NO! That is the windoze mentality, 'don't let the user do anything that I think is bad' The *nix way is let the user decide what they want to do and warn them if you think it is bad (if at all) and then let them do it if they really want to!!
The proper way to simplify this is to have a 'show hidden files' option somewhere. If the user knows enough to want to edit his.bash_profile, he is probably aware of the complications possible and will at least be able to make some sense of the errors he gets if/when they happen.
When you simplify something too far you end up with something too simple to be usefull. And something that can't be used is hardly user-friendly.
Second: Dell currently does not even ship computers with AMD processors yet, and you expect them to ship preinstalled Linux machines? I don't think so.
Short version: A person, seeing the creation from the earth, would have seen the earth form before seeing the sun. So that is the order of things in genisis
0.005% ?? Not even close The universe is far larger than even most geeks realize. Our solar system is a far larger percentage of the milky way than the milky way is of the universe. Notice that in this picture, there is only ONE star from our galaxy. (it is the thing with lines comming out of it) For every star in our galaxy there are thousands if not 100's of thousands of galaxies.
FWIW It was recently reported that about 2/3 of US companies paid no corporate income tax last year. Tax loopholes and creative accounting. No, I do not think that you would see any price cuts. There would not be all that much difference to begin with.
"Try not to think about the alternative to darwinism, but instead look at the problems with it."
A car with problems (which describes my car perfectly:) is better than no transportation at all. I have to have a good alternative. Fixing my bike would do.
So my question for you is, do you have one? speciffically, what alternative creationist theories do you have that would explain the existance of the fossil record as it currently exists? Keep in mind that the fossil record contains mostly animals that do not exist anymore, and while those animals that do exist do show up sometimes, they are by far the minority.
Where does it end? Go reread my last paragraph. Governement cannot regulate religious practice. 10 commandments in the courthouse? fine - you are not required to look at or read them, and you neither get nor lose any rights or priveledges by reading or not reading. If the courts tried to penalize you for reading or not, that is where it ends. Contempt of court for saying the lord's prayer right, wrong, indifferent, or not at all, is way too far, since saying (or not saying) the lord's prayer is a religious practice.
Stifle religious expression, - Stop! Religious expression is a religious practice, and the government can't do that. That particular group can feel however they choose, it is not the role of the government to make people feel special, or different, or stupid, or . . .
Don't you remember High/Grade school? Grade school. Were you a true geek and ostracised because of it? Yes, badly. And it was one of the reasons I and my siblings were home taught after that. (High school was 5 AP classes + drivers ed)
Prayers in school, as long as the childeren can choose to participate or not, and are not penalized in any way, fine (except for the mead part:) Childeren can be very cruel to each other. The public school system (lots of kids together, few adults, everyone see's each other's scores, etc.) aggrivates that. My kids (if I ever have any) will be taught at home.
"Genesis in the Bible is based on other creation myths from that region as well. Don't you know _anything_ about stories from outside the Bible?"
Yes, I know a little about the other myths. (not that much but. ..) I would be very suprised if the original story only ended up in the bible. Plus the fact that the original was not in the same language as what the jews spoke (or anyone else during the exile for that matter) as their languages didn't exist yet.
Curious now, what is the order of creation in some of the other versions?
Actually there is more scientific fact in the bible than you might guess.
Compare if you will the order of things occuring in genisis 1 & 2 to current theories of the formation of the earth.
"And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.": The solar system is a cloud of dust and gas, (without form?) and dark. the dust is too thick, it blocks all outside light.
"Let there be light: and there was light." The sun finally lit, illuminating the dust cloud it was in, It would look like being in thick fog.
"and God divided the light from the darkness." Solar wind starts to thin out the dust enough that it is no longer light on the far side of the earth. Note that the sun and stars are not 'created' until after plants. They would not be visible from the earth until the solar wind cleared out most of the dust. Or possibly until the plants cleared out the atmosphere (think venus like clouds of something)
Plants before animals, ocean life before land life, these are all roughly in the same order as modern science has determined. Oh, and the 'let the earth bring forth' part sounds like evolution to me.
I think that The bible creation story is all that is left of a vision god showed someone of the creation, time compressed at least, and from the perspective of the earth. The guy who saw it didn't really know what he was seeing, and those who wrote it down and put it into the bible generations later were totally clueless about what it was actually describing. Modern science has filled in many of the details that were lost and is a much better description of the same event.
Try this for direct evidence of macro-evolution. (More info here ) To say Evolution is a fact is only a slight exaggeration. A more accurate statement would be 'The world we live in looks exactally like we would expect a world to look that had evolved over a long period of time by evolutionary processes that we know can and would work given the circumstances that we see our world is in. '
The existance of fossils and strata are simply fact. They exist. Various theories about how and when they formed are not necessarly fact. However they do exist, so any theory that does not provide a way for them to exist is wrong. Simple creationist theories of how the earth was formed rely on 'God is a big practical joker who likes to mess with your head' The God of the bible doesn't do stuff like that. (IMHO)
Dating methods are many, and they all agree too well that the earth is old for any reasonable person to question. (barring the practical joker of course) See here for specifics about the trees.
People who say evolution is not true are either ignorant* of the facts, (this can be fixed through study) or they think that an evolving world is incomaptible with the existance of God, (simply not true, but you do have to drop the medievial interpretations of genisis 1 and 2, and other parts of the bible)and they have personal evidence that he exists.
*I am using ignorant to mean 'don't know', not 'stupid' here!
In english, The photon is not a point, only when it hits something does it act like a point, as it only hits one point. A photon is a weird fuzzy thing that is mostly here, and partly here and over there, but a little bit everywhere else. It interferes with itself because it squeezed through both holes, and because it squished itself through both holes, it's shape (places where it mostly and partly was) changed, and so there are some places that it is more likely to hit, and some places that it can't hit.
Who's god? the declaration of independance calls him 'Creator', so whoever created man, that is the god they were talking about. the only one who matters anyway. Athiest? Man exists. So he was created somehow. (evolution counts IMO) the 'Creator' still applies.
Commit offences to any religion? What are you smoking? You can't avoid offending everybody no matter what you do. God in government? You offend the atheists. No god in government? You offend the Christian right. Sorry, but you crietria for deciding what is allowed is horribly flawed. It doesn't even allow you to do nothing, let alone something.
The proper criteria is this: The Government cannot take away or grant rights or priveledges based on religious belief or parctice, and cannot regulate or prohibit any religious belief or practice. (save those practices that violate others rights, eg. human sacrifice etc.) Having 'In God We Trust' on our money does not violate any of this, Neither does the 10 commandments in courthouses. Or prayers in schools, as long as grades, graduation eligibility for school office (class prez.) etc. are not predicated on participation (or lack of) in the prayer.
That sort of revolution is only possible in poor countries where there is not enough wealth that the government can use to supress the discontented population. There is that kind of wealth in the US, and most of it in the hands of people who want to maintain the status-quo. Corporate America. Discontented people will not be enough here without fair elections, and maby not even then.
a) they are very anti-religion (funny, the Founding Fathers weren't) and most people care more about their religion than their freedom. (and usually understand neither.)
b) People are ignorant of history, and the history of politics. Plus, they like voting themselvs money out of the public treasury.
Libertarians need to become less anti-religion (possible without leaving their principals) and work on the education bit. I don't have an answer for the greed bit.
The FF did not intend for there to be any such thing as 'the strong arm of the American military'. Case in point, the Constitution only allows Congress to appropriate funds to the army for 2 years. This is not out of fiscal conscern, there is no time limit on the navy spending. It was their intent that the army be completely disbanded as soon as the war was over. I am not saying that that would be a good idea given modern military tech., but . . .
"Since we (every day citizens) aren't allowed to have weapons sufficient to repel a modern army... the second ammendment has been effectively gutted,
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You mean violated. See the first definition According to the second amendment if I want to own and responsively posess military hardware, the government can't interfere. They do. I recall a TV show about airspeed records. Somebody bought (legally) all of the parts and put together his own jet fighter. The Air Force had a fit. The only reason that his plane wasn't confiscated really was the fact that he crashed and destroyed it.
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Given this fact, 10% sounds pretty good to me.
The proper way to simplify this is to have a 'show hidden files' option somewhere. If the user knows enough to want to edit his .bash_profile, he is probably aware of the complications possible and will at least be able to make some sense of the errors he gets if/when they happen.
When you simplify something too far you end up with something too simple to be usefull. And something that can't be used is hardly user-friendly.
Second: Dell currently does not even ship computers with AMD processors yet, and you expect them to ship preinstalled Linux machines? I don't think so.
Short version: A person, seeing the creation from the earth, would have seen the earth form before seeing the sun. So that is the order of things in genisis
0.005% ?? Not even close The universe is far larger than even most geeks realize. Our solar system is a far larger percentage of the milky way than the milky way is of the universe. Notice that in this picture, there is only ONE star from our galaxy. (it is the thing with lines comming out of it) For every star in our galaxy there are thousands if not 100's of thousands of galaxies.
Dang, so much for RTFA. You did not even read what you replied to. I discussed that. In fact, it is one of the key points. Go back and read it.
FWIW It was recently reported that about 2/3 of US companies paid no corporate income tax last year. Tax loopholes and creative accounting. No, I do not think that you would see any price cuts. There would not be all that much difference to begin with.
Ain't that just different regualtion?
A car with problems (which describes my car perfectly :) is better than no transportation at all. I have to have a good alternative. Fixing my bike would do.
So my question for you is, do you have one? speciffically, what alternative creationist theories do you have that would explain the existance of the fossil record as it currently exists? Keep in mind that the fossil record contains mostly animals that do not exist anymore, and while those animals that do exist do show up sometimes, they are by far the minority.
To say it is THE human problem is not too far off, but you missed ignorance and lazyness. (they are big too)
Stifle religious expression, - Stop! Religious expression is a religious practice, and the government can't do that. That particular group can feel however they choose, it is not the role of the government to make people feel special, or different, or stupid, or . . .
Don't you remember High/Grade school? Grade school. Were you a true geek and ostracised because of it? Yes, badly. And it was one of the reasons I and my siblings were home taught after that. (High school was 5 AP classes + drivers ed)
Prayers in school, as long as the childeren can choose to participate or not, and are not penalized in any way, fine (except for the mead part :) Childeren can be very cruel to each other. The public school system (lots of kids together, few adults, everyone see's each other's scores, etc.) aggrivates that. My kids (if I ever have any) will be taught at home.
And how many of us will be oppressed before then, and how many of us will have to die to get our freedoms back afterward.
Even funnier is the fact that those people probably believed that it would work!!
(my point being that people have always believed stupid stuff. I would expect stuff like that in any genuine historical document)
Yes, I know a little about the other myths. (not that much but. . .) I would be very suprised if the original story only ended up in the bible. Plus the fact that the original was not in the same language as what the jews spoke (or anyone else during the exile for that matter) as their languages didn't exist yet.
Curious now, what is the order of creation in some of the other versions?
The others? I agree with them.
Compare if you will the order of things occuring in genisis 1 & 2 to current theories of the formation of the earth.
"And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.": The solar system is a cloud of dust and gas, (without form?) and dark. the dust is too thick, it blocks all outside light.
"Let there be light: and there was light." The sun finally lit, illuminating the dust cloud it was in, It would look like being in thick fog.
"and God divided the light from the darkness." Solar wind starts to thin out the dust enough that it is no longer light on the far side of the earth. Note that the sun and stars are not 'created' until after plants. They would not be visible from the earth until the solar wind cleared out most of the dust. Or possibly until the plants cleared out the atmosphere (think venus like clouds of something)
Plants before animals, ocean life before land life, these are all roughly in the same order as modern science has determined. Oh, and the 'let the earth bring forth' part sounds like evolution to me.
I think that The bible creation story is all that is left of a vision god showed someone of the creation, time compressed at least, and from the perspective of the earth. The guy who saw it didn't really know what he was seeing, and those who wrote it down and put it into the bible generations later were totally clueless about what it was actually describing. Modern science has filled in many of the details that were lost and is a much better description of the same event.
The existance of fossils and strata are simply fact. They exist. Various theories about how and when they formed are not necessarly fact. However they do exist, so any theory that does not provide a way for them to exist is wrong. Simple creationist theories of how the earth was formed rely on 'God is a big practical joker who likes to mess with your head' The God of the bible doesn't do stuff like that. (IMHO)
Dating methods are many, and they all agree too well that the earth is old for any reasonable person to question. (barring the practical joker of course) See here for specifics about the trees.
People who say evolution is not true are either ignorant* of the facts, (this can be fixed through study) or they think that an evolving world is incomaptible with the existance of God, (simply not true, but you do have to drop the medievial interpretations of genisis 1 and 2, and other parts of the bible)and they have personal evidence that he exists.
*I am using ignorant to mean 'don't know', not 'stupid' here!
In english, The photon is not a point, only when it hits something does it act like a point, as it only hits one point. A photon is a weird fuzzy thing that is mostly here, and partly here and over there, but a little bit everywhere else. It interferes with itself because it squeezed through both holes, and because it squished itself through both holes, it's shape (places where it mostly and partly was) changed, and so there are some places that it is more likely to hit, and some places that it can't hit.
Commit offences to any religion? What are you smoking? You can't avoid offending everybody no matter what you do. God in government? You offend the atheists. No god in government? You offend the Christian right. Sorry, but you crietria for deciding what is allowed is horribly flawed. It doesn't even allow you to do nothing, let alone something.
The proper criteria is this: The Government cannot take away or grant rights or priveledges based on religious belief or parctice, and cannot regulate or prohibit any religious belief or practice. (save those practices that violate others rights, eg. human sacrifice etc.) Having 'In God We Trust' on our money does not violate any of this, Neither does the 10 commandments in courthouses. Or prayers in schools, as long as grades, graduation eligibility for school office (class prez.) etc. are not predicated on participation (or lack of) in the prayer.
Jefferson was in France when the Constitution was signed. He was not a signer, although he certainly knew what was in it.
That sort of revolution is only possible in poor countries where there is not enough wealth that the government can use to supress the discontented population. There is that kind of wealth in the US, and most of it in the hands of people who want to maintain the status-quo. Corporate America. Discontented people will not be enough here without fair elections, and maby not even then.
It should have served as a red flag that the government was out of control when it started to disarm the people.
Note the past tense.
a) they are very anti-religion (funny, the Founding Fathers weren't) and most people care more about their religion than their freedom. (and usually understand neither.)
b) People are ignorant of history, and the history of politics. Plus, they like voting themselvs money out of the public treasury.
Libertarians need to become less anti-religion (possible without leaving their principals) and work on the education bit. I don't have an answer for the greed bit.
The FF did not intend for there to be any such thing as 'the strong arm of the American military'. Case in point, the Constitution only allows Congress to appropriate funds to the army for 2 years. This is not out of fiscal conscern, there is no time limit on the navy spending. It was their intent that the army be completely disbanded as soon as the war was over. I am not saying that that would be a good idea given modern military tech., but . . .
You mean violated. See the first definition According to the second amendment if I want to own and responsively posess military hardware, the government can't interfere. They do. I recall a TV show about airspeed records. Somebody bought (legally) all of the parts and put together his own jet fighter. The Air Force had a fit. The only reason that his plane wasn't confiscated really was the fact that he crashed and destroyed it.