On a Secure Computing Sidewinder (BSD based):
% ls -l/usr/bin | wc -l
258
On an OpenBSD 2.8 server, minimal install + gcc stuff:
$ ls -l/usr/bin | wc -l
344
On an OpenBSD 2.8 server, full install (including X):
$ ls -l/usr/bin | wc -l
373
On a Mandrake 8.0 server:
$ ls -l/usr/bin | wc -l
1136
On a RedHat 7.1 system with a fairly typical installation:
$ ls -l/usr/bin | wc -l
2203
I want/opt (with subdir's per app) back;-)
It seems to mean that there's a lot of overlap/duplication in the tool set on Linux distributions versus the centralized managed BSD distributions. A crowded/usr/bin might be a consequence of the "choice is good" Linux philosophy.
Not that I'm saying I disagree with "choice is good"...
Wouldn't releasing that intellectual property under a *more* liberal license (BSD-ish) make them even greater fools?
At least with the GPL, the intellectual property remains within the sphere of competitors that also release their source. A more liberal license would expand that sphere to include proprietary competitors, which isn't exactly useful in the "prevent going broke" thing;-)
Subject: It's Play Time: SMAC to Ship Next Week!
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:47:28 -0700
From: Kayt Sorhaindo
Organization: Loki Software, Inc.
Newsgroups: loki.games.smac
IT'S PLAY TIME
Not one, but TWO Linux games will ship next week from Loki Software,
Inc.
Tribes 2 will be HOT on the heals of the Windows release by Sierra
On-Line, and the long-awaited Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri Planetary Pack
by Firaxis will also make its Linux debut.
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri Planetary Pack will ship to resellers on
Monday, April 16, with the low MSRP of $29.95. Tribes 2 will follow suit
on Wednesday, April 18, with an MSRP of $49.95.
Can't resist both of these exciting games? Take advantage of a
promotional bundle and receive both for the special price of $59.95.
This offer is available directly from Loki and from select resellers.
[Note that the Loki webstore will not be updated for another 48 hours
with this new information]
Look for these products at your favorite online reseller.
I wish this was the case; things would be nicely cut n' dry. But the fear of being sued has scared msot companies into not even providing *any* references, and perish the very thought of providing a *bad* reference.
I suppose that news about the bad consulting practices could spread via observation of meta-data (i.e., noticing that a particular company now avoids a particular consultant like the plague and doesn't want to talk about it), but how many companies honestly put that sort of effort into background checks?
>> And health-industries are industries, aren't
>> they? Should be under.com!
In area's of the world where decent public health care isn't available, perhaps. In the rest of the non-US world this isn't a truism. I certainly hope that the TLD's aren't going to be *that* US centric...
Interesting viewpoint, that all of Slashdot's Internet viewership is from the United States. As a Canadian, I was rather glad to see that particular story (on CD-R's), though the story hit our local LUG's mailing list a few hours before it came out. I imagine that a Brazilian reader would feel the same way about this story.
I've noticed that you're a very active member of the qmail mailing list, and would like to thank you for your contributions.
On a more on-topic note, qmails redistribution rules (such as they are) have always slightly bothered me. There was a thread some months back re: RedHat and qmail that highlighted some of the feelings people had.
I think that Dan's managed to harness the usual benefits of Open Source in a slightly unusual manner: by making his code highly modular, it's fairly trivial to write alternatives to the standard modules that do what you want. This attracts a wider range of coders. A more monolithic application with sort of license would probably have languished for want of acceptance.
"A community is where people sharing a common interest (supposedly) and fighting for the same cause, all band together and fight as one."
That sounds more like a corporation than a community to me.
Corporations have a bottom line to take care of, and everything and everybody revolves around that.
Communities are diverse, often to polar extremes. Take any given country as a community... the chances that you can get large segments of the population to agree on much of anything is fairly low. Chances are that multiple politics, languages, and belief systems will be co-existing. This co-existence is usually peaceful. Sometimes it isn't. TLawful conflict generates what tomorrow looks like. The change fuels development.
If they were all the same, what would the point be? Social stasis is a form of mass insanity, IMHO.
It's a non-Linux solution, but today's HD's are larger than are needed for Win9x... so why not make two partitions, with only 1 bootable/viewable at any given time... if you need to Re-Virginize (tm) it, just use PartitionMagic to copy one partition ("substitute virgin") over the bad/ corrupted/messed up partition. Relatively painless, and it it doesn't put a load on your network.
It's almsot like they're watching these threads ... as soon as problems are mentioned, they get fixed:-)
Emacs is now rated 5 stars, and the 5-star Pico now has qualifications ("sentimental reasons"), with a "If you want an acutal rating, I would say 3" caveat attached.
For me, it's not the ratings (I already know what I want to download by the time I decide to do it), it's the mirroring... a much larger and easier-to-access distribution network than I'd seen before for Linux coupled with fast download speeds... If I can convince somebody local to be an affiliate, it'll be just about perfect for situations like when Corel released WP8 and I got it.... eventually:-)
Slashdot Mirror
On a Secure Computing Sidewinder (BSD based): /usr/bin | wc -l
/usr/bin | wc -l
/usr/bin | wc -l
/usr/bin | wc -l
/usr/bin | wc -l
/opt (with subdir's per app) back ;-)
/usr/bin might be a consequence of the "choice is good" Linux philosophy.
...
% ls -l
258
On an OpenBSD 2.8 server, minimal install + gcc stuff:
$ ls -l
344
On an OpenBSD 2.8 server, full install (including X):
$ ls -l
373
On a Mandrake 8.0 server:
$ ls -l
1136
On a RedHat 7.1 system with a fairly typical installation:
$ ls -l
2203
I want
It seems to mean that there's a lot of overlap/duplication in the tool set on Linux distributions versus the centralized managed BSD distributions. A crowded
Not that I'm saying I disagree with "choice is good"
Exactly. A better question might be: "how much have you /had/ to pay to get a fully-functional workstation?"
Payment given is not the same as payment required. I tip based on performance, whether it's a street performer or my OS.
Wouldn't releasing that intellectual property under a *more* liberal license (BSD-ish) make them even greater fools?
;-)
At least with the GPL, the intellectual property remains within the sphere of competitors that also release their source. A more liberal license would expand that sphere to include proprietary competitors, which isn't exactly useful in the "prevent going broke" thing
Subject: It's Play Time: SMAC to Ship Next Week!
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:47:28 -0700
From: Kayt Sorhaindo
Organization: Loki Software, Inc.
Newsgroups: loki.games.smac
IT'S PLAY TIME
Not one, but TWO Linux games will ship next week from Loki Software,
Inc.
Tribes 2 will be HOT on the heals of the Windows release by Sierra
On-Line, and the long-awaited Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri Planetary Pack
by Firaxis will also make its Linux debut.
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri Planetary Pack will ship to resellers on
Monday, April 16, with the low MSRP of $29.95. Tribes 2 will follow suit
on Wednesday, April 18, with an MSRP of $49.95.
Can't resist both of these exciting games? Take advantage of a
promotional bundle and receive both for the special price of $59.95.
This offer is available directly from Loki and from select resellers.
[Note that the Loki webstore will not be updated for another 48 hours
with this new information]
Look for these products at your favorite online reseller.
For more information visit www.lokigames.com.
Enjoy!
- Loki Software, Inc.
I wish this was the case; things would be nicely cut n' dry. But the fear of being sued has scared msot companies into not even providing *any* references, and perish the very thought of providing a *bad* reference.
I suppose that news about the bad consulting practices could spread via observation of meta-data (i.e., noticing that a particular company now avoids a particular consultant like the plague and doesn't want to talk about it), but how many companies honestly put that sort of effort into background checks?
>> And health-industries are industries, aren't .com!
...
>> they? Should be under
In area's of the world where decent public health care isn't available, perhaps. In the rest of the non-US world this isn't a truism. I certainly hope that the TLD's aren't going to be *that* US centric
Interesting viewpoint, that all of Slashdot's Internet viewership is from the United States. As a Canadian, I was rather glad to see that particular story (on CD-R's), though the story hit our local LUG's mailing list a few hours before it came out. I imagine that a Brazilian reader would feel the same way about this story.
I've noticed that you're a very active member of the qmail mailing list, and would like to thank you for your contributions.
On a more on-topic note, qmails redistribution rules (such as they are) have always slightly bothered me. There was a thread some months back re: RedHat and qmail that highlighted some of the feelings people had.
I think that Dan's managed to harness the usual benefits of Open Source in a slightly unusual manner: by making his code highly modular, it's fairly trivial to write alternatives to the standard modules that do what you want. This attracts a wider range of coders. A more monolithic application with sort of license would probably have languished for want of acceptance.
- Tillman Hodgson
"A community is where people sharing a common interest (supposedly) and fighting for the same cause, all band together and fight as one."
... the chances that you can get large segments of the population to agree on much of anything is fairly low. Chances are that multiple politics, languages, and belief systems will be co-existing. This co-existence is usually peaceful. Sometimes it isn't. TLawful conflict generates what tomorrow looks like. The change fuels development.
That sounds more like a corporation than a community to me.
Corporations have a bottom line to take care of, and everything and everybody revolves around that.
Communities are diverse, often to polar extremes. Take any given country as a community
If they were all the same, what would the point be? Social stasis is a form of mass insanity, IMHO.
Whle it wasn't in ROM, Tandy had a model with ;-)
DOS (ver 3.x?) burned into ROM. Booted fast,
upgraded poorly
It's a non-Linux solution, but today's HD's are ... so why not ... if you need to Re-Virginize
larger than are needed for Win9x
make two partitions, with only 1 bootable/viewable
at any given time
(tm) it, just use PartitionMagic to copy one
partition ("substitute virgin") over the bad/
corrupted/messed up partition. Relatively
painless, and it it doesn't put a load on your
network.
It's almsot like they're watching these threads :-)
... a much larger ... If I can convince somebody .... eventually :-)
... as soon as problems are mentioned, they get
fixed
Emacs is now rated 5 stars, and the 5-star Pico
now has qualifications ("sentimental reasons"),
with a "If you want an acutal rating, I would
say 3" caveat attached.
For me, it's not the ratings (I already know
what I want to download by the time I decide to
do it), it's the mirroring
and easier-to-access distribution network than
I'd seen before for Linux coupled with fast
download speeds
local to be an affiliate, it'll be just about
perfect for situations like when Corel released
WP8 and I got it