"Hey, if it weren't for people using the term M$, I would never have known that Microsoft were a corporation interested in making money."
So why do you get your panties in a wad when people do it then?
If somebody refered to sketcher shoes as shit-etcher shoes I would not go on web sites and defend the noble and honorable shoe company. I wouldn't give a flying fuck. Why do you care so much?
So what kind of a human being gets upset because somebody used a dollar sign when describing a corporation?
I can understand how people might get upset if people attack their community, they friends, they hobby, their passion but I don't understand why people would get upset when you say something bad about any corporation.
No they didn't. That statement has been debunked more then "al gore invented the internet" meme by now.
I notice that you were modded up to five for repeating it though, it's nice to know slashdot isn't any smarter then the rest of the population when it comes to shit like this.
In the US system you sue people for patent infringement and when you win you charge them a license fee to use your patents. More often then not you don't have to go to court because the other party will pay up instead of going through trial although once in a while somebody does get uppity.
Ballmer is promising to sue people for patent infringment. One presumes they aren't going to spend money suing people if there is not profit in the process.
.NET is a documented standard you boob, anyone can write an interpreter for it. And yet many libraries, file formats, protocols and parts of it are patented.
'They have pretty much comitted themselves to making money with lawsuits now'.
That's a grand statement, can you explain how and why? Have you been keeping up with the public statements the CEO of MS has been making lately? I would suggest you do a quick google search for "ballmer patents" or something like that.
not all.net technologies are under the shared source agreement. MS will find something sue about. They have pretty much comitted themselves to making money with lawsuits now.
The MS agreement with novell ends in five years. After that there is 100% probability that there will be MS patented code in mono and everybody who uses it will be targets for lawsuits.
"Which is, of course, the reason hundreds of thousands flocked to it when it was created. Right? "
Windows programmers will always use MS languages no matter what. Even if competing languages and IDEs are better (see delphi vs VB) they will still use MS products.
Windows developers by definition as MS fanbois.
They flocked to C# because it was better then C++ and it was made by MS. It has nothing to do with whether C# was good or not. After all it was just a rip off of java and they could have switched to java years earlier.
"Well apparently he was TRYING TO use GNOME in stead -- how the fuck else would he even have noticed the problem?"
He already said he thought KDE was better. I don't understand why he is trying to use GNOME.
"What's wrong with that; isn't he ALLOWED to try to use GNOME just because you have him pigeonholed as "somebody who uses KDE"?"
He is allowed to do anything he wants. On the other hand the GNOME developers are allowed to do anything they want and I am allowed to call linus an asshole for pissing on the GNOME developers when he doesn't even use the damned thing.
"And next time you don't understand something, please first consider that the problem may be not with whatever it is you don't understand[*], but with your limited powers of understanding. HTH!"
Oh yes it's my fault that linus is acting like a supreme asshole.
"And they haven't been convicted of a single one of those things; there are just some accusations here."
That's true. In the first trial Gates lied under oath and was never tried for perjury. Witnesses came forward from gateway and other companies and testified under oath that MS had threatened them and tried to persuade them not to testify in court and MS was never tried for witness tampering. During the first trial MS showed a doctored video tape and they were never tried for evidence tampering and obstruction of justice.
Unfortunately in our system the rich and the powerful don't even get charged when they commit crimes. That doesn't mean they are not criminals they are. They broke the law, we all know it so they are criminals who have not been charged and tried. Just like if you rob a grocery store and never got caught you would still be a criminal.
"you may as well start labeling the US government a criminal organization."
"I never said nor insinuated that we should go to war or escalate to war with China"
Yes you did.
"The international system is not a big campfire circle of people singing songs and playing nice, it is a constant game of chicken."
Of course not. Like you said you are either the fucker or the fuckee. We are soon to become the fuckee as china plays us like a rag doll with their two trillion dollar surplus of US dollars. All they have to do is to exchange those for euros and they will collapse the US economy. So this means we can't do jack shit to them except to kill them and they can kill as just as easy.
"Yeah, well, it's kinda sad if a constructive user with some coding skills and no patience for bureaucrats must resort to something like forking, in order to get a useful feature in the GNOME code base."
No that's the way open source works.
"Come to think of it, wasn't something like that attitude that killed XFree86?"
Yes. It forked, became Xorg and got a lot better. That's they way it's supposed to work.
"That said, I don't think it's that bad with GNOME, really. As I said, I think most of the screaming is being done neither by Linus nor most of the GNOME coders; just a few people hypersensible to harsh truths and direct language."
Again I don't understand why somebody who uses KDE is pissing on the GNOME developers. Why? Why not piss on the KDE developers instead?
Destroying evidence is already against the law. The problem is that MS is above the law. They can commit any crime they want and they know that the govt will never hold them accountable.
It's a criminal organization that is completely above the law. Passing more laws isn't going to curb it.
Destroying evidence is illegal even if you are not the first one to do it.
Honestly your defense of MS consists of "everybody else does it". Isn't it amazing what the defenders of MS have been reduced to.
Not every business breaks the law. Some do, but many don't. Please don't defame the entire business community and capitalism itself by saying that every business breaks the law.
The great thing about open source is that people who don't want to talk sweetly to the committee can say "fork it" and do it themselves. If you are not willing to fork it then I am afraid you are going to deal with the committee whether you like it or not.
Yes Linus is being a supreme asshole. He uses KDE doesn't he? What the fuck is he doing pissing on the GNOME developers anyway? What does he care what GNOME does?
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They are promoting postgres on windows because they don't want to be forced to sue people who run postgres on linux. See how nice they are?
WOW that's pretty amazing. I have never seen any MS development shop not use SQL server. What's your company?
MSSQL is only free if your database is smaller then four gigs. On the other hand DB/2 is free no matter how much data you have.
"Hey, if it weren't for people using the term M$, I would never have known that Microsoft were a corporation interested in making money."
So why do you get your panties in a wad when people do it then?
If somebody refered to sketcher shoes as shit-etcher shoes I would not go on web sites and defend the noble and honorable shoe company. I wouldn't give a flying fuck. Why do you care so much?
So what kind of a human being gets upset because somebody used a dollar sign when describing a corporation?
I can understand how people might get upset if people attack their community, they friends, they hobby, their passion but I don't understand why people would get upset when you say something bad about any corporation.
No they didn't. That statement has been debunked more then "al gore invented the internet" meme by now.
I notice that you were modded up to five for repeating it though, it's nice to know slashdot isn't any smarter then the rest of the population when it comes to shit like this.
It's a device to flush out the fanbois and the astro turfers because they are the only human beings on the entire planet who get upset at it.
In the US system you sue people for patent infringement and when you win you charge them a license fee to use your patents. More often then not you don't have to go to court because the other party will pay up instead of going through trial although once in a while somebody does get uppity.
Ballmer is promising to sue people for patent infringment. One presumes they aren't going to spend money suing people if there is not profit in the process.
.NET is a documented standard you boob, anyone can write an interpreter for it. And yet many libraries, file formats, protocols and parts of it are patented.That's a grand statement, can you explain how and why? Have you been keeping up with the public statements the CEO of MS has been making lately? I would suggest you do a quick google search for "ballmer patents" or something like that.
not all .net technologies are under the shared source agreement. MS will find something sue about. They have pretty much comitted themselves to making money with lawsuits now.
The MS agreement with novell ends in five years. After that there is 100% probability that there will be MS patented code in mono and everybody who uses it will be targets for lawsuits.
"Which is, of course, the reason hundreds of thousands flocked to it when it was created. Right? "
Windows programmers will always use MS languages no matter what. Even if competing languages and IDEs are better (see delphi vs VB) they will still use MS products.
Windows developers by definition as MS fanbois.
They flocked to C# because it was better then C++ and it was made by MS. It has nothing to do with whether C# was good or not. After all it was just a rip off of java and they could have switched to java years earlier.
How come you are confused about patents then?
"We may not be able to protect our intellectual property rights against piracy, infringement of our patents by third parties,"
A remarkable statement coming from a company which promises to protect the intellectual property of music companies and hollywood.
"Well apparently he was TRYING TO use GNOME in stead -- how the fuck else would he even have noticed the problem?"
He already said he thought KDE was better. I don't understand why he is trying to use GNOME.
"What's wrong with that; isn't he ALLOWED to try to use GNOME just because you have him pigeonholed as "somebody who uses KDE"?"
He is allowed to do anything he wants. On the other hand the GNOME developers are allowed to do anything they want and I am allowed to call linus an asshole for pissing on the GNOME developers when he doesn't even use the damned thing.
"And next time you don't understand something, please first consider that the problem may be not with whatever it is you don't understand[*], but with your limited powers of understanding. HTH!"
Oh yes it's my fault that linus is acting like a supreme asshole.
Why should they? Vista is going to get shoved down every fuck who buys a computer anyway so why should they do anything at all.
"And they haven't been convicted of a single one of those things; there are just some accusations here."
That's true. In the first trial Gates lied under oath and was never tried for perjury. Witnesses came forward from gateway and other companies and testified under oath that MS had threatened them and tried to persuade them not to testify in court and MS was never tried for witness tampering. During the first trial MS showed a doctored video tape and they were never tried for evidence tampering and obstruction of justice.
Unfortunately in our system the rich and the powerful don't even get charged when they commit crimes. That doesn't mean they are not criminals they are. They broke the law, we all know it so they are criminals who have not been charged and tried. Just like if you rob a grocery store and never got caught you would still be a criminal.
"you may as well start labeling the US government a criminal organization."
I just presumed every already does.
"I never said nor insinuated that we should go to war or escalate to war with China"
Yes you did.
"The international system is not a big campfire circle of people singing songs and playing nice, it is a constant game of chicken."
Of course not. Like you said you are either the fucker or the fuckee. We are soon to become the fuckee as china plays us like a rag doll with their two trillion dollar surplus of US dollars. All they have to do is to exchange those for euros and they will collapse the US economy. So this means we can't do jack shit to them except to kill them and they can kill as just as easy.
I am pretty sure destroying evidence is a criminal offense. Same with obstruction of justice, witness tampering and evidence tampering.
"Yeah, well, it's kinda sad if a constructive user with some coding skills and no patience for bureaucrats must resort to something like forking, in order to get a useful feature in the GNOME code base."
No that's the way open source works.
"Come to think of it, wasn't something like that attitude that killed XFree86?"
Yes. It forked, became Xorg and got a lot better. That's they way it's supposed to work.
"That said, I don't think it's that bad with GNOME, really. As I said, I think most of the screaming is being done neither by Linus nor most of the GNOME coders; just a few people hypersensible to harsh truths and direct language."
Again I don't understand why somebody who uses KDE is pissing on the GNOME developers. Why? Why not piss on the KDE developers instead?
Destroying evidence is already against the law. The problem is that MS is above the law. They can commit any crime they want and they know that the govt will never hold them accountable.
It's a criminal organization that is completely above the law. Passing more laws isn't going to curb it.
Destroying evidence is illegal even if you are not the first one to do it.
Honestly your defense of MS consists of "everybody else does it". Isn't it amazing what the defenders of MS have been reduced to.
Not every business breaks the law. Some do, but many don't. Please don't defame the entire business community and capitalism itself by saying that every business breaks the law.
Bhahahaha.
You want to start a war with china.
Bhahahahahaha.
Oh man that's rich. Haven't the republicans learned anything from iraq?
The great thing about open source is that people who don't want to talk sweetly to the committee can say "fork it" and do it themselves. If you are not willing to fork it then I am afraid you are going to deal with the committee whether you like it or not.
Yes Linus is being a supreme asshole. He uses KDE doesn't he? What the fuck is he doing pissing on the GNOME developers anyway? What does he care what GNOME does?