In order to compete with J2EE it needs a few things.
1) Object relational layer. 2) Transaction control. 3) Ability to call code in another container i.e some sort of a naming service. 4) SOAP and CORBA support (at least SOAP).
'SOAP: People request it, but noone has needed it badly enough to write an implementation."
Maybe the people who need it use something else. It's much easier then hacking zope.
"Cross Container communications: I have no clue what you are talking about."
In J2EE you can run many containers on many computers and the framework allows you to distribute your beans as you see fit. When you call a bean you can find it whether it's on the same machine or not.
What you are saying is that starting with the moment of conception a womans uterus now belongs to the state. She will be forced to carry this baby and give birth to it.
To me there is no appreciable difference between that and saying that the uterus belongs to the state and that she must not carry the baby and give birth to it.
"Currently, life is defined as beginning at birth, and so unborn fetuses have no rights under the Constitution,"
Yes and no. Abortion is illegal after the third trimester. So before then it's a baby, after that time it's considered to be a baby. There is one exception to that which is the life of the mother. If giving birth is likely to kill the mother the baby is killed. That seems reasonable to me. Apparently it's not reasonable to other people. Apparently the mother should be killed to save the baby which makes no sense at all.
What I find amusing is that pro life people talk about abortion as murder but none of them are willing to put the mother in jail for murder for having an abortion. That leads me to believe that they don't really think it's like killing a person. They somehow think it's more like killing a dog or something. Punishable by law but not like murder.
BTW did you know that abortions went up during the bush administration? Funny huh?
First of all you are replying to the wrong person.
Second the links work just fine for people of average intelligence. Slashdot mangles URLS on purpose and you have to fix them.
Third I am shocked that those are the only pictures you found try memoryhole. There are lots more pictures and movies which were never released. Rumsfeld discribed them as "sadistic and sick". I would shudder to think what rumsfeld thinks is sadistic.
Fouth. I am not tarnishing the entire military. The republitard I was talking to thought that the worse anybody did was to put some panties on somebodies head. I wanted to set him straight.
Fifth. Nobody knows what is going on in the prisons in afghanistan, yemen, quatar or cuba. There have been many reported deaths in afghanistan prisons for example.
Sixth The US military has killed 16 thousand innocent civillians in iraq alone. It has most likely killed over a 100,000 people it classifies as combatants of whom the vast majority were conscripts. That's just iraq and that's just up to now. For what nobody seems to know. The reasons keep changing. We are about to go into faluja and kill another five to ten thousand people because they refuse to obey Allawi. How much sense does that make? So all those military members who did not torture anybody are going to run into a city with tanks and helicopters and take a few thousand more lives. Well at least they killed them with guns huh? That's much better then beating them to death huh?
It is you who is not thinking. It is you who blindly accepts whatever GW says. It is you who has swallowed all the propaganda.
As for evolution, I thought you guys didn't believe in that.
Hey retardo. Slashdot mangles URLs. It puts spaces in them. Take out the space (that's %20) and then paste it. Man you are dumber then a bag of hammers. You must be home schooled or something.
"I haven't seen them, which is central to my argument that you ought to provide them."
My you are proud of your ignorance. Just type "abu ghraib pictures" into google and you will see them. Or try memoryhole.com.
You see there is a thing called the internet. It countains all kinds of information. You should look into it. Clearly you are not getting the kind of education you need from Rush.
" I thought liberals were supposed to be so tolerant and understanding of diversity."
Yes, tolerant of racial and cultural diversity. There is no rule saying that we are supposed to tolerate ignorant nazis like you. Your kind needs to be eliminated from the face of this planet. You are a stain on society and a disgrace to all Americans.
Right now women have the right to have an abortion. Why would they give that up willingly? Why should a women have to carry to birth a baby she does not want? Why would you want to force her to?
In china women are being forced to abort because they have too many people. If the sate makes the decision that it owns the women's uterus and has the right to dictate when a women can or can't have a baby then we are no better off then china.
Philosophically speaking there is no appreciable difference between forcing a woman to have an abortion or preventing her from having one.
"Last but not least, Fox viewers are also of above-average intellect and critical judgment."
No they are not. Studies have shown that Fox viewers are more misinformed then the viewers of other news channels. They are even more misinformed then the viewers of fake news programs (The daily show).
"Show me documented proof that a prisoner was beaten to death. Thus far, no such evidence has surfaced, so your claim is fabricated as far as I'm concerned."
Aahh a republitard. Totally and completely ignorant and hapy about it. First of all read the armies report. The US army medical examiner has ruled the deaths of multiple afghani prisoners of war as murder. That's right murder. Now I don't expect you'll do your own research but just google. I did a google and these two links were on the first page, there are many more if you are brave enough to look.
Of course now that I have proven to you that the US military beat prisoners to death you will excuse that too.
"Again, show me proof. Thus far, no such incidents have been publicized. You're the one making the accusations. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. If you don't have it, you're just fabricating things again. You sure you're not Dan Rather?"
Har Har Har. Dan Rather. Har HAr Har. Man I bet that kills with your republitard friends huh. Hed did you see those pictures of prisoners that were crufied on jail doors and metal beds? Har Har HAr that shit is funny. Hey did you see the picture of that prisoner that was handcuffed to a stair railing for three days? Har HAr HAr, that's some funny shit huh?
"Where was your moral outrage when Uday and Qusay were running rape rooms in Baghdad? Where was your anger when Abu Ghraib was being run by Saddam's goons"
Hey I am a liberal. I was protesting the reagan administration when they were supporting saddam. I joined amnesty international and supported them when they published all the sadistic things saddam has done. While Bush Sr and Rumsfeld were giving money and chemicals to Saddam me and my friends were trying to get people to vote against them and supporting their opposition.
"It reminds me why I'm glad I'm nothing like you."
Nothing makes me happier then to know I am not like you. You are sick, sadistic retard. You are one of those people who get better longer lasting erections when you hear about people being killed in your name and tortured. Do you tell your wife or girlfriend you are picturing a prisoner being sodomized with a broomstick when you are fucking her?
Zope is pretty far away from being a competitor to J2EE. I really wish it was but it just isn't.
What is lacking? Fine grained trasaction control, object relational layer (some people have data in relational databases), automagic SOAP publishing of objects, cross container communications (RMI at least) etc.
I would love it if zope at least had SOAP support but all they have is XML-RPC.
I know you are kidding but it's kind of a profound question. "What could zope be?".
It could be web server, it could be a ftp server, it could be a CMS system, it could be an object oriented database. It is and could be all of those things.
What it hasn't been so far is some sort of a J2EE like framework for python. That's what it should be IMHO. If zope took that role on it could be an answer to everybody who does not like java or at least prefers python to java.
Alas nobody seems to be interested in moving it towards that.
"Since the French, Germans, Russians, and Brit intelligence agencies were all saying the same thing, I think you ought to include them just to be fair."
Except for the britons none of the others were sure enough to go to war.
"What happened to Daniel Pearl was an attrocity. The killing of hundreds of innocent schoolchildren in Beslan by Muslim terrorists is an attrocity. Wearing panties on your head and being forced to pose nude for photographs is not an attrocity -- except in your morally twisted mind."
How about having a chemical light shoved up your ass? How about being beaten to death? How about having your chest kicked hard enough to break a couple of ribs? How about being strapped to a board and continually dunked in the river? How about being crucified to a jail door for days at a time? How about having shit smeared on you and being harnessed in a crufix pose for days at a time? How about having chunks of meat taken out of your thighs by a german shepard? How about being raped repeatedly by solder after soldier?
Every single one of those was admitted to by the Army? What kind of sick and degenerate moral upbringing do you have that you can excuse this? exactly how sadistic are you?
YOu are able to excuse any act no matter how vile as long as that act was committed by a republican. I feel sorry for everyone around you. You are clearly a deranged being.
Why don't you shove a chemical light up your son's ass and tell him it's just like having panties on his head.
Hey no fair injecting facts into a discussion about the environment. What are you some sort of a liberal elite collage profrofessor or something. We don't need your fancy book learnin around here faggot.
It's OK. He is not going to let the faggots get married. That's the most important thing. Who cares about jobs when your marriage is under assault by activist judges.
Think of it. If they let the faggots marry one of them will take your wife away. I mean how can you be expected to compete with a hot lesbian who will pleasure your wife longer and better then you? The worst thing is that they probably won't even let you watch.
"In other words, engage in some activism. Help out the EFF, fight software patents in Europe, do whatever it takes to stop this problem at the source: Evil Government..."
Why not do both. Fight the evil govt AND bash evil scum sucking corporations like MS and SCO. Of course it's not like either one cares. They have shown that they can distract the populace easily by pointing at bright shiny objects and homosexuals who want to get married.
Think of it this way. Every million spent on quackery is one less million to spend on bombs. Of course without enough bombs we can't make the people of falujah obey allawi but that's another discussion altogether.
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In order to compete with J2EE it needs a few things.
1) Object relational layer.
2) Transaction control.
3) Ability to call code in another container i.e some sort of a naming service.
4) SOAP and CORBA support (at least SOAP).
'SOAP: People request it, but noone has needed it badly enough to write an implementation."
Maybe the people who need it use something else. It's much easier then hacking zope.
"Cross Container communications: I have no clue what you are talking about."
In J2EE you can run many containers on many computers and the framework allows you to distribute your beans as you see fit. When you call a bean you can find it whether it's on the same machine or not.
What you are saying is that starting with the moment of conception a womans uterus now belongs to the state. She will be forced to carry this baby and give birth to it.
To me there is no appreciable difference between that and saying that the uterus belongs to the state and that she must not carry the baby and give birth to it.
"Currently, life is defined as beginning at birth, and so unborn fetuses have no rights under the Constitution,"
Yes and no. Abortion is illegal after the third trimester. So before then it's a baby, after that time it's considered to be a baby. There is one exception to that which is the life of the mother. If giving birth is likely to kill the mother the baby is killed. That seems reasonable to me. Apparently it's not reasonable to other people. Apparently the mother should be killed to save the baby which makes no sense at all.
What I find amusing is that pro life people talk about abortion as murder but none of them are willing to put the mother in jail for murder for having an abortion. That leads me to believe that they don't really think it's like killing a person. They somehow think it's more like killing a dog or something. Punishable by law but not like murder.
BTW did you know that abortions went up during the bush administration? Funny huh?
Where is SOAP, CORBA and transaction control?
First of all you are replying to the wrong person.
Second the links work just fine for people of average intelligence. Slashdot mangles URLS on purpose and you have to fix them.
Third I am shocked that those are the only pictures you found try memoryhole. There are lots more pictures and movies which were never released. Rumsfeld discribed them as "sadistic and sick". I would shudder to think what rumsfeld thinks is sadistic.
Fouth. I am not tarnishing the entire military. The republitard I was talking to thought that the worse anybody did was to put some panties on somebodies head. I wanted to set him straight.
Fifth. Nobody knows what is going on in the prisons in afghanistan, yemen, quatar or cuba. There have been many reported deaths in afghanistan prisons for example.
Sixth The US military has killed 16 thousand innocent civillians in iraq alone. It has most likely killed over a 100,000 people it classifies as combatants of whom the vast majority were conscripts. That's just iraq and that's just up to now. For what nobody seems to know. The reasons keep changing. We are about to go into faluja and kill another five to ten thousand people because they refuse to obey Allawi. How much sense does that make? So all those military members who did not torture anybody are going to run into a city with tanks and helicopters and take a few thousand more lives. Well at least they killed them with guns huh? That's much better then beating them to death huh?
It is you who is not thinking. It is you who blindly accepts whatever GW says. It is you who has swallowed all the propaganda.
As for evolution, I thought you guys didn't believe in that.
"Sorry, link is dead. Try again."
Hey retardo. Slashdot mangles URLs. It puts spaces in them. Take out the space (that's %20) and then paste it. Man you are dumber then a bag of hammers. You must be home schooled or something.
"I haven't seen them, which is central to my argument that you ought to provide them."
My you are proud of your ignorance. Just type "abu ghraib pictures" into google and you will see them. Or try memoryhole.com.
You see there is a thing called the internet. It countains all kinds of information. You should look into it. Clearly you are not getting the kind of education you need from Rush.
" I thought liberals were supposed to be so tolerant and understanding of diversity."
Yes, tolerant of racial and cultural diversity. There is no rule saying that we are supposed to tolerate ignorant nazis like you. Your kind needs to be eliminated from the face of this planet. You are a stain on society and a disgrace to all Americans.
More importantly whatever happened to those second batch of pictures that were supposed to be released "sooner rather then later"
Right now women have the right to have an abortion. Why would they give that up willingly? Why should a women have to carry to birth a baby she does not want? Why would you want to force her to?
In china women are being forced to abort because they have too many people. If the sate makes the decision that it owns the women's uterus and has the right to dictate when a women can or can't have a baby then we are no better off then china.
Philosophically speaking there is no appreciable difference between forcing a woman to have an abortion or preventing her from having one.
"Last but not least, Fox viewers are also of above-average intellect and critical judgment."
No they are not. Studies have shown that Fox viewers are more misinformed then the viewers of other news channels. They are even more misinformed then the viewers of fake news programs (The daily show).
Oooh bush got 51% Kerry got 48% and Nader got 1%. Wow bush won by two whole percentage points. Bush feels like a real man now I bet.
"Show me documented proof that a prisoner was beaten to death. Thus far, no such evidence has surfaced, so your claim is fabricated as far as I'm concerned."
- 04 -prisoner-deaths_x.htm/ afghanistan/story/0,1284 ,909294,00.html
Aahh a republitard. Totally and completely ignorant and hapy about it. First of all read the armies report. The US army medical examiner has ruled the deaths of multiple afghani prisoners of war as murder. That's right murder. Now I don't expect you'll do your own research but just google. I did a google and these two links were on the first page, there are many more if you are brave enough to look.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-05
http://www.guardian.co.uk
Of course now that I have proven to you that the US military beat prisoners to death you will excuse that too.
"Again, show me proof. Thus far, no such incidents have been publicized. You're the one making the accusations. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. If you don't have it, you're just fabricating things again. You sure you're not Dan Rather?"
Har Har Har. Dan Rather. Har HAr Har. Man I bet that kills with your republitard friends huh. Hed did you see those pictures of prisoners that were crufied on jail doors and metal beds? Har Har HAr that shit is funny. Hey did you see the picture of that prisoner that was handcuffed to a stair railing for three days? Har HAr HAr, that's some funny shit huh?
"Where was your moral outrage when Uday and Qusay were running rape rooms in Baghdad? Where was your anger when Abu Ghraib was being run by Saddam's goons"
Hey I am a liberal. I was protesting the reagan administration when they were supporting saddam. I joined amnesty international and supported them when they published all the sadistic things saddam has done. While Bush Sr and Rumsfeld were giving money and chemicals to Saddam me and my friends were trying to get people to vote against them and supporting their opposition.
"It reminds me why I'm glad I'm nothing like you."
Nothing makes me happier then to know I am not like you. You are sick, sadistic retard. You are one of those people who get better longer lasting erections when you hear about people being killed in your name and tortured. Do you tell your wife or girlfriend you are picturing a prisoner being sodomized with a broomstick when you are fucking her?
If you are comparing the American elections to what went on in afghanistan we are all in much deeper shit then we ever knew.
Zope is pretty far away from being a competitor to J2EE. I really wish it was but it just isn't.
What is lacking? Fine grained trasaction control, object relational layer (some people have data in relational databases), automagic SOAP publishing of objects, cross container communications (RMI at least) etc.
I would love it if zope at least had SOAP support but all they have is XML-RPC.
" Hmm.. what could Zope be ? Lemme guess ?"
I know you are kidding but it's kind of a profound question. "What could zope be?".
It could be web server, it could be a ftp server, it could be a CMS system, it could be an object oriented database. It is and could be all of those things.
What it hasn't been so far is some sort of a J2EE like framework for python. That's what it should be IMHO. If zope took that role on it could be an answer to everybody who does not like java or at least prefers python to java.
Alas nobody seems to be interested in moving it towards that.
You forgot conservation and efficiency.
"Since the French, Germans, Russians, and Brit intelligence agencies were all saying the same thing, I think you ought to include them just to be fair."
Except for the britons none of the others were sure enough to go to war.
"What happened to Daniel Pearl was an attrocity. The killing of hundreds of innocent schoolchildren in Beslan by Muslim terrorists is an attrocity. Wearing panties on your head and being forced to pose nude for photographs is not an attrocity -- except in your morally twisted mind."
How about having a chemical light shoved up your ass? How about being beaten to death? How about having your chest kicked hard enough to break a couple of ribs? How about being strapped to a board and continually dunked in the river? How about being crucified to a jail door for days at a time? How about having shit smeared on you and being harnessed in a crufix pose for days at a time? How about having chunks of meat taken out of your thighs by a german shepard? How about being raped repeatedly by solder after soldier?
Every single one of those was admitted to by the Army? What kind of sick and degenerate moral upbringing do you have that you can excuse this? exactly how sadistic are you?
YOu are able to excuse any act no matter how vile as long as that act was committed by a republican. I feel sorry for everyone around you. You are clearly a deranged being.
Why don't you shove a chemical light up your son's ass and tell him it's just like having panties on his head.
Hey no fair injecting facts into a discussion about the environment. What are you some sort of a liberal elite collage profrofessor or something. We don't need your fancy book learnin around here faggot.
It's OK. He is not going to let the faggots get married. That's the most important thing. Who cares about jobs when your marriage is under assault by activist judges.
Think of it. If they let the faggots marry one of them will take your wife away. I mean how can you be expected to compete with a hot lesbian who will pleasure your wife longer and better then you? The worst thing is that they probably won't even let you watch.
Why is that so hard to understand?
The corporations give money to bush and hippie, commie, faggot, environmentalists don't.
Who do think GW is going to screw?
"In other words, engage in some activism. Help out the EFF, fight software patents in Europe, do whatever it takes to stop this problem at the source: Evil Government..."
Why not do both. Fight the evil govt AND bash evil scum sucking corporations like MS and SCO. Of course it's not like either one cares. They have shown that they can distract the populace easily by pointing at bright shiny objects and homosexuals who want to get married.
As one Afghan poet pointed out after their sham of an election. "It's an occupation by ballot".
What about PPC? I find it amazing that they don't have a stable PPC port. Just insane.
Whatcha talkin bout alphasys!
Also explains George Bush.
America is all about TV and Church. In that order. I suprised the religious majority does not keel over from cognitive dissonance.
Think of it this way. Every million spent on quackery is one less million to spend on bombs. Of course without enough bombs we can't make the people of falujah obey allawi but that's another discussion altogether.