Of course if you get your news from communist propaganda, "media matters", you will have a negative opinion. How about you show some facts other than commie rags...
Coulter: Meticulously backs her statements with facts. If she is missing some or incorrect how about showing which. If her position is factual and you are made uncomfortable, that is your own cognitive dissonance to deal with.
I do have to laugh about your claim that Levin is of the Obama is a "secret" Muslim crowd. Funny that he has helped Muslims far more than any other President in history, including illegal actions such as having the US Department of Education create full plans for schools promoting Muslim beliefs. There is no secret that Obama is pro-Muslim, the only part to question is the motivation for his actions.
Will running Windows Server really be that horrible for 1 server?
It may, it really depends. If you are running a system that must be compliant (PCI, NISPOM/JFAN, FedRAMP, etc..) it absolutely may be horrible. You not only need that 1 Windows server, but all of the supporting infrastructure to make it compliant. That 1 server is now 2 or 3, and you need manpower and time to go with it.
So if you can run Windows, I agree with GP. Where I work, the vendor would either port or we wouldn't run it.
Why do people keep saying that the law wasn't in effect yet so there is no issue.
Because that is the truth, the Law was not in effect. There is absolutely no change to anything with this law being revoked.
Let's think about this. Let's say hordes of people are being tortured and a law is passed that would stop that abuse and it takes effect on Friday. You are one of the victims and you knew you were about to be free on Friday, then this happened and your not. Now I am asking you, if your that guy in that situation are you seriously going to try to tell us it doesn't matter because it hasn't gone into effect yet?
Oh, I see. We have to argue with an absurd level of delusion to claim the law should have remained. Appeal to emotion is the answer! Thanks, I could have never seen the light without your fallacious arguments!
Remember CISPA and SOPA? Dropped because of public outrage at the Bill. Okay, maybe your own personal crusade won't evoke change, but that is working as intended. If it happened to be a good Bill and you had enough public support behind it, you at least have a chance.
I pity those who actually thought he cares about IT and science as evident by the posts.
At least a bit more than other politicians who have continually expanded H1Bs and didn't even bother with rhetoric denouncing companies that outsourced their IT (Disney, UCSF Hospital, etc..) Time will tell, but at least we have the rhetoric coming from a politician.
Enjoy those non existent tax cuts and ISPs selling your browsing history and capped low QOS connections.
More crystal ball reading.. The law that was repealed never went into effect. Here is an idea though.. how about you petition Government for a better law instead of whining about the law that never did anything being revoked?
Don't let your employer find your porn history?
Most employers won't have a problem with your porn habits, unless it's the kind that is illegal. Some employers would despise my reading habits, mainly those with leftist leadership. Not many of those would mind me having a copy of Marx but Friedman, Plato, Levin, Hegel, Nietzsche , and the Federalist papers, those are potential problems.
We should mostly agree that 'don't be stupid' is a good rule to follow. Though we man rant about having similar feelings about past employers, just not enough to take any such actions.
The first problem is you quoting all progressive left propaganda. Why not look for transcripts of say, the Governor of Washington State who declared the State a sanctuary state and ordered officers not to cooperate with ICE. Or the Mayor of San Francisco who did the same. Plenty of transcripts to prove your propaganda sites wrong.
Then look at the results. Like last week in Denver where an ICE Detainer was ignored resulting in a 2 year old being brutally raped and two women beaten and stabbed. Or on March 2nd where a 14 year old was kidnapped in Houston and brutally raped.
And your insanity comes to full view...
You're confused again, there's no threat to being judged, you're merely being observed, and recognized, for what your public behavior happens to be. It's called responsibility. You should recognize that as a natural consequence of communication. You speak, people listen, and react.
No surprise that you'd want to censor other people from having opinions about you, reminds me of Trump's behavior.
I never stated anyone should be censored, I said you were a coward hiding in anonymity attempting to intimidate me with a baseless threat. I am responsible for my words, thoughts, and deeds. Something you are certainly not. Then you claim I want censorship for saying you should be accountable for your words? Hah, that's not even hypocrisy. That is insanity at it's finest.
So you are a serial lair, serial troll, and can't see your own bullshit. Why not go get some medication or an education. You are as deficient as you are cowardly.
Sanctuary cities do not exist and nobody on the Progressive left talks about the need for them. Right? Oh, I guess you are just another AC who's full of shit. Brave enough to hide in anonymity while claiming that I am being watched, as if you are a threat. Sorry mental midget, stop trolling my posts or grow a pair and be accountable for your words. Lets see who win's a moderation contest.
Maybe in the alt-universe which conservatives have constructed for themselves you might see that. In the real world nobody says that.
I have two words for you. "Sanctuary" and "City". Yes, they do say that all the damn time, out in the open and in the press/media.
Half truths are lies too. We saw through your political correctness, we see through your half truths too
When caught in a lie, claim your opponent does everything you do. Yeah, I read Rules for Radicals too. Not a good try coward. No ration for you comrade!
I don't speak for the "right" either, but my position is more right than left. I gave valid criticism and response to your post. My argument was, and is, that the progressive left has turned _everything_ into a racist, sexist, homophobic, etc... position.
The "rich, vibrant history" you claim of an "ism" is not due to the majority, but the minority. Mainly the Democratic party (you can check the facts). While there are possibly things to discuss about race, when everything is claimed to be racist, sexist, homophobic, etc... we can never get to anything of meaningful discussion.
You avoided my point the first time, and even though it's the first point here you will probably still avoid it. No, the messaging from the right is not nearly the same or as bad as the left. I don't see any point in History where the Right has went full out crazy with ignoring facts to promote their values..
It would be very interesting to see surveys and interviews demonstrating how much of an impact it has had. I refused to watch any NFL this year including the Thanksgiving day game, which has been a tradition since I was a kid. (I came from Detroit, we needed one game to look forward to even if we lost).
One would think that these surveys are being done since the NFL is not the first or worst. I only know plenty of people who don't watch ESPN because it has become propaganda, but my anecdote does not show total losses.
Where I disagree is that the arguments for wanting to control borders/immigration or having concerns for ones own populace results in the progressive left labeling you with one or all of those labels. I would further add that the demands for increased Government control, broad censorship, increases bureaucracy for wealth redistribution programs, and promotion of anarchy through neglecting laws all comes with one or more of those same labels. "We can't stop those people from breaking windows and assaulting people because the people they are attacking are [label]" is a common theme. We can't deport violent criminals from El Salvador because that would be racist. etc... We are seeing this constantly from the Progressive left.
Tell me, if a Russian gang was here illegally and committing crimes would deporting them be racist? How about a French gang? A gang of Catholics from Italy? I think you know the answer already. So which group is actually promoting racism, the ones saying "deport criminals" or the ones saying "you can't deport 'those' criminals because Ethnicity/Religion"? Obviously the latter.
I don't believe that Gen Z (or Millenials like Milo, Coulter, Shapiro, etc...) are pushing back the clock, but attempting to push for rational arguments instead of simply labeling things an "ism" and people as mega-phobic for not disagreeing with the progressive left's vision of the world. Since facts don't usually back the progressive left's position they do not want the debates or the facts.
Having "facts" has become the anti-establish position, because certain people in media and politics refuse to acknowledge facts or argue with them. Interesting times indeed.
Milo is a troll because of his message, or because of how it's delivered? People on the right finally figured out that no matter how they say things, the progressive left will attack. Milo, and to a large extent President Trump have figured out that being "politically correct" has never worked. The target is constantly moving, and only favors the progressive left. The progressive left is now beginning to eat as much as they dish out, and they don't like it.
We hear the same claims about Ann Coulter, Ben Shaprio, Steven Crowder, Mark Levin, Larry Elder, Dennis Prager, and I could go on and on and on. The progressive left (and it's media monopoly) labels anything people on the right do as racist, xenophobic, homophobic, Islamaphobic, transphobic, misogynistic, anti Hispanic, etc... They constantly cherry pick bits and pieces of content to argue with. They similarly cherry pick for their own narratives and continue to get caught.
The successful answer has been not to "play nice" but to throw things back in a way that displays the hypocrisy and dirty tricks in full view.
So far, Generation Z is turning out to be one of the most conservative generations in a long time. The progressives are in for a rough time.
Back on point, as GP stated the "Verified" has become synonymous with "Insider" or "Elitist". Twitter is losing the war, as is Youtube and Facebook. Censorship is never the answer, yet these massive institutions continue to travel that route.
Economies have certainly collapsed due to an absence of cheap labour. In fact, just about every country that closed its borders and became insular has had an economic collapse. Hell, if immigration control was so effective, why isn't North Korea an economic power.
Ahh, so your only example of an economy in trouble is not a Western economy, but an authoritarian/totalitarian system like DPRK or perhaps Venezuela. Where those problems are not actually due to immigration at all.
If that was not already in the deep end, you go even further.
However the immigration control part of Brexit isn't whats going to kill the UK economy, the dual effects of losing access to the single market and losing Scotland and Northern Ireland is what will sink the UK
Oh I get it! You have information from Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny that nobody else has. The Tooth fairy told you so! Your crystal ball claims it's going to be a problem, not that you have any actual evidence.
Considering that both Ireland and Scotland voted remain by a pretty close margin, there is no evidence that they will leave Britain and strike out on their own. In fact, referendums to do just that have failed by a much larger margin than the "remain" vote.
You are repeating the same rubbish that the UK leaving the EU would cause WW III, financial collapse of England, mass starvation, massive unemployment, and a complete isolation from the rest of the world.
I hate to inform you of reality, but none of those things occurred. The UK has more confidence in it's own economy today than at any time in the last 30 years, and lower unemployment. Kind of like all of those dire warnings about Trump winning, and all the same fear mongering.
Maybe you should stop listening to media that has a globalist agenda and tons of money invested in propaganda. If relevant, stop seeking payment from that globalist agenda and spreading fear mongering rubbish.
Bullshit, the economy does not collapse without immigration. That has never happened anywhere. Wages go up and unemployment drops with vacancies, which is beneficial to current citizens of a country. A Migrant coming in and working for a month then taking all of his pay back to his home does not help the British economy in any way. In fact that month or three harms Britain, because people would work summers can't compete to get the jobs (College and High school students, recent grads unsure of a career choice, etc..). Those people would have turned around and invested the money back into the UK.
A healthy economy means increased birthrates, so no need to import people for the low skilled jobs. The low birth rate issue is a common one with all of the first world countries currently. Immigration is not the the only, or necessarily best, answer.
You can't grasp basic common sense economics, and yet you claim others of providing stupid easy answers.
As a matter of fact, I can. No more arguing with an AC who can't handle intellectual honesty.
Actually, the process of amendment is what shows the concept of originalists to be crap, and a mere matter of propaganda by wrappings themselves in the false cloak of legitimacy that comes from trying to use the founders as the only acceptable moral compass.
Bruce decided to move the goal post after Orgasmatron demonstrated his position was wrong. You then claim Orgamatron should claim defeat because the goal post was moved. Not because Bruce was right on the first argument.
Hence my claim that you can't have it both ways. You are a biased 3rd wheel attempting to throw in moderation. Shame on you!
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Of course if you get your news from communist propaganda, "media matters", you will have a negative opinion. How about you show some facts other than commie rags...
Coulter: Meticulously backs her statements with facts. If she is missing some or incorrect how about showing which. If her position is factual and you are made uncomfortable, that is your own cognitive dissonance to deal with.
I do have to laugh about your claim that Levin is of the Obama is a "secret" Muslim crowd. Funny that he has helped Muslims far more than any other President in history, including illegal actions such as having the US Department of Education create full plans for schools promoting Muslim beliefs. There is no secret that Obama is pro-Muslim, the only part to question is the motivation for his actions.
Will running Windows Server really be that horrible for 1 server?
It may, it really depends. If you are running a system that must be compliant (PCI, NISPOM/JFAN, FedRAMP, etc..) it absolutely may be horrible. You not only need that 1 Windows server, but all of the supporting infrastructure to make it compliant. That 1 server is now 2 or 3, and you need manpower and time to go with it.
So if you can run Windows, I agree with GP. Where I work, the vendor would either port or we wouldn't run it.
You mean to tell me they were not already on strike? Nothing but remakes, over, and over and over again.
What is the date? Ohhhhhhhhh....
Why do people keep saying that the law wasn't in effect yet so there is no issue.
Because that is the truth, the Law was not in effect. There is absolutely no change to anything with this law being revoked.
Let's think about this. Let's say hordes of people are being tortured and a law is passed that would stop that abuse and it takes effect on Friday. You are one of the victims and you knew you were about to be free on Friday, then this happened and your not. Now I am asking you, if your that guy in that situation are you seriously going to try to tell us it doesn't matter because it hasn't gone into effect yet?
Oh, I see. We have to argue with an absurd level of delusion to claim the law should have remained. Appeal to emotion is the answer! Thanks, I could have never seen the light without your fallacious arguments!
So now you know how their readers feel?
Remember CISPA and SOPA? Dropped because of public outrage at the Bill. Okay, maybe your own personal crusade won't evoke change, but that is working as intended. If it happened to be a good Bill and you had enough public support behind it, you at least have a chance.
I pity those who actually thought he cares about IT and science as evident by the posts.
At least a bit more than other politicians who have continually expanded H1Bs and didn't even bother with rhetoric denouncing companies that outsourced their IT (Disney, UCSF Hospital, etc..) Time will tell, but at least we have the rhetoric coming from a politician.
Enjoy those non existent tax cuts and ISPs selling your browsing history and capped low QOS connections.
More crystal ball reading.. The law that was repealed never went into effect. Here is an idea though.. how about you petition Government for a better law instead of whining about the law that never did anything being revoked?
Don't let your employer find your porn history?
Most employers won't have a problem with your porn habits, unless it's the kind that is illegal. Some employers would despise my reading habits, mainly those with leftist leadership. Not many of those would mind me having a copy of Marx but Friedman, Plato, Levin, Hegel, Nietzsche , and the Federalist papers, those are potential problems.
We should mostly agree that 'don't be stupid' is a good rule to follow. Though we man rant about having similar feelings about past employers, just not enough to take any such actions.
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The first problem is you quoting all progressive left propaganda. Why not look for transcripts of say, the Governor of Washington State who declared the State a sanctuary state and ordered officers not to cooperate with ICE. Or the Mayor of San Francisco who did the same. Plenty of transcripts to prove your propaganda sites wrong.
Then look at the results. Like last week in Denver where an ICE Detainer was ignored resulting in a 2 year old being brutally raped and two women beaten and stabbed. Or on March 2nd where a 14 year old was kidnapped in Houston and brutally raped.
And your insanity comes to full view...
You're confused again, there's no threat to being judged, you're merely being observed, and recognized, for what your public behavior happens to be. It's called responsibility. You should recognize that as a natural consequence of communication. You speak, people listen, and react.
No surprise that you'd want to censor other people from having opinions about you, reminds me of Trump's behavior.
I never stated anyone should be censored, I said you were a coward hiding in anonymity attempting to intimidate me with a baseless threat. I am responsible for my words, thoughts, and deeds. Something you are certainly not. Then you claim I want censorship for saying you should be accountable for your words? Hah, that's not even hypocrisy. That is insanity at it's finest.
So you are a serial lair, serial troll, and can't see your own bullshit. Why not go get some medication or an education. You are as deficient as you are cowardly.
Sanctuary cities do not exist and nobody on the Progressive left talks about the need for them. Right? Oh, I guess you are just another AC who's full of shit. Brave enough to hide in anonymity while claiming that I am being watched, as if you are a threat. Sorry mental midget, stop trolling my posts or grow a pair and be accountable for your words. Lets see who win's a moderation contest.
Maybe in the alt-universe which conservatives have constructed for themselves you might see that. In the real world nobody says that.
I have two words for you. "Sanctuary" and "City". Yes, they do say that all the damn time, out in the open and in the press/media.
Half truths are lies too. We saw through your political correctness, we see through your half truths too
When caught in a lie, claim your opponent does everything you do. Yeah, I read Rules for Radicals too. Not a good try coward. No ration for you comrade!
They can tighten as well as loosen you insensitive clod! Kegels FTW!
You missed the point about cherry picking didn't you? Oh yeah...
I don't speak for the "right" either, but my position is more right than left. I gave valid criticism and response to your post. My argument was, and is, that the progressive left has turned _everything_ into a racist, sexist, homophobic, etc... position.
The "rich, vibrant history" you claim of an "ism" is not due to the majority, but the minority. Mainly the Democratic party (you can check the facts). While there are possibly things to discuss about race, when everything is claimed to be racist, sexist, homophobic, etc... we can never get to anything of meaningful discussion.
You avoided my point the first time, and even though it's the first point here you will probably still avoid it. No, the messaging from the right is not nearly the same or as bad as the left. I don't see any point in History where the Right has went full out crazy with ignoring facts to promote their values..
It would be very interesting to see surveys and interviews demonstrating how much of an impact it has had. I refused to watch any NFL this year including the Thanksgiving day game, which has been a tradition since I was a kid. (I came from Detroit, we needed one game to look forward to even if we lost).
One would think that these surveys are being done since the NFL is not the first or worst. I only know plenty of people who don't watch ESPN because it has become propaganda, but my anecdote does not show total losses.
Where I disagree is that the arguments for wanting to control borders/immigration or having concerns for ones own populace results in the progressive left labeling you with one or all of those labels. I would further add that the demands for increased Government control, broad censorship, increases bureaucracy for wealth redistribution programs, and promotion of anarchy through neglecting laws all comes with one or more of those same labels. "We can't stop those people from breaking windows and assaulting people because the people they are attacking are [label]" is a common theme. We can't deport violent criminals from El Salvador because that would be racist. etc... We are seeing this constantly from the Progressive left.
Tell me, if a Russian gang was here illegally and committing crimes would deporting them be racist? How about a French gang? A gang of Catholics from Italy? I think you know the answer already. So which group is actually promoting racism, the ones saying "deport criminals" or the ones saying "you can't deport 'those' criminals because Ethnicity/Religion"? Obviously the latter.
I don't believe that Gen Z (or Millenials like Milo, Coulter, Shapiro, etc...) are pushing back the clock, but attempting to push for rational arguments instead of simply labeling things an "ism" and people as mega-phobic for not disagreeing with the progressive left's vision of the world. Since facts don't usually back the progressive left's position they do not want the debates or the facts.
Having "facts" has become the anti-establish position, because certain people in media and politics refuse to acknowledge facts or argue with them. Interesting times indeed.
Milo is a troll because of his message, or because of how it's delivered? People on the right finally figured out that no matter how they say things, the progressive left will attack. Milo, and to a large extent President Trump have figured out that being "politically correct" has never worked. The target is constantly moving, and only favors the progressive left. The progressive left is now beginning to eat as much as they dish out, and they don't like it.
We hear the same claims about Ann Coulter, Ben Shaprio, Steven Crowder, Mark Levin, Larry Elder, Dennis Prager, and I could go on and on and on. The progressive left (and it's media monopoly) labels anything people on the right do as racist, xenophobic, homophobic, Islamaphobic, transphobic, misogynistic, anti Hispanic, etc... They constantly cherry pick bits and pieces of content to argue with. They similarly cherry pick for their own narratives and continue to get caught.
The successful answer has been not to "play nice" but to throw things back in a way that displays the hypocrisy and dirty tricks in full view.
So far, Generation Z is turning out to be one of the most conservative generations in a long time. The progressives are in for a rough time.
Back on point, as GP stated the "Verified" has become synonymous with "Insider" or "Elitist". Twitter is losing the war, as is Youtube and Facebook. Censorship is never the answer, yet these massive institutions continue to travel that route.
Economies have certainly collapsed due to an absence of cheap labour. In fact, just about every country that closed its borders and became insular has had an economic collapse. Hell, if immigration control was so effective, why isn't North Korea an economic power.
Ahh, so your only example of an economy in trouble is not a Western economy, but an authoritarian/totalitarian system like DPRK or perhaps Venezuela. Where those problems are not actually due to immigration at all.
If that was not already in the deep end, you go even further.
However the immigration control part of Brexit isn't whats going to kill the UK economy, the dual effects of losing access to the single market and losing Scotland and Northern Ireland is what will sink the UK
Oh I get it! You have information from Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny that nobody else has. The Tooth fairy told you so! Your crystal ball claims it's going to be a problem, not that you have any actual evidence.
Considering that both Ireland and Scotland voted remain by a pretty close margin, there is no evidence that they will leave Britain and strike out on their own. In fact, referendums to do just that have failed by a much larger margin than the "remain" vote.
You are repeating the same rubbish that the UK leaving the EU would cause WW III, financial collapse of England, mass starvation, massive unemployment, and a complete isolation from the rest of the world.
I hate to inform you of reality, but none of those things occurred. The UK has more confidence in it's own economy today than at any time in the last 30 years, and lower unemployment. Kind of like all of those dire warnings about Trump winning, and all the same fear mongering.
Maybe you should stop listening to media that has a globalist agenda and tons of money invested in propaganda. If relevant, stop seeking payment from that globalist agenda and spreading fear mongering rubbish.
I give this post 2 TP rolls!
Bullshit, the economy does not collapse without immigration. That has never happened anywhere. Wages go up and unemployment drops with vacancies, which is beneficial to current citizens of a country. A Migrant coming in and working for a month then taking all of his pay back to his home does not help the British economy in any way. In fact that month or three harms Britain, because people would work summers can't compete to get the jobs (College and High school students, recent grads unsure of a career choice, etc..). Those people would have turned around and invested the money back into the UK.
A healthy economy means increased birthrates, so no need to import people for the low skilled jobs. The low birth rate issue is a common one with all of the first world countries currently. Immigration is not the the only, or necessarily best, answer.
You can't grasp basic common sense economics, and yet you claim others of providing stupid easy answers.
Actually, the process of amendment is what shows the concept of originalists to be crap, and a mere matter of propaganda by wrappings themselves in the false cloak of legitimacy that comes from trying to use the founders as the only acceptable moral compass.
Indenting at this point is jacked, so if this was directed at me see 54146427
Bruce decided to move the goal post after Orgasmatron demonstrated his position was wrong. You then claim Orgamatron should claim defeat because the goal post was moved. Not because Bruce was right on the first argument.
Hence my claim that you can't have it both ways. You are a biased 3rd wheel attempting to throw in moderation. Shame on you!