So tell me Mr. Jobs are you some kind of a god? where you should be able to shamelessly take others concepts as your own
but others should not? Or is it that you are just a super hypocrite?
Google admitted they didn't need the few extra eyeballs to tell them that he code sucked so no need to open it at that point since they already admitted the code sucked and the code was a stop-gap until it was fixed and released as ICS. Your trolling attempt is pathetic.
Hey! Apple claims their operating system is open source and Apple drones will gladly remind anyone that Darwin is open source. I would venture to say that Android source code is a whole lot more usable than Darwin by a terribly long shot. So your droning for Apple is quite transparent. Google is OPEN and Apple is closed. You are not going to come here and convince anyone that Google is lying about being open. Google releases actual usable code. Google released open codecs etc. I don't know of any project that Apple initiated that is open. Webkit,Darwin,Cups were not initiated by Apple. So your attempt to put Google in a bad light here is failing horribly. Only the Apple/MS choir agrees with you.
I see people keep posting that bit of propaganda take a look here http://www.2imgs.com/6c941c36e5
THe injunction that Apple got in the Netherlands was for a "Displaying thumbnails in a photo app" and that is software patent. not for patent a rectangle design patent which the judge thew out due to prior art. And prior art there is. Take a gander here.
All those devices were introduced and made public before the ipad was released. Maybe you are the troll moron here. And even so you believe that it only takes months to develop and produce a tablet? So all those devices are copies of Ipad too right? So what you are implying is that those devices came out months after ipad so they must have either started development on those devices once they saw the ipad or they were developed in parallel? what are you saying.
Well you can thank your hero Apple for this. They are the ones that sued and no Samsung is not suing world + dog. They are countersuing Apple. Sorry fail.
All fun and joke and bias aside does apple compete without copyiing? other's concepts? I mean they didn't create the GUI the just brought it to the consumer marketplace. They didn't create the touch screen rectangular tablet they just brought it to the consumer market. They didn't create music downloading software Napster was there first. What if Naptser patented the concept of music download software?
Yeah.. but Apple filed software-patents on swipe-to-unlock, pinch-zooming, scroll-bouncing, "Displaying pictures as thumbnails and when clicked opens in a picture viewer, " All a bunch of obvious software-patents. and patents on effects/gestures all software patents meaning that if your decide to write code that does anything similar, then Apple through the use of software-patents, not copyright will own your totally different code. The days of being able to write code freely without it getting cleared by Apple and Microsoft are coming to an end. And you are ok with this?? Software is authored works. You are ok with companies filing patents on authored works? Should book authors file patents on books stories? Should music authors file patents on the concept of the story in their songs? So if I write a book on the concept of a love story should i be able to sue over that concept? blocking any other book on a love story even if the story is completely different? if not then why should Apple be able to take ownership of my authored code when it is not theirs and is completely different just because it provides a similar function?
You're absolutely right with the first part but it is idiotic to assume that it's only MS or Apple
I did not say nor did I assume that they are the only ones running this campaign. They however are running a concerted anti-competitive campaign against open source software and even Microsoft has said that they will do this if they start to lose footing in the marketplace against open source software. They promised this years ago. And even without the honorable mention by Microsoft it is still transparently obvious what they are doing. And well if the big players are OKing this type of software-patent malfeasance then does anyone think the trolls are not going to want to join the party?
Additionally it's very questionable to assume that without patents and copyright and trademarks and so on anyone would bother to put much development efforts into anything.
I was directly referring to software-patents and the use of software-patents to take ownership of other people's code by using aggressive litigation in the marketplace. Microsoft and Apple rose to prominence rarely being threatened by software-patents throughout their early history. And they were both plenty motivated to create successful products back then without filing software-patents. Now they are using the last draw in order to push the software freedom genie back into the proverbial lamp. Software is authored works and is already protected by copyright along with books, music, movies etc. So should books be protected by patents too? If I come up with the idea in a book about wars in space should I be allowed to file a patent on that and go suing everyone that writes a book about wars in space? even if their wars in space story is completely different than mine? Authored works should not be patented and MS and Apple are abusing the patent system in the same ways they hate for it to be abused against them.
Sure. Software-patent on swipe to unlock. They sued Samsung in the Netherlands over this., software patent on scroll bouncing and other effects. Effects that have been around for decades. Software-patent on "a picture viewer that displays thumbnails and when clicked displays the picture in an image viewer" They got an injunction against Samsung in the Netherlands for this. I could go on and on and on but that should be enough.
Now let me break it down for you ok? Software is already protected by copyright. That means that if I write a feature and you write a feature and the features are similar they are protected by copyright. If I copy your code then that is a violation. however if I file a software-patent on what my code does and your code though completely different from mine solves the problem in a similar way then I can then claim ownership of your code by suing the shit out of you until you 1) pay me a license to use/distribute your totally different code or 2) you remove your code from the marketplace. get it?
The real story here is that Apple and Microsoft are on a coordinated campaign to own all your code.
The notion that you cannot sit down in front of your computer and write code without needing a massive legal department to go up against the likes of Apple and Microsoft as they come to either ban products based on your code or demand a license from vendors based on your code is chilling to say the least
These companies rose on the backs of others. These companies became successful using ideas of others and writing lots of code that was unchallenged by patents for decades. Now they want to use software-patents to raise the barrier of entry so high that even Samsung is having trouble in the marketplace
The companies are also on a mission to use software-patents to make the use of open source software more expensive than their own.
The fact these companies are using the legal system against open source and free software shows that they can no longer compete in the marketplace based on the merits of their own products.
The sad thing here is that they will win and open source will lose and they will become the gatekeepers to all development in the future. The days of free software innovation are coming to an end.
Joe the moron Biden has been a copyright industry shill since his senate days. He as sponsored all kinds of draconian copyright bills with the likes of Berman, Dodd, and Hatch, but Biden is the ring leader. Its disgusting really. Then there is Orin Hatch this moron wanted to install software on our computers to monitor us for copyright infringement and destroy our computers if the software thought we were infringing.
The problem is that no one cares and copyright is not an election issue so we are all screwed.
you can go here to see the current project we are working on. The site is very new so a lot of content is not there yet. Another one of our cars can be seen here part1 and and here Part1 the case/camera car is a 600HP Turbo Supra.
As far as getting money to fix up my RX a lot of mine came from racing V8s. Pick a hopeless victim and bet big. They will race because they have 5+ liters and so they will bet big and they will lose. Down here in the south they don't like imports (rice burners/ricers) very much so they always want to jump on us "ricers"
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http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/the-current-state
If your device was purchased with Google apps you can back up the apps and restore them legally to CM once installed or you can just legally download them here http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_Version/Google_Apps
So tell me Mr. Jobs are you some kind of a god? where you should be able to shamelessly take others concepts as your own but others should not? Or is it that you are just a super hypocrite?
Mr Jobs, is this what your company is attempting to do with other people's code through the use of blatant software-patents? and other dubious software-patents?
So using software patents to gain control of code that you or your company did not write is cool?
Google admitted they didn't need the few extra eyeballs to tell them that he code sucked so no need to open it at that point since they already admitted the code sucked and the code was a stop-gap until it was fixed and released as ICS. Your trolling attempt is pathetic.
Hey! Apple claims their operating system is open source and Apple drones will gladly remind anyone that Darwin is open source. I would venture to say that Android source code is a whole lot more usable than Darwin by a terribly long shot. So your droning for Apple is quite transparent. Google is OPEN and Apple is closed. You are not going to come here and convince anyone that Google is lying about being open. Google releases actual usable code. Google released open codecs etc. I don't know of any project that Apple initiated that is open. Webkit,Darwin,Cups were not initiated by Apple. So your attempt to put Google in a bad light here is failing horribly. Only the Apple/MS choir agrees with you.
Do you have an Android phone with Cyanogen Mod?
Have you even installed Cyanogen Mod before?
The Google Apps are just that APPS, otherwise known as applications.
The Google apps can be freely downloaded once CM is installed.
Yes the Internet that you are using didn't come from public anything.
I see people keep posting that bit of propaganda take a look here http://www.2imgs.com/6c941c36e5 THe injunction that Apple got in the Netherlands was for a "Displaying thumbnails in a photo app" and that is software patent. not for patent a rectangle design patent which the judge thew out due to prior art. And prior art there is. Take a gander here.
All those devices were introduced and made public before the ipad was released. Maybe you are the troll moron here. And even so you believe that it only takes months to develop and produce a tablet? So all those devices are copies of Ipad too right? So what you are implying is that those devices came out months after ipad so they must have either started development on those devices once they saw the ipad or they were developed in parallel? what are you saying.
Apple should have done that too Or is it ok to steal conecpts what about actual products?.
and you hit the nail dead on.
Well you can thank your hero Apple for this. They are the ones that sued and no Samsung is not suing world + dog. They are countersuing Apple. Sorry fail.
How many times should Apple copy others designs before before people finally recognize that yes, Apple are, in fact, copying other people's concepts.
Really?
http://www.2imgs.com/6c941c36e5
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1381528/Knight-Ridder-tablet-looks-just-like-iPad-17-YEARS-OLD.html
Let me ask you this. Honestly who copied who? When you go here and here can you honestly say Apple didn't copy anyone?
You should take a look here. and look here too this one is golden.
And what does Apple's current generation of products look like? Gosh Florian you can do better than that.
All fun and joke and bias aside does apple compete without copyiing? other's concepts? I mean they didn't create the GUI the just brought it to the consumer marketplace. They didn't create the touch screen rectangular tablet they just brought it to the consumer market. They didn't create music downloading software Napster was there first. What if Naptser patented the concept of music download software?
Yeah.. but Apple filed software-patents on swipe-to-unlock, pinch-zooming, scroll-bouncing, "Displaying pictures as thumbnails and when clicked opens in a picture viewer, " All a bunch of obvious software-patents. and patents on effects/gestures all software patents meaning that if your decide to write code that does anything similar, then Apple through the use of software-patents, not copyright will own your totally different code. The days of being able to write code freely without it getting cleared by Apple and Microsoft are coming to an end. And you are ok with this?? Software is authored works. You are ok with companies filing patents on authored works? Should book authors file patents on books stories? Should music authors file patents on the concept of the story in their songs? So if I write a book on the concept of a love story should i be able to sue over that concept? blocking any other book on a love story even if the story is completely different? if not then why should Apple be able to take ownership of my authored code when it is not theirs and is completely different just because it provides a similar function?
You're absolutely right with the first part but it is idiotic to assume that it's only MS or Apple
I did not say nor did I assume that they are the only ones running this campaign. They however are running a concerted anti-competitive campaign against open source software and even Microsoft has said that they will do this if they start to lose footing in the marketplace against open source software. They promised this years ago. And even without the honorable mention by Microsoft it is still transparently obvious what they are doing. And well if the big players are OKing this type of software-patent malfeasance then does anyone think the trolls are not going to want to join the party?
Additionally it's very questionable to assume that without patents and copyright and trademarks and so on anyone would bother to put much development efforts into anything.
I was directly referring to software-patents and the use of software-patents to take ownership of other people's code by using aggressive litigation in the marketplace. Microsoft and Apple rose to prominence rarely being threatened by software-patents throughout their early history. And they were both plenty motivated to create successful products back then without filing software-patents. Now they are using the last draw in order to push the software freedom genie back into the proverbial lamp. Software is authored works and is already protected by copyright along with books, music, movies etc. So should books be protected by patents too? If I come up with the idea in a book about wars in space should I be allowed to file a patent on that and go suing everyone that writes a book about wars in space? even if their wars in space story is completely different than mine? Authored works should not be patented and MS and Apple are abusing the patent system in the same ways they hate for it to be abused against them.
Sure. Software-patent on swipe to unlock. They sued Samsung in the Netherlands over this., software patent on scroll bouncing and other effects. Effects that have been around for decades. Software-patent on "a picture viewer that displays thumbnails and when clicked displays the picture in an image viewer" They got an injunction against Samsung in the Netherlands for this. I could go on and on and on but that should be enough.
Now let me break it down for you ok? Software is already protected by copyright. That means that if I write a feature and you write a feature and the features are similar they are protected by copyright. If I copy your code then that is a violation. however if I file a software-patent on what my code does and your code though completely different from mine solves the problem in a similar way then I can then claim ownership of your code by suing the shit out of you until you 1) pay me a license to use/distribute your totally different code or 2) you remove your code from the marketplace. get it?
The real story here is that Apple and Microsoft are on a coordinated campaign to own all your code.
The notion that you cannot sit down in front of your computer and write code without needing a massive legal department to go up against the likes of Apple and Microsoft as they come to either ban products based on your code or demand a license from vendors based on your code is chilling to say the least
These companies rose on the backs of others. These companies became successful using ideas of others and writing lots of code that was unchallenged by patents for decades. Now they want to use software-patents to raise the barrier of entry so high that even Samsung is having trouble in the marketplace
The companies are also on a mission to use software-patents to make the use of open source software more expensive than their own.
The fact these companies are using the legal system against open source and free software shows that they can no longer compete in the marketplace based on the merits of their own products.
The sad thing here is that they will win and open source will lose and they will become the gatekeepers to all development in the future. The days of free software innovation are coming to an end.
Joe the moron Biden has been a copyright industry shill since his senate days. He as sponsored all kinds of draconian copyright bills with the likes of Berman, Dodd, and Hatch, but Biden is the ring leader. Its disgusting really. Then there is Orin Hatch this moron wanted to install software on our computers to monitor us for copyright infringement and destroy our computers if the software thought we were infringing.
The problem is that no one cares and copyright is not an election issue so we are all screwed.
Its funny you say that because all we do is quarter mile drags :) here in the south. And the folks around here are woefully ignorant of rotaries.
you can go here to see the current project we are working on. The site is very new so a lot of content is not there yet. Another one of our cars can be seen here part1 and and here Part1 the case/camera car is a 600HP Turbo Supra.
As far as getting money to fix up my RX a lot of mine came from racing V8s. Pick a hopeless victim and bet big. They will race because they have 5+ liters and so they will bet big and they will lose. Down here in the south they don't like imports (rice burners/ricers) very much so they always want to jump on us "ricers"
You sir are almost on the money. See my post here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2471174&cid=37689446