Huh? We want to avoid war? The country that can't go more then five years without dropping bombs on some poor fucker or another? What the fuck are you talking about? We LOVE war, it gives us meaning, it defines us as a nation. If we didn't kick somebodies ass every few years we would get an inferiority complex.
When was the last time China went to war with somebody? When was the last time they threatened to?
War has nothing to do with it. Our interest is money, money is our interest. There is no other US interest then making money. None, zippo, nada, zilch, nothing.
I call bullshit. If all that is true and will bring china into democracy why aren't we doing the same thing with Cuba?
We are doing all those things because we want the money. It has nothing to do with democracy. If Cuba has a large market we would have done it with cuba they don't so we boycott them.
It's all about the money, iraq is about the money, china is about the money democracy has nothing to do with it.
They also forget how MS raped orange and drove them into the ground the last time they went into the phone business too.
The question is why would anybody get in to bed with a known rapist? Does palm really believe MS are reformed and will not fuck them like they fucked orange?
Let's just pretend eclipse doesn't exist. Every time this topic comes up all the VS geeks go on and on about how there is nothing even close when in fact eclipse+java or IDEA+java or Netbeans+java is far superior to VS in too many ways to list.
"It would be wrong to teach evolution in schools as though it were fact. It would also be wrong to teach the theory of universal gravitation or Newtonian Physics as fact, since they have been proven to be untrue on very small scales, or at very high velocities."
What an odd thing to say. First of all you yourself said that evolution does happen. Anyway....
If it's "very wrong" to teach evolution as though it was fact why is it OK to teach that some super intelligent being designed the universe? Where is your body of evidence for that?
This is the problem with you religious fundamentalists. To you all theories are equally valid. If I claim that the universe was created when a giant turtle shit that's just as valid as a super intelligent being in the sky created it which is just as valid as evolution right?
How come you guys don't want to teach my giant turtle shit theory though? I mean evolution is just a theory, it's not a fact and my theory is just as good as evolution or your bearded white guy in the sky theory.
I am not saying that it's not a theory. I am saying it's not "just a theory". Evolution is a theory just like gravity and relativity are theories. To the ignorant christian fundamentalists (like our president for example) if something is "just a theory" then it's not a fact and you can subsitute any theory you want in it's place including the theory that a white guy with a long beard who lives in the sky did it.
There are other boards with moderation likes you suggest. Perhaps you could provide a link where such a moderation system has been successful (for a given definition of successful).
"I'd much rather have an interface that makes it easy to get things done, or an easy setup for my wireless network card, or any number of things other than utilizing hardware as efficiently as possible."
If that was the case you would me using a Mac. FOr the last several decades the Mac has had an interface that makes it easier to get things done and has had exceptional plug and play capabilities.
The fact that you did not and do not use a mac means that you held other factors in higher regard then ease of use or the interface. Chances are for you things like price, familiarity, availability of software and commonolity with what you use at work much more compelling then the interface.
You like most american businesspeople are simply unethical and are willing to do anything and everything to make more money. It's sad but every word you say is completely true. When Jesus said "love of money is the root of all evil" he wasn't kidding. It's ironic that capitalism became such a major force in the world I guess the forces of evil found a way to make love of money the very fabric of all societies in the world.
"You know, he didn't HAVE to give a dime. He DID, because he wanted to"
No he did it because his PR people told him to and to re-habilitate his image. He didn't give a dime till the anti trust suit started. Did he all of a sudden come to jesus and realized that he wanted to help the little people? I think not.
While I agree with you that corporatism and capitalism are almost always evil enterprises resulting in evil deeds (evil as defined by the religion of your choice) there are gradiations of evil.
Apple has certainly done evil deeds just like every other corporation in the world but not as many as Microsoft or walmart. You can't simply say "every is evil so therefore we should make no judgements". It doesn't work like that.
Enron did a lot of evil shit and you know what some people ended up in jail because of it (none of Bush's buddies but that's a different topic). I would like to see some people form MS in jail. If for no other reason then perjury, evidence tampering and witness intimidation.
"On the other hand, you could write the next "Principia Mathematica" as a response to said first post and it will be modded "-1 Troll" if you don't praise open source in the first few sentences."
If you did write the next Principia Mathematica chances are it would be offtopic.
I agree that we should stop using the tem "gay marriage". Everytime anybody says "gay marriage" the republicans immediately picture two guys having anal sex and get disgusted. I propose the tem "lesbian marriage" instead. This way anytime the term comes up the republicans will picture two hot chicks having sex and voila, it will be legal. Who can be against two how chicks having sex?
IF a heterosexual openly proclaims their heterosexuality they are allowed to remain in the military. As you point out homosexuals are denied that right.
A long time ago (seems like another lifetime) I was in the military. I was fond of muttering the phrase "people in charge of me who should not be in charge of their own lives" anytime some dork officer came out with a brilliant plan which for some crazy reason involved all the enlisted personell running around cleaning and painting all the buildings.
When my enlistment ended that was the happiest day of my life.
No worse then Israel. There seems to be something in the water over there.
Democracy means nothing. There are constitutional monarchies with better human rights records then the US. All a democracy does is legitemize mob rule. If most of the people in your country want to deny an unpopular subset some right it lets them do it legally. See homosexuals in the US for example who do not have the right to marry or serve in the military.
"hey have proven time and time again that they know how to do the brute force method in wearing their opponents down."
Although they have this reputation it's based on old data. Sure they killed lotus 123 but they have failed miserably at almost every other attempt to kill somebody. Let's take a look at their intended kill targets and see what happened.
Netscape: bought by sun Java: Still thriving Novell: Still going Sony: Nope not dead yet Unix: better then ever Apple; better then ever Mainframes: better then ever Tivo: Nope still going strong AOL: Still going strong Orbitz: Still going strong Borland: Still alive and kicking. Oracle: better then ever SAP: Better then ever. Nokia: Better then ever yahoo: Better then ever
In the last decade MS has entered into dozens of market with the old "we are going to kill xxxx" FUD and failed misesably over and over again. Remember MSN-TV? remember MSN? microsoft at work? sidewalk? great plains? remember how xbox was going to kill sony and nintendo? remember when sql server was going to bankrupt oracle? remember when.NET was going to kill java? remember when NT was a "better unix then unix"? Remember when MS clustering was going to obselete mainframes?
So? Even if MS hacked your computer what would be the consequences? Nothing. They have proven themselves to be above the law and their users wouldn't even notice.
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If you don't like Kdevelop and eclipse then begging the community to give you something probably won't work.
Don't confuse your dislike of kdevelop or eclipse with "there is nothing that even comes close to VS". Both are "very close" to VS if not better.
Not that I expect any MS shill to admit that.
Huh? We want to avoid war? The country that can't go more then five years without dropping bombs on some poor fucker or another? What the fuck are you talking about? We LOVE war, it gives us meaning, it defines us as a nation. If we didn't kick somebodies ass every few years we would get an inferiority complex.
When was the last time China went to war with somebody? When was the last time they threatened to?
War has nothing to do with it. Our interest is money, money is our interest. There is no other US interest then making money. None, zippo, nada, zilch, nothing.
I call bullshit. If all that is true and will bring china into democracy why aren't we doing the same thing with Cuba?
We are doing all those things because we want the money. It has nothing to do with democracy. If Cuba has a large market we would have done it with cuba they don't so we boycott them.
It's all about the money, iraq is about the money, china is about the money democracy has nothing to do with it.
Since racism has not stopped then what? Do we do nothing?
They also forget how MS raped orange and drove them into the ground the last time they went into the phone business too.
The question is why would anybody get in to bed with a known rapist? Does palm really believe MS are reformed and will not fuck them like they fucked orange?
Let's just pretend eclipse doesn't exist. Every time this topic comes up all the VS geeks go on and on about how there is nothing even close when in fact eclipse+java or IDEA+java or Netbeans+java is far superior to VS in too many ways to list.
Will vista run win32 programs? If so you are full of shit.
They said the same thing about w2k and XP too. They have to say those kinds of things to make people think it's finally a decent product.
"It would be wrong to teach evolution in schools as though it were fact. It would also be wrong to teach the theory of universal gravitation or Newtonian Physics as fact, since they have been proven to be untrue on very small scales, or at very high velocities."
What an odd thing to say. First of all you yourself said that evolution does happen. Anyway....
If it's "very wrong" to teach evolution as though it was fact why is it OK to teach that some super intelligent being designed the universe? Where is your body of evidence for that?
This is the problem with you religious fundamentalists. To you all theories are equally valid. If I claim that the universe was created when a giant turtle shit that's just as valid as a super intelligent being in the sky created it which is just as valid as evolution right?
How come you guys don't want to teach my giant turtle shit theory though? I mean evolution is just a theory, it's not a fact and my theory is just as good as evolution or your bearded white guy in the sky theory.
I am not saying that it's not a theory. I am saying it's not "just a theory". Evolution is a theory just like gravity and relativity are theories. To the ignorant christian fundamentalists (like our president for example) if something is "just a theory" then it's not a fact and you can subsitute any theory you want in it's place including the theory that a white guy with a long beard who lives in the sky did it.
There are other boards with moderation likes you suggest. Perhaps you could provide a link where such a moderation system has been successful (for a given definition of successful).
"I'd much rather have an interface that makes it easy to get things done, or an easy setup for my wireless network card, or any number of things other than utilizing hardware as efficiently as possible."
If that was the case you would me using a Mac. FOr the last several decades the Mac has had an interface that makes it easier to get things done and has had exceptional plug and play capabilities.
The fact that you did not and do not use a mac means that you held other factors in higher regard then ease of use or the interface. Chances are for you things like price, familiarity, availability of software and commonolity with what you use at work much more compelling then the interface.
You like most american businesspeople are simply unethical and are willing to do anything and everything to make more money. It's sad but every word you say is completely true. When Jesus said "love of money is the root of all evil" he wasn't kidding. It's ironic that capitalism became such a major force in the world I guess the forces of evil found a way to make love of money the very fabric of all societies in the world.
"You know, he didn't HAVE to give a dime. He DID, because he wanted to"
No he did it because his PR people told him to and to re-habilitate his image. He didn't give a dime till the anti trust suit started. Did he all of a sudden come to jesus and realized that he wanted to help the little people? I think not.
While I agree with you that corporatism and capitalism are almost always evil enterprises resulting in evil deeds (evil as defined by the religion of your choice) there are gradiations of evil.
Apple has certainly done evil deeds just like every other corporation in the world but not as many as Microsoft or walmart. You can't simply say "every is evil so therefore we should make no judgements". It doesn't work like that.
Enron did a lot of evil shit and you know what some people ended up in jail because of it (none of Bush's buddies but that's a different topic). I would like to see some people form MS in jail. If for no other reason then perjury, evidence tampering and witness intimidation.
"On the other hand, you could write the next "Principia Mathematica" as a response to said first post and it will be modded "-1 Troll" if you don't praise open source in the first few sentences."
If you did write the next Principia Mathematica chances are it would be offtopic.
I note how carefully the definition does not mention "evolve" or "evolution". It simply says "adaptation to environment".
It's amazing what has happened to the US. IN this day and age we are still fighting ignorance every day.
It seems silly to fight over the definition of life when the good citizens of Pennsylvania have decided that evolution is "just a theory".
I agree that we should stop using the tem "gay marriage". Everytime anybody says "gay marriage" the republicans immediately picture two guys having anal sex and get disgusted. I propose the tem "lesbian marriage" instead. This way anytime the term comes up the republicans will picture two hot chicks having sex and voila, it will be legal. Who can be against two how chicks having sex?
IF a heterosexual openly proclaims their heterosexuality they are allowed to remain in the military. As you point out homosexuals are denied that right.
A long time ago (seems like another lifetime) I was in the military. I was fond of muttering the phrase "people in charge of me who should not be in charge of their own lives" anytime some dork officer came out with a brilliant plan which for some crazy reason involved all the enlisted personell running around cleaning and painting all the buildings.
When my enlistment ended that was the happiest day of my life.
No worse then Israel. There seems to be something in the water over there.
Democracy means nothing. There are constitutional monarchies with better human rights records then the US. All a democracy does is legitemize mob rule. If most of the people in your country want to deny an unpopular subset some right it lets them do it legally. See homosexuals in the US for example who do not have the right to marry or serve in the military.
"We're not talking about weaponizing space."
He left out the word "yet".
I am glad they have the capability to strike al-quada from space though. I am sure this will mean the war on terror will be over any day now.
I don't know. Turkey is in the middle east and it has been function as a democracy for a while now.
"hey have proven time and time again that they know how to do the brute force method in wearing their opponents down."
.NET was going to kill java? remember when NT was a "better unix then unix"? Remember when MS clustering was going to obselete mainframes?
Although they have this reputation it's based on old data. Sure they killed lotus 123 but they have failed miserably at almost every other attempt to kill somebody. Let's take a look at their intended kill targets and see what happened.
Netscape: bought by sun
Java: Still thriving
Novell: Still going
Sony: Nope not dead yet
Unix: better then ever
Apple; better then ever
Mainframes: better then ever
Tivo: Nope still going strong
AOL: Still going strong
Orbitz: Still going strong
Borland: Still alive and kicking.
Oracle: better then ever
SAP: Better then ever.
Nokia: Better then ever
yahoo: Better then ever
In the last decade MS has entered into dozens of market with the old "we are going to kill xxxx" FUD and failed misesably over and over again. Remember MSN-TV? remember MSN? microsoft at work? sidewalk? great plains? remember how xbox was going to kill sony and nintendo? remember when sql server was going to bankrupt oracle? remember when
I do.
So? Even if MS hacked your computer what would be the consequences? Nothing. They have proven themselves to be above the law and their users wouldn't even notice.