This week opened up my memories on networking. A fiber bridge at a medical center went down. When we went to look at the equipment, it was a Multimode ST Fiber to AUI adapter.. AUI for gods sake. I'd forgot all about it. The board inside was stamped '91, so it managed to survive 20 years.
I didn't have to supply any information.. I just visited the http://www.windowsupgradeoffer.com/ site, filled out the information. Got the email and code. I ran the program on a Win7 computer (it wasn't even activated). Put in the credit card info. Got the key for 8 and closed the program before it downloaded another copy of 8. I've not tried it on a XP computer to see if it works the same.
Ah, guess I didn't realize Win-Q shows all apps, I'll have to remember that. (Win+X) is nice to get to different admin parts of the computer quick.
What is odd, for how much I type in Linux command lines a day, I liked using previous versions of Windows because I didn't need to use the keyboard as much.
What I hate about the 'charms' bar is it's not reliable to come up. When you're telling a customer over the phone to click then then that, it's easier when the interface responds the same ever time. With the start button > power > shutdown, it was just that. Trying the charms in 8 with a (dumb) customer would be a pain. What I'll probably have them do is CTRL+ALT+DEL > power button on the right bottom.
Personally, since MS will let you get Win8 pro for $16 (google windows upgrade offer and say you bought a computer last month, they don't check), I'd go for it. You'll save about $200 not buying 7 ultimate, and even though 8 is annoying, you can learn or get around it with time.
What you're saying is (and you may not realize it). Don't use a Win 8 device till Microsoft fixes the interface. Essentially like most other MS operating system releases it's the 'Wait for SP1' effect. Hopefully enough people wait for SP1 that Microsoft deals with the biggest complaints.
I went down to Best Buy to try this out. Hey had some Leveno pro tablet thingy, with regular W8 on it.
My answer is 'no', the usability issues do not disappear, some do, but plenty of new ones show up. With touch you get to see how many of the apps don't respond the way a person would expect, or leave you stuck in places clicking the 'home' button on the tablet to start all over again. Windows 8 touch is not anywhere close to prime time, it's going to need another year or two of updates to get rid of all the odd little issues that are still in the product.
You poke at the bottom left corner for the square to pop up and click it. You look for the app you want to open it's not there??? You ask a friend about it... You now know to right click. You right click on the desktop You drag your mouse from the left side of the screen to the right side of the screen to click all apps. You click all apps. The app you want is closer to the left side of the screen now, so you drag your mouse back to the left side and click it. You make a shortcut on your desktop so you don't have to deal with that shit again. You also make a batch file on your desktop containing 'shutdown/r/t 0' rather then poke around to get the shutdown menu to show up.
I'm guessing you are using a different product then I'm running. 'Cause I just described the Windows 8 I am using.
Well that still exists, but in a full screen menu thats easier to use and its where tablet apps run.
.... You do not use windows 8, like windows 95.
A full screen menu is fucking great on a single monitor desktop, where you want to view the menu and read instructions at the same time!!! Go Tabesktop!
What is the major difference between desktops in '95 days and W8 days? Lets see, you open programs, view data, enter data... Um, desktop seems pretty much the same to me. Yes, more of the data is coming via a network port, and the program names are different. Other then that you still SHOULD use them the same, why throw 15+ years of training out the 'windows' (heh pun intended), in a system that generally worked.
I've moved a lot of customers from XP to 7. Most of the time it's been very easy, and there have been few questions, because in general, 7 acts mostly like XP.
With 8 so far, it has not been as easy. Yes, they can do most of what they do, but then something will run into an odd behavior and I get a call. Far more then XP to 7 ever did.
So if there is one thing that 8 is better then 7 at doing it's...
Confusing the living fuck out of Microsoft customers.
If you live in an internet hole then POTS might be your only way. Otherwise I suggest a IP trunk so you don't have to pay long distance. Local telco's still make a lot off long distance.
Most offices run off PBX's, so a POTS line is never exposed in the building, even if it's from the telco and not a VOIP line. Your PBX battery goes down and you're dead either way. I've set a few offices up on IP phones over POE switches. Battery backup on the switch, battery backup on the PBX, and battery backup on the internet and the only reason you'd know the power is out is it's dark and the computers are turning off. The phones still ring.
I suspect this is one of the reasons AT&T isn't in more financial hurt.
Companies use to pay Ma-Bell a lot for long distance (and Bell was good at rounding up in its own favor come billing time). Since the advent of the internet and voip lines, and services like my cable company that has no long distance fees with there telephone service, that has to hurt. Now AT&T has the companies hooked on huge cell bills for their income.
LAND line, as in not radio, wireless, non-physical medium. You don't hear that saying much anymore since such a huge portion of phones aren't on the telephones system copper any more, and that wireless is generally 'good enough'.
Cell phones are expensive for constant talkers. There are many jobs that people talk on their phones a good part of the day, with the added requirement of looking up information at the computer. Only a few crappy services offer unlimited voice for $50 a month. An IP trunk is only $25 a month, which can be shared across a lot of users.
A softphone is an option for someone who sit at there desk, unless they want a handset so they can walk around the office with it. Why not use a cell then? Signal, I've worked in a few industrial shops that acted like Faraday cages to cell signals. Had to use a portable to work on the machine and talk with tech services at the same time.
Also, a lot of companies like to record their employees calls 'for quality assurance purposes'. Now you have a call coming to the corporate PBX via one channel, out to the cell company via another, then to your phone. You can end up with situations of very high latency that way.
Lastly, most desk phone systems these days don't mean it's just a desk phone. The systems I work on you can punch a button and type your cell number in. When you don't answer at your desk, the call follows you to your cell.
With bridged networks the issue does get confused. You can be on the same broadcast domain in the building (switch), across the street (wireless bridge), or 1000 miles away (VPN). But yes, your point still stands. At least he didn't say Internet IP phone.
I do believe that when the sun finally consumes this planet the last HP LaserJet 4 will finally die. Their modern stuff is shit compared to them.
This week opened up my memories on networking. A fiber bridge at a medical center went down. When we went to look at the equipment, it was a Multimode ST Fiber to AUI adapter.. AUI for gods sake. I'd forgot all about it. The board inside was stamped '91, so it managed to survive 20 years.
>I didn't have to supply any information I mean windows key.
I didn't have to supply any information.. I just visited the http://www.windowsupgradeoffer.com/ site, filled out the information. Got the email and code. I ran the program on a Win7 computer (it wasn't even activated). Put in the credit card info. Got the key for 8 and closed the program before it downloaded another copy of 8. I've not tried it on a XP computer to see if it works the same.
Ah, guess I didn't realize Win-Q shows all apps, I'll have to remember that. (Win+X) is nice to get to different admin parts of the computer quick.
What is odd, for how much I type in Linux command lines a day, I liked using previous versions of Windows because I didn't need to use the keyboard as much.
What I hate about the 'charms' bar is it's not reliable to come up. When you're telling a customer over the phone to click then then that, it's easier when the interface responds the same ever time. With the start button > power > shutdown, it was just that. Trying the charms in 8 with a (dumb) customer would be a pain. What I'll probably have them do is CTRL+ALT+DEL > power button on the right bottom.
Personally, since MS will let you get Win8 pro for $16 (google windows upgrade offer and say you bought a computer last month, they don't check), I'd go for it. You'll save about $200 not buying 7 ultimate, and even though 8 is annoying, you can learn or get around it with time.
That and how many people are getting the $16 copies from the windows upgrade offer site and keeping them for later.
You can get an W8pro upgrade copy (up to 5) for $16.32 or so from www.windowsupgradeoffer.com. Worth buying 5 now and selling them for more later.
Information Density. Windows 8 does not have it.
But there is another way to get a 'Start' bar, kind of...
Create a folder with all the shortcuts you need in it. Right click on the Windows bar > Toolbars > New Toolbar, then select that folder.
TaDa! Start menu replacement.
What you're saying is (and you may not realize it). Don't use a Win 8 device till Microsoft fixes the interface. Essentially like most other MS operating system releases it's the 'Wait for SP1' effect. Hopefully enough people wait for SP1 that Microsoft deals with the biggest complaints.
I went down to Best Buy to try this out. Hey had some Leveno pro tablet thingy, with regular W8 on it.
My answer is 'no', the usability issues do not disappear, some do, but plenty of new ones show up. With touch you get to see how many of the apps don't respond the way a person would expect, or leave you stuck in places clicking the 'home' button on the tablet to start all over again. Windows 8 touch is not anywhere close to prime time, it's going to need another year or two of updates to get rid of all the odd little issues that are still in the product.
Or have you forgotten that one STILL needs to go the command line to do things in every single Linux distro?
And because of this a lot of people say 'This is why Linux will never succeed on the desktop!!!11eleventy!!'.
So by that same metric, does this mean that W8 will never succeed on the desktop?
In windows 8 it works more like this...
You poke at the bottom left corner for the square to pop up and click it. /r /t 0' rather then poke around to get the shutdown menu to show up.
You look for the app you want to open it's not there???
You ask a friend about it...
You now know to right click.
You right click on the desktop
You drag your mouse from the left side of the screen to the right side of the screen to click all apps.
You click all apps.
The app you want is closer to the left side of the screen now, so you drag your mouse back to the left side and
click it.
You make a shortcut on your desktop so you don't have to deal with that shit again.
You also make a batch file on your desktop containing 'shutdown
I'm guessing you are using a different product then I'm running. 'Cause I just described the Windows 8 I am using.
Well that still exists, but in a full screen menu thats easier to use and its where tablet apps run.
.... You do not use windows 8, like windows 95.
A full screen menu is fucking great on a single monitor desktop, where you want to view the menu and read instructions at the same time!!! Go Tabesktop!
What is the major difference between desktops in '95 days and W8 days? Lets see, you open programs, view data, enter data... Um, desktop seems pretty much the same to me. Yes, more of the data is coming via a network port, and the program names are different. Other then that you still SHOULD use them the same, why throw 15+ years of training out the 'windows' (heh pun intended), in a system that generally worked.
Windows 8 is better than 7 in every way.
I've moved a lot of customers from XP to 7. Most of the time it's been very easy, and there have been few questions, because in general, 7 acts mostly like XP.
With 8 so far, it has not been as easy. Yes, they can do most of what they do, but then something will run into an odd behavior and I get a call. Far more then XP to 7 ever did.
So if there is one thing that 8 is better then 7 at doing it's...
Confusing the living fuck out of Microsoft customers.
Yea, even though I use Asterisks no SLA and there reasons behind it is very annoying.
If you live in an internet hole then POTS might be your only way. Otherwise I suggest a IP trunk so you don't have to pay long distance. Local telco's still make a lot off long distance.
Most offices run off PBX's, so a POTS line is never exposed in the building, even if it's from the telco and not a VOIP line. Your PBX battery goes down and you're dead either way. I've set a few offices up on IP phones over POE switches. Battery backup on the switch, battery backup on the PBX, and battery backup on the internet and the only reason you'd know the power is out is it's dark and the computers are turning off. The phones still ring.
Someone has a lack of bandwidth or processing power.
The United States. Please laugh these jackass providers that own us out of this country.
I suspect this is one of the reasons AT&T isn't in more financial hurt.
Companies use to pay Ma-Bell a lot for long distance (and Bell was good at rounding up in its own favor come billing time). Since the advent of the internet and voip lines, and services like my cable company that has no long distance fees with there telephone service, that has to hurt. Now AT&T has the companies hooked on huge cell bills for their income.
LAND line, as in not radio, wireless, non-physical medium. You don't hear that saying much anymore since such a huge portion of phones aren't on the telephones system copper any more, and that wireless is generally 'good enough'.
An IP phone would use a LAN line :P
> 5. Money
Cell phones are expensive for constant talkers. There are many jobs that people talk on their phones a good part of the day, with the added requirement of looking up information at the computer. Only a few crappy services offer unlimited voice for $50 a month. An IP trunk is only $25 a month, which can be shared across a lot of users.
A softphone is an option for someone who sit at there desk, unless they want a handset so they can walk around the office with it. Why not use a cell then? Signal, I've worked in a few industrial shops that acted like Faraday cages to cell signals. Had to use a portable to work on the machine and talk with tech services at the same time.
Also, a lot of companies like to record their employees calls 'for quality assurance purposes'. Now you have a call coming to the corporate PBX via one channel, out to the cell company via another, then to your phone. You can end up with situations of very high latency that way.
Lastly, most desk phone systems these days don't mean it's just a desk phone. The systems I work on you can punch a button and type your cell number in. When you don't answer at your desk, the call follows you to your cell.
With bridged networks the issue does get confused. You can be on the same broadcast domain in the building (switch), across the street (wireless bridge), or 1000 miles away (VPN). But yes, your point still stands. At least he didn't say Internet IP phone.
You don't live in a location where your boss can fuck you out of overtime.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2008/10/new-california.html