According to the latest statistics, the European Union's 320 million people now has more *Internet users* than the USA's 250 million.
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Unfortunately, this is not a joke - it happens in real life.
In the list of possibly infringing domains on the NISSAN trademark, there was found TenNISSANdiego and ReNISSANceCruiseLines.
The last one was probably a misspelling cybersquatter, but it was not Nissan he was aiming at...
Repeat post: ICANN and IETF are not in a fight.
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Since the poster apparently continues to think that the internet-drafts story means something, I'll repeat my comment from that story.
Simon Higgs is fighting ICANN, and using the internet-drafts process as a tool.
There is no fight between ICANN and the IETF as such. Not to say that all IETF members like everything ICANN does (we don't), but Simon Higgs' opinion is his own, even when expressed as internet-drafts.
Internet-Drafts are an open process
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Note: Anyone at all can publish a document as internet-draft. These documents are the work of Simon Higgs, who has been a proponent of "alternative roots" for many years.
Their publication says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about how the IETF community as a whole views these matters.
Strangely, I participated in a debate on the concept of "intelligent packets/networks" just a few days ago here in Antalya, Turkey.
What kills this idea is two things:
- Routers don't have TIME to be smart. At 40 Gbits, a small packet goes by in 30 nanoseconds.
- People will interconnect only when they think they understand what they interconnect. And people's understanding is VERY limited.
RFC 821 and 822 were grandfathered in as full Standards. They predate by quite a few years the standardization levels.
Both Proposed, Draft and (full) Standard documents are Internet standards, they are just at different "maturity levels".
The biggest reason why so many things remain at Proposed is that it's work to update them, and a lot of people don't see much benefit.
A system for encryption of email after it had left the user's workstation was proposed in the IETF some years ago. I don't remember the effort name, but Don Eastlake or Ned Freed would be able to tell you more.
It fizzled for 2 reasons (I think):
Signatures applied at a gateway are useless for non-repudiation ("It wasn't me, it was the cleaning assistant"). That's half the value of crypto gone right there.
Encryption applied at a gateway usually requires DEcryption applied at the corresponding incoming gateway. This requires the gateway to hold the decryption keys, and makes it into a Valuable Target - something security people tend to dislike.
smallest functional IP stack I heard of was 20 kilobytes.
7.9 Mbytes of IP stack means someone thinks he's playing on a Win2K box, where that would not be noticeable.
BTW, the reason why the IETF WG was named SECSH and not SSH was that there was already an SSH group - Site Security Handbook.
So this was not an attempt to avoid the SSH name either.
my patent reading skills are significantly impaired. But I think this MIGHT be patents about dynamic position of the fan rotor so that it spins in balance around its axis rather than wobbling, even without using very solid bearings.
If so, it is indeed quite "non-obvious technology".
Some patents have a point.
As long as we live in America, we will receive unsolicited advertisements I don't live in America.
One of the sicker aspects of spam is that I get lots of stuff I couldn't take advantage of EVEN IF I BELIEVED THEM.
Spam is not free; even if email spam is cheaper to me than paper spam, it is also cheaper to the sender. To my disadvantage.
ICANN has done an amazing job of shooting itself in the foot - the CCTLD billing being only one example.
But it is far from clear that other roots will do any better. SuperRoot, for instance, claims that "it is not an alternative to the ICANN/IANA root". But SuperRoot lists a.biz domain operated by a different person than the one awarded.biz by ICANN. Someone has to resolve the conflict.
And it's very clear that no matter who does it, there will be a lot of political controversy.
Not watermarked. Signed.
Every hardware product should have an embedded public/private keypair,and by default sign anything it produces with it.
It should be out in the open where anyone can take it off; anyone should be free to say "I don't want to tell you where this picture comes from", but NOBODY should be free to say "this picture was made with YOUR camera".
The ICANN board wanted multiple, DIFFERENT models for the domains they approved.
The battle between "chartered" and "open" models has been ongoing for years, and there was no way we wouldn't have both kinds.
I believe.info is the open one, while.museum and.coop both got good marks because there's a definite international organization that wishes to stand behind them with the approval stamp, like today's.edu and.gov.
The.name and.biz models are true experiments.
The.xxx and.kids proposals were rejected basically because the applicants hadn't shown any way that they could be useful.
.xxx is problematic because you won't get all the porn sites into it - whitehouse.com will be there until forcibly evicted. So it's useless for censoring. Besides - whose filters? Yours, mine or the Ayatullah's?
.kids is problematic because you wouldn't get enough into it - any kid with a decent curiosity will want to look at stuff like nasa.gov or lego.com; unless 90% of those sites mirror into.kids,.kids is too small a kindergarten.
"not worked out" was the board's comments to these proposals.
According to the Linux Counter, Korea has registered 4.529 Linux Users - this in spite of them having to go to an English-language site to register. And unlike the US, registrations are growing by more than 100% per year. (the US showed only 33% growth last year. Not much!)
Anyone who thought that Haider's emergence in Austria was a surprise hasn't followed Austrian politics.
The country has been seriously schizophrenic about whether it was a victim or a villain in WWII, and never got the amount of heavy-handed indoctrination at the hands of the Americans and allies that "taught" Germans that Nazism was bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.
The result is that being right-wing never carried the amount of negative baggage that it did in other countries of Europe.
That said, 2/3 of Austria's population did NOT vote for Haider.
The NetPD company is based in England, which is part of the European Union.
The European Union, unlike the US, has laws about handing out information on people. In particular, handing over lists of names and information about them to the US without the consent of the listed persons is almost certainly illegal.
The ORBS people have always been sitting ducks for a restraint-of-trade lawsuit.
Now they've taken on someone who knows very well how to spell "lawyer".
The last I saw a discussion with the ORBS kids, their attitude was "we decide who is in the wrong, and how to punish them". Even when they are right, such an attitude creates enemies.
NSI tried the "feed some of domain name costs into an infrastructure fund" gambit. The customers and the lawmakers refused to let them do so. So I guess it's not workable in the US as currently constituted to use domain names as a way to get critical infrastructure paid for. A pity, I think.
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According to the latest statistics, the European Union's 320 million people now has more *Internet users* than the USA's 250 million.
Unfortunately, this is not a joke - it happens in real life.
In the list of possibly infringing domains on the NISSAN trademark, there was found TenNISSANdiego and ReNISSANceCruiseLines.
The last one was probably a misspelling cybersquatter, but it was not Nissan he was aiming at...
Since the poster apparently continues to think that the internet-drafts story means something, I'll repeat my comment from that story.
Simon Higgs is fighting ICANN, and using the internet-drafts process as a tool.
There is no fight between ICANN and the IETF as such. Not to say that all IETF members like everything ICANN does (we don't), but Simon Higgs' opinion is his own, even when expressed as internet-drafts.
Note: Anyone at all can publish a document as internet-draft. These documents are the work of Simon Higgs, who has been a proponent of "alternative roots" for many years.
Their publication says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about how the IETF community as a whole views these matters.
Strangely, I participated in a debate on the concept of "intelligent packets/networks" just a few days ago here in Antalya, Turkey.
What kills this idea is two things:
- Routers don't have TIME to be smart. At 40 Gbits, a small packet goes by in 30 nanoseconds.
- People will interconnect only when they think they understand what they interconnect. And people's understanding is VERY limited.
The KISS principle rules.
From the cronjobs reporting to the Linux Counter:
2.4 - 110 out of 422, 26.1%
2.4.4 - 2 out of 422, 0.5%
Watch this space.
was the Site Security Handbook.
When the SSH standardization effort came along, the "ssh" name wasn't available. Thus - SECSH.
RFC 821 and 822 were grandfathered in as full Standards. They predate by quite a few years the standardization levels.
Both Proposed, Draft and (full) Standard documents are Internet standards, they are just at different "maturity levels".
The biggest reason why so many things remain at Proposed is that it's work to update them, and a lot of people don't see much benefit.
It fizzled for 2 reasons (I think):
Be careful what you ask for. You might get it.
The reason Pentium is not called 586 is that Intel lost when they sued AMD over the rights to the number 486.
smallest functional IP stack I heard of was 20 kilobytes. 7.9 Mbytes of IP stack means someone thinks he's playing on a Win2K box, where that would not be noticeable.
Sure. Join the ACM.
BTW, the reason why the IETF WG was named SECSH and not SSH was that there was already an SSH group - Site Security Handbook.
So this was not an attempt to avoid the SSH name either.
my patent reading skills are significantly impaired. But I think this MIGHT be patents about dynamic position of the fan rotor so that it spins in balance around its axis rather than wobbling, even without using very solid bearings.
If so, it is indeed quite "non-obvious technology".
Some patents have a point.
As long as we live in America, we will receive unsolicited advertisements
I don't live in America.
One of the sicker aspects of spam is that I get lots of stuff I couldn't take advantage of EVEN IF I BELIEVED THEM.
Spam is not free; even if email spam is cheaper to me than paper spam, it is also cheaper to the sender. To my disadvantage.
But it is far from clear that other roots will do any better. SuperRoot, for instance, claims that "it is not an alternative to the ICANN/IANA root". But SuperRoot lists a
And it's very clear that no matter who does it, there will be a lot of political controversy.
Technology is simple. Politics are expensive.
Not watermarked. Signed.
Every hardware product should have an embedded public/private keypair,and by default sign anything it produces with it.
It should be out in the open where anyone can take it off; anyone should be free to say "I don't want to tell you where this picture comes from", but NOBODY should be free to say "this picture was made with YOUR camera".
My $ 0.02.
The ICANN board wanted multiple, DIFFERENT models for the domains they approved. .info is the open one, while .museum and .coop both got good marks because there's a definite international organization that wishes to stand behind them with the approval stamp, like today's .edu and .gov.
.name and .biz models are true experiments.
The battle between "chartered" and "open" models has been ongoing for years, and there was no way we wouldn't have both kinds.
I believe
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The .xxx and .kids proposals were rejected basically because the applicants hadn't shown any way that they could be useful.
.kids, .kids is too small a kindergarten.
.xxx is problematic because you won't get all the porn sites into it - whitehouse.com will be there until forcibly evicted. So it's useless for censoring. Besides - whose filters? Yours, mine or the Ayatullah's?
.kids is problematic because you wouldn't get enough into it - any kid with a decent curiosity will want to look at stuff like nasa.gov or lego.com; unless 90% of those sites mirror into
"not worked out" was the board's comments to these proposals.
This is from http://counter.li.org/reports/machines.html
distribution
============
79826 reported
80104 values
1588 1.99% DIY
13089 16.40% Debian
3440 4.31% Debian ==DEBIAN-VERSION==
4898 6.14% Mandrake
23666 29.65% Red Hat
6006 7.52% S.u.S.E
21657 27.13% Slackware
5760 7.22% Others
Unlike all the others, if you don't like the numbers, you can DO something about it. Go register!
According to the Linux Counter, Korea has registered 4.529 Linux Users - this in spite of them having to go to an English-language site to register.
And unlike the US, registrations are growing by more than 100% per year. (the US showed only 33% growth last year. Not much!)
Anyone who thought that Haider's emergence in Austria was a surprise hasn't followed Austrian politics.
The country has been seriously schizophrenic about whether it was a victim or a villain in WWII, and never got the amount of heavy-handed indoctrination at the hands of the Americans and allies that "taught" Germans that Nazism was bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.
The result is that being right-wing never carried the amount of negative baggage that it did in other countries of Europe.
That said, 2/3 of Austria's population did NOT vote for Haider.
The NetPD company is based in England, which is part of the European Union.
The European Union, unlike the US, has laws about handing out information on people. In particular, handing over lists of names and information about them to the US without the consent of the listed persons is almost certainly illegal.
I would rate NetPD a "risky investment".
The ORBS people have always been sitting ducks for a restraint-of-trade lawsuit.
Now they've taken on someone who knows very well how to spell "lawyer".
The last I saw a discussion with the ORBS kids, their attitude was "we decide who is in the wrong, and how to punish them". Even when they are right, such an attitude creates enemies.
And when they are wrong, the lawyers descend.
NSI tried the "feed some of domain name costs into an infrastructure fund" gambit.
The customers and the lawmakers refused to let them do so.
So I guess it's not workable in the US as currently constituted to use domain names as a way to get critical infrastructure paid for.
A pity, I think.