having counted Linux users since 1995, I believe I know something about the error factors when estimating the Linux user population. This guy is not saying ONE word about where he got his numbers from; that's a new low in statistical harebrainedness. If I could invent my own data points, I could do considerably better than three datapoints, at least. So he's probably using someone's numbers. But whose?
EnablePMTUDiscovery:DWORD = 1 Enables automatic discovery of the MTU for your line, with the MSS set appropriately. note: Path MTU discovery is about discovering the MTU of the PATH, not the line. If you disable path MTU discovery, and make a connection to somewhere that has a lower MTU than 1500 (used to be most of the Internet, now it's rather few places), your packets will be broken up by the intermediate routers, and performance will suffer. In some cases, due to stupid firewalls, path MTU discovery doesn't work, and the connection will just hang. That's the time you need to finagle this value.
this is the same minister who bought a million dollars' worth of airline tickets from an airline that hasn't started yet, just to make sure he had an alternative to the (partly government-owned) semi-monopoly called Scandinavian. It'll be fun to see what happens next.
According to the Linux Counter, about 1.6% of the Linux users use the 2.0 kernel. That's more than the number of people using 2.5. (Don't like the numbers? Get counted!)
is IP, of course. See the IP Storage set of standards-in-development that includes iSCSI (IPS charter here). Etherhet cabling is much cheaper than all the other stuff out there, and with 10G Ethernet just standardized, it goes faster too.
are you sure that's the name spelled backwards? spelling it 'djupedal' looks more backwards to me...:)
Americans...... "djupedal" means "deep valley" in Norwegian, and is a reasonably common surname. American cultural imperialism is already imperiling the Norwegian heritage with given names like "Roger" and "Angela", but the surnames are still holding on against the flood. Where is Ivar Aasen when you need him.....?
Of course the Linux Counter is self-selecting. But - if anything, the geekiness of the counter should select FOR the kind of people who participate in Linux kernel development. If even this clearly biased sample shows such a small percentage of Linux users spending time getting beyond the 2.4 series, does the Linux community have breadth enough to "continue the show"?
In the old days, many many people used the 2.3 kernels. Today, the Linux Counter system statistics show less than 1% of users using the "development" kernel. Is this a worrying aspect of the Linux community's development cycle?
A self-selected set of 10-20 people claiming to represent 6 billion people (the current/proposed board structure) is not democracy. The ICANN critics have got that right. However, a self-selected set of 20.000 people claiming to represent 6 billion people (the current round of At Large elections) IS NOT DEMOCRACY EITHER. Stuart got that much right.
The Class A that MIT has is 16 million addresses. According to ARIN, China has more than 20 million addresses assigned. The crossover point was sometime in June 2000, I believe.
this is probably too late to do any good, but....
the stats at the Linux Counter show that the most popular 2.4 kernel is 2.4.12 (144 boxes), closely followed by 2.4.9 (126), 2.4.13 (116) and 2.4.14 (110).
The average uptime of 2.4.0 boxes is higher than for anything else in the 2.4 series (46.5 days), but this is very much a reflection of the days since release, too!
says the Linux Counter systemstats.
Granted, this has about a month's lead time, and is hardly "representative" (more enthusiasts than real users), but it shows 2.4 at 58.6% of the 1142 machines registered. 2.4.14 is 0.4%, 2.4.12 is 10.8%, beating everything but 2.2.19 (at 14.6%).
btw, the 5 registered 2.4.14 kernels are all prereleases - pre5aa1 being the most popular one.
This is a fun view - but that's no reason not to get counted!
I think being slashdotted is fun. (twisted sense of humor:-)
The counter has been slashdotted twice before, and broke down; this time, it has 10x the processing power and 30x the disk space compared to then. But it seems that the slashdot community has expanded by a similar factor in the meantime - the counter is running at a load of 16, but it is STAYING UP.
Watching, and enjoying.
The counter contains such a subproject.
There is a script you can install that will update the data for a machine on email - this is the basis for the "uptime" and "kernel version" statistics.
So far, a few hundred people have registered machines there; DO install more!!!!!!
Note that the IETF policy is RAND, not RF.
The reason for that is that under RF, it's MUCH too easy to see essential work blocked by claiming a patent and refusing RF status.
It is much harder to appear reasonable and refuse RAND.
2.4 is stabilizing as proportion of the whole
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Linux Kernel 2.4.10
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· Score: 3, Interesting
According to the Kernel stats of the Linux Counter, the proportion of 2.4 kernels has actually gone slightly DOWN recently - it was briefly above 50%, but is now back to 47.7%.
Two possible reasons:
More 2.2 persons have registered
The 2.4 persons have forgotten to use "machine-update -c", and have slipped out of the list after not updating for 60 days.
The first 4 2.4.10 persons are in there already - but all of them run prereleases.
Please READ RFC 2916.
I know that people are using your phone# as index into customer databases and all sorts of junk.
But this stuff has only ONE purpose:
Given a phone number (whether it is a real phone, an IP phone, or some other thing assigned a number, how can you find out how to call, fax or mail that number over the Internet?
That's ALL. All the other stuff is mainly speculation, FUD and bullshit.
How I wish you were right.....
"The mythical man-month" quoted research showing that most big programming projects could be characterized by a single number.
This number was the average number of new bugs introduced, uncovered or otherwise made noticeable by fixing an old bug.
If this number is 1, you should start planning for replacing the system.
This is one reason why INTERFACES are important: the more isolated a fix is, the bigger your chance of keeping your number 1.
IBM S/360 was the OS where this was first made explicit, I think.
according to www.amazon.co.uk, the Broken Sword by Paul Anderson (sigh) is available on special order as a 1998 paperback, and by Pohl Anderson (double sigh) on special order as a 1973 harcover.
So I guess it had a few more print runs.
my favourite "you are hacking me" story is the guy who registered with the Linux Counter using an email account on his home machine, and then complained that I was hacking his home machine because I was connecting to port 25 every half hour....his email server was not turned on.
Number of keys: 1,461,786
Keys with at least one outside sig: 161,298
Since a self-signed key is no more reason to trust the key than finding it on a scrap of paper in the road, this allows us to compute the PGP clue of people using PGP keyservers.
Number of people who don't understand what they are doing: 1,300,488
PGP clue density: 0,11
And this is from the part of the population that has the clue to install PGP and find the "upload" button.
Not encouraging.
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having counted Linux users since 1995, I believe I know something about the error factors when estimating the Linux user population.
This guy is not saying ONE word about where he got his numbers from; that's a new low in statistical harebrainedness.
If I could invent my own data points, I could do considerably better than three datapoints, at least. So he's probably using someone's numbers. But whose?
EnablePMTUDiscovery:DWORD = 1
Enables automatic discovery of the MTU for your line, with the MSS set appropriately.
note: Path MTU discovery is about discovering the MTU of the PATH, not the line. If you disable path MTU discovery, and make a connection to somewhere that has a lower MTU than 1500 (used to be most of the Internet, now it's rather few places), your packets will be broken up by the intermediate routers, and performance will suffer.
In some cases, due to stupid firewalls, path MTU discovery doesn't work, and the connection will just hang. That's the time you need to finagle this value.
this is the same minister who bought a million dollars' worth of airline tickets from an airline that hasn't started yet, just to make sure he had an alternative to the (partly government-owned) semi-monopoly called Scandinavian.
It'll be fun to see what happens next.
According to the Linux Counter, about 1.6% of the Linux users use the 2.0 kernel.
That's more than the number of people using 2.5.
(Don't like the numbers? Get counted!)
is IP, of course. See the IP Storage set of standards-in-development that includes iSCSI (IPS charter here).
Etherhet cabling is much cheaper than all the other stuff out there, and with 10G Ethernet just standardized, it goes faster too.
Americans......
"djupedal" means "deep valley" in Norwegian, and is a reasonably common surname.
American cultural imperialism is already imperiling the Norwegian heritage with given names like "Roger" and "Angela", but the surnames are still holding on against the flood.
Where is Ivar Aasen when you need him.....?
Of course the Linux Counter is self-selecting.
But - if anything, the geekiness of the counter should select FOR the kind of people who participate in Linux kernel development. If even this clearly biased sample shows such a small percentage of Linux users spending time getting beyond the 2.4 series, does the Linux community have breadth enough to "continue the show"?
Harald, alarmist
In the old days, many many people used the 2.3 kernels.
Today, the Linux Counter system statistics show less than 1% of users using the "development" kernel.
Is this a worrying aspect of the Linux community's development cycle?
They've got the top 100 online.
- #1: Jean Auel. Nuff said.
- #47: Starwars knockoff
- #55: Douglas Adams unfinished
- #57: Starwars purty pictures
- #78: Artemis Fowl series
- #87: Vorkosigan series
Bad F/SF rules, but the real stuff is visible.
now if Hasbro would be kind enough to sue Microsoft for making people think bad thoughts about the word "Monopoly", life would be consistent...
A self-selected set of 10-20 people claiming to represent 6 billion people (the current/proposed board structure) is not democracy. The ICANN critics have got that right.
However, a self-selected set of 20.000 people claiming to represent 6 billion people (the current round of At Large elections) IS NOT DEMOCRACY EITHER.
Stuart got that much right.
Harald
The Class A that MIT has is 16 million addresses.
According to ARIN, China has more than 20 million addresses assigned.
The crossover point was sometime in June 2000, I believe.
this is probably too late to do any good, but....
the stats at the Linux Counter show that the most popular 2.4 kernel is 2.4.12 (144 boxes), closely followed by 2.4.9 (126), 2.4.13 (116) and 2.4.14 (110).
The average uptime of 2.4.0 boxes is higher than for anything else in the 2.4 series (46.5 days), but this is very much a reflection of the days since release, too!
says the Linux Counter systemstats.
Granted, this has about a month's lead time, and is hardly "representative" (more enthusiasts than real users), but it shows 2.4 at 58.6% of the 1142 machines registered. 2.4.14 is 0.4%, 2.4.12 is 10.8%, beating everything but 2.2.19 (at 14.6%).
btw, the 5 registered 2.4.14 kernels are all prereleases - pre5aa1 being the most popular one.
This is a fun view - but that's no reason not to get counted!
Harald, counter, compulsive.
I think being slashdotted is fun. (twisted sense of humor :-)
The counter has been slashdotted twice before, and broke down; this time, it has 10x the processing power and 30x the disk space compared to then. But it seems that the slashdot community has expanded by a similar factor in the meantime - the counter is running at a load of 16, but it is STAYING UP.
Watching, and enjoying.
well, the reason 139724 hasn't gotten a reminder is that the registered email address doesn't work any more....
The counter contains such a subproject.
There is a script you can install that will update the data for a machine on email - this is the basis for the "uptime" and "kernel version" statistics.
So far, a few hundred people have registered machines there; DO install more!!!!!!
Note that the IETF policy is RAND, not RF.
The reason for that is that under RF, it's MUCH too easy to see essential work blocked by claiming a patent and refusing RF status.
It is much harder to appear reasonable and refuse RAND.
Two possible reasons:
The first 4 2.4.10 persons are in there already - but all of them run prereleases.
Go register!
Please READ RFC 2916.
I know that people are using your phone# as index into customer databases and all sorts of junk.
But this stuff has only ONE purpose:
Given a phone number (whether it is a real phone, an IP phone, or some other thing assigned a number, how can you find out how to call, fax or mail that number over the Internet?
That's ALL. All the other stuff is mainly speculation, FUD and bullshit.
How I wish you were right.....
"The mythical man-month" quoted research showing that most big programming projects could be characterized by a single number.
This number was the average number of new bugs introduced, uncovered or otherwise made noticeable by fixing an old bug.
If this number is 1, you should start planning for replacing the system.
This is one reason why INTERFACES are important: the more isolated a fix is, the bigger your chance of keeping your number 1.
IBM S/360 was the OS where this was first made explicit, I think.
fwiw, it's part of the contract between Afilias and ICANN that nobody can register icann.info.
according to www.amazon.co.uk, the Broken Sword by Paul Anderson (sigh) is available on special order as a 1998 paperback, and by Pohl Anderson (double sigh) on special order as a 1973 harcover.
So I guess it had a few more print runs.
my favourite "you are hacking me" story is the guy who registered with the Linux Counter using an email account on his home machine, and then complained that I was hacking his home machine because I was connecting to port 25 every half hour....his email server was not turned on.
Since a self-signed key is no more reason to trust the key than finding it on a scrap of paper in the road, this allows us to compute the PGP clue of people using PGP keyservers.
And this is from the part of the population that has the clue to install PGP and find the "upload" button.
Not encouraging.