Joe will install windows at home when his boss shoves it down his throat at work. Joe does not make choices. Joe will not ever install linux at home until his boss installs it at work.
You simply are unable to understand this. You keep thinking that joe is out there actively choosing one OS over another. Joe does no such thing. He eats what you shove down his throat.
Keep shilling though, I am sure it makes Gates feel better to know his troops are out there trying to hard.
Why wouln't it scale down? If you are small and are likely to stay small try the following. Sansung connect (used to HP open mail). Kerio, Merak, communigate pro. They all will do the job, cost less, be easier to manage.
You know what you are describing looks an aweful lot like a distributed version control system with bittorrent as a transport. Of course with bittorrent you need a server to act as a tracker though.
"I've worked in a company that has had incompetents working on PCs for years that won't fire these employees. If Joe can do the bare minimum he will save his job. Joe isn't going to feel good about going with an OS he has trouble with at work. Especially if his friends remain with Windows."
Joe doesn't feel good about windows either. Joe is going to use at home what he uses as work. That's it. That's the way it's always been.
"Exatcly! finally you see my point! So why do you think Joe is going to move to Linux? "
Because he wants to take work home. Because his boss shoved it down his throat and he has to. Joe doesn't make choices, he eats whatever you shove down his throat.
"Again, Joe isn't going to use it at home if it's a pain in the ass at work. "
Yes he is. Why did joe use windows at home when the mac was so much better. Mac has always been easier to use then a PC and yet joe bought a PC because that's what he has at work.
"Joe resists change, that's a very human thing to do"
That's right. But oddly enough he changes when somebody shoves it down his throat. Every two years MS shoves a new OS that looks and acts different down his throat and he just learns it. Going from 2K to XP is no different from switching from XP to linux.
" Joe resists change and Joe trusts what he's familure with more than what he doesn't know"
That's right. He will get linux shoved down his throat at work, he will be come familiar with it, he will install it at home so he can take work home.
That's what happened with windows, that's what will happen with linux.
If you think RPC over HTTP is fast then you have had your expectations managed by MS.
But that's all besides the point isn't it? Exchange is useless without outlook, it's expensive to install and manage, you need to throw thousands of dollars more to back it up and restore it. Oracle suite is better and cheaper.
Yes, ever hear of ebola? flesh eating bacteria? or a thousand other diseases?
"Don't forget the economic factor either. Joe is still looking for the best deal possible and while he may spend 50K on a SUV to make a fashion statement the same is not true of his PC, he's looking for dirt cheap."
Right, windows is almost as good as a mac but a lot cheaper. Linux is almost as good as windows but a lot cheaper.
"oe already knows Windows, by the time that linux is big in the work place and Joe is comfortable enough with it we'll be well past your 10 year timeframe."
Nope, Joe will get linux shoved down his throat or he will quit or get fired. Once it's installed if he goes more then two months before gaining some competence he will be on his ass.
". He wants something that works that he doesn't have to bust his ass re-learning."
Joe doesn't give a shit. Joe does not make choices. If joe cared about ease of use he would use a mac. Joe uses whatever comes with his computer, joe uses what he learns at work. Joe has used buggy and crash prone windows since 3.0. He complains but he keeps using whatever dell shoves down his throat.
Joe will never choose anything, he won't choose linux, linux will be shoved down his throat, he will complain but he will eat it. Just like he complains now and eats windows.
"Watch Joe freak out. You're selling a fresh product to a guy who doesn't really want to re-learn everything he just learned in the past 5-10 years."
Joe relearns everything with every version of windows. He is used to it by now.
"ow is going to see Linux as a pain in the ass, not as a ladder out of a hole."
It won't matter. Joe's boss is going to shove linux down his throat and he will learn to eat it or go find another job. Joe doesn't get a say in this.
"while he may not be happy with how windows works he isn't going to have much more faith in Linux and it's going to take years just to gain his trust."
Joe trusts everything implicitly. He trusts everything his computer tells him. If he gets an email saying "amazon.com wants you to re-enter your personal information here" he will do it. If he gets an email saying "check this out" he will click on it. Joe trusts everything.
"But you must consider that they are like parasites, and like parasites when the host dies they die. Gates is their host and they know it."
Not all parasites spare their victims.
"How are they going to fill a hole left by MS? Linux is not a home users reality,"
You keep going back and forth from server to home. People at home eat whatever you shove down their throat. More precisely they eat whatever their boss shoves down their throat at work. That's why windows is dominant and not the mac despite the fact that macs are easier to use and look better. People install the same software at home that they use at work.
Linux will make headway into the home market once corporations start shoving down it the throats of their employees. They will do this because it's cheaper, safer and easier to manage then windows. Once joe sixpack learns linux at work they will install it at home so they can take work home.
That's what happend with windows and thats what will happen with linux. For every install of linux on a corporate desktop there will be another one at home.
Linux will topple windows, it's just a matter of time. Linux toppled unix in less then ten years and that's starting from zero.
install exchange and try to recover that box from bare metal. Once you fail miserably then try to figure out how much it's going to cost you to try and get bare metal recovery.
Next try using some client other then outlook. See what functionality you get.
Next compare how long it takes to pull a large mailbox across the internet from exchange vs any other email server.
Go read the features oracle groupware suit has. See how it deals with voicemail and fax out of the box? See how it can read emails to you on your cell phone? Then read about how large an oracle database can scale.
I hope to god your management is smart enough to at least do a bare metal recovery test before they put all of their email into a server. If they don't then they are idiots.
Nonsense. It lacks the features and the scalibility of oracle collaboration suite and yet costs more. It can not support as many users as groupwise. it's more expensive then samsung connect. It's harder to maintain then all of the above. It locks you into one platform. It's expensive to back up. It's slow as hell and chatty as hell. It relies on weird, undocumented and proprietary RPC formats.
Oddly enough it also actually does very little. Outlook does most of the work. Exchange is only useful if you have outlook.
What kind of crappy mail and calender server only works with one client?
Before you tell me that it supports imap or whatever please consider how much functionality you lose if you don't use the proprietary MS transport mechanisms.
The stock is strong but it's not growing. It's become stagnant and is going down slightly. What this means is that MS can no longer generate profits by selling it's stock at a higher price it paid for it. This hurts their profitability. This is why they cut R&D to make their numbers. In order to show the same amount of profit they had to cut R&D. This is just the tip of the iceberg, MS is going to have to really creative to show stagnant or increasing profits.
Remember people who buy stock don't care about how much profit a company makes now, they care about how much it will make in the future. They want their stock to go up so they buy stocks in companies which show growth. MS has pretty much stopped growing.
"Do you really think that MS is going to go belly up if they lose more of the server market, let's at least stay consistant here."
Well Linux stopped MS from achieving a monopoly in the server market. For that alone we should all be grateful. But linux isn't done yet. It WILL make a desktop play sooner or later. This will come first from corporations who don't care if it doesn't play games or if some goofy sound card or digital camera doesn't work. Once the corporate desktop starts rolling the home market will follow.
"You don't think these guys will feed off each other to stay alive? These are the same people in active lawsuits with 13 year olds."
LOL, you expect people who sue 13 year olds not to fuck Gates? I for one can't wait till these guys give Gates a taste of his own medicine.
"Who do you think is going to get their business, Linus or Bill?"
It will be Sun, IBM, Novell, REdHat, HP, CA, Oracle, Sybase, SAP or somebody like that. Mark my words, your favorite corporation has nowhere to go but down.
You forgot backup and disaster recovery. If you want bare metal recovery you have to pay through the nose with windows, with linux it's free. I guess it's no surprise that the most essential sysadmin task is the most expensive in windows and free in linux.
Deep ecologists are driving SUVs? I think you are severly confused there buddy.
Your hatred of the environmentalists is clouding your vision. You have no idea what they are saying or what they are advocating or why. You simply have a kneejerk reaction to people who think different then you and you are railing against what you think they are saying without paying attention to what they are actually saying.
We are all going to die sooner or later, every single human being will be wiped out one day just like the dinasours are. After millions of years the dinasaurs were wiped out. Too bad for the dinasaurs but the earth wasn't effected all that much. The same thing will happen with humans. We will be gone but the earth won't even notice.
Environmentalism is about making our lives better and our children's lives better. The reason the air in LA is cleaner today then it was 10 years ago wasn't because the industrialists and the capitalists decided not to polute anymore it was because the environmentalists complained loudly enough. People like you fought them every step of the way but you guys lost that one. Because you lost the air in LA is cleaner and people are a little bit healthier.
That's one small battle and you lost that one but you guys win much more then you lose so don't feel bad. The worlds environment is on a downward spiral and for that you can be proud I guess.
Go kill some hippies today, I am sure it will make you feel much better about yourself.
"This isn't Commodore or Atari, this is a company that can stay afloat with capital for the next 5-10 years with no real problems. "
I don't know. MS makes a ton of money by buying and selling it's own stock. Once the stock starts nosediving it will create a positive feedback mechanism and MS profits will nosedive along with it. This of course will further drive down the price. MS will then be forced to spend their cash reserves and will in all likelyhood start buying up companies like ATT did probably with the same effect.
" Linux is still not mainstream, they may gain a bit more server market but not enough to topple MS."
It's not mainstream in your basement, or your aunties house but it's mainstream in the server room right now.
"Come on now, Gates is probably the single most important key to their survival. Not to say that the resourceful will not be able to defeat DMRs and the like but Joe Sixpack has to fall in line with Windows, he has little choice or little will to stop it."
HA HA. That's pretty funny. You think these guys give a shit about anybody else but themselves? Bill Gates has now entered into a world where everybody is as evil if not more evil them him. It's a whole new ball game now as he will soon find out. He entered the phone industry and got spanked by nokia let's see who ends up spanking him now.
"I've been hearing this very mantra out of the Linux/open source community for years. Microsoft is still as strong as they were then."
No they are not. Their stock price has started to decline, they are suffering from brain drain, they have had a string of horrible flops, they are cutting back on R&D to stay profitable, foreign nations are negotiating rock bottom prices for their software and some US companies are waking up to the fact that they can do the same. They are clearly not the same company they were two or three years ago. They are still profitable, they are still large, they still make a lot of money but it's pretty clear they have already peaked. It will take a while but they will become "just another IT company" in the next five to ten years.
"I heard great stories about how an OS called Linux was going to be mainstream and the revolution was going to happen quickly and, seemingly, out of nowhere."
It has!. Have you been sleeping for the last five years? Linux went from being an interesting hobby to a robust enterprise operating system that is now in every single one of the fortune 500 companies and hosting mission critical applications in both the govt and industry. Linux is THE main force in the server space right now. If I was Microsoft (or one of their shills) I would be shaking in my boots at the rate of progress of linux especially compared to the rate of progress of windows which seems to be slowing down.
"Now the same Linux crowd, probably out of frustration, is looking for Google to destroy Microsoft. Oh well, I guess in a few more years I'll still be hearing the samething about some new shinny trinket."
Google is an important ally in the war against Microsoft. Microsoft declared war on the rest of the IT industry and now virtually the entire industry is allied together to defeat MS. If I was to place my bets I would bet against MS. A company needs allies and partners to succeed and MS has fucked too many partners and burned too many bridges to gain tactical advantage. They are a company which thinks tactically at the expense of long term strategy.
"As true as this statement may be (and I'm not even sold on that), why do you take Gates as a fool? You may think Gates is a thief or a fraud, fine, but to underestimate Gates is a bad thing, if you see him as an enemy."
I do agree with you on this one. Gates is diabolically unethical but he is also very smart. In fact he has already started to gain new allies outside the IT world. He knows nobody in the IT industry trusts him anymore (and rightly so) so he is going to the Music and film industry to try and find allies. We will see if they trust him more but somehow I doubt it. Gates kind of rolled over the IT industry because it was young and people trusted him. He was able to use that trust to knife them in the back. The entertainment industry however is filled with TrulyEvilBastards (TM), he may feel like he is in his element there but I would suspect he is the one that is going to get stabbed in the back. Bill Gates has no ethics when it comes to business but he is a saint compared to the people in the RIAA and MPAA.
There are three commandments of corporations, memorize them, practise the, live them. They are...
Lie, cheat, steal.
That's it. Leave your morals and ethics at the door in a corporation there is only one commandment and that is "make more money". Never mind what your parents, teachers and your priest said. None of that matters anymore. Lie, cheat, steal, make more money.
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Joe will install windows at home when his boss shoves it down his throat at work. Joe does not make choices. Joe will not ever install linux at home until his boss installs it at work.
You simply are unable to understand this. You keep thinking that joe is out there actively choosing one OS over another. Joe does no such thing. He eats what you shove down his throat.
Keep shilling though, I am sure it makes Gates feel better to know his troops are out there trying to hard.
Why wouln't it scale down? If you are small and are likely to stay small try the following.
Sansung connect (used to HP open mail). Kerio, Merak, communigate pro. They all will do the job, cost less, be easier to manage.
No I mean a distro that gets updated less often the ubuntu but more often then debian stable. One with a thousand server packages on it.
Where is ubuntu for servers? That's what I want to know.
You know what you are describing looks an aweful lot like a distributed version control system with bittorrent as a transport. Of course with bittorrent you need a server to act as a tracker though.
Why couln't something like SVK work for this?
Where is the shared nothing clustering?
"I've worked in a company that has had incompetents working on PCs for years that won't fire these employees. If Joe can do the bare minimum he will save his job. Joe isn't going to feel good about going with an OS he has trouble with at work. Especially if his friends remain with Windows."
Joe doesn't feel good about windows either. Joe is going to use at home what he uses as work. That's it. That's the way it's always been.
"Exatcly! finally you see my point! So why do you think Joe is going to move to Linux? "
Because he wants to take work home. Because his boss shoved it down his throat and he has to. Joe doesn't make choices, he eats whatever you shove down his throat.
"Again, Joe isn't going to use it at home if it's a pain in the ass at work. "
Yes he is. Why did joe use windows at home when the mac was so much better. Mac has always been easier to use then a PC and yet joe bought a PC because that's what he has at work.
"Joe resists change, that's a very human thing to do"
That's right. But oddly enough he changes when somebody shoves it down his throat. Every two years MS shoves a new OS that looks and acts different down his throat and he just learns it. Going from 2K to XP is no different from switching from XP to linux.
" Joe resists change and Joe trusts what he's familure with more than what he doesn't know"
That's right. He will get linux shoved down his throat at work, he will be come familiar with it, he will install it at home so he can take work home.
That's what happened with windows, that's what will happen with linux.
If you think RPC over HTTP is fast then you have had your expectations managed by MS.
But that's all besides the point isn't it? Exchange is useless without outlook, it's expensive to install and manage, you need to throw thousands of dollars more to back it up and restore it. Oracle suite is better and cheaper.
Why would you use exchange?
"In biology? "
Yes, ever hear of ebola? flesh eating bacteria? or a thousand other diseases?
"Don't forget the economic factor either. Joe is still looking for the best deal possible and while he may spend 50K on a SUV to make a fashion statement the same is not true of his PC, he's looking for dirt cheap."
Right, windows is almost as good as a mac but a lot cheaper. Linux is almost as good as windows but a lot cheaper.
"oe already knows Windows, by the time that linux is big in the work place and Joe is comfortable enough with it we'll be well past your 10 year timeframe."
Nope, Joe will get linux shoved down his throat or he will quit or get fired. Once it's installed if he goes more then two months before gaining some competence he will be on his ass.
". He wants something that works that he doesn't have to bust his ass re-learning."
Joe doesn't give a shit. Joe does not make choices. If joe cared about ease of use he would use a mac. Joe uses whatever comes with his computer, joe uses what he learns at work. Joe has used buggy and crash prone windows since 3.0. He complains but he keeps using whatever dell shoves down his throat.
Joe will never choose anything, he won't choose linux, linux will be shoved down his throat, he will complain but he will eat it. Just like he complains now and eats windows.
"Watch Joe freak out. You're selling a fresh product to a guy who doesn't really want to re-learn everything he just learned in the past 5-10 years."
Joe relearns everything with every version of windows. He is used to it by now.
"ow is going to see Linux as a pain in the ass, not as a ladder out of a hole."
It won't matter. Joe's boss is going to shove linux down his throat and he will learn to eat it or go find another job. Joe doesn't get a say in this.
"while he may not be happy with how windows works he isn't going to have much more faith in Linux and it's going to take years just to gain his trust."
Joe trusts everything implicitly. He trusts everything his computer tells him. If he gets an email saying "amazon.com wants you to re-enter your personal information here" he will do it. If he gets an email saying "check this out" he will click on it. Joe trusts everything.
"But you must consider that they are like parasites, and like parasites when the host dies they die. Gates is their host and they know it."
Not all parasites spare their victims.
"How are they going to fill a hole left by MS? Linux is not a home users reality,"
You keep going back and forth from server to home. People at home eat whatever you shove down their throat. More precisely they eat whatever their boss shoves down their throat at work. That's why windows is dominant and not the mac despite the fact that macs are easier to use and look better. People install the same software at home that they use at work.
Linux will make headway into the home market once corporations start shoving down it the throats of their employees. They will do this because it's cheaper, safer and easier to manage then windows. Once joe sixpack learns linux at work they will install it at home so they can take work home.
That's what happend with windows and thats what will happen with linux. For every install of linux on a corporate desktop there will be another one at home.
Linux will topple windows, it's just a matter of time. Linux toppled unix in less then ten years and that's starting from zero.
Ooooh I can see you are close to orgasming over this extension of SVG so I will leave you to it.
Just try it yourself.
install exchange and try to recover that box from bare metal. Once you fail miserably then try to figure out how much it's going to cost you to try and get bare metal recovery.
Next try using some client other then outlook. See what functionality you get.
Next compare how long it takes to pull a large mailbox across the internet from exchange vs any other email server.
Go read the features oracle groupware suit has. See how it deals with voicemail and fax out of the box? See how it can read emails to you on your cell phone? Then read about how large an oracle database can scale.
I hope to god your management is smart enough to at least do a bare metal recovery test before they put all of their email into a server. If they don't then they are idiots.
Nonsense. It lacks the features and the scalibility of oracle collaboration suite and yet costs more. It can not support as many users as groupwise. it's more expensive then samsung connect. It's harder to maintain then all of the above. It locks you into one platform. It's expensive to back up. It's slow as hell and chatty as hell. It relies on weird, undocumented and proprietary RPC formats.
Oddly enough it also actually does very little. Outlook does most of the work. Exchange is only useful if you have outlook.
What kind of crappy mail and calender server only works with one client?
Before you tell me that it supports imap or whatever please consider how much functionality you lose if you don't use the proprietary MS transport mechanisms.
Are you saying there are no other products that allow you to share calenders? Are you saying that MS invented shared calenders?
Both of those of course are wrong. Exchange is yet another "me too" product from MS.
Wow, that was the most breathless shilling I have seen in a long time. So MS took SVG and did an embrace and extend and it's AWESOME!. Yea right.
It's amazing to me. One of it's large customers wants open document format and they give them PDF instead. So much for listening to your customers.
"And it's still strong."
The stock is strong but it's not growing. It's become stagnant and is going down slightly. What this means is that MS can no longer generate profits by selling it's stock at a higher price it paid for it. This hurts their profitability. This is why they cut R&D to make their numbers. In order to show the same amount of profit they had to cut R&D. This is just the tip of the iceberg, MS is going to have to really creative to show stagnant or increasing profits.
Remember people who buy stock don't care about how much profit a company makes now, they care about how much it will make in the future. They want their stock to go up so they buy stocks in companies which show growth. MS has pretty much stopped growing.
"Do you really think that MS is going to go belly up if they lose more of the server market, let's at least stay consistant here."
Well Linux stopped MS from achieving a monopoly in the server market. For that alone we should all be grateful. But linux isn't done yet. It WILL make a desktop play sooner or later. This will come first from corporations who don't care if it doesn't play games or if some goofy sound card or digital camera doesn't work. Once the corporate desktop starts rolling the home market will follow.
"You don't think these guys will feed off each other to stay alive? These are the same people in active lawsuits with 13 year olds."
LOL, you expect people who sue 13 year olds not to fuck Gates? I for one can't wait till these guys give Gates a taste of his own medicine.
"Who do you think is going to get their business, Linus or Bill?"
It will be Sun, IBM, Novell, REdHat, HP, CA, Oracle, Sybase, SAP or somebody like that. Mark my words, your favorite corporation has nowhere to go but down.
You forgot backup and disaster recovery. If you want bare metal recovery you have to pay through the nose with windows, with linux it's free. I guess it's no surprise that the most essential sysadmin task is the most expensive in windows and free in linux.
Why don't the shills realize that their zealotry is hurting their favorite corporation?
Deep ecologists are driving SUVs? I think you are severly confused there buddy.
Your hatred of the environmentalists is clouding your vision. You have no idea what they are saying or what they are advocating or why. You simply have a kneejerk reaction to people who think different then you and you are railing against what you think they are saying without paying attention to what they are actually saying.
We are all going to die sooner or later, every single human being will be wiped out one day just like the dinasours are. After millions of years the dinasaurs were wiped out. Too bad for the dinasaurs but the earth wasn't effected all that much. The same thing will happen with humans. We will be gone but the earth won't even notice.
Environmentalism is about making our lives better and our children's lives better. The reason the air in LA is cleaner today then it was 10 years ago wasn't because the industrialists and the capitalists decided not to polute anymore it was because the environmentalists complained loudly enough. People like you fought them every step of the way but you guys lost that one. Because you lost the air in LA is cleaner and people are a little bit healthier.
That's one small battle and you lost that one but you guys win much more then you lose so don't feel bad. The worlds environment is on a downward spiral and for that you can be proud I guess.
Go kill some hippies today, I am sure it will make you feel much better about yourself.
"This isn't Commodore or Atari, this is a company that can stay afloat with capital for the next 5-10 years with no real problems. "
I don't know. MS makes a ton of money by buying and selling it's own stock. Once the stock starts nosediving it will create a positive feedback mechanism and MS profits will nosedive along with it. This of course will further drive down the price. MS will then be forced to spend their cash reserves and will in all likelyhood start buying up companies like ATT did probably with the same effect.
" Linux is still not mainstream, they may gain a bit more server market but not enough to topple MS."
It's not mainstream in your basement, or your aunties house but it's mainstream in the server room right now.
"Come on now, Gates is probably the single most important key to their survival. Not to say that the resourceful will not be able to defeat DMRs and the like but Joe Sixpack has to fall in line with Windows, he has little choice or little will to stop it."
HA HA. That's pretty funny. You think these guys give a shit about anybody else but themselves? Bill Gates has now entered into a world where everybody is as evil if not more evil them him. It's a whole new ball game now as he will soon find out. He entered the phone industry and got spanked by nokia let's see who ends up spanking him now.
You realize that ecology and environmentalism has nothing to do with god right?
"I've been hearing this very mantra out of the Linux/open source community for years. Microsoft is still as strong as they were then."
No they are not. Their stock price has started to decline, they are suffering from brain drain, they have had a string of horrible flops, they are cutting back on R&D to stay profitable, foreign nations are negotiating rock bottom prices for their software and some US companies are waking up to the fact that they can do the same. They are clearly not the same company they were two or three years ago. They are still profitable, they are still large, they still make a lot of money but it's pretty clear they have already peaked. It will take a while but they will become "just another IT company" in the next five to ten years.
"I heard great stories about how an OS called Linux was going to be mainstream and the revolution was going to happen quickly and, seemingly, out of nowhere."
It has!. Have you been sleeping for the last five years? Linux went from being an interesting hobby to a robust enterprise operating system that is now in every single one of the fortune 500 companies and hosting mission critical applications in both the govt and industry. Linux is THE main force in the server space right now. If I was Microsoft (or one of their shills) I would be shaking in my boots at the rate of progress of linux especially compared to the rate of progress of windows which seems to be slowing down.
"Now the same Linux crowd, probably out of frustration, is looking for Google to destroy Microsoft. Oh well, I guess in a few more years I'll still be hearing the samething about some new shinny trinket."
Google is an important ally in the war against Microsoft. Microsoft declared war on the rest of the IT industry and now virtually the entire industry is allied together to defeat MS. If I was to place my bets I would bet against MS. A company needs allies and partners to succeed and MS has fucked too many partners and burned too many bridges to gain tactical advantage. They are a company which thinks tactically at the expense of long term strategy.
"As true as this statement may be (and I'm not even sold on that), why do you take Gates as a fool? You may think Gates is a thief or a fraud, fine, but to underestimate Gates is a bad thing, if you see him as an enemy."
I do agree with you on this one. Gates is diabolically unethical but he is also very smart. In fact he has already started to gain new allies outside the IT world. He knows nobody in the IT industry trusts him anymore (and rightly so) so he is going to the Music and film industry to try and find allies. We will see if they trust him more but somehow I doubt it. Gates kind of rolled over the IT industry because it was young and people trusted him. He was able to use that trust to knife them in the back. The entertainment industry however is filled with TrulyEvilBastards (TM), he may feel like he is in his element there but I would suspect he is the one that is going to get stabbed in the back. Bill Gates has no ethics when it comes to business but he is a saint compared to the people in the RIAA and MPAA.
If I may summarize your post.
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There are three commandments of corporations, memorize them, practise the, live them. They are
Lie, cheat, steal.
That's it. Leave your morals and ethics at the door in a corporation there is only one commandment and that is "make more money". Never mind what your parents, teachers and your priest said. None of that matters anymore. Lie, cheat, steal, make more money.
Let me guess. God created the animals to serve us, amuse us, and to feed us right?