You are not listening to me. Here let me try again.
THERE IS NOTHING OPEN SOURCE THAT WILL REPLACE EXCHANGE AS LONG AS YOU ARE USING OUTLOOK. THE ONLY WAY TO GET TO WHERE YOU WANT IS TO DITCH OUTLOOK.
Your dumbass boss gave you an impossible task. He told you to ditch exchange but you have to keep outlook. He did this because he is a dumbass. You are doomed to failure but you keep on looking anyway so you are a dumbass.
Tell your boss what he wants is not possible. Either that or get fired when you can't deliver what he wants.
You now pay for exchange and outlook: Stike one. You want to replace exchange but not outlook: Strike two. You want to do this so that sometime in the future you can run win32 version of Evolution: Strike three. You live in southern californa: Strike four!.
Nope you guys are still dumfucks.
Here do this instead.
Ditch outlook and use mozilla mail (imap over ssl), use a an ical server or web based calendering for group calendering. When (if) evolution becomes available in windows then switch to that.
Wow Amazing. I was able to install linux and use it in under 2 hours on my machine (suse). I guess I must be a genious!. I never thought I was of above normal intelligence but after seeing how many people could not even install linux and get it working I am now convinced that I am super duper smart.
So what you are saying is the linux is not ready for the corporate desktop if your corporation does graphics processing. Interesting. What if your corporation basically deals with office software and email like 99% of the corporations on this planet? Is it ready for them?
Agreed. Corporations are pschotic individuals who can feel no empathy towards other beings and are unable to control their impulses. It goes without sayings that they are also without souls, conscience, or moals too.
Having said that IBM is betting that this stance is going to make them more money and not less. Let's hope they are right.
By all accounts Bin Laden does indeed speak in extremely intelligent manner and is of above average intelligence. We are just hearing lame english translations (supposedly) of what he says.
That's all you use outlook for IMAP and POP? You are even stupider then I thought if you are paying good money to check your email via IMAP and POP.
My opinion of you, your CEO and your company stands. You are all retards who pay for outlook just to use it for POP and IMAP when outlook exress and a thousand other pieces of software do it for free.
Please, Please, Please tell me the name of your company so I can make sure I don't have stock in it. Your company is dooned to fail with such dumbass leadership.
Honest I am not a shill. I just this corporation more then life. I have pledged allegience to this corporation over all other corporations. I love them more then GM, Proctor and Gamble, Disney, and even Nike. MS is the best corporation in the world and it's my privledge to defend MS against FUD from those dirty hippy commie slashdotters.
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It will happen the day after they get a conscience.
If you can't keep your linux updated then you better stop using it. Clearly you are not capable of running linux. People like you become hazards to the internet when your outdated boxes get owned and start spewing spam, worms and what have you.
Sounds like you are a perfect candidate for a Mac though so I'd suggest that for you.
As for me linux works. I am able to keep it updated without any problems. I am able to do my work with.
I am not the only one either. There are millions of people all over the world who are capable of keeping their linux boxes up to date. You are not one of them. No shame in that. Keep using windows or better yet switch to a mac. I also have a mac laptop that I enjoy quite a bit.
SO if your CEO is willing to pay MS for outlook how come he isn't willing to pay them for exchange? You CEO is one stupid motherfucker if he thinks he can get outlook to play nice with something other then exchange.
You are also a dumbfuck for even trying to find something to replace exchange with when you know perfectly well outlook will need exchange to work properly.
Looks like your company is full of dumshits who have no understanding of technology. What kind of retards look to replace exchange but not outlook? Please tell me name of your company so I can make sure I don't have any stock in a company that is staffed with so many idiots from the CEO on down.
Most employment contracts also dictate where any dispute is to be resolved. Companies usually dictate a jurisdction in which workers have very little if any rights.
The OSS solutions are fine for companies that have a few hundred employees. If you have more then that the oracle collaboration suite is cheaper then exchange and has lots more features. There are software like kerio, communigate and merak which cost thousands of dollars less then exchange and do more or less the same thing.
You'd pretty much have to be an idiot to pay for exchange today.
In that case stick with exchange. No need to do otherwise. You are addicted to the outlook crack so you might as well hang out with the pusher. Keep paying them money and enjoy the rush while you still got cash.
So let me get this straight. You havent installed linux in three years and yet you feel that you are qualified to post an opinion on the state of linux today.
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" Until they start packing better NTFS support"
Mmm. I have an idea. Why don't the people who wrote NTFS help the knoppix team out and get better support. That way the knoppix team won't have to waste hundreds of hours trying make things work.
Yes sure XP so rock solid it never crashes. Windows is good now. honest. It really is. I would not say so unless it was otherwise. Take my word for it. Just ignore your own experience and listen to me. I am not an MS shill. Honest I am not. I am defending a corporation becuase they are poor and defenseless against the horde of slashdotters. Please don't pick on MS. it's just not fair.
In actuality exchange doesn't do much. OUtlook pretty much does all the heavy lifting. The problem is not to replace exhchance it's to replace outlook.
As long as you are sucking on the outlook crack pipe you remain a junkie. Kick the outlook habit first!
I agree. At a minimum they should break each architecture into it's own project. IMHO they should also pare down the package list to core and contrib. Keep the core down to a few thousand packages and then you can use the contrib like a ports collection. In other words you are guaranteed to be stable is you use only core and take your chances if you use contrib.
"The most fundamental thing wrong with the US patent office today is that patent applications are not being properly tested. "
Well that and the fact that it costs 20 grand to get a patent in the first place. Your poor average joe who spent all his money building his widget can't get a patent while your major evil corporation can get three thousand per year.
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You are not listening to me. Here let me try again.
THERE IS NOTHING OPEN SOURCE THAT WILL REPLACE EXCHANGE AS LONG AS YOU ARE USING OUTLOOK. THE ONLY WAY TO GET TO WHERE YOU WANT IS TO DITCH OUTLOOK.
Your dumbass boss gave you an impossible task. He told you to ditch exchange but you have to keep outlook. He did this because he is a dumbass. You are doomed to failure but you keep on looking anyway so you are a dumbass.
Tell your boss what he wants is not possible. Either that or get fired when you can't deliver what he wants.
So let me get this straight.
You now pay for exchange and outlook: Stike one.
You want to replace exchange but not outlook: Strike two.
You want to do this so that sometime in the future you can run win32 version of Evolution: Strike three.
You live in southern californa: Strike four!.
Nope you guys are still dumfucks.
Here do this instead.
Ditch outlook and use mozilla mail (imap over ssl), use a an ical server or web based calendering for group calendering. When (if) evolution becomes available in windows then switch to that.
If you were smart you'd drop outlook first.
Wow Amazing. I was able to install linux and use it in under 2 hours on my machine (suse). I guess I must be a genious!. I never thought I was of above normal intelligence but after seeing how many people could not even install linux and get it working I am now convinced that I am super duper smart.
Whoo Hoo. I rule.
So what you are saying is the linux is not ready for the corporate desktop if your corporation does graphics processing. Interesting. What if your corporation basically deals with office software and email like 99% of the corporations on this planet? Is it ready for them?
Agreed. Corporations are pschotic individuals who can feel no empathy towards other beings and are unable to control their impulses. It goes without sayings that they are also without souls, conscience, or moals too.
Having said that IBM is betting that this stance is going to make them more money and not less. Let's hope they are right.
When you convert the stored procs and triggers.
By all accounts Bin Laden does indeed speak in extremely intelligent manner and is of above average intelligence. We are just hearing lame english translations (supposedly) of what he says.
That's all you use outlook for IMAP and POP? You are even stupider then I thought if you are paying good money to check your email via IMAP and POP.
My opinion of you, your CEO and your company stands. You are all retards who pay for outlook just to use it for POP and IMAP when outlook exress and a thousand other pieces of software do it for free.
Please, Please, Please tell me the name of your company so I can make sure I don't have stock in it. Your company is dooned to fail with such dumbass leadership.
Honest I am not a shill. I just this corporation more then life. I have pledged allegience to this corporation over all other corporations. I love them more then GM, Proctor and Gamble, Disney, and even Nike. MS is the best corporation in the world and it's my privledge to defend MS against FUD from those dirty hippy commie slashdotters.
It will happen the day after they get a conscience.
If you can't keep your linux updated then you better stop using it. Clearly you are not capable of running linux. People like you become hazards to the internet when your outdated boxes get owned and start spewing spam, worms and what have you.
Sounds like you are a perfect candidate for a Mac though so I'd suggest that for you.
As for me linux works. I am able to keep it updated without any problems. I am able to do my work with.
I am not the only one either. There are millions of people all over the world who are capable of keeping their linux boxes up to date. You are not one of them. No shame in that. Keep using windows or better yet switch to a mac. I also have a mac laptop that I enjoy quite a bit.
SO if your CEO is willing to pay MS for outlook how come he isn't willing to pay them for exchange? You CEO is one stupid motherfucker if he thinks he can get outlook to play nice with something other then exchange.
You are also a dumbfuck for even trying to find something to replace exchange with when you know perfectly well outlook will need exchange to work properly.
Looks like your company is full of dumshits who have no understanding of technology. What kind of retards look to replace exchange but not outlook? Please tell me name of your company so I can make sure I don't have any stock in a company that is staffed with so many idiots from the CEO on down.
I bought mine and have been very happy with it. More power then I know what to do with :).
Life is good with a dual G5.
Most employment contracts also dictate where any dispute is to be resolved. Companies usually dictate a jurisdction in which workers have very little if any rights.
Do some complex joins, mass updates and deletes and subqueries too.
The OSS solutions are fine for companies that have a few hundred employees. If you have more then that the oracle collaboration suite is cheaper then exchange and has lots more features. There are software like kerio, communigate and merak which cost thousands of dollars less then exchange and do more or less the same thing.
You'd pretty much have to be an idiot to pay for exchange today.
Oracle collaboration suite. It kicks ass and is cheaper then exchange. You can use it with outlook if you want but you need outlook.
In that case stick with exchange. No need to do otherwise. You are addicted to the outlook crack so you might as well hang out with the pusher. Keep paying them money and enjoy the rush while you still got cash.
So let me get this straight. You havent installed linux in three years and yet you feel that you are qualified to post an opinion on the state of linux today.
" Until they start packing better NTFS support"
Mmm. I have an idea. Why don't the people who wrote NTFS help the knoppix team out and get better support. That way the knoppix team won't have to waste hundreds of hours trying make things work.
Yes sure XP so rock solid it never crashes. Windows is good now. honest. It really is. I would not say so unless it was otherwise. Take my word for it. Just ignore your own experience and listen to me. I am not an MS shill. Honest I am not. I am defending a corporation becuase they are poor and defenseless against the horde of slashdotters. Please don't pick on MS. it's just not fair.
Do a google for Merak, Gordano, communigate pro.
In actuality exchange doesn't do much. OUtlook pretty much does all the heavy lifting. The problem is not to replace exhchance it's to replace outlook.
As long as you are sucking on the outlook crack pipe you remain a junkie. Kick the outlook habit first!
You really need my advice to make up your mind?
I agree. At a minimum they should break each architecture into it's own project. IMHO they should also pare down the package list to core and contrib. Keep the core down to a few thousand packages and then you can use the contrib like a ports collection. In other words you are guaranteed to be stable is you use only core and take your chances if you use contrib.
"The most fundamental thing wrong with the US patent office today is that patent applications are not being properly tested. "
Well that and the fact that it costs 20 grand to get a patent in the first place. Your poor average joe who spent all his money building his widget can't get a patent while your major evil corporation can get three thousand per year.