Whoever said that Linux can cure any of those things (insert "world hunger", "war", "disease", whatever else here) ? Are you smoking crack? Give me one example, one quote.
Some of us are simply not interested in closed-source software. Does that make us wrong? evil? Are we not allowed to express that opinion?
I hate to break it to you, but Linux has been ready for my desktop for years, and I don't really care about Joe SixPack. If someone else does, that's fine, but it's not like Linux is going to lose money and go out of business and strand all it's users like the Amiga did... or BeOS might.
Caffeine is almost certainly worse for you physically (assuming you eat it instead of smoke it), and more addictive. Caffiene directly contributes to cardiovascular diseases, birth defects, and reproductive deficiencies. My wife gets splitting headaches when she doesn't have her daily coffee, while I can stop toking for weeks with no harmful effects aside from a mild craving the first day I go without.
Nevertheless, in today's draconian atmosphere I encourage you not to get involved with illicit drugs lest you find yourself in jail.
I don't think you want to give the youth the impression that some drugs (which might be used as stepping-stones to harder
drugs) are ok.
They are already given that impression by the fact that alcohol is legal. And alcohol abuse is a much nastier vice than pot, a fact that is readily apparent to any teenager who knows alcoholics and pot-heads.
Why would you have to retrain the workers? Do they really know DOS or just the application?
Just port the app to Linux using ncurses... the core logic would probably be identical, except easier since you wouldn't run into 640K memory limitations.
Of course, if it ain't broke don't fix it. If the DOS machines are stable enough (<2 reboots/day), Just keep 'em until they die. Be aware, however that MS is dropping support for DOS and will eventually drop DOS altogether.
Define sysadmin. I have 2 *nix boxes at home and I am the sysadmin, does that mean I'm exempt? I doubt it. Will Bugtraq be closed down and any dissemination of information about exploits be made illegal? It sure sounds like it.
Will the Europeans decide to try once more for the Holy Land and ride into Jerusalem as liberating crusaders? Will the American government decide to finish the genocide of the native peoples? The way the governments have been acting lately I wouldn't be suprised...
Nurses are responsible for the medications administered, and believe me, they do not trust doctors or computers to know what the hell is going on. They check everything.
And life support systems are generally embedded and not networked in any hackable way... the possibility is there but it's not as likely as you think.
Excel is truely the only decent app they've written.
Tell that to the guy who just called my helpdesk wondering why his Excel document is no longer recognized as such after trying to drop a Word document into it and crashing...
*knock*knock* Hello, Microsoft? Do the words "temp file" mean anything to you? No? Try "do not write the document to disk in a state that you cannot read back". What's that? You'll get it right next time? Oh goody! Can I pay now?
I don't think the article was about embedded life-control systems or anything like that, just IT software in a medical setting. Billing, scheduling, that sort of thing.
Don't get your panties in a wad.
I work with medical IT software everyday and most of it is utter crap... thank God it's not a life-support system.
Ummm, guys, KDE is not a window manager. It's a Desktop Environment (like Gnome) that gives you things like desktop document icons, file associations, and drag-and-drop. It comes with a window manager (kwm), but you could use other KDE-compliant window managers instead.
Personally, I just use a standalone window manager (Sawfish) instead of Gnome or KDE, but get your facts straight.
"Big Iron" is typically understood to refer to a mainframe. And no, a big ol' Sun box is not a mainframe, it's what used to be refered to as a "mini". Nowadays I guess it's just called a "big ol' Sun box".
Cray's UNICOS OS was adapted from SysV Unix... about 15 years after Unix was "born". So, no, Unix was not "born on big iron".
I guess you could say that a Cray was "big iron" even though it's not really a mainframe... but I did say "hardly ever".
A PDP-11 isn't exactly Big Iron. Unix has always been a mini-computer or micro-computer OS, it has hardly ever appeared on mainframes and was certainly not "born on big iron". Sun and SGI have turned it into a powerful beast with their 64-128 processor systems, but those still aren't mainframes (the commonly understood meaning of the words "Big Iron").
The *BSDs have less SMP (multiprocessor) support than almost any other form of *nix, including Linux. This is not a criticism, hardly anyone has a multiprocessor box at home and I feel that leaving out full SMP support to spend more time on more useful code is a valid design decision.
I think you should do some more research into the history of Unix, but I certainly don't think you're a moron like the flamer you responded to.
Because knowing vi allows you to telnet into any *nix box and edit text files with a reasonably powerful editor (it's especially powerful for repetitive and formatted text like configuration files). Since almost all system configuration in *nix is done with plain text files, this is incredibly useful. Especially in a data center like the one I work in with 4 different flavors of *nix.
OK, it is technically a journalling filesystem, but when an NTFS partition corrupts so badly that a journal replay won't fix it and you have no option but to reinstall... I would hardly call that commercial quality. Or even a real journalling filesystem.
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My bad... I was under the impression somehow that it was Public Domain, but I guess it's not.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Whoever said that Linux can cure any of those things (insert "world hunger", "war", "disease", whatever else here) ? Are you smoking crack? Give me one example, one quote.
Some of us are simply not interested in closed-source software. Does that make us wrong? evil? Are we not allowed to express that opinion?
I hate to break it to you, but Linux has been ready for my desktop for years, and I don't really care about Joe SixPack. If someone else does, that's fine, but it's not like Linux is going to lose money and go out of business and strand all it's users like the Amiga did... or BeOS might.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
you get what you pay for
Oh really?
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
PostgreSQL is public domain... and it is actually a real RDBMS!
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
unrelentlessly
Surely you mean relentlessly? ;^)
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Weed is normal. It's been in use for tens of thousands of years and doesn't appear to be stopping anytime soon.
What is not normal is people illegalizing flowers.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Caffeine is almost certainly worse for you physically (assuming you eat it instead of smoke it), and more addictive. Caffiene directly contributes to cardiovascular diseases, birth defects, and reproductive deficiencies. My wife gets splitting headaches when she doesn't have her daily coffee, while I can stop toking for weeks with no harmful effects aside from a mild craving the first day I go without.
Nevertheless, in today's draconian atmosphere I encourage you not to get involved with illicit drugs lest you find yourself in jail.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
I don't think you want to give the youth the impression that some drugs (which might be used as stepping-stones to harder drugs) are ok.
They are already given that impression by the fact that alcohol is legal. And alcohol abuse is a much nastier vice than pot, a fact that is readily apparent to any teenager who knows alcoholics and pot-heads.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Why would you have to retrain the workers? Do they really know DOS or just the application?
Just port the app to Linux using ncurses... the core logic would probably be identical, except easier since you wouldn't run into 640K memory limitations.
Of course, if it ain't broke don't fix it. If the DOS machines are stable enough (<2 reboots/day), Just keep 'em until they die. Be aware, however that MS is dropping support for DOS and will eventually drop DOS altogether.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Define sysadmin. I have 2 *nix boxes at home and I am the sysadmin, does that mean I'm exempt? I doubt it. Will Bugtraq be closed down and any dissemination of information about exploits be made illegal? It sure sounds like it.
Will the Europeans decide to try once more for the Holy Land and ride into Jerusalem as liberating crusaders? Will the American government decide to finish the genocide of the native peoples? The way the governments have been acting lately I wouldn't be suprised...
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Nurses are responsible for the medications administered, and believe me, they do not trust doctors or computers to know what the hell is going on. They check everything.
And life support systems are generally embedded and not networked in any hackable way... the possibility is there but it's not as likely as you think.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Excel is truely the only decent app they've written.
Tell that to the guy who just called my helpdesk wondering why his Excel document is no longer recognized as such after trying to drop a Word document into it and crashing...
*knock*knock* Hello, Microsoft? Do the words "temp file" mean anything to you? No? Try "do not write the document to disk in a state that you cannot read back". What's that? You'll get it right next time? Oh goody! Can I pay now?
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Yeah, right.
"WTF happened to the passwd file?!!"
"I thought it would look better in 12-point Times..."
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Except they stopped accepting new accounts months ago...
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
I don't think the article was about embedded life-control systems or anything like that, just IT software in a medical setting. Billing, scheduling, that sort of thing.
Don't get your panties in a wad.
I work with medical IT software everyday and most of it is utter crap... thank God it's not a life-support system.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Ummm, guys, KDE is not a window manager. It's a Desktop Environment (like Gnome) that gives you things like desktop document icons, file associations, and drag-and-drop. It comes with a window manager (kwm), but you could use other KDE-compliant window managers instead.
Personally, I just use a standalone window manager (Sawfish) instead of Gnome or KDE, but get your facts straight.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Sorry guys, but linux still isn't ready for the desktop.
It's been on my desktop for years... and I don't even use Gnome or KDE. Oh, you mean for the lusers' desktops. *Yawn* Guess not if you say so Chief.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
"Big Iron" is typically understood to refer to a mainframe. And no, a big ol' Sun box is not a mainframe, it's what used to be refered to as a "mini". Nowadays I guess it's just called a "big ol' Sun box".
Cray's UNICOS OS was adapted from SysV Unix... about 15 years after Unix was "born". So, no, Unix was not "born on big iron".
I guess you could say that a Cray was "big iron" even though it's not really a mainframe... but I did say "hardly ever".
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
A PDP-11 isn't exactly Big Iron. Unix has always been a mini-computer or micro-computer OS, it has hardly ever appeared on mainframes and was certainly not "born on big iron". Sun and SGI have turned it into a powerful beast with their 64-128 processor systems, but those still aren't mainframes (the commonly understood meaning of the words "Big Iron").
The *BSDs have less SMP (multiprocessor) support than almost any other form of *nix, including Linux. This is not a criticism, hardly anyone has a multiprocessor box at home and I feel that leaving out full SMP support to spend more time on more useful code is a valid design decision.
I think you should do some more research into the history of Unix, but I certainly don't think you're a moron like the flamer you responded to.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Because knowing vi allows you to telnet into any *nix box and edit text files with a reasonably powerful editor (it's especially powerful for repetitive and formatted text like configuration files). Since almost all system configuration in *nix is done with plain text files, this is incredibly useful. Especially in a data center like the one I work in with 4 different flavors of *nix.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
OK, it is technically a journalling filesystem, but when an NTFS partition corrupts so badly that a journal replay won't fix it and you have no option but to reinstall... I would hardly call that commercial quality. Or even a real journalling filesystem.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
That's a pretty funny quote, especially since NTFS is not a journalling filesystem.
What a pack of liars. I don't see how those Marketing guys can look at themselves in the mirror.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
I think we should try building an aristocracy, or a feudal society...
Oh, now that's a step forward.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
Damn, I wish I had some moderator points right now. That was exactly what I was thinking only you put it into words better.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"
There are white leds now... but like the blue they draw an order of magnitude more power.
"Free your mind and your ass will follow"