Nusphere has a MSQL backend called genesis. It's highly transactional and highly scalable. They have run tests on it and they were able to take advantage of 16 processors on it. MYSQL sued them a while back for GPL violation and won. They still sell a branded mysql server because they got a license from MYSQL.
So all mysql has to do is to buy that company or license their engine and voila, done deal.
Just last week a fiery imam in the UK was sentenced to seven years in jail. All of his crimes consisted of speech and nothing else. He gave speeches, he gave sermons, he wrote books, he published videtapes. He never acted, he only spoke.
Free speech isn't all that it's cracked up to be anymore.
"However, now that Oracle actually has bought Sleepycat and Innobase, why do you think they've done that, if not to hurt MySQL? "
Because it doesn't hurt mysql, it hasn't hurt mysql, and it won't hurt mysql because mysql also has maxdb AND it can continue to use the innodb and berkley engines because they are open source.
Where do you get the idea that mysql will not be able to use those engines?
What would killing mysql accomplish when ther are a plethora of great open source databases that are fully transactional, full featured and proven in some of the largest companies in the world?
So are they going to buy postgres, firebird, maxdb and ingress too? If they wanted to attack the transactional database open source projects you'd think they would pick at mysql last.
In order for the GPL to kick in two things have to happen.
1) You have to modify the code. 2) You have to distribute the code.
How many corporations have interest in modifying the code of berkleydb or innodb? Unless you make databases for a living I don't see why any corporation would even want to look at the code.
"Fine, but why do we continue to trade with them? "
because if we trade with them then they will be more likely to embrace democracy. Unless of course you are iraq, iran, syria, cuba or anyplace else that does not have lots of people or money.
The judge gets paid no matter what, the laywers get paid if the trial goes forward. The legal system is working as it is supposed to. It keeps the legal profession in porches and BMWs.
Aaaah good old incompetent Sun and it's stupid management. Only if they had any foresight, will, and brains we would not all be hyping AJAX all to hell and be perfectly happy using applets and java web start. We would forever be saved from trying to shoehorn applications into a stateless publishing technology.
Too bad they could not figure out how to make AWT look nice, how to get swing into every desktop, how to make multipe applications run in the same VM, how to make it easy to build swing apps, how to make gui threading managable by humans, how to not make java web start be the butt ugliest thing in the face of the planet.
Instead we are forever doomed to try and build applications in XML and javascript quite possibly the worst combination of tools to build a applications ever invented by mankind.
Thanks Sun, I blame you, you could have saved us from all this madness but you just couldn't capitalize on the golden goose sitting in your barn.
"Absolute skepticism is arrogance, or at least an utter lack of trust in the experiences and knowledge of others."
Actually how can you be so sure of your experiences. How many times has this happened to you?
You hear something, you say to your friend "did you hear that?". He says "hear what?". You say "oh it must be nothing". So who is right? You or your friend. How many times have you thought you saw something by the second time you looked it was gone? Was it there in the first place?
Something even more troubling.
How many of your memories are accurate? How many of them are more like how you wished things were? How many of them are blurred via associations of other things going on around you at the time?
Was that girl friend in high shcool really that hot? Was that fish you caught really that big? Was that sea during your summer vacation really that blue and clear? Was it?
I get it, you hate activists but where does the reaching for the gun part mean if it doesn't mean that you want to murder people.
Actually a better question might be. What to do envision feeling when you have gunned down an activist? Do you imagine yourself with a hard on looking down the body of the fresh kill? Do you envision your freeper friends cheering you on? Do you envision getting a blowjob when you get home and tell your partner of your conquest?
I am honestly curious as to how a mind like yours works.
It's your govt, not mine. In a democracy we are all at least paritally responsible for our countries actions. This very sad and depressing fact is bought to you by an American who like you has to deal with the fact that my government is conducting vile and shameful acts in my name.
I think there is something wrong with you. I think there is something wrong with anybody who advocates murdering people especially if the reason for the murder is the fact they simply disagree with you.
You want to murder activists. OK. But what do you hope to gain by advertising that fact? Do you think it makes you cool or something? Do you run around in some sort of a weird freeper crowd that fantasicises it could murder all activists or other people that they deem unworthy?
Seriously, there is something wrong with you. You need to get help. There is no rational or sane reason for advocating the murder of people in your signature. It's supposed to be a place for a pithy or a humerous sentence. There is nothing humerous about telling the world you want to kill people.
Are you sure religion is on the decline. In Europoe sure but in America and the middle east no. In both of those place religion is actually increasing.
Last I heard over 70% of americans went to church and over 95% believed in god. I am sure those numbers are better then saudi arabia.
Bingo. As a middle manager the only way you can move up is to be responsible for more and more money. As a middle manager it never pays to save money, in fact it can hurt your career. They quickly get in the habit of buying the most expensive solution possible and when it doesn't work they blame the consultants they paid 500 dollars an hour for and fire five people. If they listened to the grunts on the ground they would have saved a ton of money and it would have acutually worked.
It probably gets the CIO a bonus. That's the way these things work in corporations. It has nothing to do with whether it's effective or not. It benefits the ruling class and you have no need to know why or how. Do it or hit the road.
"OK, so for the record, Judaism is the religion. Jews/Jewish people are its adherents, but there's this middle eastern tribal thing going on too, so even if you're not observant of the laws if your mother is Jewish you are too. It's got nothing to do with your last point of indicating citizenship in a country."
It's not just a middle eastern tribal thing is it though? There are many jews in ISrael who have immigrated to israel. There are also lots of American jews there too. These people believe wholeheartedly that they are given this plot of land by god to occupy despite the fact that they have never been there and none of their ancestors have ever been there.
As I said it gets very confusing. If you are jew because your mother was a jew then jew is a race. If you are jew because you adopted judeaism then jew is a religion. If you are jew because you live in israel then jew is a nationality.
"Slightly confused about this claim. Anti-semitism is a 19th century term to designate prejudicial Jew hating."
Semites are a race. Jews by and large are not semites. Palestenians by and large are semites. If the term "anti-semites" means "anti-jew" then it's being misused.
"Arabs are Semites, people write prejudicial things about Arabs, therefore Arabs are victims of Antisemitism."
But this is a more accurate statement. I don't think the word anti-semite should apply to jews. In fact unless "jew" means a race (still up in the air) then there is no such thing as racism against the jews. Being anti-jew in that case is more or less the same as being anti-catholic or anti-mexican (anti religion or anti nationality). I always encourage people to use precise terminology so as to avoid confusion the issues any further.
"I completely disagree with your assumption here. Israel is indeed a melting pot of Jews from all over the world as well as Druze, Circassian Muslims, Arabs and others. Do all these communities mix and marry each other? No. Do they enjoy equal rights? They're supposed to."
Didn't you say that israel had to be a "homogenious country"? What does that mean? Furthermore what does it mean for israel to be a "jewish state"? Clearly muslims live there does that mean it's not a jewish state? If the muslims were a majority would it still be a jewish state? Furthermore isn't the idea of a "jewish state" inherently anti-democratic much like a "christian state" or a "muslim state" would be.
"ith it, it started with security concerns and was hijacked by some ethnic supremecists who are in bed with the army and real estate developers. Of course, rockets from Gaza don't help promote the message that unilateral withdrawal is a good thing or that the Palestinians are like South Africans."
As I said there can be no moral equavalance between people killing in order to gain their freedom and people killing in order to subjugate people. I remember there was a movie a while back called "uprising" about the jews fighting off the nazis in poland or something. The jewish heroes were using makeshift molotov cocktails, and snipers to kill the jews in order to secure their freedom. Even though they were both killing there can be no moral equavalance between the nazis killing in order to subjugate the jews and the jews killing in order to shake off their opressors. Same thing.
"What's interesting is that occupying 3.5 million people isn't something that most Israeli's care about, it's something happening over the hills and they don't wish to really get involved with the loonies."
I find that very sad. How does that saying go? "All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing". If those people actually spoke out or voted their conscience then perhaps we would be living in a different world.
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Nusphere has a MSQL backend called genesis. It's highly transactional and highly scalable. They have run tests on it and they were able to take advantage of 16 processors on it. MYSQL sued them a while back for GPL violation and won. They still sell a branded mysql server because they got a license from MYSQL.
So all mysql has to do is to buy that company or license their engine and voila, done deal.
Just last week a fiery imam in the UK was sentenced to seven years in jail. All of his crimes consisted of speech and nothing else. He gave speeches, he gave sermons, he wrote books, he published videtapes. He never acted, he only spoke.
Free speech isn't all that it's cracked up to be anymore.
"However, now that Oracle actually has bought Sleepycat and Innobase, why do you think they've done that, if not to hurt MySQL? "
Because it doesn't hurt mysql, it hasn't hurt mysql, and it won't hurt mysql because mysql also has maxdb AND it can continue to use the innodb and berkley engines because they are open source.
Where do you get the idea that mysql will not be able to use those engines?
May? Do you have any documentation on this or are you purely speaking out of your ass?
mysql already has maxdb (formerly known as sapdb). It's a fully transactional database with all the bells and whistles.
I don't see what they have to worry about.
Wouldn't oracle mode firebird or maxdb or ingres be a bigger threat to oracle them mysql?
What would killing mysql accomplish when ther are a plethora of great open source databases that are fully transactional, full featured and proven in some of the largest companies in the world?
No, are you sure any software you use isn't covered by patents owned by oracle? No. You can never be sure.
The great thing though is that you could be sued for simply using a product that violates a patent. Isn't america great!.
So are they going to buy postgres, firebird, maxdb and ingress too? If they wanted to attack the transactional database open source projects you'd think they would pick at mysql last.
In order for the GPL to kick in two things have to happen.
1) You have to modify the code.
2) You have to distribute the code.
How many corporations have interest in modifying the code of berkleydb or innodb? Unless you make databases for a living I don't see why any corporation would even want to look at the code.
"Fine, but why do we continue to trade with them? "
because if we trade with them then they will be more likely to embrace democracy. Unless of course you are iraq, iran, syria, cuba or anyplace else that does not have lots of people or money.
See how simple that is?
The judge gets paid no matter what, the laywers get paid if the trial goes forward. The legal system is working as it is supposed to. It keeps the legal profession in porches and BMWs.
Google stopped working when windows stopped working.
Something to think about who wears the pants in that relationship.
Aaaah good old incompetent Sun and it's stupid management. Only if they had any foresight, will, and brains we would not all be hyping AJAX all to hell and be perfectly happy using applets and java web start. We would forever be saved from trying to shoehorn applications into a stateless publishing technology.
Too bad they could not figure out how to make AWT look nice, how to get swing into every desktop, how to make multipe applications run in the same VM, how to make it easy to build swing apps, how to make gui threading managable by humans, how to not make java web start be the butt ugliest thing in the face of the planet.
Instead we are forever doomed to try and build applications in XML and javascript quite possibly the worst combination of tools to build a applications ever invented by mankind.
Thanks Sun, I blame you, you could have saved us from all this madness but you just couldn't capitalize on the golden goose sitting in your barn.
At least I don't have psycho sexual fantasies of murder.
You need help dude, seriously.
"Absolute skepticism is arrogance, or at least an utter lack of trust in the experiences and knowledge of others."
Actually how can you be so sure of your experiences. How many times has this happened to you?
You hear something, you say to your friend "did you hear that?". He says "hear what?". You say "oh it must be nothing". So who is right? You or your friend. How many times have you thought you saw something by the second time you looked it was gone? Was it there in the first place?
Something even more troubling.
How many of your memories are accurate? How many of them are more like how you wished things were? How many of them are blurred via associations of other things going on around you at the time?
Was that girl friend in high shcool really that hot? Was that fish you caught really that big? Was that sea during your summer vacation really that blue and clear? Was it?
"Wow. It must be literalists day on slashdot."
So explain it to me figuritively.
I get it, you hate activists but where does the reaching for the gun part mean if it doesn't mean that you want to murder people.
Actually a better question might be. What to do envision feeling when you have gunned down an activist? Do you imagine yourself with a hard on looking down the body of the fresh kill? Do you envision your freeper friends cheering you on? Do you envision getting a blowjob when you get home and tell your partner of your conquest?
I am honestly curious as to how a mind like yours works.
It's a play on words. Kill Bill, Kill Joe. Killjoe is also a play on the word killjoy.
It looks like it flew over your head though.
It's your govt, not mine. In a democracy we are all at least paritally responsible for our countries actions. This very sad and depressing fact is bought to you by an American who like you has to deal with the fact that my government is conducting vile and shameful acts in my name.
Whatever happened to plan9 anyway. I guess it went the way of LISP and Smalltak to the "truly innovative and superior technology nobody uses" bin.
This industry is a hoot.
I'll jump in here too.
I think there is something wrong with you. I think there is something wrong with anybody who advocates murdering people especially if the reason for the murder is the fact they simply disagree with you.
You want to murder activists. OK. But what do you hope to gain by advertising that fact? Do you think it makes you cool or something? Do you run around in some sort of a weird freeper crowd that fantasicises it could murder all activists or other people that they deem unworthy?
Seriously, there is something wrong with you. You need to get help. There is no rational or sane reason for advocating the murder of people in your signature. It's supposed to be a place for a pithy or a humerous sentence. There is nothing humerous about telling the world you want to kill people.
Are you sure religion is on the decline. In Europoe sure but in America and the middle east no. In both of those place religion is actually increasing.
Last I heard over 70% of americans went to church and over 95% believed in god. I am sure those numbers are better then saudi arabia.
Bingo. As a middle manager the only way you can move up is to be responsible for more and more money. As a middle manager it never pays to save money, in fact it can hurt your career. They quickly get in the habit of buying the most expensive solution possible and when it doesn't work they blame the consultants they paid 500 dollars an hour for and fire five people. If they listened to the grunts on the ground they would have saved a ton of money and it would have acutually worked.
"What's the security benefit to injected RFID?"
It probably gets the CIO a bonus. That's the way these things work in corporations. It has nothing to do with whether it's effective or not. It benefits the ruling class and you have no need to know why or how. Do it or hit the road.
"OK, so for the record, Judaism is the religion. Jews/Jewish people are its adherents, but there's this middle eastern tribal thing going on too, so even if you're not observant of the laws if your mother is Jewish you are too. It's got nothing to do with your last point of indicating citizenship in a country."
It's not just a middle eastern tribal thing is it though? There are many jews in ISrael who have immigrated to israel. There are also lots of American jews there too. These people believe wholeheartedly that they are given this plot of land by god to occupy despite the fact that they have never been there and none of their ancestors have ever been there.
As I said it gets very confusing. If you are jew because your mother was a jew then jew is a race. If you are jew because you adopted judeaism then jew is a religion. If you are jew because you live in israel then jew is a nationality.
"Slightly confused about this claim. Anti-semitism is a 19th century term to designate prejudicial Jew hating."
Semites are a race. Jews by and large are not semites. Palestenians by and large are semites. If the term "anti-semites" means "anti-jew" then it's being misused.
"Arabs are Semites, people write prejudicial things about Arabs, therefore Arabs are victims of Antisemitism."
But this is a more accurate statement. I don't think the word anti-semite should apply to jews. In fact unless "jew" means a race (still up in the air) then there is no such thing as racism against the jews. Being anti-jew in that case is more or less the same as being anti-catholic or anti-mexican (anti religion or anti nationality). I always encourage people to use precise terminology so as to avoid confusion the issues any further.
"I completely disagree with your assumption here. Israel is indeed a melting pot of Jews from all over the world as well as Druze, Circassian Muslims, Arabs and others. Do all these communities mix and marry each other? No. Do they enjoy equal rights? They're supposed to."
Didn't you say that israel had to be a "homogenious country"? What does that mean? Furthermore what does it mean for israel to be a "jewish state"? Clearly muslims live there does that mean it's not a jewish state? If the muslims were a majority would it still be a jewish state? Furthermore isn't the idea of a "jewish state" inherently anti-democratic much like a "christian state" or a "muslim state" would be.
"ith it, it started with security concerns and was hijacked by some ethnic supremecists who are in bed with the army and real estate developers. Of course, rockets from Gaza don't help promote the message that unilateral withdrawal is a good thing or that the Palestinians are like South Africans."
As I said there can be no moral equavalance between people killing in order to gain their freedom and people killing in order to subjugate people. I remember there was a movie a while back called "uprising" about the jews fighting off the nazis in poland or something. The jewish heroes were using makeshift molotov cocktails, and snipers to kill the jews in order to secure their freedom. Even though they were both killing there can be no moral equavalance between the nazis killing in order to subjugate the jews and the jews killing in order to shake off their opressors. Same thing.
"What's interesting is that occupying 3.5 million people isn't something that most Israeli's care about, it's something happening over the hills and they don't wish to really get involved with the loonies."
I find that very sad. How does that saying go? "All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing". If those people actually spoke out or voted their conscience then perhaps we would be living in a different world.
Mmmm. Trust Microsoft or trust google?
Oh I know that's an easy one. I would trust google before I trusted MS!.