Of course! We wont let facts about their activities get in the way of our delusional world. If you lose rights to watch that puppet show, the populace will never hear the end of it!
If you have evidence that someone isn't reporting all their income, report them to the IRS. That's a crime.
If it is illegal to remove income as taxable income, it is not a crime. Failure to recognize and obvious fact for a 3rd time now, you have to go back to my original question. If you have no intention of acknowledging facts, don't try to debate.
Now you're using the term "potential income". I don't know what that is, or why someone should be taxed on income that is only potentially theirs.
Similar problem here as we have above with you being ignorant, or playing ignorant. Ignorance is not necessarily an insult, and your immediate offense to the term indicates a high degree of ignorance. I freely admit with numerous subjects that I am ignorant. If I find the need or desire to debate the subject, I go and learn as much as I can so that I am no longer ignorant. With that out of the way..
It is potentially taxed income because there are numerous variables defined in the tax code. For an easy example let us consider charitable contributions. If you give away every penny, there is no benefit. If you give enough to reach the maximum, there is a benefit. In the complexity of our tax code, several deductions may overlap. Moving a slider in one direction or another results in less taxable income. Also, with things like charitable contributions they are voluntary. Three people may have nearly identical income, property, and marital status. One may be a prick and never donate a penny, another may go for the max, and another may make donations that are only partially deductible. The same issues exist with investments, but much more complex. This is why the tax code assumes "potential" while determining what your tax rate is.
Of course. But that's different than not claiming the income in the first place, and deductions aren't limited to certain people. Of course if you can't afford to give $10,000 to charity you can't claim a $10,000 deduction on your tax form. You didn't give $10,000 to charity, the charity didn't get the benefit of $10,000, so why would you expect to be able to deduct a charitable contribution of that size that you didn't make? You also still have whatever money you didn't donate, and the rich person does not. He can't spend the $10,000 he gave to charity, the charity did get the benefit of $10,000, and so he should get the benefit of the deduction.
Wrong, see what I wrote above and actually study some of the tax code.
Huh? I fail to see any significance to your guesses here. I don't know how much a rich person puts in a "tax account", and I don't really care.
Guessing? How about basic common sense. If you spend $2.00 purchasing a $1.50 coupon, would you do it? I'm sure to fit your broken logic you could say "yeah", but any sane person would tell you that you are a fool to do so.
You never showed my numbers were upside down, you used rhetorical fallacy to claim that your numbers override facts. The system is absolutely rigged, and you either won't admit it or don't care.
To claim the rich pay a higher percentage in tax you must also believe Hollywood accounting that shows block buster movies lose money. It's legal because people are on average pretty ignorant and believe everything they are told. It's a great fantasy, but it is a fantasy. Save future statements about how honest both the rich and Hollywood are. Fuck, even rich people tell you the system is grossly unfair. Or wait, I guess Warren Buffet is a liar too right?
Poppycock! Nothing was implied at all. The statement I made was very clear. All of our rights are being attacked by people currently in power. If you read other comments I make regularly, you will see comments like "there is no difference between R and D in practice, this is a left-right paradigm that people want you to believe".
Your last paragraph is interesting, and becoming more common of a question. The simple answer is that you need to ignore the paradigms being pushed on to you and start your own political programs. Petition to get people you trust on ballots and ignore candidates given to you by elites. Just as important, is to teach other people that the left-right paradigms are fake and get them on board with a plan to remove career politicians from politics. One of my favorite quotes is from Socrates who states "The only people that should be representatives in a Republic are those that don't want the job".
I always recommend that people read and study Philosophy, namely "The Republic" which is the blueprint for our form of Government. Study will show you exactly why Socrates said what he did, in addition to showing you that society would function very well without career politicians.
In closing, pay attention to that 2nd paragraph. Our founding fathers built in rules for us to make very peaceful revolutions. This is why the elites currently in power are trying so hard to dismantle the Constitution and Bill of Rights. The work for us will be difficult, but will save years of misery and lots of bloodshed.
Apologies for missing your 2nd point. I'm saying that in large complex models, AMD still renders about the same or better in those applications. The difference is very minimal however. In other applications like Muses, the AMD chip is very noticeably better.
DirectX is optimized for Intel's chip, but also not as fast for real time graphics as OpenGL. AMD does not share the same advantages because of DirectX design, not necessarily their chips.
Be honest. It's the extra I/O bandwidth that has kept intel in the market for FPU heavy loads and not a better FPU or chip use of FPU. AMD has always had advantages there because of architecture principles that Intel does not have. AMD has always made efforts to make the FPU the fastest and easiest access for the CPU, and memory access second. I still think the AMD FPU is superior to Intel, which is why Intel shares a FPU between 2 cores. Gating is faster, and more instructions are allowed in the FPU at the same time. Not very advantageous for a single large problem, but threaded small problems see an advantage.
Two immediate problems. First, you should really check facts. The millionaire tax rate up until the 1970s has always been in the 80-90% range (since the inception of income tax in the US). This is why I stated very clearly that tax rates are public knowledge and easy to find. The second problem should be painfully obvious: everything you said is based on false data and therefor untrue.
Bits of what you said are false for a different reason. The reason rich people can move their money overseas is due to deregulation which occurred at the same time as tax rates dropped. Again, go read history and verify facts before making false claims. Countless economists have stated the problems, and much more efficiently than myself since I'm not an economist by trade.
It is illegal for the Government to make information classified for the express purpose of cover up. Since that is true, your argument is pure bullshit and the person you responded too is incorrect.
If you believe everything the establishment is telling you, shame on you. 'There is sunshine and fresh air outside of the cave, but most slaves are content to sit and watch their evening puppet shows. They fear change so much that they will vehemently defend lies intended to keep them in the cave.' - Socrates
The debates are not just about Gun control, but all of the basic human rights defined by the Constitution and Bill of Rights that the self proclaimed elites have been declaring war on. Free speech, Privacy and Security, etc...
Guns are a primary argument because the elites fear a bunch of serfs that can defend themselves. This has been the case since the advent of any Government, often giving rise to non-elites with too much power being killed.
Don't ignore the obvious. I agree that the IRS may not have been the best example, however to deny it had impact is rubbish. If I started a political action group called "liberty returned" or something, I would not have been able to qualify the organization. This means that I can not necessarily accept donations legally as I'm not a charitable organization. Fringe case? Perhaps, but lets look at some other government leaks, and actions by the laughably "free press" in the US.
It was leaked that DHS, DOJ, FBI, CIA, and Media (Fox/NBC/ABC/CNN) colluded to undermine the OWS movement. This collusion included illegally arresting citizens, planting agent provocateurs, surveillance, and harassment. The biggie is the slander and libel by main stream media presenting the group as a bunch of pot smoking free loaders including leadership, who were actually demanding justice for executives committing illegal acts (robo-scams etc...).
Main Stream media made a circus of the election process. This was obvious to my 13 year old kid, so you should have caught on too! Portraying anyone the established didn't want as "crazy" and "insane" if they portrayed them at all.
Go investigate the Ross Perot blackmail case. You don't think that the surveillance agencies make cases like this much easier to perform, and much easier to hide? Yes folks, the corruption really is that bad.
Try always. in place of that. It was released the other day, FISA has approved 100% of the requests it has received from agencies. Giving rise to a reporter calling it a rubber stamp(correctly)
First, Bulldozer was not a high performance chip, and never intended to be a high performance chip. It was meant to be a PC based equivalent of a Niagra capable of massive threading. So let's compare apples to apples shall we?
AMD Still considers the Athalon to be the performance chip. Comparing apples to apples, maybe you are asking how a chip rated 300MHz lower be faster? First, the length of the bus needed to get from inbound to FPU is much longer on Intel. Cache is much larger on AMD, prefetch is superior especially for FP instructions. That has a lot to do with the bigger caches. Next, memory is also closer to the front of the chip. Most FPU based apps are also memory intensive. An Intel operation would start at the front of the chip and move to the back. Every memory or FPU operation requires traversing the full chip bus, then the same long ride back. That movement is not required in the AMD design, and that efficiency does make a difference.
If Intel had really doubled FPU performance AMD would have been out of business. Yet they are not, and I can still get exceptional performance off of them for heavy FPU loads. I/O and integer based, Intel beats them pretty solidly and has for quite a long time.
Seems like we agree that it all depends on the app stack, our description of "why" are similar. Generally people claiming that Intel is that much better have never worked with AMD, or never compared high end chip to high end chip.
Since I can't detect whether or not your comment is in jest, I'll tell you to research the impact this is having on oceanic fish that humans rely on for food. Killing off predators in theory gives you more goodies, but in practice that is false. Top level predators keep other predators which we don't eat in check. Hammerhead populations would be the easiest to study, and the impact decimating these predators has had on other oceanic fish is easy to find.
I am pretty sure a good number of people have been making that statement for a very long time. Xbox finally became a viable money maker. Now however, Indy games and tablets are all over the place and consoles are not as exciting as they used to be. Add to that, the always on DRM and how many customers that will piss off (in addition to not being able to play old/used games at least to some extent) and they may no longer be profitable after the next release. Win8 is a disaster, and no matter how much money MS dumps into advertizing people will still demand that a desktop OS look and behave like a desktop OS. Until it does that natively, most consumers don't want it. Office has no innovation either. The same Visio templates that shipped by MS 5 years ago are exactly what we have today. Countless people still need to get usable templates from "visiocafe" in order to make the product useful. Ribbonized Word and Excel really don't give people any more than what they had in previous versions, so consumers see upgrades as a huge maintenance fee instead of an upgrade. I won't even mention Windows Phone which is in the same boat as WebOS, and WebOS was a vastly superior Phone and Tablet OS in my opinion.
As mentioned in a different post, I think this really depends on what your applications are doing. For floating point operations, AMD tends to be faster than Intel. If you are performing mostly integer based, Intel will be faster. Since both chips can outperform I/O, in my opinion it is a toss up on many operations. If I'm waiting on disk or network I/O, it really does not matter how fast the chip is.
Two slowly sinking ships tying together to make a barge? I don't see this relationship really lasting, but then again Best Buy and MS both have to make some hefty changes in order to stay in business long term. Maybe this will give them the time they need?
AMD has superior FP capabilities. In both CAD and CAE benchmarks, honors always go to AMD for the math. But what really hit me as a big-ole liar fanboi comment was the one about CAD rendering. The majority of that is not related to your CPU, but your GPU. The portion of GPU that is CPU related still benefits from AMD chips which have the memory at the front end of the chip, compared to the Intel that has the memory pipeline as far back as possible in order to claim "we have more MHz than AMD".
Video compression really depends on who's chip the code has been modified for (if any). As with CAE math, native chip math functions are much faster on AMD.
I run annual benchmarks inside companies for Intel vs. AMD and have for over a decade. These benchmarks show real world performance of Unigraphics, CATIA, HyperMesh, MSC Patran, Ansys, and Muses. CATIA and Ansys are always the worst on AMD, as they have both been assimilated by DirectX over OpenGL with no option to force OpenGL. They still however slightly favor AMD over Intel.
I don't rely on Tom's hardware or someone else for opinion, since Tom's showed us long ago that you can't trust "independent" benchmarks for much. I have read benchmark reports from others that indicate the opposite, but have yet to have anyone recreate their results for me. I use real decks and models from real products, I don't use code exercising a subset of CPU instructions as fast as it possibly can.
<shrug> I never pay that much for a CPU, since I have had exceptional experiences with the AMD CPUs. In my experiences, they have always outperformed Intel's processors, and generally cost half as much. I could overclock them if I wanted, and back in the Athalon 800'ish series did.
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Of course! We wont let facts about their activities get in the way of our delusional world. If you lose rights to watch that puppet show, the populace will never hear the end of it!
Personally I love symbolic logic.
If you have evidence that someone isn't reporting all their income, report them to the IRS. That's a crime.
If it is illegal to remove income as taxable income, it is not a crime. Failure to recognize and obvious fact for a 3rd time now, you have to go back to my original question. If you have no intention of acknowledging facts, don't try to debate.
Now you're using the term "potential income". I don't know what that is, or why someone should be taxed on income that is only potentially theirs.
Similar problem here as we have above with you being ignorant, or playing ignorant. Ignorance is not necessarily an insult, and your immediate offense to the term indicates a high degree of ignorance. I freely admit with numerous subjects that I am ignorant. If I find the need or desire to debate the subject, I go and learn as much as I can so that I am no longer ignorant. With that out of the way..
It is potentially taxed income because there are numerous variables defined in the tax code. For an easy example let us consider charitable contributions. If you give away every penny, there is no benefit. If you give enough to reach the maximum, there is a benefit. In the complexity of our tax code, several deductions may overlap. Moving a slider in one direction or another results in less taxable income. Also, with things like charitable contributions they are voluntary. Three people may have nearly identical income, property, and marital status. One may be a prick and never donate a penny, another may go for the max, and another may make donations that are only partially deductible. The same issues exist with investments, but much more complex. This is why the tax code assumes "potential" while determining what your tax rate is.
Of course. But that's different than not claiming the income in the first place, and deductions aren't limited to certain people. Of course if you can't afford to give $10,000 to charity you can't claim a $10,000 deduction on your tax form. You didn't give $10,000 to charity, the charity didn't get the benefit of $10,000, so why would you expect to be able to deduct a charitable contribution of that size that you didn't make? You also still have whatever money you didn't donate, and the rich person does not. He can't spend the $10,000 he gave to charity, the charity did get the benefit of $10,000, and so he should get the benefit of the deduction.
Wrong, see what I wrote above and actually study some of the tax code.
Huh? I fail to see any significance to your guesses here. I don't know how much a rich person puts in a "tax account", and I don't really care.
Guessing? How about basic common sense. If you spend $2.00 purchasing a $1.50 coupon, would you do it? I'm sure to fit your broken logic you could say "yeah", but any sane person would tell you that you are a fool to do so.
You never showed my numbers were upside down, you used rhetorical fallacy to claim that your numbers override facts. The system is absolutely rigged, and you either won't admit it or don't care.
To claim the rich pay a higher percentage in tax you must also believe Hollywood accounting that shows block buster movies lose money. It's legal because people are on average pretty ignorant and believe everything they are told. It's a great fantasy, but it is a fantasy. Save future statements about how honest both the rich and Hollywood are. Fuck, even rich people tell you the system is grossly unfair. Or wait, I guess Warren Buffet is a liar too right?
Poppycock! Nothing was implied at all. The statement I made was very clear. All of our rights are being attacked by people currently in power. If you read other comments I make regularly, you will see comments like "there is no difference between R and D in practice, this is a left-right paradigm that people want you to believe".
Your last paragraph is interesting, and becoming more common of a question. The simple answer is that you need to ignore the paradigms being pushed on to you and start your own political programs. Petition to get people you trust on ballots and ignore candidates given to you by elites. Just as important, is to teach other people that the left-right paradigms are fake and get them on board with a plan to remove career politicians from politics. One of my favorite quotes is from Socrates who states "The only people that should be representatives in a Republic are those that don't want the job".
I always recommend that people read and study Philosophy, namely "The Republic" which is the blueprint for our form of Government. Study will show you exactly why Socrates said what he did, in addition to showing you that society would function very well without career politicians.
In closing, pay attention to that 2nd paragraph. Our founding fathers built in rules for us to make very peaceful revolutions. This is why the elites currently in power are trying so hard to dismantle the Constitution and Bill of Rights. The work for us will be difficult, but will save years of misery and lots of bloodshed.
Apologies for missing your 2nd point. I'm saying that in large complex models, AMD still renders about the same or better in those applications. The difference is very minimal however. In other applications like Muses, the AMD chip is very noticeably better.
DirectX is optimized for Intel's chip, but also not as fast for real time graphics as OpenGL. AMD does not share the same advantages because of DirectX design, not necessarily their chips.
Be honest. It's the extra I/O bandwidth that has kept intel in the market for FPU heavy loads and not a better FPU or chip use of FPU. AMD has always had advantages there because of architecture principles that Intel does not have. AMD has always made efforts to make the FPU the fastest and easiest access for the CPU, and memory access second. I still think the AMD FPU is superior to Intel, which is why Intel shares a FPU between 2 cores. Gating is faster, and more instructions are allowed in the FPU at the same time. Not very advantageous for a single large problem, but threaded small problems see an advantage.
Probably, but the dictionary only contains the word "fining" so I probably meant "fin'ing" or such? Or perhaps the dictionary needs major updates?
Two immediate problems. First, you should really check facts. The millionaire tax rate up until the 1970s has always been in the 80-90% range (since the inception of income tax in the US). This is why I stated very clearly that tax rates are public knowledge and easy to find. The second problem should be painfully obvious: everything you said is based on false data and therefor untrue.
Bits of what you said are false for a different reason. The reason rich people can move their money overseas is due to deregulation which occurred at the same time as tax rates dropped. Again, go read history and verify facts before making false claims. Countless economists have stated the problems, and much more efficiently than myself since I'm not an economist by trade.
It is illegal for the Government to make information classified for the express purpose of cover up. Since that is true, your argument is pure bullshit and the person you responded too is incorrect.
If you believe everything the establishment is telling you, shame on you. 'There is sunshine and fresh air outside of the cave, but most slaves are content to sit and watch their evening puppet shows. They fear change so much that they will vehemently defend lies intended to keep them in the cave.' - Socrates
The debates are not just about Gun control, but all of the basic human rights defined by the Constitution and Bill of Rights that the self proclaimed elites have been declaring war on. Free speech, Privacy and Security, etc...
Guns are a primary argument because the elites fear a bunch of serfs that can defend themselves. This has been the case since the advent of any Government, often giving rise to non-elites with too much power being killed.
Don't ignore the obvious. I agree that the IRS may not have been the best example, however to deny it had impact is rubbish. If I started a political action group called "liberty returned" or something, I would not have been able to qualify the organization. This means that I can not necessarily accept donations legally as I'm not a charitable organization. Fringe case? Perhaps, but lets look at some other government leaks, and actions by the laughably "free press" in the US.
It was leaked that DHS, DOJ, FBI, CIA, and Media (Fox/NBC/ABC/CNN) colluded to undermine the OWS movement. This collusion included illegally arresting citizens, planting agent provocateurs, surveillance, and harassment. The biggie is the slander and libel by main stream media presenting the group as a bunch of pot smoking free loaders including leadership, who were actually demanding justice for executives committing illegal acts (robo-scams etc...).
Main Stream media made a circus of the election process. This was obvious to my 13 year old kid, so you should have caught on too! Portraying anyone the established didn't want as "crazy" and "insane" if they portrayed them at all.
Go investigate the Ross Perot blackmail case. You don't think that the surveillance agencies make cases like this much easier to perform, and much easier to hide? Yes folks, the corruption really is that bad.
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Try always. in place of that. It was released the other day, FISA has approved 100% of the requests it has received from agencies. Giving rise to a reporter calling it a rubber stamp(correctly)
Logic failure. Those two acts are mutually exclusive, and the storing would not be possible without collecting.
it is impossible to store something you do not have.
First, Bulldozer was not a high performance chip, and never intended to be a high performance chip. It was meant to be a PC based equivalent of a Niagra capable of massive threading. So let's compare apples to apples shall we?
AMD Still considers the Athalon to be the performance chip. Comparing apples to apples, maybe you are asking how a chip rated 300MHz lower be faster? First, the length of the bus needed to get from inbound to FPU is much longer on Intel. Cache is much larger on AMD, prefetch is superior especially for FP instructions. That has a lot to do with the bigger caches. Next, memory is also closer to the front of the chip. Most FPU based apps are also memory intensive. An Intel operation would start at the front of the chip and move to the back. Every memory or FPU operation requires traversing the full chip bus, then the same long ride back. That movement is not required in the AMD design, and that efficiency does make a difference.
If Intel had really doubled FPU performance AMD would have been out of business. Yet they are not, and I can still get exceptional performance off of them for heavy FPU loads. I/O and integer based, Intel beats them pretty solidly and has for quite a long time.
Horrible shilling there. You only need to understand a basic flowchart to see why that is wrong.
What other details would you like? Assuming it's not proprietary I can give more details.
Seems like we agree that it all depends on the app stack, our description of "why" are similar. Generally people claiming that Intel is that much better have never worked with AMD, or never compared high end chip to high end chip.
Since I can't detect whether or not your comment is in jest, I'll tell you to research the impact this is having on oceanic fish that humans rely on for food. Killing off predators in theory gives you more goodies, but in practice that is false. Top level predators keep other predators which we don't eat in check. Hammerhead populations would be the easiest to study, and the impact decimating these predators has had on other oceanic fish is easy to find.
I am pretty sure a good number of people have been making that statement for a very long time. Xbox finally became a viable money maker. Now however, Indy games and tablets are all over the place and consoles are not as exciting as they used to be. Add to that, the always on DRM and how many customers that will piss off (in addition to not being able to play old/used games at least to some extent) and they may no longer be profitable after the next release. Win8 is a disaster, and no matter how much money MS dumps into advertizing people will still demand that a desktop OS look and behave like a desktop OS. Until it does that natively, most consumers don't want it. Office has no innovation either. The same Visio templates that shipped by MS 5 years ago are exactly what we have today. Countless people still need to get usable templates from "visiocafe" in order to make the product useful. Ribbonized Word and Excel really don't give people any more than what they had in previous versions, so consumers see upgrades as a huge maintenance fee instead of an upgrade. I won't even mention Windows Phone which is in the same boat as WebOS, and WebOS was a vastly superior Phone and Tablet OS in my opinion.
In summary. Yes, I'm saying that.
As mentioned in a different post, I think this really depends on what your applications are doing. For floating point operations, AMD tends to be faster than Intel. If you are performing mostly integer based, Intel will be faster. Since both chips can outperform I/O, in my opinion it is a toss up on many operations. If I'm waiting on disk or network I/O, it really does not matter how fast the chip is.
Fair point, and valid correction.
Two slowly sinking ships tying together to make a barge? I don't see this relationship really lasting, but then again Best Buy and MS both have to make some hefty changes in order to stay in business long term. Maybe this will give them the time they need?
AMD has superior FP capabilities. In both CAD and CAE benchmarks, honors always go to AMD for the math. But what really hit me as a big-ole liar fanboi comment was the one about CAD rendering. The majority of that is not related to your CPU, but your GPU. The portion of GPU that is CPU related still benefits from AMD chips which have the memory at the front end of the chip, compared to the Intel that has the memory pipeline as far back as possible in order to claim "we have more MHz than AMD".
Video compression really depends on who's chip the code has been modified for (if any). As with CAE math, native chip math functions are much faster on AMD.
I run annual benchmarks inside companies for Intel vs. AMD and have for over a decade. These benchmarks show real world performance of Unigraphics, CATIA, HyperMesh, MSC Patran, Ansys, and Muses. CATIA and Ansys are always the worst on AMD, as they have both been assimilated by DirectX over OpenGL with no option to force OpenGL. They still however slightly favor AMD over Intel.
I don't rely on Tom's hardware or someone else for opinion, since Tom's showed us long ago that you can't trust "independent" benchmarks for much. I have read benchmark reports from others that indicate the opposite, but have yet to have anyone recreate their results for me. I use real decks and models from real products, I don't use code exercising a subset of CPU instructions as fast as it possibly can.
<shrug> I never pay that much for a CPU, since I have had exceptional experiences with the AMD CPUs. In my experiences, they have always outperformed Intel's processors, and generally cost half as much. I could overclock them if I wanted, and back in the Athalon 800'ish series did.