who was flying to Seattle to interview with Microsoft.
Ah, whatever floats your boat there ... I guess I just like good coffee and poking around in cockpits of Gulfstream V's. But do let us all know how this works out. At the very least, it sounds like the beginning of a good reality TV show plot. We could call it "Airport" or something.
If they're so smart, how come I keep getting "Hello Kitty" adverts from Amazon?
You're getting dangerously close to wanting a leased jet. A really nice leased jet from a company that has lots of capacity and infrastructure. Actually, you're getting close to wanting the Air Force to haul you around.
Goodluckwiththat.
Being grounded is perfectly safe. Besides, I'd rather hang out at an FBO than a commercial airline terminal most days.....
Look, at least he isn't whining about a car analogy.
It's winter here. The only thing you're likely to see is a hungry bear and a bunch of clouds.
We don't do tan lines in Alaska. Global warming hasn't quite got that far.
Jury nullification in West Texas? The very home of patent trolling?
You might as well wish for a Pony, a balanced budget and Peace On Earth.
Depends on where you live. In Alaska, there are 'lots' of things that are not Prime eligible. Or just cost more. Amazon is a pretty good buy on most things, but they do tend to move the cheese around.
I want my cars like I want my women.
Quiet and powered off until I need them.
Or in terms slashdot can understand: it's like when your online girlfriend tells you she's a hot chick but when you meet for sex, it's actually a dude.
Sorry, we were doing better when it was a car analogy.
Prometheus was really a science fiction movie, not an Historical Document.
Careful there bud. His Noodliness is going to sprinkle you with the sacred Parmesan^HPenicilin and you're going to squeeze right through the holes in His Glorious Colander of Might.
So, it's creators all the way down?
Is that an endless loop or merely recursion?
Because there isn't any NEED to presuppose a 'creator'. If it makes you happy, then fine, run with it. It's just not science.
All you have said is that you don't understand a lot of things that are going on around us. Not news and NOT evidence of anything other than our limited mental capacities.
Fox news consistently ignores political issues, covers up for the RNC when possible (and at times, when well nigh impossible) and treats ALL possible readers as idiots.
Well that's easy, but blank space doesn't sell too many ads.
Must depend on the field. In Molecular Biology you might get a low end industry job without a post doc. Anything else, not a chance. Kind of like medicine - while it's technically possible to get a job without a internship (essentially a one year post doc position) and a residency, you won't like the job (some Indian reservation in the badlands of West Nowhere).
YMMV of course. It would be interesting to break it down by major fields.
Wow. In Molecular Biology in the late 80's (before I bolted into medicine), post docs were making 35K tops. Wonder what it is now, but I don't think it's anywhere near 95K. Hell, that's more than my professor made.
No, it's not because they are cutting out layers of the traditional health network. It's because the service falls into a category that they are supposed to regulate. You can argue that 1) The categorization is over broad or unreliable or has other issues 2) The FDA SHOULD NOT do these sorts of things (in which case you can lobby your congresscritters to de enable the FDA's jurisdiction over such tests or 3) the FDA is being over harsh / demanding of 23&me compared to other companies with similar services.
But there is no need to get all conspiratorial. The FDA has been very, very conservative about letting complex medical information out to the public. There are huge internal and external debates about the wisdom of that - some of which comes from people with vested interests both in the status quo and with interest in changing business as usual. They tend to act like the very careful deliberative committee that they are. They are hardly perfect.
But the interesting thing about the articles in TFS is that 23&me has been very uncooperative. For a company with the level of financial backing and sophistication that they are presumed to have, I find it puzzling. I would like to hear what they have to say about the demand letter.
Here is a nice slide show which shows you the regulatory framework. You can, if you really have nothing more entertaining to do, look up the enabling legislation in the CFR (Code of Federal Regulations).
I do really hope you have something more enlightening to do....
This is what regulatory agencies do. They 'decide' if the product or service or what not falls under their jurisdiction. They are typically (and in this case, the FDA specifically) given legal powers to compel companies to follow rules and regulations.
Of course, the companies are not without recourse. There are detailed rules on how the regulations are enforced (go ahead, read them, that should keep you occupied for some time, be sure to stock up on adequate quantities of Doritos and Diet Dr. Pepper). The last letter in the summary is quite interesting. The FDA details an entire page of attempts to work with 23&me at various times and venues. Apparently, the company's response has been pretty minimal. If you read between the diplomatic legalese, the FDA sounds pretty annoyed at the company.
Don't get all bunched up about how we 'didn't elect' the FDA / FAA and even the NSA. We elect the people that write the enabling legislation and believe me, Congress is forever trying to meddle into details they really shouldn't (cf, the 10 million exceptions to everything in Medicare / Medicaid regulations and the horrid legislative quagmire that the ACA* is trying to create). Further, the involved companies can directly petition the regulatory agencies and even sue them.
There are plenty of checks and balances. Hardly perfect and always subject to argument about where the various lines should be drawn, but it is never a regulatory free fall, despite what Limbag wants you believe.
* ACA - Affordable Care Act - aka Obamacare