Well, there's quite abit you could try, depending on your skill level. If you're into electronics, how about making an RC car which is computer controlled? Mount a small camera on it, and then hook it up to a little short-range transmitter, and have the computer control where it goes. That'll get you a few "coolness" points.
Something alittle less adventerous might be writing a client-server app that accepts math formulas and then spools the result back out in a nice 2d/3d graph. Maybe use gnuplot as a backend? That would show that you know networking, advanced math, etc. For bonus points, write both a linux and a windows app to show you know cross-platform stuff. You could use this outside of highschool too - demonstrate it to prospective employers!:)
Okay, moving down towards simpler stuff, how about writing a program that takes all the bus routes in your area and you provide which destinations you want to go that day, and it spits out a route for you. Be sure the routes aren't hardcoded. This is the infamous "Travelling Salesman" problem in CSci. This was done way back in the 70's on the PDP-5 by a few hackers for the subway system in NY. Read Steven Levy's "Hackers - Heroes of the computer revolution" for additional historical information
Hmm.. Another idea might be to write a simple webserver. Or a chat client/server like IRC.
There was another computer language which tried to be english-like in syntax. It was called HyperCard and it was originally for the mac (although later ported to windows 95).
To do simple things it wasn't so bad.. you'd drop a button onto the card and script it like "GO TO NEXT CARD". However, things started to break down rapidly if you wanted to do complex things. For example, creating something as simple as a calculator was a monumental feat because every variable was called "IT" so "put IT into clipboard" could be seen all over the place. The language was definately english-like, but that didn't help its comprehensibility.
You see, human language is dynamic. Computer languages aren't. A computer has no way of knowing whether "delete that" means "delete the currently selected item" or "delete the item I'm thinking of". The result might be you delete C:\WINDOWS instead of C:\legal.doc
Our language is dynamic.. it has a very complex ruleset which AI people have been struggling with for a long time.
Oh, and then you have phonetic problems. "delete temp" might mean delete/tmp/*, delete the directory/tmp, or even the file/Temp. I don't want to be around when the computer makes the wrong choice!
You're talking about using a coilgun to launch something into orbit. There's a few problems with this. Do a google search for the Bifrost Project. Some undergrads at Harvard did an analysis of this. It isn't practical to launch people into orbit, but cargo that could withstand 100+ g's would be do-able.
Such a coilgun would be most effective in launching LARGE cargo, not small. Think "space-station" sized. The second problem is the deceleration upon exitting the tube.
You have this 2 meter crossection of ceramic slamming into our atmosphere at close to 18k/s - that has a tendancy to cause things to vaporize. Not only that, but the deceleration shock would be in the several thousands of g forces.. not good for any electronics.
The third and easiest to solve problem is the EMF created by the coilgun. You have an absolutely HUGE EMF operating at high frequency. Effectively, it's a localized EMP aimed right at your electronics. Without shielding, you'll have molten slag for ICs - you absolutely must shield the equipment.
We're way ahead of you. It would cost about 10,000 US dollars to launch a 2 kilo payload into geosyncronous orbit. But that's not the real problem.. the real problem is aquiring the bandwidth to transmit, which starts in the 10 million dollar range. Me and a few friends have been investigating landing a reflective "pad" on the moon which would be a couple kilometers in diameter and from which we could bounce laser light off of it from earth. If you can see the moon, you can receive our signal. This way you bypass the FCC. Of course, there are problems with this.:) But that'll get you started.
If the frequency can be easily and rapidly controlled.. you could couple this with a photodetector and match frequencies.. in effect producing an optical transistor. Such an advancement would for all intents and purposes revolutionize the industry.
Don't you mean a "victory against piracy? Heh, I'd wouldn't mind seeing a "victory for piracy";).
It doesn't matter, really. I largely ignore the press. It's like they produce stories from a script. a typical press day:
8:45am ${POLITICAL/SOCIAL_BIGWIG} found doing ${NASTYTHING}. Read our commentary by ${SELFIMPORTANT} about why a) the world is coming to an end b) how this country is going downhill, c) it was better in the old days, d) a possible trend in the sociopolitical climate of this 3rd wave postmodern industrialistic society
9:30 - Plane crash. $rand(100) people killed, $rand(100) others injured. Lots of finger-pointing, but we'll just give the families of the deceased the finger about compensation. blah blah.
9:45 - Middle east conflict! Pissed off religious zealots seize unimportant religious artifact, piss off other religious zealots. Police called in to (quell|disperse|control) (rioting|protesting|peaceful protesting|looting).
11:30 - ${SPORTSTEAM} won the ${COOLPRIZE} by a score of ${SCORE} w00t w00t! Horray for ${SPORTSTEAM}. Drink beer.
12:08 - Commercial break. Lots of them.
2:30 - End commercial break. Oh, wait.. that was the NEWS?!
4:00 - 35 Pissed off (feminists|politically correct|random special interest group|religious leaders) complain about how biased the "liberal media" is against them - this list includes rush limbaugh and a plethora of other right-wingers. Ralph Nader ad runs during commercial break.. lasts 5 seconds due to budget cutbacks.
7:30 - evening news.. weather: there's a CHANCE it'll be nice for your weekend, but don't bet on it! Some random people were run over by (bus|car|truck|police vehicle) tonight on ${STREET} *cut to useless picture of roadside* "it happened right here at ${SOMETIME}" blah blah blah...
Another katz article. He's getting better though.. this one is BEFORE the "aftermath" hits. Anyway, there will be no aftermath. Napster will get screwed, the press will report a "victory for piracy", everyone will ignore the press and use alternate resources.
This is a battle happening in the courtrooms and pressrooms.. not one happening in my livingroom, where I will happily continue to download whatever I want, whenever I want. Attached are some links you'll want to follow after the shutdown. I've been handing them out via e-mail and on IRC. Cheers!
This friday (07/28) Napster will be shut down by a federal judge. Additional information can be found at the end of this e-mail. You all know what Napster is, and alot of you probably use it. The RIAA (the people shutting Napster down) believes this will put an end to people sharing music online.
Therefore, in light of this, I am presenting a dozen alternatives to Napster which you may utilize with the same functionality as Napster. I would also urge you to boycott the RIAA by not buying any of their music from your local retail outlets or online until they drop their suit. Either way remember that any fool can make a law (or a ruling) and any fool will mind it. Consider this my way of telling the RIAA where to stick their injunction. Cheers!
~ Signal 11
Napster clones -------------- http://www.napigator.com/ Convert the Napster client to run on the OpenNAP servers, or search both networks simultaniously. Windows only.
http://opennap.sourceforge.net/ OpenNap: the open source napster server.
Napster alternatives -------------------- http://gnutella.wego.com/ From their website: "Gnutella is a fully- distributed information-sharing technology. Loosely translated, it is what puts the power of information-sharing back into your hands."
http://freenet.sourceforge.net/ FreeNet. From their website: "Freenet is a peer- to-peer network designed to allow the distribution of information over the Internet in an efficient manner, without fear of censorship. Freenet is completely decentralized, meaning that there is no person, computer, or organisation in control of Freenet or essential to its operation. This means that Freenet cannot be attacked like centralized peer-to-peer systems such as Napster.
http://sx.scour.net/ Scour Exchange. From the website: "With Scour Exchange you can share your favorite music, videos..." Windows only.
http://www.cutemx.com/ CuteMX - From the website: "CuteMX is your own personal file server and a powerful search engine rolled into one. CuteMX eliminates the hassle of setting up FTP and web servers and its real-time search provides successful results." Website also features a free music download section.
http://www.shoutcast.com/ Not exactly downloadable music, but hey, I like it. Tune into hundreds, if not thousands, of online radio stations featuring every genre you could think of.
audiofind.com - no information
Information on the shutdown --------------------------- http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/newsbursts/0,7 407,2608120,00.html
What some artists think of the RIAA ----------------------------------- http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/lov e/index.html Courtney Love does the math http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=00/07/26/235 7235&cid=191 Chris Johnson on slashdot.org
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But sysadmins are NOT unsung. Anyone willing to disclose the amount of money they make as a sysadmin?
Sure, but how many hours do we geeks work again? 60? 80? Hmm.. so let's say we're making 60k per year. Not bad, huh? Now, divide that by two... 30k per year. Less than what the average joe who's slobbering all over himself about e-commerce and how much "'dem pooter nerds are makun'".
Well, yes, that is perfectly legal. I could market a brand of black-looking drink and call it Coka Cola. Just as long as I didn't use a red can that looked alot like Coca Cola's drink. It's like how you can trademark "12th street photo shop" but another guy can open up next door and call himself "13th street photo shop".. even though the names are similar and doing similar business.. it's held as legal.
Also, keep in mind that you can have multiple businesses under the same name if they do substantially different business. For example, I could create a business that specializes in small-scale manufacturing called "Advanced Micro Devices (AMD)" and the AMD that manufactures CPUs could do nothing about it.. we're not in the same market.
Do you (or the NSA) believe that there is a significant threat to the personal communications of average americans by companies inside and/or outside the US either by interception / decryption or other means?
If so, what are those threats, and what technologies / counter-measures would you recommend (pgp, encrypted e-mail, ipv6?), etc?
Full disclosure helps, but in some cases is too extreme, does source code for a particular exploit really need to be published?
Yes. Otherwise how do you reproduce it? Say, I have this tool that can crash every Cisco router made since 1998. Do you believe me without proof? It is a put-up-or-shut-up way of keeping script kiddies from making claims they can't back up.. and making sure vendors know when something is legit.. as well as their users.
Ignorance cuts both ways, unfortunately. My school suspended me for breaking the printer. In reality, I had fixed it. I asked a friend to print to it, and they were.. perplexed.. when the printjob popped out at the front desk in front of the whole class after they had just been told it was busted.
Post the IP's of the cracker, not the cracked boxes.
False. Post the IPs of both so we can contact those admins and slashdot them with requests to fix those systems to stop the DoS, and then pressure the authorities to get involved.
You, 11223, jump to conclusions far too quickly. Not only that, but your posting history seems conspicuous to say the least... troll.
Definition of DSP: "(DSP) Computer manipulation of analog signals (commonly sound or image) which have been converted to digital form (sampled). "
Definition of SIMD: "(SIMD) (Or 'data parallel') The classification under Flynn's taxonomy for a parallel processor where many processing elements (functional units) perform the same operations on different data. There is often a central controller which broadcasts the instruction stream to all the processing elements."
As you can see, SIMD is architecture and DSP is the actual I/O. Superior DSP means more I/O. Bigger images - higher resolution. More bandwidth, the precise problem the NSA (as well as any group which monitors lots of data) would need to combat to meet the demands for Echelon. I will reiterate that this is the main problem the NSA faces is one of bandwidth management. The best board in the world won't be able to do anything without decent bandwidth.. there is a certain amount of entropy which must be transmitted between each component and compression cannot help beyond that point! Bandwidth is key to Echelon's success.
DSP!=3D. Future 3D stuff is all SIMD, baby, and SIMD can but not necessarily be used for DSP functions.
Uhh.. DSP stands for "Digital Signal Processing". I didn't say DAC, I said DSP. All those chips on your card, whatever the architecture may be, is using digital signals. Infact, the card has dedicated circuitry to perform things like FFTs very very fast, as opposed to a CPU which is more generic - it can handle everything.. just slower.
Your entire computer, in a loose sense of the word, could be considered a DSP.. although realistically probably only your video card and sound card would legitimately qualify.
Echelon isn't exactly revolutionary technology. It's signals intelligence. The NSA is very, very good at taking digital, analog, broadband, spread-spectrum, and anything else in the EM spectrum which is modulated it and cracking it. Cell phones, cablemodems, whatever. That's there job. It's what they've been doing since.. what, WWI?
It's no suprise then that their DSP technology is a quantum leap forward over what we have. Their technology would put all the 3D graphics accelerators on the market to shame.
So, you have massive signal processing capability.. whadda do? Build a few dozen supercomputers and a distributed network to feed them in an automated fashion. Today's society is flooded with signals - microwave dishes, cell phone, satellite, GSM phones, cablemodem, Voice-over-IP, ${BUZZWORD}, etc. You can't *possibly* process that in the time you need given the volume of information out there. It'd be like searching for a needle in a haystack. And the EM spectrum is big. Really big. So most of the network MUST by necessity be automated.
The interesting bits are sent from the autonomous nodes that make up Echelon into a centralized repository (the supercomputers?) for further processing. Interesting information is probably e-mailed to the desk of the agent who made the query (or printed out, if they're like most of us and still don't have "paperless offices").
Hell, what they have we'll have.. in about 5-8 years. Biggest threat - accidentally triggering the damn thing.:) bomb, president, anarchy, nuclear storage, timing....
I was using one of the 5.x distributions for reference... but I didn't mean to single out redhat.. it's typical to turn everything on in the unix world and trust that the user knows what they're doing (ya right!).:(
I keep trying to pronounce YOPY and it keeps coming back "yuppie". Which is probably true.. that's who these things are designed for, eh? So, in that case, it's not coming into the Temple of Tech that is my house. Yeesh.. let's go beat up their marketing department in a massive game of Unreal Tournament.
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Something alittle less adventerous might be writing a client-server app that accepts math formulas and then spools the result back out in a nice 2d/3d graph. Maybe use gnuplot as a backend? That would show that you know networking, advanced math, etc. For bonus points, write both a linux and a windows app to show you know cross-platform stuff. You could use this outside of highschool too - demonstrate it to prospective employers! :)
Okay, moving down towards simpler stuff, how about writing a program that takes all the bus routes in your area and you provide which destinations you want to go that day, and it spits out a route for you. Be sure the routes aren't hardcoded. This is the infamous "Travelling Salesman" problem in CSci. This was done way back in the 70's on the PDP-5 by a few hackers for the subway system in NY. Read Steven Levy's "Hackers - Heroes of the computer revolution" for additional historical information
Hmm.. Another idea might be to write a simple webserver. Or a chat client/server like IRC.
That should get you started.. Cheers!
*CLiCK!*
-39180 - humor.dll - permission denied. Does the file exist?
"curly bracket space print eff open parent-thhh quote hello world quote close parenth-thhh... boom chakalaka... semicolon..."
To do simple things it wasn't so bad.. you'd drop a button onto the card and script it like "GO TO NEXT CARD". However, things started to break down rapidly if you wanted to do complex things. For example, creating something as simple as a calculator was a monumental feat because every variable was called "IT" so "put IT into clipboard" could be seen all over the place. The language was definately english-like, but that didn't help its comprehensibility.
You see, human language is dynamic. Computer languages aren't. A computer has no way of knowing whether "delete that" means "delete the currently selected item" or "delete the item I'm thinking of". The result might be you delete C:\WINDOWS instead of C:\legal.doc
Our language is dynamic.. it has a very complex ruleset which AI people have been struggling with for a long time.
Oh, and then you have phonetic problems. "delete temp" might mean delete /tmp/*, delete the directory /tmp, or even the file /Temp. I don't want to be around when the computer makes the wrong choice!
Such a coilgun would be most effective in launching LARGE cargo, not small. Think "space-station" sized. The second problem is the deceleration upon exitting the tube.
You have this 2 meter crossection of ceramic slamming into our atmosphere at close to 18k/s - that has a tendancy to cause things to vaporize. Not only that, but the deceleration shock would be in the several thousands of g forces.. not good for any electronics.
The third and easiest to solve problem is the EMF created by the coilgun. You have an absolutely HUGE EMF operating at high frequency. Effectively, it's a localized EMP aimed right at your electronics. Without shielding, you'll have molten slag for ICs - you absolutely must shield the equipment.
Just some thoughts...
We're way ahead of you. It would cost about 10,000 US dollars to launch a 2 kilo payload into geosyncronous orbit. But that's not the real problem.. the real problem is aquiring the bandwidth to transmit, which starts in the 10 million dollar range. Me and a few friends have been investigating landing a reflective "pad" on the moon which would be a couple kilometers in diameter and from which we could bounce laser light off of it from earth. If you can see the moon, you can receive our signal. This way you bypass the FCC. Of course, there are problems with this. :) But that'll get you started.
If the frequency can be easily and rapidly controlled.. you could couple this with a photodetector and match frequencies.. in effect producing an optical transistor. Such an advancement would for all intents and purposes revolutionize the industry.
I've had that idea for a long time... glad great minds think alike. :)
With 800+ karma points.. you better believe it! :)
Don't you mean a "victory against piracy? Heh, I'd wouldn't mind seeing a "victory for piracy" ;).
It doesn't matter, really. I largely ignore the press. It's like they produce stories from a script. a typical press day:
8:45am ${POLITICAL/SOCIAL_BIGWIG} found doing ${NASTYTHING}. Read our commentary by ${SELFIMPORTANT} about why a) the world is coming to an end b) how this country is going downhill, c) it was better in the old days, d) a possible trend in the sociopolitical climate of this 3rd wave postmodern industrialistic society
9:30 - Plane crash. $rand(100) people killed, $rand(100) others injured. Lots of finger-pointing, but we'll just give the families of the deceased the finger about compensation. blah blah.
9:45 - Middle east conflict! Pissed off religious zealots seize unimportant religious artifact, piss off other religious zealots. Police called in to (quell|disperse|control) (rioting|protesting|peaceful protesting|looting).
11:30 - ${SPORTSTEAM} won the ${COOLPRIZE} by a score of ${SCORE} w00t w00t! Horray for ${SPORTSTEAM}. Drink beer.
12:08 - Commercial break. Lots of them.
2:30 - End commercial break. Oh, wait.. that was the NEWS?!
4:00 - 35 Pissed off (feminists|politically correct|random special interest group|religious leaders) complain about how biased the "liberal media" is against them - this list includes rush limbaugh and a plethora of other right-wingers. Ralph Nader ad runs during commercial break.. lasts 5 seconds due to budget cutbacks.
7:30 - evening news.. weather: there's a CHANCE it'll be nice for your weekend, but don't bet on it! Some random people were run over by (bus|car|truck|police vehicle) tonight on ${STREET} *cut to useless picture of roadside* "it happened right here at ${SOMETIME}" blah blah blah...
As you can see, I know the media... :/
This is a battle happening in the courtrooms and pressrooms.. not one happening in my livingroom, where I will happily continue to download whatever I want, whenever I want. Attached are some links you'll want to follow after the shutdown. I've been handing them out via e-mail and on IRC. Cheers!
This friday (07/28) Napster will be shut down by a federal judge. Additional information can be found at the end of this e-mail. You all know what Napster is, and alot of you probably use it. The RIAA (the people shutting Napster down) believes this will put an end to people sharing music online.
Therefore, in light of this, I am presenting a dozen alternatives to Napster which you may utilize with the same functionality as Napster. I would also urge you to boycott the RIAA by not buying any of their music from your local retail outlets or online until they drop their suit. Either way remember that any fool can make a law (or a ruling) and any fool will mind it. Consider this my way of telling the RIAA where to stick their injunction. Cheers!
~ Signal 11
Napster clones
--------------
http://www.napigator.com/ Convert the Napster client to run on the OpenNAP servers, or search both networks simultaniously. Windows only.
http://opennap.sourceforge.net/
OpenNap: the open source napster server.
Napster alternatives
--------------------
http://gnutella.wego.com/
From their website: "Gnutella is a fully- distributed information-sharing technology. Loosely translated, it is what puts the power of information-sharing back into your hands."
http://freenet.sourceforge.net/
FreeNet. From their website: "Freenet is a peer- to-peer network designed to allow the distribution of information over the Internet in an efficient manner, without fear of censorship. Freenet is completely decentralized, meaning that there is no person, computer, or organisation in control of Freenet or essential to its operation. This means that Freenet cannot be attacked like centralized peer-to-peer systems such as Napster.
http://sx.scour.net/
Scour Exchange. From the website: "With Scour Exchange you can share your favorite music, videos..." Windows only.
http://music.lycos.com/mp3/
Lycos' MP3 search engine.
http://www.cutemx.com/
CuteMX - From the website: "CuteMX is your own personal file server and a powerful search engine rolled into one. CuteMX eliminates the hassle of setting up FTP and web servers and its real-time search provides successful results." Website also features a free music download section.
http://www.shoutcast.com/
Not exactly downloadable music, but hey, I like it. Tune into hundreds, if not thousands, of online radio stations featuring every genre you could think of.
audiofind.com - no information
Information on the shutdown7 407,2608120,00.html
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http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/newsbursts/0,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20 000726/aponline200558_000. htm
http://www.msnbc.com/news/437532.asp?cp1=1
What some artists think of the RIAAv e/index.html 5 7235&cid=191
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http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/lo
Courtney Love does the math
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=00/07/26/23
Chris Johnson on slashdot.org
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Sure, but how many hours do we geeks work again? 60? 80? Hmm.. so let's say we're making 60k per year. Not bad, huh? Now, divide that by two... 30k per year. Less than what the average joe who's slobbering all over himself about e-commerce and how much "'dem pooter nerds are makun'".
Also, keep in mind that you can have multiple businesses under the same name if they do substantially different business. For example, I could create a business that specializes in small-scale manufacturing called "Advanced Micro Devices (AMD)" and the AMD that manufactures CPUs could do nothing about it.. we're not in the same market.
Just some food for thought.
If so, what are those threats, and what technologies / counter-measures would you recommend (pgp, encrypted e-mail, ipv6?), etc?
Shhh! I'm trying out my new troll magnet.
Yes. Otherwise how do you reproduce it? Say, I have this tool that can crash every Cisco router made since 1998. Do you believe me without proof? It is a put-up-or-shut-up way of keeping script kiddies from making claims they can't back up.. and making sure vendors know when something is legit.. as well as their users.
Yup. Been there, done that.
The flip side is that without full disclosure, we're creating an army of script kiddies and crackers whom we cannot track.
Did I mention anything about hacking those boxes?
Post the IP's of the cracker, not the cracked boxes.
False. Post the IPs of both so we can contact those admins and slashdot them with requests to fix those systems to stop the DoS, and then pressure the authorities to get involved.
You, 11223, jump to conclusions far too quickly. Not only that, but your posting history seems conspicuous to say the least... troll.
"(DSP) Computer manipulation of analog signals (commonly sound or image) which have been converted to digital form (sampled). "
Definition of SIMD:
"(SIMD) (Or 'data parallel') The classification under Flynn's taxonomy for a parallel processor where many processing elements (functional units) perform the same operations on different data. There is often a central controller which broadcasts the instruction stream to all the processing elements."
As you can see, SIMD is architecture and DSP is the actual I/O. Superior DSP means more I/O. Bigger images - higher resolution. More bandwidth, the precise problem the NSA (as well as any group which monitors lots of data) would need to combat to meet the demands for Echelon. I will reiterate that this is the main problem the NSA faces is one of bandwidth management. The best board in the world won't be able to do anything without decent bandwidth.. there is a certain amount of entropy which must be transmitted between each component and compression cannot help beyond that point! Bandwidth is key to Echelon's success.
Uhh.. DSP stands for "Digital Signal Processing". I didn't say DAC, I said DSP. All those chips on your card, whatever the architecture may be, is using digital signals. Infact, the card has dedicated circuitry to perform things like FFTs very very fast, as opposed to a CPU which is more generic - it can handle everything.. just slower.
Your entire computer, in a loose sense of the word, could be considered a DSP.. although realistically probably only your video card and sound card would legitimately qualify.
Just stay online for another minute so I can complete the trace please.
It's no suprise then that their DSP technology is a quantum leap forward over what we have. Their technology would put all the 3D graphics accelerators on the market to shame.
So, you have massive signal processing capability.. whadda do? Build a few dozen supercomputers and a distributed network to feed them in an automated fashion. Today's society is flooded with signals - microwave dishes, cell phone, satellite, GSM phones, cablemodem, Voice-over-IP, ${BUZZWORD}, etc. You can't *possibly* process that in the time you need given the volume of information out there. It'd be like searching for a needle in a haystack. And the EM spectrum is big. Really big. So most of the network MUST by necessity be automated.
The interesting bits are sent from the autonomous nodes that make up Echelon into a centralized repository (the supercomputers?) for further processing. Interesting information is probably e-mailed to the desk of the agent who made the query (or printed out, if they're like most of us and still don't have "paperless offices").
Hell, what they have we'll have.. in about 5-8 years. Biggest threat - accidentally triggering the damn thing. :) bomb, president, anarchy, nuclear storage, timing....
I was using one of the 5.x distributions for reference... but I didn't mean to single out redhat.. it's typical to turn everything on in the unix world and trust that the user knows what they're doing (ya right!). :(
I keep trying to pronounce YOPY and it keeps coming back "yuppie". Which is probably true.. that's who these things are designed for, eh? So, in that case, it's not coming into the Temple of Tech that is my house. Yeesh.. let's go beat up their marketing department in a massive game of Unreal Tournament.