I want to know more about what occurred from May 2 on. So what happened to cause the DA to drop the criminal investigation? And what exactly occurred where the judge admitted that he didn't read the opposition before ruling on June 17th?
Personally,
I'll install this in a heartbeat when.....
They have the web developer plugin available for firefox working in netscape with the IE rendering engine. Retouching my CSS on the fly and seeing the results instantaneously in the browser is GOOD.
I'd kill to have half the tools in the IE engine that I do in the firefox engine. I'd still rather browse with firefox though...
Gee, it would be good if you actually read the article. The product works and is ready to go, in the time frame they projected. Motorola isn't at fault in the slightest here.
The real problem is that the cell carriers are looking at this and going "Where's OUR profit in this?" Verizon and Cingular are trying to extort more money out of the deal, so they're stonewalling on selling the phone until apple/motorola cut them in for some new revenue streams. Not that this is new for Verizion. They want a way to charge for every new feature that goes into the phones...
Ahh, I saw your response to my post. You're right, the terms of service do spell it out.
I certainly wouldnt call the original poster insane though- I doubt he's expecting to get "free" refills of milk- he simply expected to be able to have the old account tied to the key deleted and a new one created, which he would pay for. I don't think it's an unreasonable expectation, but as you observed, the EULA says "no".
Ahh, I long for the days of Borland's "like a book" license agreements. You're allowed to load the software on as many machines as you like, just use only one copy of it at a time. Makes a lot of sense, even if it is hard to enforce.
--Ikarius
Okay, the clause in the EULA says that you CAN sell the game to another end user. The folks saying otherwise are apparently wearing blinders.
The likelihood here is that Blizzard's legal department used their standard boilerplate for the EULA, and didn't realize some of the issues there were going to be with software keys vs. accounts.
I would guess that the folks whom you have spoken to so far really dont *know* the terms in the EULA, just what they've been trained to dole out to users.
The legal folks probably hope that this doesn't get back to the higher-ups, as I'd guess that some folks could be in for termination if the bosses realize the standard EULA was used. The bosses probably never intended for WoW to be transferred between end users.
You'll be fighting an uphill battle to get to someone who actually is willing to go through the EULA, and chase this. A court case? You could, but seems like a lot of time and effort. I might try e-mailing someone known to be high up in the blizzard food-chain about this, first.
Is it worth your effort to fight through this in order to have saved $5 or $10 on the retail box? Nope. Is it worth it to fight for the principal of holding a corporate entity accountable to the end users? Very well could be.
--Ikarius
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I want to know more about what occurred from May 2 on. So what happened to cause the DA to drop the criminal investigation? And what exactly occurred where the judge admitted that he didn't read the opposition before ruling on June 17th?
Personally, I'll install this in a heartbeat when..... They have the web developer plugin available for firefox working in netscape with the IE rendering engine. Retouching my CSS on the fly and seeing the results instantaneously in the browser is GOOD. I'd kill to have half the tools in the IE engine that I do in the firefox engine. I'd still rather browse with firefox though...
Gee, I think someone may have some anger issues....
Gee, it would be good if you actually read the article. The product works and is ready to go, in the time frame they projected. Motorola isn't at fault in the slightest here. The real problem is that the cell carriers are looking at this and going "Where's OUR profit in this?" Verizon and Cingular are trying to extort more money out of the deal, so they're stonewalling on selling the phone until apple/motorola cut them in for some new revenue streams. Not that this is new for Verizion. They want a way to charge for every new feature that goes into the phones...
Ahh, I saw your response to my post. You're right, the terms of service do spell it out. I certainly wouldnt call the original poster insane though- I doubt he's expecting to get "free" refills of milk- he simply expected to be able to have the old account tied to the key deleted and a new one created, which he would pay for. I don't think it's an unreasonable expectation, but as you observed, the EULA says "no". Ahh, I long for the days of Borland's "like a book" license agreements. You're allowed to load the software on as many machines as you like, just use only one copy of it at a time. Makes a lot of sense, even if it is hard to enforce. --Ikarius
Okay, the clause in the EULA says that you CAN sell the game to another end user. The folks saying otherwise are apparently wearing blinders. The likelihood here is that Blizzard's legal department used their standard boilerplate for the EULA, and didn't realize some of the issues there were going to be with software keys vs. accounts. I would guess that the folks whom you have spoken to so far really dont *know* the terms in the EULA, just what they've been trained to dole out to users. The legal folks probably hope that this doesn't get back to the higher-ups, as I'd guess that some folks could be in for termination if the bosses realize the standard EULA was used. The bosses probably never intended for WoW to be transferred between end users. You'll be fighting an uphill battle to get to someone who actually is willing to go through the EULA, and chase this. A court case? You could, but seems like a lot of time and effort. I might try e-mailing someone known to be high up in the blizzard food-chain about this, first. Is it worth your effort to fight through this in order to have saved $5 or $10 on the retail box? Nope. Is it worth it to fight for the principal of holding a corporate entity accountable to the end users? Very well could be. --Ikarius