"You'll find no end of people who will tell you that you can't do it, you're too old, blah, blah, blah. Forget those people."
That's not a very rational response, one should be honest about ones amount of energy/health and abilities. You'd never say this to someone who is severely autistic would you? Potential + health + energy/work ethic is the equation. If you don't have all three in sufficient quantities you'll just be hurting yourself. We all know lots of people who are incompetent and don't know they are incompetent.
... do not mean malware free computing, it means corporate sponsored malware the user is unaware of and can't get rid of. You people are dense who think walled gardens are going to be a panacea. The good thing about open systems at least is that they are analyzed by lots and lots of eyeballs. Closed systems will let nefarious organizations do whatever they want without your say or your knowledge.
I'm surprised we haven't had an anti-wall-street hero start bombing banks yet.
FTFY. Wanting to hurt those who are hurting others is a sign of health, not a sign of sickness. How fucked up do you have to be to sit there and be crushed by corporate power and watch other people suffer because the political system is jammed by bought and paid politicians?
After watching this you might want to bomb some banks too.
"wow. modern society is truly spiritually dead. if that is what passes for a 'plot'."
Game plots are not just voice acting and text, they have to do with the art design of a world, the game is EXPERIENCED in real time unlike books where the images are made up by each individual and each individual has a different experience of a book.
The doom universe is an interesting one to BE in. We've had story based games with excellent plots that bombed financially because they were not immediately immersive (planescape torment), only those with sufficient intelligence can really enjoy the amount of text torment has to offer (and I was one of them).
Since Torment was basically a book wrapped in baldurs gate engine garb, I can understand why other people didn't like it. People want to be shown the story, not have to read lines of text (as in torment). This is the difference between planescape and Mass effect 1 and 2.
Sigh you missed the point entirely, the point being - the human mind is not good at separating fact from fiction, truth from error, when's the last time you went and had your kids demons thrown out?
Perhaps if you had anything worthy to say besides just knee jerk emotional reaction and being emotionally childish you could come up with something approaching rational thought.
You're missing the point - the point is to pollute discussion and shut down critical thinking and create 'false consensus' that those who are followers will absorb. Critical thinking means undermining and pointing out flaws in all reasoning and propaganda. Since Americans are some of the most brainwashed people on planet earth they are absolute proof of how easy it is to shut down critical thinking and get people like you accepting the party line.
"Because if someone disagrees with you, they're obviously a shill, whereas people who agree with you are champions of truth."
Most people are easily to manipulate, they'd sooner die rather then think. Plus you have no idea what's been discovered about human reasoning. Humans live in their mediocre understanding (model) of the world, not everyone's mind is equally capable of perceiving reality as it truly is. Religion is abundant proof of this.
Matthew 8:30-35 New International Version (NIV)
30 Some distance from them a large herd of pigs was feeding. 31 The demons begged Jesus, “If you drive us out, send us into the herd of pigs.”
32 He said to them, “Go!” So they came out and went into the pigs, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the lake and died in the water. 33 Those tending the pigs ran off, went into the town and reported all this, including what had happened to the demon-possessed men. 34 Then the whole town went out to meet Jesus. And when they saw him, they pleaded with him to leave their region.
Now what does this say about the millions of human beings throughout history who've claimed to be christians "living in reality"?
The answer is most of humanity for most of human history has been living in a mixture of delusion, reality and outright fantasy. This applies to most human beings unfortunately in our currentworld.
"Work weeks used to be 80+ hours per week. Now work weeks are 35-40 hours plus paid vacations. "
Hahaha... this is going away, and even if you don't work 80hr weeks, you still have 'at will' employment and companies that will never hire most workers full time, to avoid having to pay benefits of any kind. See: Grocery stories and retailers limit hours on purpose to 35hrs/week to keep their employee's 'permanently part time'. Companies are always gaming the system for maximum profits and workers get screwed unless they wake up.
Every thing you comment on was FOUGHT FOR. People had to fight for the 8 hour work day. The idea that it was a result of 'capitalism' and 'productivity' is greatly mistaken propaganda notion promulgated by ignorant historically illiterate americans. (And lets face it most people on slashdot these days have very little historical knowledge at all, often proven by their bankrupt political views).
"The problem is that this encourages massive amounts of malinvestment "
Like american capitalism hasn't been malinvesting with their giant bailouts and give-aways. Get off the pot. De-regulated captialism is just as much a failure at preventing 'mal-investment'. We can look at IP law and copyrights as a form of mal-investment (i.e. protectionism) to keep protectionism under the guide of 'trade'. In the real world power always overcomes principle, if there are profits at stake, you'll find interests that will protect them.
... of progress. The whole idea you can just 'educate' people who have various abilities and traits due to human bio diversity is a bit ludicrous. The real issue is that everyone is in denial that we've made a society that out-strips the average human beings ability to deal with it. So we see the explosion of depression and a denigration of intellectual culture in pop culture because - people want things they can manage without suffocating themselves or their enjoyment of life. They want to enjoy life before they are dead.
Most people end up being wage slaves in our modern capitalist society at boring soul killing jobs. We've made a society that is for all intents and purposes centered around the puritan concept of 'work is good', 'play is lazyness/bad'. People are limited beings and not machines.
I submit it's because the enlightenment's view of the universe as a machine mixed in with american protestants cult of the 'work ethic' has made a deeply anti-human society where everyone just wants to escape drudgery to get those things that nourish their enjoyment of life outside of the anti-human grind of work and toil we all face daily.
The enlightenment was wrong about human reasoning and many ideologies descended from the enlightenment are riddled with erroneous thinking, especially in regards to the way modern society is structured.
"While I am sure, there are plenty of corporate shills on Slashdot, most randroids look like genuine idiots to me."
While some may be, slashdot used to be a bit more diverse in discussion it's become a lot more monolithic and droning as time has gone on. The more intelligent users usually upvote things they don't agree with if it adds value to discussion and I've found that quality declining as time has gone on and I'm not the only one who's noticed it. My trust in moderation systems have gone down as corporations and government have the resources to game these systems easily. Especially with bot driven systems. Not to mention corporations and government hiring "communications" divisions or "marketing" divisions doing the same shit.
... they have armies of posters that they pay to influence opinions and mod comments. I've noticed the quality of many discussions at slashdot have gone down over the years and I know it's not just users themselves. There's an extremely pro-market, pro-capitalist slant that is often off the top and I wouldn't put it past corporations or government to infiltrate discussions and mod anything that is pro-america up and critical of american capitalism down.
... doesn't like when things like lowering their income through radical technology effects them instead of workers. It's ok to look down on the poor and people who's jobs are offshored as not being 'efficient' or 'competitive' but when it happens to business models or "intellectual property" (read: Intellectual monopoly) - heaven forbid!
"I can only hope that when more and more special interests begin to require that their support of some law mustn't be made public, the politicians taking the money stop for a second and think about what the hell they're doing."
"This is the classical method in which the free market is subverted by government regulation"
Problem with this is markets REQUIRE a state, try having roads, sewers, and electricity - those things were built with state intervention because there are natural laws the market rubs up against leading to market failure. The real issue itself is that the world does not work according to market philosophy - human beings can and will game any system you invent or any set of principles will be worked around. You learn this when you are old enough to see through ideology.
"Many topics on slashdot suffer from such, including copyright issues, negative views on android etc."
Get the hell out of here. Copyright issues, you're definitely pro-removal of rights, corporations ALREADY HAVE TOO MUCH POWER. SOPA and net censorship are the result of your favored 'strong ip' laws. GTFO. Just try criticizing capitalism on slashdot and watch how fast americans downvote you to oblivion. If anything most of slashdots audience is american and extremely pro-market. The great thing about slashdot is it's anti-power stance, even if that makes you butthurt.
Please look into the abuse of the law and copyright laws before you start spouting your nonsense.
"That's what it has come to: emotional indulgence and the inability or lack of desire to gather the facts and look at an issue rationally. Careful study and self-education is out of the question."
There is a reason for this, the enlightenment view of human reasoning is wrong:
You can compensate for password only by using randomly generated long passwords and save them with a program like Roboform so you don't have to remember or type them in.
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"You'll find no end of people who will tell you that you can't do it, you're too old, blah, blah, blah. Forget those people."
That's not a very rational response, one should be honest about ones amount of energy/health and abilities. You'd never say this to someone who is severely autistic would you? Potential + health + energy/work ethic is the equation. If you don't have all three in sufficient quantities you'll just be hurting yourself. We all know lots of people who are incompetent and don't know they are incompetent.
... do not mean malware free computing, it means corporate sponsored malware the user is unaware of and can't get rid of. You people are dense who think walled gardens are going to be a panacea. The good thing about open systems at least is that they are analyzed by lots and lots of eyeballs. Closed systems will let nefarious organizations do whatever they want without your say or your knowledge.
I'm surprised we haven't had an anti-wall-street hero start bombing banks yet.
FTFY. Wanting to hurt those who are hurting others is a sign of health, not a sign of sickness. How fucked up do you have to be to sit there and be crushed by corporate power and watch other people suffer because the political system is jammed by bought and paid politicians?
After watching this you might want to bomb some banks too.
http://dailybail.com/home/there-are-no-words-to-describe-the-following-part-ii.html
"wow. modern society is truly spiritually dead. if that is what passes for a 'plot'."
Game plots are not just voice acting and text, they have to do with the art design of a world, the game is EXPERIENCED in real time unlike books where the images are made up by each individual and each individual has a different experience of a book.
The doom universe is an interesting one to BE in. We've had story based games with excellent plots that bombed financially because they were not immediately immersive (planescape torment), only those with sufficient intelligence can really enjoy the amount of text torment has to offer (and I was one of them).
Since Torment was basically a book wrapped in baldurs gate engine garb, I can understand why other people didn't like it. People want to be shown the story, not have to read lines of text (as in torment). This is the difference between planescape and Mass effect 1 and 2.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/16/945768/-UPDATED:-The-HB-Gary-Email-That-Should-Concern-Us-All
Sigh you missed the point entirely, the point being - the human mind is not good at separating fact from fiction, truth from error, when's the last time you went and had your kids demons thrown out?
As to my main point:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/16/945768/-UPDATED:-The-HB-Gary-Email-That-Should-Concern-Us-All
Perhaps if you had anything worthy to say besides just knee jerk emotional reaction and being emotionally childish you could come up with something approaching rational thought.
Yes because we know that such things never happen or are not actively happening. please spare me your historical ignorance and illiteracy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO
You're missing the point - the point is to pollute discussion and shut down critical thinking and create 'false consensus' that those who are followers will absorb. Critical thinking means undermining and pointing out flaws in all reasoning and propaganda. Since Americans are some of the most brainwashed people on planet earth they are absolute proof of how easy it is to shut down critical thinking and get people like you accepting the party line.
"Because if someone disagrees with you, they're obviously a shill, whereas people who agree with you are champions of truth."
Most people are easily to manipulate, they'd sooner die rather then think. Plus you have no idea what's been discovered about human reasoning. Humans live in their mediocre understanding (model) of the world, not everyone's mind is equally capable of perceiving reality as it truly is. Religion is abundant proof of this.
http://bit.ly/dYaWUc
Consider the folowing verse:
Matthew 8:30-35
New International Version (NIV)
30 Some distance from them a large herd of pigs was feeding. 31 The demons begged Jesus, “If you drive us out, send us into the herd of pigs.”
32 He said to them, “Go!” So they came out and went into the pigs, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the lake and died in the water. 33 Those tending the pigs ran off, went into the town and reported all this, including what had happened to the demon-possessed men. 34 Then the whole town went out to meet Jesus. And when they saw him, they pleaded with him to leave their region.
Now what does this say about the millions of human beings throughout history who've claimed to be christians "living in reality"?
The answer is most of humanity for most of human history has been living in a mixture of delusion, reality and outright fantasy. This applies to most human beings unfortunately in our currentworld.
"Work weeks used to be 80+ hours per week. Now work weeks are 35-40 hours plus paid vacations. "
Hahaha... this is going away, and even if you don't work 80hr weeks, you still have 'at will' employment and companies that will never hire most workers full time, to avoid having to pay benefits of any kind. See: Grocery stories and retailers limit hours on purpose to 35hrs/week to keep their employee's 'permanently part time'. Companies are always gaming the system for maximum profits and workers get screwed unless they wake up.
Every thing you comment on was FOUGHT FOR. People had to fight for the 8 hour work day. The idea that it was a result of 'capitalism' and 'productivity' is greatly mistaken propaganda notion promulgated by ignorant historically illiterate americans. (And lets face it most people on slashdot these days have very little historical knowledge at all, often proven by their bankrupt political views).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-hour_day
"The problem is that this encourages massive amounts of malinvestment "
Like american capitalism hasn't been malinvesting with their giant bailouts and give-aways. Get off the pot. De-regulated captialism is just as much a failure at preventing 'mal-investment'. We can look at IP law and copyrights as a form of mal-investment (i.e. protectionism) to keep protectionism under the guide of 'trade'. In the real world power always overcomes principle, if there are profits at stake, you'll find interests that will protect them.
http://dailybail.com/home/there-are-no-words-to-describe-the-following-part-ii.html
... of progress. The whole idea you can just 'educate' people who have various abilities and traits due to human bio diversity is a bit ludicrous. The real issue is that everyone is in denial that we've made a society that out-strips the average human beings ability to deal with it. So we see the explosion of depression and a denigration of intellectual culture in pop culture because - people want things they can manage without suffocating themselves or their enjoyment of life. They want to enjoy life before they are dead.
Most people end up being wage slaves in our modern capitalist society at boring soul killing jobs. We've made a society that is for all intents and purposes centered around the puritan concept of 'work is good', 'play is lazyness/bad'. People are limited beings and not machines.
I submit it's because the enlightenment's view of the universe as a machine mixed in with american protestants cult of the 'work ethic' has made a deeply anti-human society where everyone just wants to escape drudgery to get those things that nourish their enjoyment of life outside of the anti-human grind of work and toil we all face daily.
The enlightenment was wrong about human reasoning and many ideologies descended from the enlightenment are riddled with erroneous thinking, especially in regards to the way modern society is structured.
http://bit.ly/dYaWUc
"While I am sure, there are plenty of corporate shills on Slashdot, most randroids look like genuine idiots to me."
While some may be, slashdot used to be a bit more diverse in discussion it's become a lot more monolithic and droning as time has gone on. The more intelligent users usually upvote things they don't agree with if it adds value to discussion and I've found that quality declining as time has gone on and I'm not the only one who's noticed it. My trust in moderation systems have gone down as corporations and government have the resources to game these systems easily. Especially with bot driven systems. Not to mention corporations and government hiring "communications" divisions or "marketing" divisions doing the same shit.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/03/29/craigslist-ad-for-right-wing-commentators-draws-suspicion-and-elicits-a-few-giggles/
... they have armies of posters that they pay to influence opinions and mod comments. I've noticed the quality of many discussions at slashdot have gone down over the years and I know it's not just users themselves. There's an extremely pro-market, pro-capitalist slant that is often off the top and I wouldn't put it past corporations or government to infiltrate discussions and mod anything that is pro-america up and critical of american capitalism down.
... doesn't like when things like lowering their income through radical technology effects them instead of workers. It's ok to look down on the poor and people who's jobs are offshored as not being 'efficient' or 'competitive' but when it happens to business models or "intellectual property" (read: Intellectual monopoly) - heaven forbid!
"I can only hope that when more and more special interests begin to require that their support of some law mustn't be made public, the politicians taking the money stop for a second and think about what the hell they're doing."
See here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPQgjkTRRRI
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/06/somalia-libertarian-parad_n_197763.html
"No, markets don't require a state."
See somalia.
"This is the classical method in which the free market is subverted by government regulation"
Problem with this is markets REQUIRE a state, try having roads, sewers, and electricity - those things were built with state intervention because there are natural laws the market rubs up against leading to market failure. The real issue itself is that the world does not work according to market philosophy - human beings can and will game any system you invent or any set of principles will be worked around. You learn this when you are old enough to see through ideology.
"Many topics on slashdot suffer from such, including copyright issues, negative views on android etc."
Get the hell out of here. Copyright issues, you're definitely pro-removal of rights, corporations ALREADY HAVE TOO MUCH POWER. SOPA and net censorship are the result of your favored 'strong ip' laws. GTFO. Just try criticizing capitalism on slashdot and watch how fast americans downvote you to oblivion. If anything most of slashdots audience is american and extremely pro-market. The great thing about slashdot is it's anti-power stance, even if that makes you butthurt.
Please look into the abuse of the law and copyright laws before you start spouting your nonsense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PROTECT_IP_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act
"That's what it has come to: emotional indulgence and the inability or lack of desire to gather the facts and look at an issue rationally. Careful study and self-education is out of the question."
There is a reason for this, the enlightenment view of human reasoning is wrong:
http://bit.ly/dYaWUc
"Isn't allowing your emotions to control you great? "
You should learn how human reasoning works, emotions are CRITICAL to human reasoning:
http://bit.ly/dYaWUc
Nope. Royal bank allows more. I have a 21 character password.
You can compensate for password only by using randomly generated long passwords and save them with a program like Roboform so you don't have to remember or type them in.
http://www.roboform.com/