It already has; the reason the fungus can do something is because this behavior has showed up in its dna (through mutation or other mechanisms). Fungi are simple, they don't learn in any real sense of the word they simply do what their dna tells them.
I never said that I do, I don't see how you could even come up with that from my post. I simply said that explaining evolution, and in general this would require explaining all the background, is pointless in a forum post to someone who will not listen. A book or website written by someone else is a much better teacher, and if someone cared they would have read one already. For example, I don't argue about the meaning of things in the bible for example because I don't have a good enough understanding of the bible. I wouldn't expect people on a Christian site to explain every little thing to me, and likewise I won't myself explain every little thing to creationists and IDers.
As for your statement on Biology, your point being? That is science, we build up answers over time, and the general ideas are fairly well agreed on. Physics for example has multiple theories in certain areas, and most people don't say it is all wrong and then claim god's will is doing it and there is no need for physics. Unlike creationists and IDers scientists don't simply agree with whatever the priest tells them; conflicts will exist and the point is that with time and experiments some agreement is reached. Biology is a very active field, as such there is a lot of such conflict right now and with time it will even out.
Well, another response might be to try to answer the question. Why do the motivations you _suspect_ are behind the questions make you unwilling to answer it, as stated?
Personally? Because it's pointless, if someone wants to understand the answer all it takes it picking up a few books on evolution or biology. Nowadays, google works just as well although books may still be better. If they haven't looked for such information, then first of all it is impossible to even explain all the required knowledge in a single post since most likely they have little concept of biology at all. That's not even getting into the need to explain how science and scientific thought functions, since most likely they lack an understanding of that as well.
Had they shown some incentive or knowledge, such as their own ideas or indicated knowledge of biology then I might be more inclined to discuss the topic with them.
Continually approaching intelligent design with a strategy of "proving it wrong" or "showing them they're wrong" is blindly missing the mark.
I need to agree with the other poster, where the heck this you pull this out of?
The problem is that ID believers are trying to prove evolution wrong, using the same crap statements as the original poster in this thread. We're not trying to prove ID wrong, we're trying to make them shut up and leave evolution alone since they don't even have the most basic knowledge of it.
Cell phone records? I want his credit card number, bank account numbers, SS number, name, dob and so on. Maybe even his passport info for good measure.
And since the information is free and cannot be restrained, according to him, I can use all of it any way I want since I now own that copy.
I recommend you look up the numbers; quoting blatantly false information from some stupid website doesn't make you look good. Oh, and most crimes are committed by black people.
Yes, it's around $30k but you need to pay another $12k for room/board (you can try living off campus but then you'd probably pay more). Of course that is if your family makes enough money to pay that much, if it doesn't the price goes down a lot since I found the financial aid to be great.
Various stanford courses are already on the web (see scpd.stanford.edu) for students (they used to not verify but now they do). You get video, audio and shitty slides although I think they're in the process of updating the format. Class attendance in such courses is low needless to say.
Depends, if you have a masters (or even BS) from Stanford in EE or CS with a very good GPA then I bow down before your study skills. Why? Because I see what the people who get those grades are like and how much they need to study. Just because your college or field is easy doesn't mean all are.
I'd like to note that this requires finding a good book, in cases the professor may say things which books don't say or don't emphasize properly (for various reasons). Seems one of my professors started the field the class was on, and eh mentioned that this was the first year that he found the book to be really usable.
Some subjects may not have good books on them period or are too new to have books.
That is generally what the Stanford lectures, the ones that are online for students, are like. You have the video stream and then still images, of slightly but still not great quality. The video stream is actually controlled by someone (I think when record but some post-processing may be done as well), so they zoom in when needed and switch between views as required.
Yes, the COPY of the data on the usb device is LOST as in the company doesn't know where it is (or that it even existed in the first place). Let's say it contains people's credit card information, I hope you get why you wish to avoid "losing" such data.
...you are aware that it is cheaper and easier to simply leave the led on all the time than to have stand by mode added in? As such that "special fancy geek-style mice" or heck any half-decent optical mouse will turn the led way down when it is not in use. It needs to be on to sense when you move the mouse. Also leds are very efficient, so the power used is minimal (under 100 mw probably).
Gas seems to be over 80% efficient, probably the same for oil. Power plants are most likely more efficient however they need to convert their energy from heat to electricity, and then transfer that electricity over power lines to your house. Neither of those is close to 100% efficient so overall electricity for heating is not very efficient.
Electric heating is less efficient than other forms of heating, as more conversion of energy is needed. So in msot cases the light bulbs are less efficient, in addition you forget that winter doesn't last the whole year in most places.
It depends on how advanced society is and how it advances. Intelligence is influenced by genetics/womb, childhood experiences and learning.
An advanced society may have altered the first so much that they are now super-humans compared to us and the changes go so deep they cannot "upgrade" a present-day person without destroying who they are. Assuming they have immortality this one must have a solution already present.
The second would probably cause less drastic changes, although again you'd be at a disadvantage compared to those people who grow up in that time period (more so if they use some advanced child rearing practices designed to maximize intelligence). Also I believe with time intelligence becomes more dependent on genetics/womb than childhood experiences, although differences may still exist. In reality the greatest problem in this case may be that their society is so alien to us we are unable to cope with it. Assuming they have immortality this one must have a solution already present.
The last one, learning, is probably the easiest to fix. Combined with some advanced drugs you can probably get up to pace in terms of sheer knowledge rather quickly, may even be able to change things which currently are in many ways hard wired.
They have benefited from the world that humanity has created for them, and then sold us back the profits of our own creation.
The world hasn't provided them with the food or housing they need to survive, they need to pay the world for those things. As a result the world is charged for what they create. Welcome to capitalism, enjoy your stay or find a commune somewhere.
This can be applied to everything; communism has nicely shown that getting rid of this in a large scale leads to horrid problems. Artists need to eat as well, if making art (or software or whatever) doesn't provide them with the money they need they'll simply find a different job.
I know all that, my reply was that it is theoretically possible to create a black hole using matter already on Earth (not all the matter but still a lot of it) such that it would, given enough time, swallow the Earth. Yes, you'd need a lot of matter but you don't need to bring it from anywhere else.
To me, trying to figure out how life originated it outside the realm of science. So far science has been unable to reproduce the phenomena. Stick to what we do know.
I'm sure you could have said the same thing about physics and the structure of matter 150 years ago. Odd, how we science actually learned about those things. See that is the difference between religion and science, science actively tries to fill in what it doesn't know while religion covers it up. We're not sure about many things; science doesn't claim to be right in any case, simply be the best answer(s) we have at this moment.
It's also utterly stupid to say that because we haven't in 100 years been able to reproduce what took nature billions of years, god must have done it. We also can't recreate the moon or an asteroid (or the sun) but we cans till say how it formed.
We know that external forces can cause changes in *living* organisms. This is otherwise known as natural selection. Anything beyond that is speculation.
You should tell that to the ID people, they're the ones who somehow got it into their heads that evolution deals with something more than everything after life began (ie: the first cell). ID supporters are challenging evolution, they are challenging the premise of natural selection NOT the theories (and there are various ones) about how life formed. There is a difference, maybe you should go look into it before making opinions on issues.
Well it depends, a big enough black hole would keep swallowing matter and thus become even bigger. As such after a long time it could swallow the earth despite not ever being bigger than it. Granted, it would need to begin at a decent size so that it doesn't evaporate instantly.
If it's the look and effect you are going for, you can achieve that more easily with a regular digital camera and a bit of post-processing.
I don't see hwo you'd do that without a lot of photoshop work (go and look at some of the fun distortions they get due to the way a scanner scans the image).
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It already has; the reason the fungus can do something is because this behavior has showed up in its dna (through mutation or other mechanisms). Fungi are simple, they don't learn in any real sense of the word they simply do what their dna tells them.
The fungus survives and passes on it's dna, I don't see what your problem is.
I never said that I do, I don't see how you could even come up with that from my post. I simply said that explaining evolution, and in general this would require explaining all the background, is pointless in a forum post to someone who will not listen. A book or website written by someone else is a much better teacher, and if someone cared they would have read one already. For example, I don't argue about the meaning of things in the bible for example because I don't have a good enough understanding of the bible. I wouldn't expect people on a Christian site to explain every little thing to me, and likewise I won't myself explain every little thing to creationists and IDers.
As for your statement on Biology, your point being? That is science, we build up answers over time, and the general ideas are fairly well agreed on. Physics for example has multiple theories in certain areas, and most people don't say it is all wrong and then claim god's will is doing it and there is no need for physics. Unlike creationists and IDers scientists don't simply agree with whatever the priest tells them; conflicts will exist and the point is that with time and experiments some agreement is reached. Biology is a very active field, as such there is a lot of such conflict right now and with time it will even out.
Well, another response might be to try to answer the question. Why do the motivations you _suspect_ are behind the questions make you unwilling to answer it, as stated?
Personally? Because it's pointless, if someone wants to understand the answer all it takes it picking up a few books on evolution or biology. Nowadays, google works just as well although books may still be better. If they haven't looked for such information, then first of all it is impossible to even explain all the required knowledge in a single post since most likely they have little concept of biology at all. That's not even getting into the need to explain how science and scientific thought functions, since most likely they lack an understanding of that as well.
Had they shown some incentive or knowledge, such as their own ideas or indicated knowledge of biology then I might be more inclined to discuss the topic with them.
Continually approaching intelligent design with a strategy of "proving it wrong" or "showing them they're wrong" is blindly missing the mark.
I need to agree with the other poster, where the heck this you pull this out of?
The problem is that ID believers are trying to prove evolution wrong, using the same crap statements as the original poster in this thread. We're not trying to prove ID wrong, we're trying to make them shut up and leave evolution alone since they don't even have the most basic knowledge of it.
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Cell phone records? I want his credit card number, bank account numbers, SS number, name, dob and so on. Maybe even his passport info for good measure.
And since the information is free and cannot be restrained, according to him, I can use all of it any way I want since I now own that copy.
the bulk of people on Death Row are black,
I recommend you look up the numbers; quoting blatantly false information from some stupid website doesn't make you look good. Oh, and most crimes are committed by black people.
... which would be a violation of HIPAA if over the internet.
If whomever sets up/designs the system doesn't know about VPNs then they have much bigger problems to worry about.
Yes, it's around $30k but you need to pay another $12k for room/board (you can try living off campus but then you'd probably pay more). Of course that is if your family makes enough money to pay that much, if it doesn't the price goes down a lot since I found the financial aid to be great.
Various stanford courses are already on the web (see scpd.stanford.edu) for students (they used to not verify but now they do). You get video, audio and shitty slides although I think they're in the process of updating the format. Class attendance in such courses is low needless to say.
Depends, if you have a masters (or even BS) from Stanford in EE or CS with a very good GPA then I bow down before your study skills. Why? Because I see what the people who get those grades are like and how much they need to study. Just because your college or field is easy doesn't mean all are.
I'd like to note that this requires finding a good book, in cases the professor may say things which books don't say or don't emphasize properly (for various reasons). Seems one of my professors started the field the class was on, and eh mentioned that this was the first year that he found the book to be really usable.
Some subjects may not have good books on them period or are too new to have books.
That is generally what the Stanford lectures, the ones that are online for students, are like. You have the video stream and then still images, of slightly but still not great quality. The video stream is actually controlled by someone (I think when record but some post-processing may be done as well), so they zoom in when needed and switch between views as required.
Yes, the COPY of the data on the usb device is LOST as in the company doesn't know where it is (or that it even existed in the first place). Let's say it contains people's credit card information, I hope you get why you wish to avoid "losing" such data.
I'd like to add that Intel undervolts their Pentium-M cpus to lower power usage already. It also lowers the speed itself of the cpu.
So given that my cpu on batteries probably switches at least once a minute and is not dead... yeah I think you get the point.
...you are aware that it is cheaper and easier to simply leave the led on all the time than to have stand by mode added in? As such that "special fancy geek-style mice" or heck any half-decent optical mouse will turn the led way down when it is not in use. It needs to be on to sense when you move the mouse. Also leds are very efficient, so the power used is minimal (under 100 mw probably).
Gas seems to be over 80% efficient, probably the same for oil. Power plants are most likely more efficient however they need to convert their energy from heat to electricity, and then transfer that electricity over power lines to your house. Neither of those is close to 100% efficient so overall electricity for heating is not very efficient.
Electric heating is less efficient than other forms of heating, as more conversion of energy is needed. So in msot cases the light bulbs are less efficient, in addition you forget that winter doesn't last the whole year in most places.
It depends on how advanced society is and how it advances. Intelligence is influenced by genetics/womb, childhood experiences and learning.
An advanced society may have altered the first so much that they are now super-humans compared to us and the changes go so deep they cannot "upgrade" a present-day person without destroying who they are. Assuming they have immortality this one must have a solution already present.
The second would probably cause less drastic changes, although again you'd be at a disadvantage compared to those people who grow up in that time period (more so if they use some advanced child rearing practices designed to maximize intelligence). Also I believe with time intelligence becomes more dependent on genetics/womb than childhood experiences, although differences may still exist. In reality the greatest problem in this case may be that their society is so alien to us we are unable to cope with it. Assuming they have immortality this one must have a solution already present.
The last one, learning, is probably the easiest to fix. Combined with some advanced drugs you can probably get up to pace in terms of sheer knowledge rather quickly, may even be able to change things which currently are in many ways hard wired.
They have benefited from the world that humanity has created for them, and then sold us back the profits of our own creation.
The world hasn't provided them with the food or housing they need to survive, they need to pay the world for those things. As a result the world is charged for what they create. Welcome to capitalism, enjoy your stay or find a commune somewhere.
This can be applied to everything; communism has nicely shown that getting rid of this in a large scale leads to horrid problems. Artists need to eat as well, if making art (or software or whatever) doesn't provide them with the money they need they'll simply find a different job.
I know all that, my reply was that it is theoretically possible to create a black hole using matter already on Earth (not all the matter but still a lot of it) such that it would, given enough time, swallow the Earth. Yes, you'd need a lot of matter but you don't need to bring it from anywhere else.
To me, trying to figure out how life originated it outside the realm of science. So far science has been unable to reproduce the phenomena. Stick to what we do know.
I'm sure you could have said the same thing about physics and the structure of matter 150 years ago. Odd, how we science actually learned about those things. See that is the difference between religion and science, science actively tries to fill in what it doesn't know while religion covers it up. We're not sure about many things; science doesn't claim to be right in any case, simply be the best answer(s) we have at this moment.
It's also utterly stupid to say that because we haven't in 100 years been able to reproduce what took nature billions of years, god must have done it. We also can't recreate the moon or an asteroid (or the sun) but we cans till say how it formed.
We know that external forces can cause changes in *living* organisms. This is otherwise known as natural selection. Anything beyond that is speculation.
You should tell that to the ID people, they're the ones who somehow got it into their heads that evolution deals with something more than everything after life began (ie: the first cell). ID supporters are challenging evolution, they are challenging the premise of natural selection NOT the theories (and there are various ones) about how life formed. There is a difference, maybe you should go look into it before making opinions on issues.
Well it depends, a big enough black hole would keep swallowing matter and thus become even bigger. As such after a long time it could swallow the earth despite not ever being bigger than it. Granted, it would need to begin at a decent size so that it doesn't evaporate instantly.
If it's the look and effect you are going for, you can achieve that more easily with a regular digital camera and a bit of post-processing.
I don't see hwo you'd do that without a lot of photoshop work (go and look at some of the fun distortions they get due to the way a scanner scans the image).