In montana there is the same problem. Deer and Elk are getting CWD. The state is not too interested in the problem though. They are more worried about brucelosis so they shoot the buffalo that wander out of the park.
The odd thing is that there has never been a documented case of brucellosis being transmitted from buffalo to cows but there is scientific data that shows CWD can be transmitted from elk and deer to cows.
In the end it's more acceptable for the citizens of montana for their govt to shoot buffalo then to shoot the elk. Why I don't know, those people in Montana are kind of weird anyway I guess.
The only reason to oppose nudity or sex is for religious reasons. Civilization is pretty much defined as a movement away from superstition and towards rationality and science. This administration has rejected science in favor of religious fundamentalism everytime it had to make that choice.
Also I don't think you'd find too many people who think that administration has not rolled back more rights then any other in recent history.
" However, have any studies shown that these kids retain a more violent approach to life in general?"
It takes a long time to do a long term study into adulthood. I am sure such studies are going on right now.
It seems to me however there is a perfect study in the culture of America itself. I don't think there is any denying that America is a more violent place today then it was before TV was invented.
Right. Now this administration has slid back the advance of civilization and takes us to more religous fundamentalist time. They also seem hellbent on rolling back civil liberties too.
No code is self modifying. All code needs maintenance. Business rules change, the marketplace changes, the competition does something you didn't expect etc.
If a GreatHacker wrote the original code then the same GreatHacker will derive absolutely ZERO pleasure in modifying his/her old code to work in a slightly different way. GreatHackers thrive on solving new and difficult problems.
So if you hire a GreatHacker good luck getting any productivity out of him/her after the hard and creative work has been done. Unless you have him/her working on something new he/she is likely to go into serious apoplexy once the work gets boring and mundane.
Nobody enforeced those laws before and this administration increased the fines by an order of magnitude. So don't pretend that somehow this administration is no more prudish and other.
Both the president and the attorney general are fundamentalists.
Unfortunately the american psyche got burned with that image of what "being a man" was. Mainly it meant that you killed people and resorted to violence immediately. Is there an episode of any show from the 60s and seventies which did not involve fights and violence? Well maybe but they are pretty rare.
It's remarkable to me how this worwhip of violence and defining your manhood by how many people you hurt and kill permeated our society to such level that we can't seem to go five years without dropping bombs on somebody or another.
Geez can I please visit your planet once in a while. It sounds like a wonderful place.
Tell me something. On your planet of self maintaining, self debugging and self testing code is the code self commenting too? Now that really would be nirvana.
The problem is that the line between arrogant and asshole is pretty fine. If you have a great hacker who is arrogant and hard to get along with then replace him with a mediocre programmer who can work inside a team without dusrupting it.
Sometimes the arrogant assholes spend all their time telling everybody else how much they suck with brings the productivity of the whole team down.
More to the point. Sometimes great hackers make the worst employees. They are hard to get along with, arrogant, and throw tantrums.
The problem is that frequently the job of programming is routine and boring. Maintaining old code, debugging, writing tests etc are all crucial to delivering software but the great hackers can't be bothered with that boring stuff.
If you see a great hacker don't hire them as an employee. Hire them as a consultant so they can come and go. They are useless once an application has been built and the mundane stuff kicks in.
Ooooh. If I knew who that was I'd be really alarmed. I also heard that he lived in the same city as a murderer.
BTW. Although I don't understand the republican facination with washed up actors I do understand their hatred of Hillary and Theresa. They are very threatened by non subservient women. They prefer their stepford Laura Bush women. Those women don't get uppidity. A man should feel like a king in his house and that means the womenfolk should cook, clean and suck on demand.
I think history will look upon the last election as the beiginning of the end of democracy in America.
It seems like we are no longer enamoured of democracy anymore. Over 80% of the people in this country live in a state that always votes for the same party. Over 90% of the people in this country live in a house district that has been specially made so as to always elect one party.
The way I see it only 10-20% of the people in America experience democracy.
What's mind boggling is that the politicians made a law that makes a manual recount illegal. How much bribe money did that take?
BTW there should be TWO tickets, one for the voter and one for the official record. That way the voter can visually confirm his vote got recorded OK and perhaps come back during a recount to verify.
I agree and sadly must point out that this exchange makes abundantly clear how little moral compass or spiritual awareness there is in the US.
A couple of hundred years of capitalism have completely reversed two thousand years of christianity by making greed, gluttony, avarice, covetousness and pride virtues. What the romans could not do Adam Smith did by himself. Turn christianity on it's head. Turn the quest of mankind from reaching their divine destiny to accumulating as much wealth as possible.
The facts are sometimes hard to accept but I will repeat them for you anyway.
A corporation is a soul-less, immortal entity whose sole purpose is to make money. This entity is given full legal rights the same as human beings who have souls. If you believe in the bible and are a christian then by definition corporations are evil because the love of money is the root of all evil.Of course soul-less immortal beings have always been described as evil in pretty much all religions.
"If you think corporations don't value their reputations, you know nothing about the modern corporation"
Corporations don't value their reputations. They only value the bottom line. Look at MS. It has a horrible reputation but as long as it continues to make money it does not care. In fact most corporations know that the more unethical they act the more money they make so they do that.
"You argue that since companies are driven by the profit motive, they are evil and soulless. Nonsense."
DO corporations have souls? Is the love of money the root of all evil?
"There is nothing more human than the profit motive"
The goal of the spiritual life is the transend your human desires and goibles and achieve your divine destiny. All religions, all philosophers, all great wise men in history have advocated that greed is a bad thing and antithetical to spiritual growth.
"You think you're superior to big corporations? Fine, how many people did you hire today?"
If you think that hiring people is somehow the greatest good that a person can achieve then you are fucked beyond belief. Capitalism is based on teh seven deadly sins. Capitalism itself is anti god. Greed, gluttony, pride, avarice, covetousness are all staples of capitalism. Maybe I am full of shit but I don't know of any spiritual leader, religious prophet, or a philospher that said "lets form a society based on greed, envy, gluttony, and pride".
Oh I take that back. There was one guy who advocated all that. His name was Anton LeVay and he founded the church of satan. Maybe you know of others.
There was a rumor going on at WWDC that Bill Gates was in the audience and he didn't look happy. I didn't give this much credence at the time but seing as how MS has recently made an annoucement about RSS agregators and HD-DVD I think the rumor might be true. Expect MS to make announcements about all the features of Tiger also being implemented by MS RealSoonNow (TM).
"It's an article of faith that big corporations are greedy and nasty and the root of all evil. Heretic that I am, I don't buy it."
Corporations are amoral. they are soul-less immortal beings whose purpose is to make money and nothing else. Yes that's greedy. Yes that's nasty. And yes if you believe in the bible and jesus it's the root of all evil.
"Although big corporations have very deep pockets, they also have something called a reputation that they value greatly."
Bullshit. As evidence I point you to Microsoft, MCI/Worldcom, global crossing, tyson, firestone, martha stewart living, proctor and gamble, et al.
"Might I suggest that it's a new breed of company, small or mid-sized ones, whose very raison d'etre is to collect valuable intellectual property, that we have the most to fear from."
Or how about a huge company with a history of acting in the most sleazy and unethical way possible gathering up intellectual property like there is no tommorow. Should we be scared of them too? Or maybe you think Bill gates suddenly found religion and wants to run an ethical company?
Come on now. Bullshit analogies are the worst way to make a point.
"Perhaps I should shut-up and drag myself up the front steps?"
No you should punish the people who built you a ramp out of the goodness of their hearts. These people who could not stand the sight of you struggling to get up the stairs and built you the best ramp they were capable of. You should sue them. They should have used better materials god damn it. How dare they only use the cheapes materials laying around in their garage. they should have paid money for top quality materials. They also should have paid for professional carpenters to come and build the thing. In fact they should have hired an architect to design the ramp too.
Because they did not build you a ramp that you truly deserve for free you should sue them. They deserve to be punished for their negligence and incompetence. No good deed should no unpunished.
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In montana there is the same problem. Deer and Elk are getting CWD. The state is not too interested in the problem though. They are more worried about brucelosis so they shoot the buffalo that wander out of the park.
The odd thing is that there has never been a documented case of brucellosis being transmitted from buffalo to cows but there is scientific data that shows CWD can be transmitted from elk and deer to cows.
In the end it's more acceptable for the citizens of montana for their govt to shoot buffalo then to shoot the elk. Why I don't know, those people in Montana are kind of weird anyway I guess.
The only reason to oppose nudity or sex is for religious reasons. Civilization is pretty much defined as a movement away from superstition and towards rationality and science. This administration has rejected science in favor of religious fundamentalism everytime it had to make that choice.
Also I don't think you'd find too many people who think that administration has not rolled back more rights then any other in recent history.
" However, have any studies shown that these kids retain a more violent approach to life in general?"
It takes a long time to do a long term study into adulthood. I am sure such studies are going on right now.
It seems to me however there is a perfect study in the culture of America itself. I don't think there is any denying that America is a more violent place today then it was before TV was invented.
Right. Now this administration has slid back the advance of civilization and takes us to more religous fundamentalist time. They also seem hellbent on rolling back civil liberties too.
No code is self modifying. All code needs maintenance. Business rules change, the marketplace changes, the competition does something you didn't expect etc.
If a GreatHacker wrote the original code then the same GreatHacker will derive absolutely ZERO pleasure in modifying his/her old code to work in a slightly different way. GreatHackers thrive on solving new and difficult problems.
So if you hire a GreatHacker good luck getting any productivity out of him/her after the hard and creative work has been done. Unless you have him/her working on something new he/she is likely to go into serious apoplexy once the work gets boring and mundane.
Nobody enforeced those laws before and this administration increased the fines by an order of magnitude. So don't pretend that somehow this administration is no more prudish and other.
Both the president and the attorney general are fundamentalists.
It's nice how you ignore the hundreds of studies done that show that kids will indeed react to violence seen on TV by acting out in violent ways.
Sure you didn't shoot anybody yet (I am sure you will eventually) but I bet you have resorted to violence when a non violent response was possible.
Unfortunately the american psyche got burned with that image of what "being a man" was. Mainly it meant that you killed people and resorted to violence immediately. Is there an episode of any show from the 60s and seventies which did not involve fights and violence? Well maybe but they are pretty rare.
It's remarkable to me how this worwhip of violence and defining your manhood by how many people you hurt and kill permeated our society to such level that we can't seem to go five years without dropping bombs on somebody or another.
Geez can I please visit your planet once in a while. It sounds like a wonderful place.
Tell me something. On your planet of self maintaining, self debugging and self testing code is the code self commenting too? Now that really would be nirvana.
The problem is that the line between arrogant and asshole is pretty fine. If you have a great hacker who is arrogant and hard to get along with then replace him with a mediocre programmer who can work inside a team without dusrupting it.
Sometimes the arrogant assholes spend all their time telling everybody else how much they suck with brings the productivity of the whole team down.
More to the point. Sometimes great hackers make the worst employees. They are hard to get along with, arrogant, and throw tantrums.
The problem is that frequently the job of programming is routine and boring. Maintaining old code, debugging, writing tests etc are all crucial to delivering software but the great hackers can't be bothered with that boring stuff.
If you see a great hacker don't hire them as an employee. Hire them as a consultant so they can come and go. They are useless once an application has been built and the mundane stuff kicks in.
"Rudy Boschwitz"
Ooooh. If I knew who that was I'd be really alarmed. I also heard that he lived in the same city as a murderer.
BTW. Although I don't understand the republican facination with washed up actors I do understand their hatred of Hillary and Theresa. They are very threatened by non subservient women. They prefer their stepford Laura Bush women. Those women don't get uppidity. A man should feel like a king in his house and that means the womenfolk should cook, clean and suck on demand.
Personally I favor swapping votes. I don't know how you would do it but....
I must admit the last sentence hit me so hard I opened up my wallet.
More power to wikipedia.
I think history will look upon the last election as the beiginning of the end of democracy in America.
It seems like we are no longer enamoured of democracy anymore. Over 80% of the people in this country live in a state that always votes for the same party. Over 90% of the people in this country live in a house district that has been specially made so as to always elect one party.
The way I see it only 10-20% of the people in America experience democracy.
What's mind boggling is that the politicians made a law that makes a manual recount illegal. How much bribe money did that take?
BTW there should be TWO tickets, one for the voter and one for the official record. That way the voter can visually confirm his vote got recorded OK and perhaps come back during a recount to verify.
Paul Wellstone was the only man with balls enough to vote against the iraq war resolution. He died in airplane crash.
Sonny Bono was a two bit singer and a has been actor who ran into a tree and died.
BTW what is it with you republicans and washed up actors anyway? I mean you guys hate everybody in hollywood and yet keep electing actors.
I agree and sadly must point out that this exchange makes abundantly clear how little moral compass or spiritual awareness there is in the US.
A couple of hundred years of capitalism have completely reversed two thousand years of christianity by making greed, gluttony, avarice, covetousness and pride virtues. What the romans could not do Adam Smith did by himself. Turn christianity on it's head. Turn the quest of mankind from reaching their divine destiny to accumulating as much wealth as possible.
Hold on a minute. Wasn't it Sonny Bono who pushed the copyright extension act? Doesn't it bear his name? Wasn't he a republican.
" You've bought into a modern day myth."
The facts are sometimes hard to accept but I will repeat them for you anyway.
A corporation is a soul-less, immortal entity whose sole purpose is to make money. This entity is given full legal rights the same as human beings who have souls. If you believe in the bible and are a christian then by definition corporations are evil because the love of money is the root of all evil.Of course soul-less immortal beings have always been described as evil in pretty much all religions.
"If you think corporations don't value their reputations, you know nothing about the modern corporation"
Corporations don't value their reputations. They only value the bottom line. Look at MS. It has a horrible reputation but as long as it continues to make money it does not care. In fact most corporations know that the more unethical they act the more money they make so they do that.
"You argue that since companies are driven by the profit motive, they are evil and soulless. Nonsense."
DO corporations have souls? Is the love of money the root of all evil?
"There is nothing more human than the profit motive"
The goal of the spiritual life is the transend your human desires and goibles and achieve your divine destiny. All religions, all philosophers, all great wise men in history have advocated that greed is a bad thing and antithetical to spiritual growth.
"You think you're superior to big corporations? Fine, how many people did you hire today?"
If you think that hiring people is somehow the greatest good that a person can achieve then you are fucked beyond belief. Capitalism is based on teh seven deadly sins. Capitalism itself is anti god. Greed, gluttony, pride, avarice, covetousness are all staples of capitalism. Maybe I am full of shit but I don't know of any spiritual leader, religious prophet, or a philospher that said "lets form a society based on greed, envy, gluttony, and pride".
Oh I take that back. There was one guy who advocated all that. His name was Anton LeVay and he founded the church of satan. Maybe you know of others.
There was a rumor going on at WWDC that Bill Gates was in the audience and he didn't look happy. I didn't give this much credence at the time but seing as how MS has recently made an annoucement about RSS agregators and HD-DVD I think the rumor might be true. Expect MS to make announcements about all the features of Tiger also being implemented by MS RealSoonNow (TM).
LOL. And who will punish them? The DOJ? What a joke.
"It's an article of faith that big corporations are greedy and nasty and the root of all evil. Heretic that I am, I don't buy it."
Corporations are amoral. they are soul-less immortal beings whose purpose is to make money and nothing else. Yes that's greedy. Yes that's nasty. And yes if you believe in the bible and jesus it's the root of all evil.
"Although big corporations have very deep pockets, they also have something called a reputation that they value greatly."
Bullshit. As evidence I point you to Microsoft, MCI/Worldcom, global crossing, tyson, firestone, martha stewart living, proctor and gamble, et al.
"Might I suggest that it's a new breed of company, small or mid-sized ones, whose very raison d'etre is to collect valuable intellectual property, that we have the most to fear from."
Or how about a huge company with a history of acting in the most sleazy and unethical way possible gathering up intellectual property like there is no tommorow. Should we be scared of them too? Or maybe you think Bill gates suddenly found religion and wants to run an ethical company?
MS just recently paid Sun a gob of money for "intellectual property". You can bet your ass sun will use it to attack open source.
Sun the next SCO. Another MS puppet attacking open source.
Come on now. Bullshit analogies are the worst way to make a point.
"Perhaps I should shut-up and drag myself up the front steps?"
No you should punish the people who built you a ramp out of the goodness of their hearts. These people who could not stand the sight of you struggling to get up the stairs and built you the best ramp they were capable of. You should sue them. They should have used better materials god damn it. How dare they only use the cheapes materials laying around in their garage. they should have paid money for top quality materials. They also should have paid for professional carpenters to come and build the thing. In fact they should have hired an architect to design the ramp too.
Because they did not build you a ramp that you truly deserve for free you should sue them. They deserve to be punished for their negligence and incompetence. No good deed should no unpunished.