First of all Lomborg is not an authority. He has a PHD in political science. The fact that you would hold him up as an authority in the study of climate change shows exactly how ignorant you are.
Secondly you want people to take your word over the scientists that actually study this. Tell me one reason why I should believe you instead of the scientists.
Actually your premise is wrong. Although every city has a lots of thermometers everywhere the only ones that "count" are the ones from official weather stations. The vast majority of those are either on the airport or on a military base. In both of those circumstances the areas are away from the core of the city.
There are also temprature reading taken from ships at sea.
Finally the entire global warming thesis is not based on JUST air temprature readings. There are also ocean currents, ocean tempratures, CO2 levels, ice core data, rate of melting of glaciers and icebergs, geologic data, and of course tons of theoretical frameworks.
"I haven't been convinced that carbon dioxide is a problem."
That's probably because you haven't really studied the matter and probably don't really understand the studies that have been done. The vast majority of climatologist in the world do agree that CO2 is the problem.
But what the hell they are just idiots and you know so much more then them.
"The question is if stopping all of our CO2 emissions will have the desired effect. It's certainly not helping, but the question is, and always has been, exactly how much is it hurting?"
Geez I don't know, That's a really good question, I wish I knew the answer to that.
Only if there were people we could ask this to. Surely there must be people who have studied these things. People who have studied the theory of how climates change. People who know about the laws of physics and chemistry. People who have done experiments and observations and such.
Well what do you know!. I just did a google search and found out that there are people called "scientists" and amongst them are people called "meteorologists" and "climatologist" who do nothing but study the atmosphere.
So let's ask them what they think. Maybe they can come to some sort of a consensus.
Lets see. YOu don't want to take the word of people who have been studying this all their lives because that's "appeal to authority" and when presented with evidence you throw it away if it triggers your "bullshit buzzer".
I guess you'd know more then a meteorologist or an oceanographer. All they have are decades of education, experience, experiments and observations. You don't need that fancy book learnin' you got a bullshit buzzer!.
We went to war because Saddam had intentions of building weapons of mass destruction. So if he ever somehow got rid of the sanctions and the inspectors he could have built weapons and he might have given them to terrorists (which hated him BTW).
If you are willing to wage war on such flimsy cenjecture why aren't you willing to take the bus once in a while or ride your bike more?
Apparently you need 100% absolute proof before you are willing to lift a finger. Let's see how that works out for you.
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"Really Good Ide. "
Eclipse supports most languages including python, php, perl and ruby.
"API."
Perl, Python, Ruby and PHP have enourmous libraries to make whatever you are attempting easy.
"Consistency. "
The languages I have mentioned have been "pretty consistent". No language is completely static and each language is trying to improve the best way they know how but they have all kept backwards compatibility pretty good.
"Open source. This is not an argument. In fact, for enterprise world, open source sounds much more problematic than any of good old microsoft solutions."
Well this certainly explains why nobody is using mysql, linux, apache, bind, jboss or any other open source project in any enterprise whatsoever. By golly I think you have something here. Which leads me to.
"They are GUARANTEED to receive support, "
Gee only if there was one or two companies who provided support for open source projects. Too bad you can't buy support from companies like IBM, Novell, RedHat, Mysql etc. Wouldn't that be cool if you could buy support for open source projects.
BTW I am happy that MS provides GUARANTEED support. All those people who bitch about the crappy MS support and documents are all probably liars or open source racist hippies who enjoy dirty jokes.
Bush started this war. He has said that god wanted him to do it. If the president is listening to god who is telling him to wage war in iraq then it sounds like a crusade to me.
The fact that the soldiers are not all christians is not really relevant.
I don't know if double jeapordy applies to corporations, I really don't think it does.
Also the sentence MS got was conditional on them being nice, if they haven't been nice it's back to court.
Finally nobody got tried for perjury, evidence tampering or witness tampering (intimidation). All those are crimes and all of them were comitted by employees of MS. There is no reason not to try individuals with crimes.
I think the rapid evolution of KDE has everything to with how great QT is.
If Gnome wants to catch up they probably need to move on to a higher level language then C. I am sure Miguel is pushing for MONO and C# and it will be interesting to see if Gnome might one day run on a VM of some sort another.
First of all it was the grandparent who claimed the war in Iraq was to change Islam not me.
Secondly there is no doubt the president feels he is doing god's work by invading iraq. God told him to do it and he is simply obeying the will of God.
Thirdly I am sure that somewhere withing the bowels of the christian right there are millions of people who feel that the war in Iraq is a part of the upcoming resurrection of christ. The end of days and all that.
Finally> The point of the crusades was for christians to control the holy land not the jews. Europe lost and the hold land is being controlled by the jews. If you remember during that time there was severe persecution of the jews by the christians. Oddly enough the jews escaped to muslim countries where they were not being persecuted.
The only thing we learn from history is that we don't learn from history.
Secondly I don't ever remember the president saying that he wasnted to change Islam. Was that in the party platform? Could you please provide a link to anybody anywhere saying that it's the official US policy to change Islam?
I bet the people who voted for Bush never knew they were voting for a restart of the crusades. Well the last one didn't go so well maybe this time the christians will win. But then again maybe not.
I guess this undercover cop was particularly inept then huh? How the hell did anybody know he was an undercover cop?
BTW what was an uncover cop from switzerland doing in NY during a convention? Was he participiating in the protests? Was he there as an agitator? Was he there as an observer and if so why?
I hope to god somebody follows up on this. I am very curious to know what switzerland is so interested in US political converntions and what role they have played in the protests.
The fact that it hasn't pulled out indicates that it DOES care.
Personally I think the UN should be dismantled. It's main charter was t stop war and it has failed miserably in that. The fact that it can no longer stop strong countries from invading and occupying weak ones just brings the ineptitude of the UN into sharp focus.
Whoever has the guns rule. The UN with worthless if it can't counteract might of nations with lots of guns.
What are you talking about? Go to the apple store on the web and look for yourself. They have macs for every budget. YOu can get one for 800 bucks if you want.
What if Apple and MPAA could not agree. What if MPAA decided on the MS DRM format and MS opened up an online music store. What if MPAA has an exclusive agreement with MS so that MPAA titles were only available to MS. What if MS charged more then Apple did (say $1.50).
What would happen then? Would Apple sell non MPAA titles for a buck and if so would that be enough to drive a business?
First of all the SOAP layer in PHP is pretty weak. The native implementation does not support transporting complex objects so you are limited to simple types only. Secondly even if you are able to reduce everything to strings you are still left with the tedium of populating data on the screen by hand. There is no elegant binding framework so you can transport objects back and forth between the server and the client and automatically fill in on screen components.
Yes I am talking about a gui to do all that. Somthing along the lines of xcode and the cocoa data binding framework.
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First of all Lomborg is not an authority. He has a PHD in political science. The fact that you would hold him up as an authority in the study of climate change shows exactly how ignorant you are.
Secondly you want people to take your word over the scientists that actually study this. Tell me one reason why I should believe you instead of the scientists.
Actually your premise is wrong. Although every city has a lots of thermometers everywhere the only ones that "count" are the ones from official weather stations. The vast majority of those are either on the airport or on a military base. In both of those circumstances the areas are away from the core of the city.
There are also temprature reading taken from ships at sea.
Finally the entire global warming thesis is not based on JUST air temprature readings. There are also ocean currents, ocean tempratures, CO2 levels, ice core data, rate of melting of glaciers and icebergs, geologic data, and of course tons of theoretical frameworks.
"I haven't been convinced that carbon dioxide is a problem."
That's probably because you haven't really studied the matter and probably don't really understand the studies that have been done. The vast majority of climatologist in the world do agree that CO2 is the problem.
But what the hell they are just idiots and you know so much more then them.
"The question is if stopping all of our CO2 emissions will have the desired effect. It's certainly not helping, but the question is, and always has been, exactly how much is it hurting?"
Geez I don't know, That's a really good question, I wish I knew the answer to that.
Only if there were people we could ask this to. Surely there must be people who have studied these things. People who have studied the theory of how climates change. People who know about the laws of physics and chemistry. People who have done experiments and observations and such.
Well what do you know!. I just did a google search and found out that there are people called "scientists" and amongst them are people called "meteorologists" and "climatologist" who do nothing but study the atmosphere.
So let's ask them what they think. Maybe they can come to some sort of a consensus.
Lets see. YOu don't want to take the word of people who have been studying this all their lives because that's "appeal to authority" and when presented with evidence you throw it away if it triggers your "bullshit buzzer".
I guess you'd know more then a meteorologist or an oceanographer. All they have are decades of education, experience, experiments and observations. You don't need that fancy book learnin' you got a bullshit buzzer!.
Let me put it this way.
We went to war because Saddam had intentions of building weapons of mass destruction. So if he ever somehow got rid of the sanctions and the inspectors he could have built weapons and he might have given them to terrorists (which hated him BTW).
If you are willing to wage war on such flimsy cenjecture why aren't you willing to take the bus once in a while or ride your bike more?
Apparently you need 100% absolute proof before you are willing to lift a finger. Let's see how that works out for you.
"Really Good Ide. "
Eclipse supports most languages including python, php, perl and ruby.
"API."
Perl, Python, Ruby and PHP have enourmous libraries to make whatever you are attempting easy.
"Consistency. "
The languages I have mentioned have been "pretty consistent". No language is completely static and each language is trying to improve the best way they know how but they have all kept backwards compatibility pretty good.
"Open source. This is not an argument. In fact, for enterprise world, open source sounds much more problematic than any of good old microsoft solutions."
Well this certainly explains why nobody is using mysql, linux, apache, bind, jboss or any other open source project in any enterprise whatsoever. By golly I think you have something here. Which leads me to.
"They are GUARANTEED to receive support, "
Gee only if there was one or two companies who provided support for open source projects. Too bad you can't buy support from companies like IBM, Novell, RedHat, Mysql etc. Wouldn't that be cool if you could buy support for open source projects.
BTW I am happy that MS provides GUARANTEED support. All those people who bitch about the crappy MS support and documents are all probably liars or open source racist hippies who enjoy dirty jokes.
Bush started this war. He has said that god wanted him to do it. If the president is listening to god who is telling him to wage war in iraq then it sounds like a crusade to me.
The fact that the soldiers are not all christians is not really relevant.
I don't know if double jeapordy applies to corporations, I really don't think it does.
Also the sentence MS got was conditional on them being nice, if they haven't been nice it's back to court.
Finally nobody got tried for perjury, evidence tampering or witness tampering (intimidation). All those are crimes and all of them were comitted by employees of MS. There is no reason not to try individuals with crimes.
Well that and we are not really dependent on foreign ketchup.
ROX and Zeroinstall are way to go if you ask me.
I think the rapid evolution of KDE has everything to with how great QT is.
If Gnome wants to catch up they probably need to move on to a higher level language then C. I am sure Miguel is pushing for MONO and C# and it will be interesting to see if Gnome might one day run on a VM of some sort another.
First of all it was the grandparent who claimed the war in Iraq was to change Islam not me.
Secondly there is no doubt the president feels he is doing god's work by invading iraq. God told him to do it and he is simply obeying the will of God.
Thirdly I am sure that somewhere withing the bowels of the christian right there are millions of people who feel that the war in Iraq is a part of the upcoming resurrection of christ. The end of days and all that.
Finally> The point of the crusades was for christians to control the holy land not the jews. Europe lost and the hold land is being controlled by the jews. If you remember during that time there was severe persecution of the jews by the christians. Oddly enough the jews escaped to muslim countries where they were not being persecuted.
The only thing we learn from history is that we don't learn from history.
Personally I think it was because Indymedia was too vocal about it's critisism of Israeli policies.
That's just me though, I guess we may eventually find out if they are ever able to tell their side of the story.
Iraq was a secular socialist state.
Secondly I don't ever remember the president saying that he wasnted to change Islam. Was that in the party platform? Could you please provide a link to anybody anywhere saying that it's the official US policy to change Islam?
I bet the people who voted for Bush never knew they were voting for a restart of the crusades. Well the last one didn't go so well maybe this time the christians will win. But then again maybe not.
You keep believing that if it makes you sleep better.
"I was unaware that the U.S. had a monopoly on such "scandals.""
Whoo Hoo. We are no better then Russia and China. Damn I feel proud to be an American. All we have to strive for is to be no worse then anybody else.
Maybe not in this case but then again can you blame somebody for presuming that it did?
I don't know if you have been following the news or not but since 9/11 there has been tremendous amount of co-ordination between the FBI and the CIA.
I guess this undercover cop was particularly inept then huh? How the hell did anybody know he was an undercover cop?
BTW what was an uncover cop from switzerland doing in NY during a convention? Was he participiating in the protests? Was he there as an agitator? Was he there as an observer and if so why?
I hope to god somebody follows up on this. I am very curious to know what switzerland is so interested in US political converntions and what role they have played in the protests.
If it doesn't care then it should pull out.
The fact that it hasn't pulled out indicates that it DOES care.
Personally I think the UN should be dismantled. It's main charter was t stop war and it has failed miserably in that. The fact that it can no longer stop strong countries from invading and occupying weak ones just brings the ineptitude of the UN into sharp focus.
Whoever has the guns rule. The UN with worthless if it can't counteract might of nations with lots of guns.
What are you talking about? Go to the apple store on the web and look for yourself. They have macs for every budget. YOu can get one for 800 bucks if you want.
What if Apple and MPAA could not agree.
What if MPAA decided on the MS DRM format and MS opened up an online music store.
What if MPAA has an exclusive agreement with MS so that MPAA titles were only available to MS.
What if MS charged more then Apple did (say $1.50).
What would happen then? Would Apple sell non MPAA titles for a buck and if so would that be enough to drive a business?
No but justy a pain in the ass. Let me explain.
First of all the SOAP layer in PHP is pretty weak. The native implementation does not support transporting complex objects so you are limited to simple types only. Secondly even if you are able to reduce everything to strings you are still left with the tedium of populating data on the screen by hand. There is no elegant binding framework so you can transport objects back and forth between the server and the client and automatically fill in on screen components.
Yes I am talking about a gui to do all that. Somthing along the lines of xcode and the cocoa data binding framework.
Bingo.
The people who made the decision to buy netscape and open up the source code are long gone.
MS is competing with AOL with MSN. Using IE is simply giving bullets to your enemy.