... are crap. While I enjoyed FTL and thought it was one of the few indie games worth anything. Most indie games are worse then NES/SNES/PC games from 20 years ago.
The reality is the middle market for game development is coming back via kickstarter and indie games were really mostly smaller developers attempt to push mostly crapware on a gullible consumer base that will eat garbage if they propagandize properly via popular gaming sites.
The internet is a bizarre echochamber of gullible morons when it comes to gaming and you especially see this with how games have become homogenized as they've gotten more popular with the masses. For us expert gamers, gaming has really gone to shit everything has become lowest common denominator. Oldsters like myself hope to see a bit of a renewal of more complex games via kickstarter but most of us older geeks are taking a wait and see approach to see how it will all pan out given the limited funds for projects like PA.
It wasn't a point at all. I wouldn't have made the comment if I hadn't felt the urge but do the thing in question a million times but to the lack of feature to flag 'insightful' posts as false. The point is NOT to metamod, it's to have expert members flag false "insight". You have meta moderation + expert members flagging badly modded posts to warn other members of its low quality.
Say you have +5 insightful bullshit post, but you being 1 mod do not want to get into a war with the ignorant masses, so you being an expert member are capable of flagging the post as 'incorrect/false/likelybullshit', this is the whole point of color coding the post.
Meta-moderating isn't enough since it is unreliable, especially dealing with youth cohorts (i.e. teens have more free time then adults). You see this especially on politically based posts. Meta-moderating relies on whoever has the energy/time to meta-moderate. There is no guarantee informed people exist in sufficient enough numbers to counter the uninformed because of simple laws of the universe - i.e. the more complex and nuanced you need to be to judge something, the rarer you are in a given population.
... is 'super members' of the community that have proven their knowledge, there is too much bullshit getting modded insightful when it is outright incorrect. I'd like to see slashdot select logged in moderators get the ability to mark false insightful posts as 'false/incorrect' and turn that posters post a different color.
The amount of disinformation from either youth, the uninformed, trolls, or paid hacks to disrupt intelligent discussion on the internet is something I've grown increasingly weary of. It seems increasingly difficult to have intelligent discussions online. There are people who DO KNOW and understand the world at a higher level then most posters on slashdot and these people could help guide discussions when these forces of stupid / distortion appear.
"the only parts of the law that matter are the ones the legislators want to matter"
You already have this in spades. I sometimes wonder if anyone is paying attention. Copyright extension is just one of the few laws that have already gutted the constitution.
At this point in time the constitution is largely just a piece of paper since human beings thought processes do not work properly. Most thought is unconscious:
"It is not a matter of laziness. A gym membership is expensive,"
He's not serious about losing weight, take it from someone who used to say things like the OP. I had to find inspiration in this guy to finally get it:
"If a company has a large group of willing customers, who are you to say they're stupid fucks?"
If a society ha a large group of slaves who want to be slaves, who are you to say they are stupid? Look objectively a game you don't own and is in control of a company and can and will shut it down sometime in the future when you fucking pay for it is DISGUSTING. The idea you'd support such stupid shit is disturbing.
There are so many older games that have been deliberately broken because the company can just shut it down, so yes stupid people who support such things are in fact fucking stupid.
The problem with this idea is that SC2 was a bog-standard copy of SC1 in terms of it's multiplayer, i.e. multiplayer was severely conservative with not much new in it. This conservatism ALSO influenced heavily the single player. The SP campaign of SC2 was just not very good at all, I was expecting ground breaking stuff from a company that made a ground breaking RTS that set the standard.
Hahah, the reality is they are more intelligent then anonymous retards like you. That's why they are NERDS they have standards. Rather then playing fucking Call of duty 12 that requires only chimp level intelligence.
"Don't play multiplayer then? I really don't see the issue here,"
Then you don't understand the lack of creative freedom multiplayer adds to RTS. It prevents ANY kind of innovation since you design the game with multiplayer conservatism first. So you can't do anything too 'radical' even if it adds more fun. Think of how Starcraft 1 became an 'e-sport' in korea, it's actually starcraft multiplayers popularity that is it's achilles heel.
"However, calling it a "Bill of Rights" makes you look like some entitled idiot..."
It's garbage posts like this that really make me hate slashdot. The that the customer is ENTITLED because he wants to own a game and doesn't believe in the bullshit con-artist laws related to copyright and "licensing". "IP laws" were not made in the public interest but dicks like you in america love corporate dick in your god damn mouth. Just laws would force companies to make offline patches for their games after a year or so. The idea that companies can CONFISCATE software you PAID FOR under the rubric of "software as a service" or other "IP law" bullshit like software licensing is garbage. Games are different from other software in that customers actually USE and care about the cultural work in question. Imagine movie companies had the power to stop you from watching old movies. The fucking CULT LIKE IDEA that games should be licensed like other software is bullshit. Games are fundamentally different.
I really despise this idea that it is the CUSTOMER who is entitled when it's god damn treated business people like gods and saints that is the major problem in america.
Diablo 3 sold 10 million copies, the idea of a boycott at this point is DELUSIONAL, not to mention STEAM which is pretty damn offensive and yet more and more people bow down before gabe. It sucks watching all these addicts fuck up gaming. There are too many stupid fucks.
"Exactly ONE person paid the $5 "donation" for it."
Then you didn't do your marketing research. The idea that just because you make a program people will value it enough to pay for is laughable. There's plenty of programs people willingly pay for. If there wasn't no paid for apps would exist. You just happened to make software a paying audience didn't want.
"Because that is the truth. You don't own a copy of it,"
The whole idea of software licensing is suspect to begin with since it took advantage of public ignorance of technology. The whole idea of licensing is con-artistry.
I think the problem with interplay was just they were too ahead of their time in a sense, many of the things the game industry has learned (dumbing down, storytelling) it was largely the non-game things driving mass market sales which kinda sucks. Since many older games were videogames first, story/action movie second. In modern games its the reverse.
The thing I'm a bit skeptical about is many of these people have been in the woods for a while (away from making those kinds of games) and I wonder if they still have it in them.
"but it seems like in some ways it's easier to kickstart these things than it is to get people to buy a published game that's already been through the development process."
The opposite is true, publishers stopped making games like this because the market was not deemed big enough so there's all this pent up demand because publishers thumbed their noses at the people who put them on the map.
Interplay had a few bad flops and went out of business even though they made some of the best classic games. Interplay was behind Descent, Freespace 1 + 2. Games you'd not see today. Not to mention all the awesome stuff they did by releasing the source code for D1+D2 and Freespace. Totally unheard of today with modern games and their locked down nature.
The problem isn't with the laws, even if you fixed the laws there's no way it's enforceable. If you're not on facebook but your sister is and your sister inputs data that links back to you. It's trivial to gather more when other indirectly leave breadcrumbs. When people publicly expose themselves on the net they don't fully grasp what that means technologically. So although YOU might be careful with your data other people can expose you indirectly so it becomes unenforceable very quickly.
... and the likes of stupid tech illiterate people. Look at how willingly people put their public data online on facebook and linkedin, etc. The whole idea of privacy is something that can't be put back in the box. It only takes one stupid person who doesn't understand technology to post a pic or say something on facebook to reveal something about you directly or indirectly.
Now especially with the likes of google and others having developed techniques to identify people from non-anoymous and pseudononymous data. Google's whole business revolves around identifying you and things about you to advertise to you. Hell even your IP address + a few tweaks is enough to identify and/or narrow down who you are massively for most users.
What a bunch of bullshit. Perhaps if you knew anything about the wealth distribution in america you'd know otherwise.
The top bar is the ACTUAL distribution of wealth in america. Notice the next 40 getting a tiny bit and the bottom 40% getting next to nothing, so small is what they are paid they don't even register. This is real time slavery via the wage system.
Most people don't understand it's a matter of customer base (population size) and where you are in history, such salaries would be impossible in smaller societies. These exorbitant sums of money are artifacts of scale and historically large customer bases by which executives can exploit given their privileged position in society and history.
Slashdot Mirror
"But for the rest: very little abuse of power."
That you know about.
... are crap. While I enjoyed FTL and thought it was one of the few indie games worth anything. Most indie games are worse then NES/SNES/PC games from 20 years ago.
The reality is the middle market for game development is coming back via kickstarter and indie games were really mostly smaller developers attempt to push mostly crapware on a gullible consumer base that will eat garbage if they propagandize properly via popular gaming sites.
The internet is a bizarre echochamber of gullible morons when it comes to gaming and you especially see this with how games have become homogenized as they've gotten more popular with the masses. For us expert gamers, gaming has really gone to shit everything has become lowest common denominator. Oldsters like myself hope to see a bit of a renewal of more complex games via kickstarter but most of us older geeks are taking a wait and see approach to see how it will all pan out given the limited funds for projects like PA.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/659943965/planetary-annihilation-a-next-generation-rts
"That's my snarky point."
It wasn't a point at all. I wouldn't have made the comment if I hadn't felt the urge but do the thing in question a million times but to the lack of feature to flag 'insightful' posts as false. The point is NOT to metamod, it's to have expert members flag false "insight". You have meta moderation + expert members flagging badly modded posts to warn other members of its low quality.
Say you have +5 insightful bullshit post, but you being 1 mod do not want to get into a war with the ignorant masses, so you being an expert member are capable of flagging the post as 'incorrect/false/likelybullshit', this is the whole point of color coding the post.
Meta-moderating isn't enough since it is unreliable, especially dealing with youth cohorts (i.e. teens have more free time then adults). You see this especially on politically based posts. Meta-moderating relies on whoever has the energy/time to meta-moderate. There is no guarantee informed people exist in sufficient enough numbers to counter the uninformed because of simple laws of the universe - i.e. the more complex and nuanced you need to be to judge something, the rarer you are in a given population.
... is 'super members' of the community that have proven their knowledge, there is too much bullshit getting modded insightful when it is outright incorrect. I'd like to see slashdot select logged in moderators get the ability to mark false insightful posts as 'false/incorrect' and turn that posters post a different color.
The amount of disinformation from either youth, the uninformed, trolls, or paid hacks to disrupt intelligent discussion on the internet is something I've grown increasingly weary of. It seems increasingly difficult to have intelligent discussions online. There are people who DO KNOW and understand the world at a higher level then most posters on slashdot and these people could help guide discussions when these forces of stupid / distortion appear.
http://consciouslifenews.com/paid-internet-shill-shadowy-groups-manipulate-internet-opinion-debate/1147073/
"the only parts of the law that matter are the ones the legislators want to matter"
You already have this in spades. I sometimes wonder if anyone is paying attention. Copyright extension is just one of the few laws that have already gutted the constitution.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Extension_Act
At this point in time the constitution is largely just a piece of paper since human beings thought processes do not work properly. Most thought is unconscious:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmi0DLzBdQ
"where the fuck did you guys learn your ethics for war?"
War is a racket, there is no ethics. You need to read more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler
You don't understand anything about the public domain. You're just too historically illiterate to grasp my argument.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act
See more here:
http://homepages.law.asu.edu/~dkarjala/opposingcopyrightextension/default.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain
"It is not a matter of laziness. A gym membership is expensive,"
He's not serious about losing weight, take it from someone who used to say things like the OP. I had to find inspiration in this guy to finally get it:
http://www.johnstonefitness.com/
I just needed a mentor and inspiration that it can be done. i.e. learning from those who've successfully transformed themselves.
"If a company has a large group of willing customers, who are you to say they're stupid fucks?"
If a society ha a large group of slaves who want to be slaves, who are you to say they are stupid? Look objectively a game you don't own and is in control of a company and can and will shut it down sometime in the future when you fucking pay for it is DISGUSTING. The idea you'd support such stupid shit is disturbing.
There are so many older games that have been deliberately broken because the company can just shut it down, so yes stupid people who support such things are in fact fucking stupid.
http://adultgamingenthusiasts.com/content.php?448-EA-s-Annual-Server-Shut-Down-List
"Of course you can."
The problem with this idea is that SC2 was a bog-standard copy of SC1 in terms of it's multiplayer, i.e. multiplayer was severely conservative with not much new in it. This conservatism ALSO influenced heavily the single player. The SP campaign of SC2 was just not very good at all, I was expecting ground breaking stuff from a company that made a ground breaking RTS that set the standard.
"Slashnerds are incapable of appreciation"
Hahah, the reality is they are more intelligent then anonymous retards like you. That's why they are NERDS they have standards. Rather then playing fucking Call of duty 12 that requires only chimp level intelligence.
"Don't play multiplayer then?
I really don't see the issue here,"
Then you don't understand the lack of creative freedom multiplayer adds to RTS. It prevents ANY kind of innovation since you design the game with multiplayer conservatism first. So you can't do anything too 'radical' even if it adds more fun. Think of how Starcraft 1 became an 'e-sport' in korea, it's actually starcraft multiplayers popularity that is it's achilles heel.
"However, calling it a "Bill of Rights" makes you look like some entitled idiot..."
It's garbage posts like this that really make me hate slashdot. The that the customer is ENTITLED because he wants to own a game and doesn't believe in the bullshit con-artist laws related to copyright and "licensing". "IP laws" were not made in the public interest but dicks like you in america love corporate dick in your god damn mouth. Just laws would force companies to make offline patches for their games after a year or so. The idea that companies can CONFISCATE software you PAID FOR under the rubric of "software as a service" or other "IP law" bullshit like software licensing is garbage. Games are different from other software in that customers actually USE and care about the cultural work in question. Imagine movie companies had the power to stop you from watching old movies. The fucking CULT LIKE IDEA that games should be licensed like other software is bullshit. Games are fundamentally different.
I really despise this idea that it is the CUSTOMER who is entitled when it's god damn treated business people like gods and saints that is the major problem in america.
"Better off enforcing an EA boycott "
Diablo 3 sold 10 million copies, the idea of a boycott at this point is DELUSIONAL, not to mention STEAM which is pretty damn offensive and yet more and more people bow down before gabe. It sucks watching all these addicts fuck up gaming. There are too many stupid fucks.
Does autodesk 3dstudio or photoshop use the wikipedia model? Do videogames? No and they still sell.
"Exactly ONE person paid the $5 "donation" for it."
Then you didn't do your marketing research. The idea that just because you make a program people will value it enough to pay for is laughable. There's plenty of programs people willingly pay for. If there wasn't no paid for apps would exist. You just happened to make software a paying audience didn't want.
"Because that is the truth. You don't own a copy of it,"
The whole idea of software licensing is suspect to begin with since it took advantage of public ignorance of technology. The whole idea of licensing is con-artistry.
I think the problem with interplay was just they were too ahead of their time in a sense, many of the things the game industry has learned (dumbing down, storytelling) it was largely the non-game things driving mass market sales which kinda sucks. Since many older games were videogames first, story/action movie second. In modern games its the reverse.
The thing I'm a bit skeptical about is many of these people have been in the woods for a while (away from making those kinds of games) and I wonder if they still have it in them.
"but it seems like in some ways it's easier to kickstart these things than it is to get people to buy a published game that's already been through the development process."
The opposite is true, publishers stopped making games like this because the market was not deemed big enough so there's all this pent up demand because publishers thumbed their noses at the people who put them on the map.
Interplay had a few bad flops and went out of business even though they made some of the best classic games. Interplay was behind Descent, Freespace 1 + 2. Games you'd not see today. Not to mention all the awesome stuff they did by releasing the source code for D1+D2 and Freespace. Totally unheard of today with modern games and their locked down nature.
Freespace 2 Open trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhAR8rWPluQ
Dreamfall is no where near loved as much as torment. Dreamfall pretty much missed most gamers radar.
The problem isn't with the laws, even if you fixed the laws there's no way it's enforceable. If you're not on facebook but your sister is and your sister inputs data that links back to you. It's trivial to gather more when other indirectly leave breadcrumbs. When people publicly expose themselves on the net they don't fully grasp what that means technologically. So although YOU might be careful with your data other people can expose you indirectly so it becomes unenforceable very quickly.
... and the likes of stupid tech illiterate people. Look at how willingly people put their public data online on facebook and linkedin, etc. The whole idea of privacy is something that can't be put back in the box. It only takes one stupid person who doesn't understand technology to post a pic or say something on facebook to reveal something about you directly or indirectly.
Now especially with the likes of google and others having developed techniques to identify people from non-anoymous and pseudononymous data. Google's whole business revolves around identifying you and things about you to advertise to you. Hell even your IP address + a few tweaks is enough to identify and/or narrow down who you are massively for most users.
What a bunch of bullshit. Perhaps if you knew anything about the wealth distribution in america you'd know otherwise.
The top bar is the ACTUAL distribution of wealth in america. Notice the next 40 getting a tiny bit and the bottom 40% getting next to nothing, so small is what they are paid they don't even register. This is real time slavery via the wage system.
http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/images/wealth/Actual_estimated_ideal_wealth_distribution.gif
http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html
"The job doesn't justify the salary."
Most people don't understand it's a matter of customer base (population size) and where you are in history, such salaries would be impossible in smaller societies. These exorbitant sums of money are artifacts of scale and historically large customer bases by which executives can exploit given their privileged position in society and history.