Correct, but you see, electron volts != volts, or power. An electron volt is a unit of energy. About 6.25*10^18 electron volts per second = 1 watt.
The problem is not generating that much energy. A candle is overkill. The problem is not getting that much energy into two particles, although that is far harder. (see the cyclotron story posted to/. a week ago or so) The problem is getting this energy into two particles, and then getting them to hit each other at the right angle, and in enough quantities. This has not been done yet. (see this for some details)
To do this in a nanotech machine there are two more big problems. The energies are far more than needed to destroy any chemical bond, and it is chemical bonds that keep nanotech machines together. The second is capturing the energy produced into a useable form. The produced energy is much greater.
Last, I need to correct my post. The 2.2Mev figure was wrong, that is roughly the energy produced. The easiest reaction is D+T (see the link!) and it requires 10kev to start, straight proton proton needs 144kev or so. It varies based on the fuel alot. The < 10 ev to get free electrons is also more than in most chemical bonds.
"So I'm curious - what makes you say cheap fusion is likely? Or are you saying you think that my idea is so unlikely that you can afford to be thinking 1000 years into the future for your cheap fusion presumption?"
Unless cold fusion is actually fusion, then yes, your idea is far less likely than a cheap fusion reactor. BTW, what you are proposing IS FUSION. With mabe a little fission thrown in.
The energies needed to get free electrons are < 10 electron volts. (most materials) Simple fusion (hydrogen) is about 2.2M electron volts. We didn't figure out a 'low energy way' to get free electrons, we just found several brute force methods. Because it does not take that much force.
Cheap fusion power will come far before the technology you are talking about. Until then, we have to stick to more mundane energy sources.
Since when are the Americas near the River Euphrates? (Gen 2:14)
The first name for New York City was New Amsterdam. Since when was new york in the netherlands? Or when was the east coast of the US in england? (York?) Or Idaho in europe? (Paris, Idaho)
People reuse names, What makes you think that they would not reuse a river name? Besides, only two of the four rivers mentioned in Genisis exist in Iraq, and they do not match the (scanty at best) descriptions in Genisis. Considering the usual quality of theological arguments, this one is almost foolproof - and poses no threat to the LDS faith.
You obviously don't know much about mormon theology then. According to the Book of Mormon (the book about, and written by the Nephites) a group of people came to the americas direct from the tower of babel, and destroyed themselves between 600 and 200 BC. (Nephites arrived a little after 600 BC)
And Secondly, Mormon theology says that the garden on eden was actually in the americas too, and somewhere between Adam and the flood, (inclusive I guess) Noah ended up in the old world.
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What occupation?
Most of the southern states were not readmitted into the union for 3-5 years after the war. During this timeperiod they were under martial law. Even then it took another 5 years or so for the states to resume local control of their own government. So, yes, there was an occupation.
See wikipedia for dates, look at the table near the bottom.
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Ludwig von Mises said:
Popular opinion ascribes all these evils to the capitalistic system. As a remedy for the undesirable effects of interventionism they ask for still more interventionism. They blame capitalism for the effects of the actions of governments which pursue an anti-capitalistic policy.
" Show me where George Washington sent suicide bombers to murder British children"
Whether or not Washington was or was not a 'terrorist' is not the point here. Whether or not the British thought he was is. I imagine a fair number of 'millitants' that were in Fallauja were not terrorists.
'The facts of history, like the letters of the alphabet, can be arrainges so as to say just about anything.' - author, I don't know.
The reason MSFT etc. needs regulation is not because of some evil intent, (even if there is evil intent) of bill gates (or others). It is because of other broken/outdated/manipulated regulations. In this case it is patent/copyright regulations, and probably corporate ones too. If I could legally hack windows without the fear of copyright/patent issues, the MSFT monopoly wouldn't be such a problem, and if MSFT shareholders were liable for the criminal acts of the corporation, they wouldn't condone such things so easily.
This is probably not the best example of this sort of trouble, but the real solution to MSFT's abuses is not more regulation, it is less.
Hmmm... It seems that the best way to attract the attention of the US military is to... ummm... try to build an army (or weapons) big enough to defend yourself.
Can you convince me that this isn't the reason other nations aren't 'defending' themselves?
Legal concerns, like red hat taking out mp3 support.
So, a program compiled for one distro may not work on the other. It may use a feature of a library that is only on red hat, or put it's files into a directory that does not exist on debian, (or hard-code the locations of a program in, eg/bin/bash, when the actual file is/usr/bin/bash on the other distro!) Or expect mp3 support in a particular library, and not find it. In this case there is no advantage at all for having the same package mannager, or for putting all of the programs into the same package collection. KISS says keep them separate.
Bees store pollen too. Bottom line here is she had a good idea (look at what did survive!) but failed to do her research on what bees do need to survive.
Nonsense. All bees hibernate. Even the tropical kind.
Bees navigate by the position of the sun. No sun = bees stay home. So all bees 'hibernate' each night, and when it is cloudy, regardless of how cold it is. And since the whole climate change happened because the sun was blocked, the bees would have stayed in the hive until the sun came out. Since whatever flowering plants survived would be growing again by then, the only questions are 'Did it get too cold for the hive to live?' and 'Did they have enough food to survive that long?' The first question is no. bees survive below freezing just fine (they just eat more), and in the tropics it did not reach freezing. The second is harder to answer, but beekeepers have posted saying they should make it. You only need a few hives anyway.
Not quite, We do not have a 'bad' democracy. The problem is that democracy is a bad form of government. Not as bad as a dictatorship, and somewhat better than communism. About on par with monarchy.
People seem to forget history. Even the first democracy did not last long, less than 100 years. (Athens)
Yes, but it is usually in a form that is only useable by the windows driver, and in any case, it is not on the latest $LINUX_OR_BSD_DISTRO_OF_CHOICE iso image that you just downloaded, burned and are trying to install.
Sorry, but very often, when a new theory replaces an old one, the reason is not that the people were convinced by the compelling evidence. It is because those who held to the old theory got old and died, and those who took their place believed the new theory.
This happens far too often, for both religion and science. I suspect that the grandparent post was right. A lot of them would not believe, even if god came and told them so. Remember, god did that once. And his people for the most part still don't believe 2000 years later.
"I don't believe in anything that cannot be proven and tested"
I stubbed my toe last week. It hurt.
I had a great idea yesterday.
I've been thinking about that.
I made this water by burning hydrogen 5 minutes ago.
There are plenty of things that cannot be proven and tested. And it should be easy to prove it too. all you need is one solid example, I just gave you four decent candidates, I am sure you could come up with a few more. This hardly proves supernatural things, but it does prove that you cannot prove that there are none.
Unrepeatable anomalies are not as good as fairy tales. They are not as entertaining. (*joke) They are also valid scientific data. What they tell us is that the experiment was not controlled enough. We did not account for all of the inputs. Either there is some effect that we were not aware of and did not measure, detect, or understand[1] in this particular run of the experiment, or the materials in the experiment were not as pure or simple as we tried to get them.[2]
In short, the experiment was flawed. Usually though, our experiments are good enough that we can just throw out the few anomalous results, and still have enough clean data to get our results. Perhaps later on, as we get further understanding, we will be able to make sense of and gain understanding of, those anomalies.
There are indeed fanatics, many of whom are seeking a security blanket, and who can't accept that their view of the purpose for living is wrong, let alone that there may not be any - as you charged in a previous post. I think you are sick of these claims. I know I am. I think that you believe that these claims do lots of damage and retard scientific progress. I do to. But I also think that you have let this disgust take you too far, to the point of assuming that anything that would seem to support their claims, even in some small way, is wrong, and to go about trying to prove that it is wrong, instead of trying to discover the truth. I hope that you can see that this is exactally what the creationists do. They assume that evolution is false, and so they attack anything that seems to support it, with no concern for the truth.
[1]This could be anything from a stray burst of gamma rays from deep space, to a new principle of quantum mechanics, to a god saying 'I feel like using my power here for X reason'. And since we had neither a gamma ray meter nor a god-power meter present, we missed that input.
[2]That wasn't really pure water, it had a little bit of X in it....
"The coders were needed back when there was no free version of Unix. Now that there is one, some of these old guys (30 something and managing to be over the hill, CS is a great field....) need to step aside and let the researchers take the lead."
So, what are you/the researchers waiting for? Fork it already and get busy. Linus ain't stupid, he'll put your patches/port your changes in if they are good.
Heck, do a good enough job and you could start the 2.7.x series.
The President could veto the spending bills, so the president bears some blame for a deficit (unless overruled) In this case, the president pushed hard for much of the spending increases and tax cuts. So in this case, blaming the Pres. makes sense.
A bank robber goes into a bank, robs it at gunpoint, and in the process, shoots and kills a bank customer. During the police investigation, it is learned that the bank customer was a murder who had escaped from death row a few days earlier.
Question, do we drop the homicide charges against the bank robber, because the 'customer' deserved to die?
"That kind of stuff is just not something the 21st century should put up with."
Of course, and just look at how pleased the world is with the US for invading Iraq and capturing Saddam.
Hate to break it to you, but the people in the 21st century are pretty much the same as those from the 20th (Hitler, Stalin, etc), or any other time in history. Human nature does not change all that fast.
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Correct, but you see, electron volts != volts, or power. An electron volt is a unit of energy. About 6.25*10^18 electron volts per second = 1 watt.
The problem is not generating that much energy. A candle is overkill. The problem is not getting that much energy into two particles, although that is far harder. (see the cyclotron story posted to /. a week ago or so) The problem is getting this energy into two particles, and then getting them to hit each other at the right angle, and in enough quantities. This has not been done yet. (see this for some details)
To do this in a nanotech machine there are two more big problems. The energies are far more than needed to destroy any chemical bond, and it is chemical bonds that keep nanotech machines together. The second is capturing the energy produced into a useable form. The produced energy is much greater.
Last, I need to correct my post. The 2.2Mev figure was wrong, that is roughly the energy produced. The easiest reaction is D+T (see the link!) and it requires 10kev to start, straight proton proton needs 144kev or so. It varies based on the fuel alot. The < 10 ev to get free electrons is also more than in most chemical bonds.
"So I'm curious - what makes you say cheap fusion is likely? Or are you saying you think that my idea is so unlikely that you can afford to be thinking 1000 years into the future for your cheap fusion presumption?"
Unless cold fusion is actually fusion, then yes, your idea is far less likely than a cheap fusion reactor. BTW, what you are proposing IS FUSION. With mabe a little fission thrown in.
Cheap fusion power will come far before the technology you are talking about. Until then, we have to stick to more mundane energy sources.
You are dead right about the 'not a new thing' part, but the 'not a bad thing' is a rare critter indeed.
*sigh* Usually the answer is zero. It is someone elses car.
Confiscation only sounds like a good idea.
The first name for New York City was New Amsterdam. Since when was new york in the netherlands? Or when was the east coast of the US in england? (York?) Or Idaho in europe? (Paris, Idaho)
People reuse names, What makes you think that they would not reuse a river name? Besides, only two of the four rivers mentioned in Genisis exist in Iraq, and they do not match the (scanty at best) descriptions in Genisis. Considering the usual quality of theological arguments, this one is almost foolproof - and poses no threat to the LDS faith.
And Secondly, Mormon theology says that the garden on eden was actually in the americas too, and somewhere between Adam and the flood, (inclusive I guess) Noah ended up in the old world.
Most of the southern states were not readmitted into the union for 3-5 years after the war. During this timeperiod they were under martial law. Even then it took another 5 years or so for the states to resume local control of their own government. So, yes, there was an occupation.
See wikipedia for dates, look at the table near the bottom.
He said it better than I did.
Whether or not Washington was or was not a 'terrorist' is not the point here. Whether or not the British thought he was is. I imagine a fair number of 'millitants' that were in Fallauja were not terrorists.
'The facts of history, like the letters of the alphabet, can be arrainges so as to say just about anything.' - author, I don't know.
The reason MSFT etc. needs regulation is not because of some evil intent, (even if there is evil intent) of bill gates (or others). It is because of other broken/outdated/manipulated regulations. In this case it is patent/copyright regulations, and probably corporate ones too. If I could legally hack windows without the fear of copyright/patent issues, the MSFT monopoly wouldn't be such a problem, and if MSFT shareholders were liable for the criminal acts of the corporation, they wouldn't condone such things so easily.
This is probably not the best example of this sort of trouble, but the real solution to MSFT's abuses is not more regulation, it is less.
Can you convince me that this isn't the reason other nations aren't 'defending' themselves?
File systen layouts are often different.
Legal concerns, like red hat taking out mp3 support.
So, a program compiled for one distro may not work on the other. It may use a feature of a library that is only on red hat, or put it's files into a directory that does not exist on debian, (or hard-code the locations of a program in, eg /bin/bash, when the actual file is /usr/bin/bash on the other distro!) Or expect mp3 support in a particular library, and not find it. In this case there is no advantage at all for having the same package mannager, or for putting all of the programs into the same package collection. KISS says keep them separate.
Google for 'ring species' if you want to see speciation in progress.
Bees store pollen too. Bottom line here is she had a good idea (look at what did survive!) but failed to do her research on what bees do need to survive.
Bees navigate by the position of the sun. No sun = bees stay home. So all bees 'hibernate' each night, and when it is cloudy, regardless of how cold it is. And since the whole climate change happened because the sun was blocked, the bees would have stayed in the hive until the sun came out. Since whatever flowering plants survived would be growing again by then, the only questions are 'Did it get too cold for the hive to live?' and 'Did they have enough food to survive that long?' The first question is no. bees survive below freezing just fine (they just eat more), and in the tropics it did not reach freezing. The second is harder to answer, but beekeepers have posted saying they should make it. You only need a few hives anyway.
Not quite, We do not have a 'bad' democracy. The problem is that democracy is a bad form of government. Not as bad as a dictatorship, and somewhat better than communism. About on par with monarchy.
People seem to forget history. Even the first democracy did not last long, less than 100 years. (Athens)
My brother-inlaw has the 5600 version of this, he got it for the component out. It works quite well.
Yes, but it is usually in a form that is only useable by the windows driver, and in any case, it is not on the latest $LINUX_OR_BSD_DISTRO_OF_CHOICE iso image that you just downloaded, burned and are trying to install.
This happens far too often, for both religion and science. I suspect that the grandparent post was right. A lot of them would not believe, even if god came and told them so. Remember, god did that once. And his people for the most part still don't believe 2000 years later.
I stubbed my toe last week. It hurt.
I had a great idea yesterday.
I've been thinking about that.
I made this water by burning hydrogen 5 minutes ago.
There are plenty of things that cannot be proven and tested. And it should be easy to prove it too. all you need is one solid example, I just gave you four decent candidates, I am sure you could come up with a few more. This hardly proves supernatural things, but it does prove that you cannot prove that there are none.
Unrepeatable anomalies are not as good as fairy tales. They are not as entertaining. (*joke) They are also valid scientific data. What they tell us is that the experiment was not controlled enough. We did not account for all of the inputs. Either there is some effect that we were not aware of and did not measure, detect, or understand[1] in this particular run of the experiment, or the materials in the experiment were not as pure or simple as we tried to get them.[2]
In short, the experiment was flawed. Usually though, our experiments are good enough that we can just throw out the few anomalous results, and still have enough clean data to get our results. Perhaps later on, as we get further understanding, we will be able to make sense of and gain understanding of, those anomalies.
There are indeed fanatics, many of whom are seeking a security blanket, and who can't accept that their view of the purpose for living is wrong, let alone that there may not be any - as you charged in a previous post. I think you are sick of these claims. I know I am. I think that you believe that these claims do lots of damage and retard scientific progress. I do to. But I also think that you have let this disgust take you too far, to the point of assuming that anything that would seem to support their claims, even in some small way, is wrong, and to go about trying to prove that it is wrong, instead of trying to discover the truth. I hope that you can see that this is exactally what the creationists do. They assume that evolution is false, and so they attack anything that seems to support it, with no concern for the truth.
[1]This could be anything from a stray burst of gamma rays from deep space, to a new principle of quantum mechanics, to a god saying 'I feel like using my power here for X reason'. And since we had neither a gamma ray meter nor a god-power meter present, we missed that input.
[2]That wasn't really pure water, it had a little bit of X in it....
So, what are you/the researchers waiting for? Fork it already and get busy. Linus ain't stupid, he'll put your patches/port your changes in if they are good.
Heck, do a good enough job and you could start the 2.7.x series.
The DMCA is somewhat different.
Question, do we drop the homicide charges against the bank robber, because the 'customer' deserved to die?
"That kind of stuff is just not something the 21st century should put up with."
Of course, and just look at how pleased the world is with the US for invading Iraq and capturing Saddam.
Hate to break it to you, but the people in the 21st century are pretty much the same as those from the 20th (Hitler, Stalin, etc), or any other time in history. Human nature does not change all that fast.
"The facts of history, like the letters of the alphabet, can be arrainged so as to say just about anything."[1]
What was the historian who wrote the history you read, trying to say?
[1] I can't remember where I got this quote or I would say.
See this. (short version, they are mostly software raid controllers.)