what you claim can't really be seen from satelite pictures that were shown as supposed proof.
Besides, you have no fucking clue about how you need to deal with trucks transporting chemicals obviously.
Thorough cleaning is an absolute must in quite some cases so that the next thing you transport is not going to react with residues of the previous thing you transported.
It can be said that having them around could point at the possibility, yes. That is the exact same type of argument as saying that tanks for growing this 'harmless' form of antrax point at a biological weapons program in the USA. Yes it could be, but it is no proof in itself.
There is a limit to how much storage you can attach. That limit changes a bit depending on how much you are willing to spend. Staying ahead of your needs is simply not always possible.
Not to mention that noone can see into the future, all you can do is predict when your disks will be full based on current usage. That is never gonna give you an absolutely correct picture.
Because the moderators here are obviously anti-American. Anything with slanderous anti-American content appears to be modded up but anything to the contrary is marked low or even troll. I've seen posts with blatently false and bashing content being marked "5 informative"
I think it was marked troll because 50 years of non use proves nothing whatsoeveer, all of written history agree with the point I made. I don't think that post deserved the troll moderation tho, but well, we seem to lack an 'ignorant' (original meaning of the word) moderation.
At any rate, whenever someone has something to say about the USA that might be critisism, that person is inmediately accused of being anti-American, a USA basher and such. How was that again about freedom of speech? Disagreeing, rebelling against established 'truths' and such things are as American as it gets. Please stop listening to Bush with his 'if you are not with us you are against us' simplistic idiocy and start thinking about what you see. You do not have to agree with me, but if you can only accuse me of bashing and such then the one being anti-American here is you.
It did not happen yet, that is no proof whatsoever. Chances are 100% that one day the USA will.
In case you think I am bashing the USA, consider that this also implies one day China will do this, Russia and others as well. That is, unless they either give up their nukes or their neighbors get them as well.
50 years of non use aree little to no proof in the face of some 3000+ years of written history
You did not understand what I said. I meant recover from a disk full condiion, not recover from a failure or adding a new disk or whattever.
Tthere are momenets when a new/extra disk is not an option, ie, you need the space now, and there is no shop open, your storage enclosures are all filled up already etc.
The more capacity you have, thte longer itt takes to figure out how to make the inmediately needed space available.
People who attack and kill civilians over something that those civilians have nothing to do with (ie, the 9/11 attacks) are properly labeled terrorists, even if they fight for their own freedom.
Which reminds me.. ever heard about the IRA? You may want to take a look at the relation between the USA and the IRA to see some more about double standards.
IIRC, Bush hasn't actually asked for the disarming of all these countries. He has asked that we take them out of the hands of nutcases who will use them as a first line of attack rather than a last resort; people who find ethnic cleansing an acceptable thing (he clouded the issue a bit by labeling them terrorists, but the reason they are terrorists seems clear enough to me).
Ah, you mean like Israel? lets see.. Threatening to use nukes? check. Ethnic cleansing? check.
Not to mention that them having nukes is a major reason for those 'terrorist' muslim countries trying to obtain them as well.
Yes, the request seems reasonable, but only at first glance.
The one and only reason the cold war did not turn into a hot war is because there were 2 sides that were more or less in balance and could completely destroy eachother.
Throughout history, each and every country possessing weapons with a destructive power way bigger then their neighbors have used them offensively on their neighbors.
Seeing some trucks that are typically used for transporting chemicals such as those used for refining oil, farming , and possibly also ingredients for chemical weapons, and then presenting it as 'smoking gun evidence' for Iraq producing chemical weapons?
Pointing out that the USA uses double standards is not USA bashing, it is pointing out the truth, wether you happen to like it or not. Stop the double standards and the issue will be gone.
First, I've too often found myself wishing I had something that I had deleted
Something that can easily be prevented by a well thought out short/medium/longterm storage policy.
and second, it is simply not worth my time to wade through it all and decide what I need and what I don't. Disk space costs well under 50 cents per gigabyte
The bigger the disk, the longer it takes before you get the dreaded 'disk full' message, but it will take exponentially longer to recover from it. In other words, you can't prevent the problem entirely, and having too much space will just maake for having to spend a lot more time on cleaning some of it when you really need the space and there is no shops open to get new disks or all your storage enclosures are already filled to capacity with the biggest disks you can get.
Indeed, and what is more, a bigger disk only takes a bit longer to fill up, but it takes much longer for you to clean it up for getting some space available.
Its just too bad that after that long phonecall you will have run out of power for all those functions.. and I am still wondering why people (other then some teenies) want a camera in their phone. Does none of you people have a job that includes going to places where cameras are not permitted? (that is basicly every large company building out there)
why can't they be seperate devices and communicate with BlueTooth, is it really that hard???
My old palm m505 and my about as old Ericsson (yes Ericsson, its from before they joined forces with Sony) t39m do this quite fine, so its not hard and they did it like half a decade ago already.
It's interesting that the National Assocation of Theater O shares and acronym with another organisation who actually usefulness is doing that toilet bowl spiral.
Hmm, you may not be aware of this, but after the 9/11 events, that other NATO wanted to activate the article that says that an attack against one is an attack against all, so that there would be a good basis for comming to the aid of one of its most important member states.
The party to block this was the USA government.
Hence, it is not so much useless but the USA decided to not use it instead.
distributing software on multiple flavors of Unix, and supporting it, is a serious issue, even if getting the code to compile in the first place is not so hard (as long as you know how to tell which system calls are "safe" in terms of portability, and which aren't)
It is of course a serious issue, distributing and supporting software is a serious issue, but that doesn't change that when you know what you are doing, it is quite a possible thing to do, and not even an extremely difficult thing to do.
For the specific items mentioned by the gp, I pointed at the solutions. None have to do with what calls are safe or not. I have done those things more then once and am currently supporting two such situations.
If you lack the experience to do such a thing then I bet it also looks very difficult to impossible, but that really is a matter of lack of knowledge and understanding on your side.
We have ALWAYS had a while room UPS. Call Liebert or whoever your vendor or electrician is and have them fix it. We have in our center a UPS to cover the interim time it takes for the generator to kick on. Our Generator is across the street. While we had issues after we first moved in, they have been resolved and we have lost power since and our room stayed up and so did our website. God pless the power fairies....
Within some time, where I live I will have the option of contracting 2 seperate electricity providers each with their own wiring going into the building..
But as I mentioned before, a huge UPS for the entire computer room itself is not a bad idea, but after having seen many a UPS fail in the last decade, including properly installed ones at places that can afford to spend a fortune on them, I consider them to not be extremely reliable, at least by far not as reliable as their producers would like you to believe. And as I also mentioned, I have simply seen more power failers being caused by them then being handled properly. That is in part due to mains power being very reliable here of course. This is not in one environment, it is in hundreds of environments, with devices from a wide range of producers. I will use that to base my judgement on over your annecdotal evidence if you don't mind.
Think of all the surrounding stuff: 1. Manuals 2. Installation 3. Interfaces to other parts of the OS
So what if your code compiles on Solaris and Linux. If you want to support both, you will need to write a Solaris package and an RPM package. And one system uses/bin/sh as the default user shell and the other user/bin/bash. And those two shells don't work the same way. And a solaris user might well expect the program to be installed in/opt, while the linux sysadmin might well want it in/usr/local. And what if the program relies on the system cron to schedule things. You think Linux and Solaris cron work _exactly_ the same way?
If your Unix targetted app can only install in one place then it at the very least lacks flexibility, and imho it is broken. Did it ever occur to you that this can also be a requirement for supporting different customer environments that use the exact same platform (same version even) but have different policies?
The bash/sh thing is a non issue as long as you write proper sh scripts. If you write bash scripts (like many of the people do who only know Linux) then you will have a problem and not just on Solaris.
That said, bash is available for Solaris, and it is pretty easy to write a bash script that will notice attempts to run it in sh, and spawn a bash shell with the script. I have done it a few times, it is a few lines of script, and it took all of 5 minutes to think up.
Cron? ah, but I use vixie cron on my solaris box, thats different as well isnt it?
You provide a script and a specification, the system operator for the system then implements that specification (ie, add to the crontab for user X so that it runs then and then)
Sure, there are some rules to keeping things portable, and you do require a bit of knowledge from the customer for installation, but honestly, anyone who is running a somewhat serious system for a business MUST HAVE, I repeat MUST HAVE such knowledge.
In other words, given the right ideas and way of handling things, all the things you mention are non-issues.
It is not jumping to conclusions at all. An invasion of another country to catch someone who breaks US laws while not even being in the USA is not very likely. Covert operations and breaking the law in another country in order to catch someone for breaking a US law (while that person was not in the USA when committing such a supposed crime) is not unheard of, and it is actually subject of a low intensity diplomatic conflict between the USA and the Netherlands at the moment (US agents breaking Dutch law), and that this is supported and even encouraged by the people currently in charge is pretty clear when looking at recent statements of CIA boss Porter Goss.
Considering the subject of the article and the following discussion regarding sharing network companies locating themselves outside the USA in places where their activities would not break local law, and considering the above and the general attitude of the US government, I do not think that the comment was off-topic, flamebait, a troll or jumping to conclusions. The conclusion it suggests is warranted given recennt history. It was of course completely overstating things.
My point was that the main building supply would be the giant UPS, or generator, either of which can fail in various ways. Two small UPS units, one per power supply, would just add expense. All you need is one, to sustain the server until the generator kicks in, or the main UPS is back online, or the server shuts itself down.
Ok, I understand that, and as I mentioned already, one of my customers is using such a setup (huge UPS for their computer room, and small UPSes for specific servers). As I also mentioned, they experienced quite some trouble with this setup due to the main UPS failing. But generally spoken, this idea makes sense.
Having one power supply connected to a UPS and the other not however makes a bit less sense to me. Sure, a UPS failure wont bring the machine down, but problems seldom come alone. Murphy will tell you that main power and the one power supply that has the UPS are bound to fail together. Just realize that the second UPS has quite a dramatic impact on failure chance. Lets just say that failure chance on a UPS would be 3% (just picked a random number for this, its unlikely to really be 3%), having 2 of them fail simultaneously has a 0.03 * 0.03 chance, which is really a dramatic improvement.
When it comes to being able to properly handle a power failure and guarantee that servers shutdown cleanly and everything gets saved, I would give up on the "huge" backup power for the building before giving up on a seperate UPS for each PSU.
Few humans can do this commenting in a specific style without making mistakes on the way, even more so if they do not have to deal with the consequences themselves directly.
I am not sure about power supplies using ACPI for this, but I am rather sure that on systems I dealt with, it is quite possible to detect failure of one of the power supplies. I just never looked at what interface it uses.
The problem I see with what you suggest is that you will have to have the UPS connected to mains power anyway so it stays charged. In that case it is pretty easy to just let the UPS tell the system about the power failure, and it still does not address the main reason why I suggest a setup with redundant power supplies and UPSes.
ymmv but where I live, both power supplies and UPSes are way more likely to fail then mains power and a UPS seems more likely to fail then a power supply. This means that imho there is very little point in having 2 power supplies with one UPS, it would in theory be usefull to have a second UPS and only one power supply however if you could connect both UPSes in parallel somehow.
Btw, I picked up using backup power in such a way from the telcos here indeed.
The later will probably be handled with a CSS theme (we have a handheld theme already). Low Bandwidth is a little trickier, but we will resolve that soon.
Light mode worked very well for both. Keep in mind that a majority of handheld based browsers and things like Lynx/links dont have much use for css if they support it at all. Not to mention that for handheld devices low bandwidth is almost alwas a requirement as well, considering that many people who use one for accessing the internet do so on one of the cellphone networks, and are likely to pay per byte. The 2 things are indeed different requirements, but they more often then not happen to come together so why not serve both with the same solution?
Are you high? Of course you should recommend a product because you think it's technically superior -- that's your job, that's why you're the expert.
What kind of unrealistic utopian world do you live in? That is not the job of a consultant. The job of a consultant is to find a solution that is suitable to the clients problem and advice them on getting the solution implemented. Technical superiority is an argument, but is irreleavnt if there is no good match between the proposed solution and the customer situation (which is the first and more important argument in such choices)
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Ah, so you went there and inspected those trucks?
what you claim can't really be seen from satelite pictures that were shown as supposed proof.
Besides, you have no fucking clue about how you need to deal with trucks transporting chemicals obviously.
Thorough cleaning is an absolute must in quite some cases so that the next thing you transport is not going to react with residues of the previous thing you transported.
It can be said that having them around could point at the possibility, yes. That is the exact same type of argument as saying that tanks for growing this 'harmless' form of antrax point at a biological weapons program in the USA. Yes it could be, but it is no proof in itself.
There is a limit to how much storage you can attach. That limit changes a bit depending on how much you are willing to spend. Staying ahead of your needs is simply not always possible.
Not to mention that noone can see into the future, all you can do is predict when your disks will be full based on current usage. That is never gonna give you an absolutely correct picture.
Because the moderators here are obviously anti-American. Anything with slanderous anti-American content appears to be modded up but anything to the contrary is marked low or even troll. I've seen posts with blatently false and bashing content being marked "5 informative"
I think it was marked troll because 50 years of non use proves nothing whatsoeveer, all of written history agree with the point I made. I don't think that post deserved the troll moderation tho, but well, we seem to lack an 'ignorant' (original meaning of the word) moderation.
At any rate, whenever someone has something to say about the USA that might be critisism, that person is inmediately accused of being anti-American, a USA basher and such. How was that again about freedom of speech? Disagreeing, rebelling against established 'truths' and such things are as American as it gets. Please stop listening to Bush with his 'if you are not with us you are against us' simplistic idiocy and start thinking about what you see. You do not have to agree with me, but if you can only accuse me of bashing and such then the one being anti-American here is you.
It did not happen yet, that is no proof whatsoever. Chances are 100% that one day the USA will.
In case you think I am bashing the USA, consider that this also implies one day China will do this, Russia and others as well. That is, unless they either give up their nukes or their neighbors get them as well.
50 years of non use aree little to no proof in the face of some 3000+ years of written history
It only has nothing to do with eachother whenn you ignore everything tthatt happened upto and including the founding of the state.
You also ignore the purpose and the reasoning behind the NPT, but nevermind, go on blindly following the jewish lobby overthere.
You did not understand what I said.
I meant recover from a disk full condiion, not recover from a failure or adding a new disk or whattever.
Tthere are momenets when a new/extra disk is not an option, ie, you need the space now, and there is no shop open, your storage enclosures are all filled up already etc.
The more capacity you have, thte longer itt takes to figure out how to make the inmediately needed space available.
People who attack and kill civilians over something that those civilians have nothing to do with (ie, the 9/11 attacks) are properly labeled terrorists, even if they fight for their own freedom.
Which reminds me.. ever heard about the IRA? You may want to take a look at the relation between the USA and the IRA to see some more about double standards.
IIRC, Bush hasn't actually asked for the disarming of all these countries. He has asked that we take them out of the hands of nutcases who will use them as a first line of attack rather than a last resort; people who find ethnic cleansing an acceptable thing (he clouded the issue a bit by labeling them terrorists, but the reason they are terrorists seems clear enough to me).
Ah, you mean like Israel? lets see..
Threatening to use nukes? check.
Ethnic cleansing? check.
Not to mention that them having nukes is a major reason for those 'terrorist' muslim countries trying to obtain them as well.
Yes, the request seems reasonable, but only at first glance.
The one and only reason the cold war did not turn into a hot war is because there were 2 sides that were more or less in balance and could completely destroy eachother.
Throughout history, each and every country possessing weapons with a destructive power way bigger then their neighbors have used them offensively on their neighbors.
Stop the US bashing
Seeing some trucks that are typically used for transporting chemicals such as those used for refining oil, farming , and possibly also ingredients for chemical weapons, and then presenting it as 'smoking gun evidence' for Iraq producing chemical weapons?
Pointing out that the USA uses double standards is not USA bashing, it is pointing out the truth, wether you happen to like it or not. Stop the double standards and the issue will be gone.
First, I've too often found myself wishing I had something that I had deleted
Something that can easily be prevented by a well thought out short/medium/longterm storage policy.
and second, it is simply not worth my time to wade through it all and decide what I need and what I don't. Disk space costs well under 50 cents per gigabyte
The bigger the disk, the longer it takes before you get the dreaded 'disk full' message, but it will take exponentially longer to recover from it. In other words, you can't prevent the problem entirely, and having too much space will just maake for having to spend a lot more time on cleaning some of it when you really need the space and there is no shops open to get new disks or all your storage enclosures are already filled to capacity with the biggest disks you can get.
Indeed, and what is more, a bigger disk only takes a bit longer to fill up, but it takes much longer for you to clean it up for getting some space available.
For doing 'cartoon' like animation, I would install UAE (Universal Amiga Emulator, OSS software) and run a package called Disney Animator on it.
It allows you to create animations in a way very similar to how traditional (oilskin) animations are created.
Of course you'd have to get a hold of AmigaOS 1.3 or compatible and the Disney Animator software.
No idea if this is available on other platforms also.
Its just too bad that after that long phonecall you will have run out of power for all those functions.. and I am still wondering why people (other then some teenies) want a camera in their phone. Does none of you people have a job that includes going to places where cameras are not permitted? (that is basicly every large company building out there)
why can't they be seperate devices and communicate with BlueTooth, is it really that hard???
My old palm m505 and my about as old Ericsson (yes Ericsson, its from before they joined forces with Sony) t39m do this quite fine, so its not hard and they did it like half a decade ago already.
It's interesting that the National Assocation of Theater O shares and acronym with another organisation who actually usefulness is doing that toilet bowl spiral.
Hmm, you may not be aware of this, but after the 9/11 events, that other NATO wanted to activate the article that says that an attack against one is an attack against all, so that there would be a good basis for comming to the aid of one of its most important member states.
The party to block this was the USA government.
Hence, it is not so much useless but the USA decided to not use it instead.
distributing software on multiple flavors of Unix, and supporting it, is a serious issue, even if getting the code to compile in the first place is not so hard (as long as you know how to tell which system calls are "safe" in terms of portability, and which aren't)
It is of course a serious issue, distributing and supporting software is a serious issue, but that doesn't change that when you know what you are doing, it is quite a possible thing to do, and not even an extremely difficult thing to do.
For the specific items mentioned by the gp, I pointed at the solutions. None have to do with what calls are safe or not. I have done those things more then once and am currently supporting two such situations.
If you lack the experience to do such a thing then I bet it also looks very difficult to impossible, but that really is a matter of lack of knowledge and understanding on your side.
We have ALWAYS had a while room UPS. Call Liebert or whoever your vendor or electrician is and have them fix it. We have in our center a UPS to cover the interim time it takes for the generator to kick on. Our Generator is across the street. While we had issues after we first moved in, they have been resolved and we have lost power since and our room stayed up and so did our website. God pless the power fairies....
Within some time, where I live I will have the option of contracting 2 seperate electricity providers each with their own wiring going into the building..
But as I mentioned before, a huge UPS for the entire computer room itself is not a bad idea, but after having seen many a UPS fail in the last decade, including properly installed ones at places that can afford to spend a fortune on them, I consider them to not be extremely reliable, at least by far not as reliable as their producers would like you to believe. And as I also mentioned, I have simply seen more power failers being caused by them then being handled properly. That is in part due to mains power being very reliable here of course. This is not in one environment, it is in hundreds of environments, with devices from a wide range of producers. I will use that to base my judgement on over your annecdotal evidence if you don't mind.
Think of all the surrounding stuff:
/bin/sh as the default user shell and the other user /bin/bash. And those two shells don't work the same way. And a solaris user might well expect the program to be installed in /opt, while the linux sysadmin might well want it in /usr/local. And what if the program relies on the system cron to schedule things. You think Linux and Solaris cron work _exactly_ the same way?
1. Manuals
2. Installation
3. Interfaces to other parts of the OS
So what if your code compiles on Solaris and Linux. If you want to support both, you will need to write a Solaris package and an RPM package. And one system uses
If your Unix targetted app can only install in one place then it at the very least lacks flexibility, and imho it is broken. Did it ever occur to you that this can also be a requirement for supporting different customer environments that use the exact same platform (same version even) but have different policies?
The bash/sh thing is a non issue as long as you write proper sh scripts. If you write bash scripts (like many of the people do who only know Linux) then you will have a problem and not just on Solaris.
That said, bash is available for Solaris, and it is pretty easy to write a bash script that will notice attempts to run it in sh, and spawn a bash shell with the script. I have done it a few times, it is a few lines of script, and it took all of 5 minutes to think up.
Cron? ah, but I use vixie cron on my solaris box, thats different as well isnt it?
You provide a script and a specification, the system operator for the system then implements that specification (ie, add to the crontab for user X so that it runs then and then)
Sure, there are some rules to keeping things portable, and you do require a bit of knowledge from the customer for installation, but honestly, anyone who is running a somewhat serious system for a business MUST HAVE, I repeat MUST HAVE such knowledge.
In other words, given the right ideas and way of handling things, all the things you mention are non-issues.
Any practical use of hash algorithms is extremely easy to fool with social engineering. All you have to do is get someone to trust your hash..
It is not jumping to conclusions at all. An invasion of another country to catch someone who breaks US laws while not even being in the USA is not very likely. Covert operations and breaking the law in another country in order to catch someone for breaking a US law (while that person was not in the USA when committing such a supposed crime) is not unheard of, and it is actually subject of a low intensity diplomatic conflict between the USA and the Netherlands at the moment (US agents breaking Dutch law), and that this is supported and even encouraged by the people currently in charge is pretty clear when looking at recent statements of CIA boss Porter Goss.
Considering the subject of the article and the following discussion regarding sharing network companies locating themselves outside the USA in places where their activities would not break local law, and considering the above and the general attitude of the US government, I do not think that the comment was off-topic, flamebait, a troll or jumping to conclusions. The conclusion it suggests is warranted given recennt history. It was of course completely overstating things.
My point was that the main building supply would be the giant UPS, or generator, either of which can fail in various ways. Two small UPS units, one per power supply, would just add expense. All you need is one, to sustain the server until the generator kicks in, or the main UPS is back online, or the server shuts itself down.
Ok, I understand that, and as I mentioned already, one of my customers is using such a setup (huge UPS for their computer room, and small UPSes for specific servers). As I also mentioned, they experienced quite some trouble with this setup due to the main UPS failing. But generally spoken, this idea makes sense.
Having one power supply connected to a UPS and the other not however makes a bit less sense to me. Sure, a UPS failure wont bring the machine down, but problems seldom come alone. Murphy will tell you that main power and the one power supply that has the UPS are bound to fail together. Just realize that the second UPS has quite a dramatic impact on failure chance. Lets just say that failure chance on a UPS would be 3% (just picked a random number for this, its unlikely to really be 3%), having 2 of them fail simultaneously has a 0.03 * 0.03 chance, which is really a dramatic improvement.
When it comes to being able to properly handle a power failure and guarantee that servers shutdown cleanly and everything gets saved, I would give up on the "huge" backup power for the building before giving up on a seperate UPS for each PSU.
Few humans can do this commenting in a specific style without making mistakes on the way, even more so if they do not have to deal with the consequences themselves directly.
I am not sure about power supplies using ACPI for this, but I am rather sure that on systems I dealt with, it is quite possible to detect failure of one of the power supplies. I just never looked at what interface it uses.
The problem I see with what you suggest is that you will have to have the UPS connected to mains power anyway so it stays charged. In that case it is pretty easy to just let the UPS tell the system about the power failure, and it still does not address the main reason why I suggest a setup with redundant power supplies and UPSes.
ymmv but where I live, both power supplies and UPSes are way more likely to fail then mains power and a UPS seems more likely to fail then a power supply. This means that imho there is very little point in having 2 power supplies with one UPS, it would in theory be usefull to have a second UPS and only one power supply however if you could connect both UPSes in parallel somehow.
Btw, I picked up using backup power in such a way from the telcos here indeed.
The later will probably be handled with a CSS theme (we have a handheld theme already). Low Bandwidth is a little trickier, but we will resolve that soon.
Light mode worked very well for both. Keep in mind that a majority of handheld based browsers and things like Lynx/links dont have much use for css if they support it at all. Not to mention that for handheld devices low bandwidth is almost alwas a requirement as well, considering that many people who use one for accessing the internet do so on one of the cellphone networks, and are likely to pay per byte. The 2 things are indeed different requirements, but they more often then not happen to come together so why not serve both with the same solution?
Are you high? Of course you should recommend a product because you think it's technically superior -- that's your job, that's why you're the expert.
What kind of unrealistic utopian world do you live in? That is not the job of a consultant. The job of a consultant is to find a solution that is suitable to the clients problem and advice them on getting the solution implemented. Technical superiority is an argument, but is irreleavnt if there is no good match between the proposed solution and the customer situation (which is the first and more important argument in such choices)