Are you under some impression that it's not possible to get programs for linux that allow you to share calenders and schedule appointments?
If so you need to disabuse yourself of that notion right now because it's not true. There are numerous open source and commercial softwares that allow you to do that.
"Is Groklaw deleting postings by those who disagree with the prevailing sentiment, or is it not? Is it deleting posts that have critical content or not? If it is, what is the justification?"
Of course she is. She has said so many times. It's her blog and she can delete any posts she wants. I delete posts from my blog all the time. What is damage?
"The typical response to a post that goes against the prevailing sentiment, here or on Groklaw, is a reply that accuses the poster of being a shill, a troll, or an astroturfer. Are you comfortable with a policy that allows criticism to be suppressed merely by ad hominem attacks on the source?"
I am perfectly comfortable with that. It's a big internet, nobody is forcing you to post there. As I said I delete posts from my blog all the time.
Ding ding ding ding. This is exactly what I am talking about. Too many people are not concerned about freedom.
The reason people are living in poverty and destitution all over the world is because they don't have personal freedoms. Opressive governments lead to theft of property and poverty of the masses.
If you don't want to join them then you have to fight for your freedoms here. Grabbing the shiny toy in exchange for a little freedom is going to take down some dark roads my friend.
As for bootlegging think about it this way.
MS lets people all over the world get their operating system for a buck. They could stop it if they want to but they don't. You on the other hand get REAMED when you buy yours. You pay anywhere from fifty to hundred times more then the guy in china or africa does. MS is ripping you off so you can subsidize the chinese guy. How does that make you feel?
Look there will always be thieves. There are thieves in the US, there are thieves in china. So what?
Wow it's interesting to see the yahoo board PJ bashers are now trolling here. If you want to see a bunch of losers complaining about PJ hang out at the yahoo SCOX bulletin board. They also used hang out at ipwars, I don't know if that site is still around but they were sued by Merkey and folded like a house of cards despite all the chest beating and braying about freedom and well "ip wars".
Freedom to code, read, to own the things you paid for, and to transmit information from one person to another and from one generation to another are just as important if not more important then poverty and war.
The fact that you and millions of others don't realize the importance of these freedoms for us and more importantly for future generations tells me that we are not doing enough "converting".
You completely missed my point. I set up a zabbix server. I define the host on it. I define my own counters. Zabbix keeps track of them for me. None of that requires programming.
For example if I have a host and I am running mysql on it I can send the output of "mysql -V" to zabbix and program it alert me if the version changes on any of my hosts.
The "send to zabbix" part can be done via a binary or by opening up a socket and sending a string (basically three lines of ruby).
This means you can keep track of all aspects of all your servers all around the world on a single machine. Since each server can "push" the data to the central zabbix server they can be behind firewalls too. As an option you can run agents on each machine which can receive requests from the central server. These agents can also periodically send any performance information to the server too. If the agents are running in windows then you can even send performance monitor items.
"Bull. You obviously haven't used windows since 95.."
If you read my post you would realize that I use it every day at work. Windows XP desktop, windows 2003 server along with all the usual MS stack of office, sharepoint (now there is an abomination if I ever saw one), SQL server etc.
"What a lovely generalisation you've made there. Would you like to explain this comment to someone who's used god knows how many Linux distros and FreeBSD, but has chosen Windows because he can't be fucked to go fixing it every few days?"
I have had to fix my windows about 50 times more then I have had to fix my linux but that's beside the point. Have you used a mac? Have you owned a mac and used it and then decided that windows was better?
"IMHO, the kernel developers would do well to realize that their antics are hurting themselves far more than they are hurting any hardware company that refuses to release GPL drivers."
Hurting themselves? Did I miss the news? Is the adoption of Linux slowing down or reversing itself? What do you mean hurting themselves? Last I checked linux was growing like gangbusters.
"Whoever agrees with this does not have the right to whine that X or Y company does not provides drivers and support for Linux. It is a design flaw IMNSHO."
It's not those peple who are whining. The people who are whining are the ones that never lift a finger to do anything. You know the people who want a free version of photoshop, autocad, quickbooks or whatever. Those people won't ever stop whining anyway though. They just want free copies of the software they stole on windows. They don't care about anything else.
"While the rest of us use Ubuntu to get work done"
I hear this a lot but it goes against all my experience. Usually the people I met who compile their kernels and do other geeky things tend to get way more work done then the people who want everything dropped on their laps.
Am I hanging out with a different crowd then you? The people I meet who use computers while not understanding anything about them tend to be some of the least productive people in any business. It's always the savvy guy/girl who can use the tool properly that gets all the work done.
By the way, that applies just as much to windows as linux. In any office you always have three or four people who really know how to use a computer and can use excel and access to get things done while everybody else just putters along.
Who gave you the idea that people who compile their kernels don't work as hard as you do and are unable to get as much work done as you do?
Isn't it funny how iowa a small and backward state dictates national policy? Can't touch corn, can't touch ethanol, can't touch farm subsidies, but hey lets dogpile on fags, the people on iowa don't like them either.
The problem is that free trade leads to boom and bust cyles in the third world as corporations jump from country to country chasing the lowest wage. This leads to a boom cycle where the wages go up from 10 cents per day to 25 cents per day and then a bust as the factory moves to an even poorer country.
It sounds like you need a mac. WIndows never "just works". You pretty much have to rebuild it every six months too.
I have a mac, and I have a linux box, I am forced to use windows at work. FOr me mac vs linux is 50/50 for some things I prefer linux, for other I prefer the mac. I would never in a thousand years buy windows or use it for personal use. It's just too much hassle and work. Every day it does something to annoy the crap out of me.
It's been my experience that people who like windows just don't know any better. It's like people who like outlook. They only like it because they have never used anything else and don't realize how much a bloated mess of a pig it is.
What it doesn't do is to is to write your own monitors, monitory remote systems by pinging, attempting to connect to ports, let you make custom screens with history, etc.
Zabbix does all that and more and even lets you create your own counters and submit them via a REST interface.
I think people have got this all wrong. The goal is not to prevent you from watching something, it's to force you to watch something. Just like the DVDs you can't forward through. This is designed so that people can pop up ads and you won't be able to get rid of them. You will be forced to watch ads when you are using office because office will be given away for free. You will be forced to watch adds when you use windows or IE.
When the hardware manufacturers disallow open source software from running on their bioses you too will have to watch ads like every other shmuck.
Enjoy your ad free browsing (thank you firefox) while you can.
It will be impossible not to buy vista because it will be shoved down everybodies throats. once you are using vista if half or it doesn't work because your monitor is not compliant then you will get a new monitor.
These guys may be evil but they are not stupid. If you think they are going to leave you with a choice not to use their stuff you have another thing coming.
MS already forked java twice. One is called j++ the other C#. Many people argue that C# is a better fork of java then java itself and if you look at how Sun has rushed to adopt many of the changes in c# they too seem to agree.
I don't think MS cares about java anymore. It was a threat to them at one time, they took care ot it, it's not a threat to them anymore. If anything C# is a threat to java.
Unless you are ready to deny that they are human beings you still can't legally hold them without charges or trials and you certainly can't torture them.
The universal declaration of human rights covers all humans beings no matter what acts they may have comitted or how the president of the united states refers to them.
The only defense Bush has left is to redefine torture, which he as done.
"article 5 of GC iii decalres that if the status of an individual is in question (i.e. not a lawful enemy combatant and not a civilian), then they are to be treated with accord to the geneva convention until a competent tribunal declares their status."
Right. In this case no such tribunal has taken place for most of them. They have been held and tortured for years now without a tribunal. For those that have been afforded a tribunal (lets face it it's a kangaroo court held by the torturers themsevles) there has been no change in status. They are still not classified as a pow or a civillian.
"Innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply to POWs. If they are captured while shooting at American soldiers in an occupied country, then they are prisoners of war."
What if you were not shooting at americans? What if you were a barber or a taxi driver or a baker?
Having said that I am all for treating these people as prisoners of war. That would improve their lot greatly.
"Good lord, aside from the drug-injection allegation, some of the things you listed are positively cozy compared to special forces training."
I hope you are not telling me it's OK for the army to abduct me and force me to go through the special forces training.
"Not just in the U.S. but in many nations. The problem is that everyone has their own definition of torture."
Sure. The UN has defined torture in one way, the US laws have defined torture one way, this administration has defined torture another way. It's gotten to the stage where nobody can accuse anybody of torture anymore. If accused you simply re-define torture and claim you are fine.
"I'd really like to see a link where the U.S. military said they were injecting Guantanamo Bay inmates with drugs for any purpose other than medical attention."
The intelligence agencies have lots of drugs they inject people in order to get them to tell the truth. Many of these are opiates or hallucinegens of some sort. They are top secret though so outside of the military I don't think anybody has done analysis on them.
". If they are the latter, ok they may not have Constitutional rights that an American would have"
I agree with your there. I also would add that they are human beings and should be treated as human beings and according the universal declaration of human rights as defined by the UN. No matter how vile they are still humans and are thus endowed by their creator with certain inailable rights.
"I don't believe there to be any hard evidence that prisoners are mistreated at Guantanamo;"
I don't know what you mean by "hard" evidence but we know for sure people have been waterboarded there and that's classified as torture. People have also been subjected to food and sleep deprivation, extremes of temprature, and being strapped in uncomfortable positions for extended periods in specially built devices. Finally people have been injected with various drugs.
Those have all been admitted to by the military itself. Not just allegations by prisoners. The military feels like those actions are not torture. But they again the military also feels like these human beings do not deserve all the rights specified under the UN human rights charter or the geneva conventions.
"the greatest complaint is that they are tried before a military tribunal instead of a civilian one (could be wrong, I hardly follow the issue)."
No the greatest complaint is that people have been severly tortured for extended periods of time. Those complaints are from people who were eventually let go. Perhaps you should follow the issue more closely. It's your country after all and you are somewhat responsible for what it does.
Having said that who know what's going there? It's not like any of us are allowed visits and even the red cross has to ask permission and schedule a visit. Nobody is stupid enough to torture people in front of visiting congressmen and red cross. They probably clean up for those visits.
Finally when the red cross asked to interview prisoners privately they were refused. The military would not allow it. Take that for what it's worth. I remember Saddam didn't want his scientists interviewed privately by the weapons inspectors before the war too.
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Are you under some impression that it's not possible to get programs for linux that allow you to share calenders and schedule appointments?
If so you need to disabuse yourself of that notion right now because it's not true. There are numerous open source and commercial softwares that allow you to do that.
"Is Groklaw deleting postings by those who disagree with the prevailing sentiment, or is it not? Is it deleting posts that have critical content or not? If it is, what is the justification?"
Of course she is. She has said so many times. It's her blog and she can delete any posts she wants. I delete posts from my blog all the time. What is damage?
"The typical response to a post that goes against the prevailing sentiment, here or on Groklaw, is a reply that accuses the poster of being a shill, a troll, or an astroturfer. Are you comfortable with a policy that allows criticism to be suppressed merely by ad hominem attacks on the source?"
I am perfectly comfortable with that. It's a big internet, nobody is forcing you to post there. As I said I delete posts from my blog all the time.
Ding ding ding ding. This is exactly what I am talking about. Too many people are not concerned about freedom.
The reason people are living in poverty and destitution all over the world is because they don't have personal freedoms. Opressive governments lead to theft of property and poverty of the masses.
If you don't want to join them then you have to fight for your freedoms here. Grabbing the shiny toy in exchange for a little freedom is going to take down some dark roads my friend.
As for bootlegging think about it this way.
MS lets people all over the world get their operating system for a buck. They could stop it if they want to but they don't. You on the other hand get REAMED when you buy yours. You pay anywhere from fifty to hundred times more then the guy in china or africa does. MS is ripping you off so you can subsidize the chinese guy. How does that make you feel?
Look there will always be thieves. There are thieves in the US, there are thieves in china. So what?
Wow it's interesting to see the yahoo board PJ bashers are now trolling here. If you want to see a bunch of losers complaining about PJ hang out at the yahoo SCOX bulletin board. They also used hang out at ipwars, I don't know if that site is still around but they were sued by Merkey and folded like a house of cards despite all the chest beating and braying about freedom and well "ip wars".
Freedom to code, read, to own the things you paid for, and to transmit information from one person to another and from one generation to another are just as important if not more important then poverty and war.
The fact that you and millions of others don't realize the importance of these freedoms for us and more importantly for future generations tells me that we are not doing enough "converting".
You completely missed my point. I set up a zabbix server. I define the host on it. I define my own counters. Zabbix keeps track of them for me. None of that requires programming.
For example if I have a host and I am running mysql on it I can send the output of "mysql -V" to zabbix and program it alert me if the version changes on any of my hosts.
The "send to zabbix" part can be done via a binary or by opening up a socket and sending a string (basically three lines of ruby).
This means you can keep track of all aspects of all your servers all around the world on a single machine. Since each server can "push" the data to the central zabbix server they can be behind firewalls too. As an option you can run agents on each machine which can receive requests from the central server. These agents can also periodically send any performance information to the server too. If the agents are running in windows then you can even send performance monitor items.
Oh and it can also take SNMP traffic too.
All that for free, you gotta love it.
"Bull. You obviously haven't used windows since 95.."
If you read my post you would realize that I use it every day at work. Windows XP desktop, windows 2003 server along with all the usual MS stack of office, sharepoint (now there is an abomination if I ever saw one), SQL server etc.
"What a lovely generalisation you've made there. Would you like to explain this comment to someone who's used god knows how many Linux distros and FreeBSD, but has chosen Windows because he can't be fucked to go fixing it every few days?"
I have had to fix my windows about 50 times more then I have had to fix my linux but that's beside the point. Have you used a mac? Have you owned a mac and used it and then decided that windows was better?
"IMHO, the kernel developers would do well to realize that their antics are hurting themselves far more than they are hurting any hardware company that refuses to release GPL drivers."
Hurting themselves? Did I miss the news? Is the adoption of Linux slowing down or reversing itself? What do you mean hurting themselves? Last I checked linux was growing like gangbusters.
"Whoever agrees with this does not have the right to whine that X or Y company does not provides drivers and support for Linux. It is a design flaw IMNSHO."
It's not those peple who are whining. The people who are whining are the ones that never lift a finger to do anything. You know the people who want a free version of photoshop, autocad, quickbooks or whatever. Those people won't ever stop whining anyway though. They just want free copies of the software they stole on windows. They don't care about anything else.
"While the rest of us use Ubuntu to get work done"
I hear this a lot but it goes against all my experience. Usually the people I met who compile their kernels and do other geeky things tend to get way more work done then the people who want everything dropped on their laps.
Am I hanging out with a different crowd then you? The people I meet who use computers while not understanding anything about them tend to be some of the least productive people in any business. It's always the savvy guy/girl who can use the tool properly that gets all the work done.
By the way, that applies just as much to windows as linux. In any office you always have three or four people who really know how to use a computer and can use excel and access to get things done while everybody else just putters along.
Who gave you the idea that people who compile their kernels don't work as hard as you do and are unable to get as much work done as you do?
Isn't it funny how iowa a small and backward state dictates national policy? Can't touch corn, can't touch ethanol, can't touch farm subsidies, but hey lets dogpile on fags, the people on iowa don't like them either.
The problem is that free trade leads to boom and bust cyles in the third world as corporations jump from country to country chasing the lowest wage. This leads to a boom cycle where the wages go up from 10 cents per day to 25 cents per day and then a bust as the factory moves to an even poorer country.
It sounds like you need a mac. WIndows never "just works". You pretty much have to rebuild it every six months too.
I have a mac, and I have a linux box, I am forced to use windows at work. FOr me mac vs linux is 50/50 for some things I prefer linux, for other I prefer the mac. I would never in a thousand years buy windows or use it for personal use. It's just too much hassle and work. Every day it does something to annoy the crap out of me.
It's been my experience that people who like windows just don't know any better. It's like people who like outlook. They only like it because they have never used anything else and don't realize how much a bloated mess of a pig it is.
Mandriva doesn't have something like synaptic or YAST? How odd.
Damn those mean OSS zealots. I wish they would all die so I can go back to paying for crappy software again.
What it doesn't do is to is to write your own monitors, monitory remote systems by pinging, attempting to connect to ports, let you make custom screens with history, etc.
Zabbix does all that and more and even lets you create your own counters and submit them via a REST interface.
I think people have got this all wrong. The goal is not to prevent you from watching something, it's to force you to watch something. Just like the DVDs you can't forward through. This is designed so that people can pop up ads and you won't be able to get rid of them. You will be forced to watch ads when you are using office because office will be given away for free. You will be forced to watch adds when you use windows or IE.
When the hardware manufacturers disallow open source software from running on their bioses you too will have to watch ads like every other shmuck.
Enjoy your ad free browsing (thank you firefox) while you can.
It will be impossible not to buy vista because it will be shoved down everybodies throats. once you are using vista if half or it doesn't work because your monitor is not compliant then you will get a new monitor.
These guys may be evil but they are not stupid. If you think they are going to leave you with a choice not to use their stuff you have another thing coming.
MS already forked java twice. One is called j++ the other C#. Many people argue that C# is a better fork of java then java itself and if you look at how Sun has rushed to adopt many of the changes in c# they too seem to agree.
I don't think MS cares about java anymore. It was a threat to them at one time, they took care ot it, it's not a threat to them anymore. If anything C# is a threat to java.
Unless you are ready to deny that they are human beings you still can't legally hold them without charges or trials and you certainly can't torture them.
The universal declaration of human rights covers all humans beings no matter what acts they may have comitted or how the president of the united states refers to them.
The only defense Bush has left is to redefine torture, which he as done.
"article 5 of GC iii decalres that if the status of an individual is in question (i.e. not a lawful enemy combatant and not a civilian), then they are to be treated with accord to the geneva convention until a competent tribunal declares their status."
Right. In this case no such tribunal has taken place for most of them. They have been held and tortured for years now without a tribunal. For those that have been afforded a tribunal (lets face it it's a kangaroo court held by the torturers themsevles) there has been no change in status. They are still not classified as a pow or a civillian.
How do you know they are terrorists? Because the president says so?
Also there have been many people released from guantanamo after two years of being there. Is the US releasing terrorists into afghanistan?
"Innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply to POWs. If they are captured while shooting at American soldiers in an occupied country, then they are prisoners of war."
What if you were not shooting at americans? What if you were a barber or a taxi driver or a baker?
Having said that I am all for treating these people as prisoners of war. That would improve their lot greatly.
"Good lord, aside from the drug-injection allegation, some of the things you listed are positively cozy compared to special forces training."
I hope you are not telling me it's OK for the army to abduct me and force me to go through the special forces training.
"Not just in the U.S. but in many nations. The problem is that everyone has their own definition of torture."
Sure. The UN has defined torture in one way, the US laws have defined torture one way, this administration has defined torture another way. It's gotten to the stage where nobody can accuse anybody of torture anymore. If accused you simply re-define torture and claim you are fine.
"I'd really like to see a link where the U.S. military said they were injecting Guantanamo Bay inmates with drugs for any purpose other than medical attention."
The intelligence agencies have lots of drugs they inject people in order to get them to tell the truth. Many of these are opiates or hallucinegens of some sort. They are top secret though so outside of the military I don't think anybody has done analysis on them.
". If they are the latter, ok they may not have Constitutional rights that an American would have"
I agree with your there. I also would add that they are human beings and should be treated as human beings and according the universal declaration of human rights as defined by the UN. No matter how vile they are still humans and are thus endowed by their creator with certain inailable rights.
"I don't believe there to be any hard evidence that prisoners are mistreated at Guantanamo;"
I don't know what you mean by "hard" evidence but we know for sure people have been waterboarded there and that's classified as torture. People have also been subjected to food and sleep deprivation, extremes of temprature, and being strapped in uncomfortable positions for extended periods in specially built devices. Finally people have been injected with various drugs.
Those have all been admitted to by the military itself. Not just allegations by prisoners. The military feels like those actions are not torture. But they again the military also feels like these human beings do not deserve all the rights specified under the UN human rights charter or the geneva conventions.
"the greatest complaint is that they are tried before a military tribunal instead of a civilian one (could be wrong, I hardly follow the issue)."
No the greatest complaint is that people have been severly tortured for extended periods of time. Those complaints are from people who were eventually let go. Perhaps you should follow the issue more closely. It's your country after all and you are somewhat responsible for what it does.
Having said that who know what's going there? It's not like any of us are allowed visits and even the red cross has to ask permission and schedule a visit. Nobody is stupid enough to torture people in front of visiting congressmen and red cross. They probably clean up for those visits.
Finally when the red cross asked to interview prisoners privately they were refused. The military would not allow it. Take that for what it's worth. I remember Saddam didn't want his scientists interviewed privately by the weapons inspectors before the war too.