Ahhhhh. The gifted program you speak of seems to have little to do with any gifted programs I've been involved with. Most explicitly did _not_ deal with traditional classroom subjects and often there was some degree of latitude as to what the student chose to explore. Thus it seemed _quite_ silly that these same school sytems often could not conceive of someone who required any remediation in any subject being elegible to participate in the gifted program if that student also excelled outside of those areas hindered by the learning disability.
As for saving money on reaching the large group... I suppose it would be nice if kids could 'test out' of portions of general education allowing them the time to supplement their education on their own instead of having to waste time regurgitating what they already know and taking damage to their motivation and initiative on taxpayer dollars.
has to test at least average before being accepted.
Which makes me wonder how their test is structured. Test 'average' in what? Across the board? Since the definition of a Learning Disability revolves around the idea of a person with average or better ability in most areas who has significant difficulty in a few areas it is quite possible for someone to excel in some areas and have a learning disability in another. If a person is struggling across the board then one is no longer dealing with a 'learning disability'.
Ideally a person who has an extraordinarily easy time with some concepts would have access to opportunities to continue to stride forward in that area while gaining assistance and remediation in those areas which seem unusually difficult. Unfortunately, it's far easier to try and treat everyone like cookie-cutter images of others. It's so frustrating.
It seems like from the article they're not only interested in knowing how well the high schools are doing but how well the colleges are, especialy the ones getting federal aid or a lot of students who are getting federal scholarships.
Sure. The day someone builds me a bike with gyros or similar capabilities. I don't mind supplying the musclepower, I just don't have the balance for them.
*shrug*
It's all quite unprovable objectively as to which of us is believing in a fantasy less based in 'reality' on this subject.
As for 'constantly think about' and 'crave'... unless those word/phrases mean something different than I've always known them to mean... sorry... not this girl. (Well... the other word under contention could be 'sex', true.) But then a prevalent theory is that biology predisposes many males to think about sex nigh-constantly, so I guess if that were true for someone it could be hard to imagine that life might not be the same for other people.
I know that I'm ADHD and I often have a hard time imagining what the experience of living is like for people whose brains have a more common blend of neurochemicals flowing through.
But this is all drifting quite off-topic.
'Zactly. _If_ I were the kind of girl that could ever be found in a bar... and if on _top_ of that I went around asking guys to buy drinks for me.... then maybe I'd be the kind of chick this stuff would work on.
But I'm not, I'm here instead;)
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What 'state resources'? There was a trust fund already set up to pay for any expenses related to keeping Terry alive.
Ewww.
Ahhhhh. The gifted program you speak of seems to have little to do with any gifted programs I've been involved with. Most explicitly did _not_ deal with traditional classroom subjects and often there was some degree of latitude as to what the student chose to explore. Thus it seemed _quite_ silly that these same school sytems often could not conceive of someone who required any remediation in any subject being elegible to participate in the gifted program if that student also excelled outside of those areas hindered by the learning disability. As for saving money on reaching the large group... I suppose it would be nice if kids could 'test out' of portions of general education allowing them the time to supplement their education on their own instead of having to waste time regurgitating what they already know and taking damage to their motivation and initiative on taxpayer dollars.
has to test at least average before being accepted. Which makes me wonder how their test is structured. Test 'average' in what? Across the board? Since the definition of a Learning Disability revolves around the idea of a person with average or better ability in most areas who has significant difficulty in a few areas it is quite possible for someone to excel in some areas and have a learning disability in another. If a person is struggling across the board then one is no longer dealing with a 'learning disability'. Ideally a person who has an extraordinarily easy time with some concepts would have access to opportunities to continue to stride forward in that area while gaining assistance and remediation in those areas which seem unusually difficult. Unfortunately, it's far easier to try and treat everyone like cookie-cutter images of others. It's so frustrating.
*sigh*
LD and the gifted program are by definition mutually exclusive.
It's sad to see that almost a generation later many schools still feel this way.
*sigh* If only I could manage to _become_ the 'coder making half decent monkey money'. I'll worry about how to become _more_ than that later.
It seems like from the article they're not only interested in knowing how well the high schools are doing but how well the colleges are, especialy the ones getting federal aid or a lot of students who are getting federal scholarships.
Sure. The day someone builds me a bike with gyros or similar capabilities. I don't mind supplying the musclepower, I just don't have the balance for them.
*shrug* It's all quite unprovable objectively as to which of us is believing in a fantasy less based in 'reality' on this subject. As for 'constantly think about' and 'crave'... unless those word/phrases mean something different than I've always known them to mean... sorry... not this girl. (Well... the other word under contention could be 'sex', true.) But then a prevalent theory is that biology predisposes many males to think about sex nigh-constantly, so I guess if that were true for someone it could be hard to imagine that life might not be the same for other people. I know that I'm ADHD and I often have a hard time imagining what the experience of living is like for people whose brains have a more common blend of neurochemicals flowing through. But this is all drifting quite off-topic.
'Zactly. _If_ I were the kind of girl that could ever be found in a bar... and if on _top_ of that I went around asking guys to buy drinks for me.... then maybe I'd be the kind of chick this stuff would work on. But I'm not, I'm here instead ;)
*chuckle* See, there's that assumption that the intellectual discussions aren't the fun ones :)