How does one gain being right or lawful? Since when is the law always right?
I'd rather be right and unlawful then lawful and wrong. History has many examples of injustice where people have upheld the law now matter how much suffering it caused mankind.
Core wise, Win 8 seems better then Win 7 and there are a number of 'real' benchmarks out there to show the cases. I have to say the evaluation hasn't made my PC any slower or used any more ram then 7. Really they did improve on 7 and make it better... other then this Metro thing that is a backwards step on desktops.
Isn't being 'stuck in your ways' the point of continuing to use Windows? I know a good number of people who got unstuck in their ways and moved to OSX about the time Vista came out. Microsoft stands to lose as much as they gain from that thinking. Maybe a new Mac to compliment that iPad you have, rather then a new Surface to compliment the Win8 PC you bought.
It's not that 'Metro' can't be figured out, it's that Metro is a backward step in usability on the desktop. Here is an example I posted on another site...
"You are surfing the web and click to read a PDF file. It opens the 'metro' default PDF viewer which takes up the entire screen (no viewing the webpage and pdf unless you have multi-monitors). When you are done reading the pdf, what do you do now? There is no X. You can use the hot spot in the upper left to go back to the desktop, but the pdf doesn't close. Or you can ALT+F4 which closes the PDF viewer, but now you are at the metro interface not your original webpage so you have to take an extra step of going back to the desktop."
How the defaults work out of the box are very different from what people are used to. Yea, you can install foxit/adobe and default that, but that first impression of suck is going to stick.
Met an old person who had one. It would drive me crazy if I had to use it, but it did everything they needed. Pictures, documents, internet surfing all worked and they didn't have to worry about Windows viruses.
I think arguing cheap labor would be the wrong point in mining (each huge mining truck is insanely expensive). Being able to dump their sludge in the closest hole without anyone caring would be the big issue. It's closer to America in its mining heydays, dig up what you want, leave the rest for everyone else to deal with in pollution, poisoning, or dangerous holes in the ground.
Irrational posts always seem to get modded up, crazy.
We have to start here... Linux is not an operating system, it is a kernel. Windows is an operating system, but also an ecosystem that is fully controlled by Microsoft. Linus wanted a free kernel that wouldn't get taken over by commercial interests and forked to a million pieces like Unix at the time. Windows entire design history has been to grow for commercial gain, Wiindows is not free, it is licensed at a cost. Linux was not designed as a desktop operating system, it's not an operating system, and is not sold as one on the level that Torvalds operates at. Windows is designed as a desktop operating system and is sold as on at that level. Linux has never had software monopoly on its product (and is designed to prevent that). Windows is it's own monopoly (just like Apple is their own). It used its power to force OEMs to install Windows on all computers they sold, or they would lose OEM pricing.
Comparing Openstack to Linux to Windows is a irrational. It is a totally different market, Openstack is 'competing' in a market with choice. If you don't like openstack you can roll your own, or whatever. You couldn't do that with windows. So your entire premise is backwards. Windows controlled by Bill Gates and Microsoft dominated the industry. Apple, when led by the iron fist of Steve Jobs dominated in their products.
I'm not sure if Or'a'hole (I don't like them much) messed with their version to get it to lock up, but it's possible. For some reason it sound like the GUI isn't doing mirror selection correctly.
If you wanted your workstation to act more like Windows you would disable the GUI updater and just have yum update everything after your backup script ran.
If you keep checking on the computer and reboot it. Most WSUS setups don't tell the computer to reboot until after hours so Susie Spreadsheet doesn't loose her work. At that rate it could take a few days for everything to install.
It's still very easy to navigate the new UI with a keyboard and mouse.
How about just a mouse? I didn't think so, if you want to get stuff done as quick as windows 7 you have to short cut somewhere, on the desktop or in metro, or you have to use a quick key. The mouse travel distance in metro is just awful. Right clicking to see all your apps where you have to travel from the left to the right side of the screen is just bad design, why isn't 'all apps' also on the left hand side?
It's not that W8 is broken, or that it doesn't work. It's that bad design pisses off users who are used to W7 or XP.
It was lucky for Apple because they also had a vision. Or to put it another way, it didn't matter how cheap touch screens and mobiles got because Microsoft was too busy trying to stick a full blown crap OS on mobile and everyone else was making a different OS for each damn model of phone that came out. Before Apple, there was a pretty good chance whatever touch screen device you had was a dead end of some type and the manufacture wouldn't continue to put out updates for very long, or the next version could be completely different.
I agree with your points, and to add, Windows 8 Metro adds more 'hidden' information.
I always hated the single mouse button on Macs, but it required them to design the interface much better. You had to see the option on the screen to click it. There was none of the 'right click here' to find hidden information. Why do we right click in metro to get to 'All Apps'? Why isn't it just a choice in the list by default? Why to we have to poke around in the right (a real pain in the ass on multi-monitor setups too) to find the metro menu with no other clue it's there? Why is the power down button hidden on the left corner under settings?? Settings what the bloody hell does Shutdown have to do with settings?
Why are they making it seem like the OS is more than just a platform to run your apps?
Fear.
People buy Windows computers because they need Windows to run their programs. When the programs run anywhere on anything Microsoft's days of domination are over, and they know it.. and it scares them. Microsoft got to where they are because they set the rules to the OEMs, the prices to everyone. They dominated the office, they even controlled what the hardware manufactures would make due to the size of their market.
Right now they have to try as hard as they can to keep you remember that WINDOWS IS IMPORTANT!. Because if you forget and think Apple is pretty cool, or Android works, or even this Firefox does what I need then they lose more of the control they had.
I'm a power user, sysadmin, and many other things. I learned how to use Macs, iOS, Android, many different Linux interfaces. I've used from DOS 5 and up and just about every version of Windows you can imagine. I can't say I refuse to learn anything.
I'd have to say that Microsoft has the biggest issue with 'why'. If you want to learn about why I'd study the history of Apple UI design. They are so much better at it that Microsoft ends up in court copying their ideas every few years.
Metro is a poor desktop interface. It does not meet the needs of a multitasking environment. It actively interrupts workflow. It requires more steps or more 'travel time' to get the same task done compared to previous versions. It hides important information without any visual identifiers on how to reveal it. When you edit the metro screen it gives poor visual indicators of what is occurring or that you are in editing mode.
Metro is not designed for the desktop, it is not better for the desktop, it is not about the desktop. This is about tablets and phones, desktop be damned.
Don't get me wrong, there is a lot to like about Windows 8, but the take over an entire screen interface is not one of them.
And you're right, the 'metro' screen is another pretty screen in front of what you need. After taking years of getting the start menu to behave like regular folders and shortcuts, Microsoft again has broke it so your desktop looks like a phone : /
It's not only a OS that's much easier to use from a keyboard, it's almost one you HAVE to use from the keyboard, if you want to get things done as quickly.
The W7 start menu took a lot less mouse movement to get to what you need. Click the left hand corner, go up if your app is already in the list, mouse over all programs and find it if it's not.
W8 starts in the left hand corner edge, somewhere on any point of the screen is your icon, if it is not, you must right click, go the the RIGHT side of the screen and click all apps, now that all apps are showing you have to find your app, which may be back on the left side of the screen. It's like a race to see how much mileage I can put on my cursor. If you want to get it done quickly Win+W or Win+R are needed.
This isn't anti-microsoft hate, I like W7 just fine. And Yes, I've been using W8 for some time now, and have the enterprise evaluation running right now.
Windows 8 is a good OS overshadowed by a poor interface that unnecessarily creates more steps and gets in the way when unneeded on a desktop computer.
A: Why let Intel 'win' so they can turn around and stuff higher prices clean up your backside? One supplier markers are best for the supplier.
B: Anti-trust. Once you start taking over entire markets all of a sudden you have even more government flashlights up your ass. Only a dumb person wants total control unless he has TOTAL CONTROL, otherwise powers stronger then you take too much interest in your daily work.
Err, Jesus man do you work for the telephone company? I swear to god each one of them has a little tiny job they know how to do and all other information is kept from them. Paperwork has to be filed for them to talk to any other person.
Anyway, this article isn't about any of this shit you just stated. It's just stating that sysadmins that know how to code notice problems faster and give better bug reports.. He doesn't even have to 'solve' them, he can pass that information on to the people that do.
Yes, it is the Sysadmin's job to figure out the code is broke, knowing how to program can tell you when there is a 'program' problem verses a hardware or network problem. You can then give better test cases and problem reports to the developers which allow the problem to be fixed faster.
Really this isn't any different then any other job out there. Lets say your a truck driver and your truck isn't working right. If you know very little about the internal workings of engines you'd tell the machine shop that 'there is a problem' or 'it's not running right'. If you had a good idea of the operation and components of the engine and drivetrain it is very likely you could give a better bug report 'it's not shifting at 4k rpm, possibly due to loss of vacuum'. Little details like that can save hours of 'fucking with it' to figure out what the issue is.
Really this article is kind of a 'duh', how surprising is it that having more knowledge of how a system works makes you better at working on that system.
"Hey doc... I can smell Uranus!" "Oh, I'm sorry Fry, scientists renamed Uranus years ago to rid the earth of that stupid joke once and for all. Now it's called Urectum!"
Oh, and proper grounding. And proper. Fucking. Grounding.
It would scare you to see how many residences I've been to that the grounding has become ineffective with time, or grounding that works ok in the wet season but is ineffective in the dry season. Resistance to ground can be a bitch.
Laser CNC machines cut all the time without fires, until there is a fire. Lots of fabric, paper, plastics and coatings go through a laser cutter.
Hundreds of workshop fires start per year because people don't keep their workspace clean. If you are using a high power thermal cutter you better make damn sure that you clear out all particulate, scrap, melt, and loose material. Also giving the machine a check every few days to see heat damage buildup and replace what's going wrong is a good way to keep your shop from burning. This goes for any kind of tool that uses fire, electricity, or creates heat friction.
Thermal warping of metal can turn cheap simple things difficult. Burning thru the entire sheet of MDO takes a long time. Just take a torch to any 1/2" sheet of wood product. A solid sheet of MDO on the bottom would keep the fire from falling thru for a long time. The edges separating would be the biggest danger. The choice of plexiglass for the windows would effect the flammability of the unit more. Proper fire detection and a safety zone around any heat/flame/spark generating unit are what determines if your workshop burns down. Exhaust to the outside should be a given on any product that uses high heat to vaporize materials, think of the volatiles you're breathing.
The wood base may or may not be a con as stated elsewhere from thermal expansion issues. The would base should also be pretty easily replaceable too. There are products like timbersilwood.com that infuse wood with a glass matrix making them pretty flame retardant too, much less likely to be toxic then the chemicals in flame retardants and paint.
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How does one gain being right or lawful? Since when is the law always right?
I'd rather be right and unlawful then lawful and wrong. History has many examples of injustice where people have upheld the law now matter how much suffering it caused mankind.
Core wise, Win 8 seems better then Win 7 and there are a number of 'real' benchmarks out there to show the cases. I have to say the evaluation hasn't made my PC any slower or used any more ram then 7. Really they did improve on 7 and make it better... other then this Metro thing that is a backwards step on desktops.
Isn't being 'stuck in your ways' the point of continuing to use Windows? I know a good number of people who got unstuck in their ways and moved to OSX about the time Vista came out. Microsoft stands to lose as much as they gain from that thinking. Maybe a new Mac to compliment that iPad you have, rather then a new Surface to compliment the Win8 PC you bought.
It's not that 'Metro' can't be figured out, it's that Metro is a backward step in usability on the desktop. Here is an example I posted on another site...
"You are surfing the web and click to read a PDF file. It opens the 'metro' default PDF viewer which takes up the entire screen (no viewing the webpage and pdf unless you have multi-monitors). When you are done reading the pdf, what do you do now? There is no X. You can use the hot spot in the upper left to go back to the desktop, but the pdf doesn't close. Or you can ALT+F4 which closes the PDF viewer, but now you are at the metro interface not your original webpage so you have to take an extra step of going back to the desktop."
How the defaults work out of the box are very different from what people are used to. Yea, you can install foxit/adobe and default that, but that first impression of suck is going to stick.
I would guess it wouldn't be too much different then one of these
http://www.amazon.com/Telikin-Elite-Touchscreen-Computer-Processor/dp/B005T3XEHE
Met an old person who had one. It would drive me crazy if I had to use it, but it did everything they needed. Pictures, documents, internet surfing all worked and they didn't have to worry about Windows viruses.
I think arguing cheap labor would be the wrong point in mining (each huge mining truck is insanely expensive). Being able to dump their sludge in the closest hole without anyone caring would be the big issue. It's closer to America in its mining heydays, dig up what you want, leave the rest for everyone else to deal with in pollution, poisoning, or dangerous holes in the ground.
Irrational posts always seem to get modded up, crazy.
We have to start here... Linux is not an operating system, it is a kernel.
Windows is an operating system, but also an ecosystem that is fully controlled by Microsoft.
Linus wanted a free kernel that wouldn't get taken over by commercial interests and forked to a million pieces like Unix at the time.
Windows entire design history has been to grow for commercial gain, Wiindows is not free, it is licensed at a cost.
Linux was not designed as a desktop operating system, it's not an operating system, and is not sold as one on the level that Torvalds operates at.
Windows is designed as a desktop operating system and is sold as on at that level.
Linux has never had software monopoly on its product (and is designed to prevent that).
Windows is it's own monopoly (just like Apple is their own). It used its power to force OEMs to install Windows on all computers they sold, or they would lose OEM pricing.
Comparing Openstack to Linux to Windows is a irrational. It is a totally different market, Openstack is 'competing' in a market with choice. If you don't like openstack you can roll your own, or whatever. You couldn't do that with windows. So your entire premise is backwards. Windows controlled by Bill Gates and Microsoft dominated the industry. Apple, when led by the iron fist of Steve Jobs dominated in their products.
And frankly, the 360 is looking a little long in the tooth.
Compared to what? A new PC that's going to run a copy of... Microsoft Windows?
You don't have to to run fast if no one else is running fast in the market either.
I'm not sure if Or'a'hole (I don't like them much) messed with their version to get it to lock up, but it's possible. For some reason it sound like the GUI isn't doing mirror selection correctly.
If you wanted your workstation to act more like Windows you would disable the GUI updater and just have yum update everything after your backup script ran.
If you keep checking on the computer and reboot it. Most WSUS setups don't tell the computer to reboot until after hours so Susie Spreadsheet doesn't loose her work. At that rate it could take a few days for everything to install.
It's still very easy to navigate the new UI with a keyboard and mouse.
How about just a mouse? I didn't think so, if you want to get stuff done as quick as windows 7 you have to short cut somewhere, on the desktop or in metro, or you have to use a quick key. The mouse travel distance in metro is just awful. Right clicking to see all your apps where you have to travel from the left to the right side of the screen is just bad design, why isn't 'all apps' also on the left hand side?
It's not that W8 is broken, or that it doesn't work. It's that bad design pisses off users who are used to W7 or XP.
It was lucky for Apple because they also had a vision. Or to put it another way, it didn't matter how cheap touch screens and mobiles got because Microsoft was too busy trying to stick a full blown crap OS on mobile and everyone else was making a different OS for each damn model of phone that came out. Before Apple, there was a pretty good chance whatever touch screen device you had was a dead end of some type and the manufacture wouldn't continue to put out updates for very long, or the next version could be completely different.
Vision. Apple had it, now MS is copying it.
Shutdown your windows 8 computer and tell me how intuitive it is.
I agree with your points, and to add, Windows 8 Metro adds more 'hidden' information.
I always hated the single mouse button on Macs, but it required them to design the interface much better. You had to see the option on the screen to click it. There was none of the 'right click here' to find hidden information. Why do we right click in metro to get to 'All Apps'? Why isn't it just a choice in the list by default? Why to we have to poke around in the right (a real pain in the ass on multi-monitor setups too) to find the metro menu with no other clue it's there? Why is the power down button hidden on the left corner under settings?? Settings what the bloody hell does Shutdown have to do with settings?
Why are they making it seem like the OS is more than just a platform to run your apps?
Fear.
People buy Windows computers because they need Windows to run their programs. When the programs run anywhere on anything Microsoft's days of domination are over, and they know it.. and it scares them. Microsoft got to where they are because they set the rules to the OEMs, the prices to everyone. They dominated the office, they even controlled what the hardware manufactures would make due to the size of their market.
Right now they have to try as hard as they can to keep you remember that WINDOWS IS IMPORTANT!. Because if you forget and think Apple is pretty cool, or Android works, or even this Firefox does what I need then they lose more of the control they had.
I'm a power user, sysadmin, and many other things. I learned how to use Macs, iOS, Android, many different Linux interfaces. I've used from DOS 5 and up and just about every version of Windows you can imagine. I can't say I refuse to learn anything.
I'd have to say that Microsoft has the biggest issue with 'why'. If you want to learn about why I'd study the history of Apple UI design. They are so much better at it that Microsoft ends up in court copying their ideas every few years.
Metro is a poor desktop interface. It does not meet the needs of a multitasking environment. It actively interrupts workflow. It requires more steps or more 'travel time' to get the same task done compared to previous versions. It hides important information without any visual identifiers on how to reveal it. When you edit the metro screen it gives poor visual indicators of what is occurring or that you are in editing mode.
Metro is not designed for the desktop, it is not better for the desktop, it is not about the desktop. This is about tablets and phones, desktop be damned.
Don't get me wrong, there is a lot to like about Windows 8, but the take over an entire screen interface is not one of them.
Don't buy it. You can use the enterprise evaluation for 90 at no cost.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/jj554510.aspx
And you're right, the 'metro' screen is another pretty screen in front of what you need. After taking years of getting the start menu to behave like regular folders and shortcuts, Microsoft again has broke it so your desktop looks like a phone : /
It's not only a OS that's much easier to use from a keyboard, it's almost one you HAVE to use from the keyboard, if you want to get things done as quickly.
The W7 start menu took a lot less mouse movement to get to what you need. Click the left hand corner, go up if your app is already in the list, mouse over all programs and find it if it's not.
W8 starts in the left hand corner edge, somewhere on any point of the screen is your icon, if it is not, you must right click, go the the RIGHT side of the screen and click all apps, now that all apps are showing you have to find your app, which may be back on the left side of the screen. It's like a race to see how much mileage I can put on my cursor. If you want to get it done quickly Win+W or Win+R are needed.
This isn't anti-microsoft hate, I like W7 just fine. And Yes, I've been using W8 for some time now, and have the enterprise evaluation running right now.
Windows 8 is a good OS overshadowed by a poor interface that unnecessarily creates more steps and gets in the way when unneeded on a desktop computer.
You are forgetting 2 non technical matters.
A: Why let Intel 'win' so they can turn around and stuff higher prices clean up your backside? One supplier markers are best for the supplier.
B: Anti-trust. Once you start taking over entire markets all of a sudden you have even more government flashlights up your ass. Only a dumb person wants total control unless he has TOTAL CONTROL, otherwise powers stronger then you take too much interest in your daily work.
Err, Jesus man do you work for the telephone company? I swear to god each one of them has a little tiny job they know how to do and all other information is kept from them. Paperwork has to be filed for them to talk to any other person.
Anyway, this article isn't about any of this shit you just stated. It's just stating that sysadmins that know how to code notice problems faster and give better bug reports.. He doesn't even have to 'solve' them, he can pass that information on to the people that do.
Yes, it is the Sysadmin's job to figure out the code is broke, knowing how to program can tell you when there is a 'program' problem verses a hardware or network problem. You can then give better test cases and problem reports to the developers which allow the problem to be fixed faster.
Really this isn't any different then any other job out there. Lets say your a truck driver and your truck isn't working right. If you know very little about the internal workings of engines you'd tell the machine shop that 'there is a problem' or 'it's not running right'. If you had a good idea of the operation and components of the engine and drivetrain it is very likely you could give a better bug report 'it's not shifting at 4k rpm, possibly due to loss of vacuum'. Little details like that can save hours of 'fucking with it' to figure out what the issue is.
Really this article is kind of a 'duh', how surprising is it that having more knowledge of how a system works makes you better at working on that system.
"Hey doc... I can smell Uranus!"
"Oh, I'm sorry Fry, scientists renamed Uranus years ago to rid the earth of that stupid joke once and for all. Now it's called Urectum!"
Oh, and proper grounding. And proper. Fucking. Grounding.
It would scare you to see how many residences I've been to that the grounding has become ineffective with time, or grounding that works ok in the wet season but is ineffective in the dry season. Resistance to ground can be a bitch.
Laser CNC machines cut all the time without fires, until there is a fire. Lots of fabric, paper, plastics and coatings go through a laser cutter.
Hundreds of workshop fires start per year because people don't keep their workspace clean. If you are using a high power thermal cutter you better make damn sure that you clear out all particulate, scrap, melt, and loose material. Also giving the machine a check every few days to see heat damage buildup and replace what's going wrong is a good way to keep your shop from burning. This goes for any kind of tool that uses fire, electricity, or creates heat friction.
Thermal warping of metal can turn cheap simple things difficult. Burning thru the entire sheet of MDO takes a long time. Just take a torch to any 1/2" sheet of wood product. A solid sheet of MDO on the bottom would keep the fire from falling thru for a long time. The edges separating would be the biggest danger. The choice of plexiglass for the windows would effect the flammability of the unit more. Proper fire detection and a safety zone around any heat/flame/spark generating unit are what determines if your workshop burns down. Exhaust to the outside should be a given on any product that uses high heat to vaporize materials, think of the volatiles you're breathing.
The wood base may or may not be a con as stated elsewhere from thermal expansion issues. The would base should also be pretty easily replaceable too. There are products like timbersilwood.com that infuse wood with a glass matrix making them pretty flame retardant too, much less likely to be toxic then the chemicals in flame retardants and paint.