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yes.
arab toilets have hose-jets.
its not only muslim that washes their poo-holes afterwards - its most of the Eastern countries.
Both cultures (Eastern and Western) sees the "other" practice (toilet paper or water) with equal revulsion.
It is one's dutey to test one's governmental site for good and proper accessibilitey
So therefore I assembled ELinks And thus perused the site in question When it came on offering one's humble generositey One was instead sadley denied - the transaction.
There is a very serious side to this. I can't believe you can't read between the lines. While the author and anyone involved with such research is making a parody. There is a danger that Microsoft Windows Emulation could compromise security in Linux. Not only that people are trying writing successful viruses for Linux - be it multi-platform, be it emulated, be it Wine/Win4lin or even Vmware specific as a proof of concept. And while the proof is - it cannot possibly be done (yet). We can relax and laugh it off.
My worse fear is not Windows Emulation but Java/Flash plugins.
Not a nested set of IF-THEN-ELSE statement. I want to know if all the theories of Artificial Inteligence are actually implemented in ANY modern game.
* Do the characters in the game learn from their enviroment? * Do the characters adjust their tactics to deal with different players. * Do the characters have persistent memory? * Is the "brain" of the characters actually programmed using an AI language? (Lisp, Prolog)
But most importantly - does any game pass the Turing Test?;)
I disagree I have Windows XP SP1 on Vmware and haven't done any updating for almost 18 months. And didn't update first time I've installed it and.. nada. I don't know why maybe its because Vmware shields the Operating System from the outside world much better? Like a sandbox... I just know it never got a virus or worm - and I do not have any Anti Virus software.
But one day someone sent me an email - I opened in Opera. And it was all muddled up. He strongly suggested I should scan my system for various - I got paranoid and clicked Windows Update:(
Turned out it was he that had a virus not me.
My Vmware is still XP Service Pack 1 tho and I aint updating until i get paranoid again.
Of course I never *willingly* executed any virus/worm on Vmware - obviously it would run without a doubt.
Our whole argument commenced with you saying that Gimp was a perfectly good replacement for Photoshop .. please elicit with quotes.
You're right and like I'm wrong and like I should stop using Photoshop because like Gimp..
- No! You would be insane in switching over and I am not being sarcastic. I don't and wouldn't recommend Gimp to anyone ever specially with Photoshop experience. Specially because they have to first migrate to Linux.
Now, I said I personally preferred Gimp over Photoshop, but that is only because I became used to it. And unlike many I know that what is good for me - its not necessarily good for the rest. I am very open-minded.
I prefer Linux and yet I recommend Macs, because I know people are different and the configuration aspects of Linux while it brings another edge will be downright boring if not frustrating for most.
Some situations I believe people shouldn't even migrate at all but stick to Windows - gamers for instance.
... and couldn't win a debate with a dense 3 year old.
I make no claims about having more or less knowledge than you [me] + You basically called me clueless without checking your facts [you] =.. could have meant I am clueless than you? Couldn't it?
So why not have gone for that instead?
It could have meant that summing up all other knowledge and skillsets (that you may or may not possess) => you could end up being more *superior* - right?
But no - you choose to go for a "syousef is inferior" deduction. Again I can't help you with your complexes.
Do you think they're going to dump it all to go Linux?
No, nor have I once suggested that. All I am saying it that:
1. Gimp is a powerful and capable product that deserves merit - and it can be used by professionals such it was in the case of Hollywood animators. 2. To slag off Gimp because of a quick test-drive on Window is *not* valid. Gimp's powerful and natural ease is only truly felt when running under a *NIX 3. You dont have to convert to any operating system - in fact Microsoft Windows fits your profile just fine;) 4. Never have I suggested people to drop Photoshop for Gimp - good God!
(fuck me - labelling you *thick* is in overstatement - *dense* is more appropriate!)
Are you that clumsy in chess also? But then again there are those we call the stupid savant.
Man, you *may* possess a lot of hidden talents there - but when it comes to being a normal thinking human being (wisdom if you will) you are indeed a Bozo. Bet you annoy the hell out of those close you. Always wanting to show how much you know and the poor things have to put up with it. It just so aptly fits your persona. Bet you suffer from deep halitosis which makes their experience even more excruciating.
Your IQ, or your chess ranking are hardly parameters in making you an admirable human being. You may indeed shine... but then again so many sociopaths do in their own La-la world.
If I send you ten cents, will you go buy yourself a clue? Oh wait, you're not worth 10 cents.
There. See - you did it again mr.bedouin. - I mean how can I not call you lame when you opt for such a girly statement? Who taught you that one? Your niece? Quite embarrasing I'd say.. lol
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PS: You didn't press the submit button twice - Slashdot won't let you submit multiple posts. You were probably drunk and had multiple copies of the same text flying about - tut!tut!
I raised it because I knew you would come up with a *weak* excuse... shows you really don't care about facts but protecting your own pitiful self.
I make no claims about having more or less knowledge than you - but if you have some deep seated complexes - that is your problem.
"What do you think that the whole world is stupid and is going to ignore software that's better than Photoshop just out of spite?"
I am finding it hard to break the logic of your sentence. What are you trying to say? If you are saying I am condemning the use of Photoshop over Gimp then I guess you don't read my posts.
I wrote: I don't deny however that Photoshop itself is an extremely professional state-of-the-art software and that in many fronts it still beats Gimp (as I keep hearing: CMYK / Pantone profiles).
But there is much more to Gimp than people are vaguely aware.
Now you stating Linux is useless for running office software AND Saying Gimp is a poor replacement for also.. PaintShop Pro? Hardly makes me the laughing stock. Perhaps you should tell that to the guys at Pixar studio they seriously ought to consider PaintShop Pro lol.
Also, I do not believe Gimp on Windows is a valid test either. Cygwin ports are horrible. It's like me trying to judge Macromedia Dreamweaver from its Linux port on Wine.
Conclusion, your experience and knowledge (or lack of thereof) is only evident by the lameness of your statements. Give it up Bozo, dont get all wound up pressing the submit twice. Next thing you will be having palpitations.
Clearly your Leaders are looking for more wars to keep the population frightened and at the same time perversely entertained.
The "mob" needs such psychological reigning.
While Michael Moore is disputed by some of having dubious journalistic skills - there is a fundamental piece of very intelligent journalism I serious hope the whole world and America gets to watch:
It's time people wake up to the facts and start thinking to themselves. But no "the mob" loves to have someone else to feed them "thoughts".
So many innocent people died, so many peasants and their families are still being tortured - because the coalition forces had to blame something / someone - even if a ghost who was never there.
Understand that America and Great Britain (and the accomplices) have too much innocent blood in their hands. Ha! But what changes? It's always been the same.
Naivity is the greatest evil of all - cos it readily accepts lies as truths.. take for instance that grinning clown Tony Blair. What a dork.
Gimp 2.x has a very intuitive interface more than many Windows applications (there's always the right-click to bail you out) - but have you at least tried it? no
"Using Linux for running office software is like using a saw to hammer in a nail."
"And I'm sorry but gimp is a poor replacement for Photoshop/Paintshop pro."
Think before you speak - or better research You can only have a valid opinion through proper experience and exposure. Spreading myths won't help anyone.
Lastly, I am not going to comment about chess - it is not my place to;)
at the time the cursor hardly pointed the right object they gave a long strict 45 degrees NW pointing cursor with its hotspot somewhere along the stem.
I use Gimp to do what most people do with Photoshop: General Image Manipulations.
I am not a Photographer or a full-time Graphics Designer (although I love hand-drawing and designing Logos)
What I don't like about Photoshop is not the software itself but the OS : modal windows.
Gimp (and most apps in Linux) - you have that freedom of floating dialog boxes instead of Modal-windows; so you can get under it.
The general averseness with Gimp is twofold:
1. People are way too accustomed to Photoshop and unlearning stuff is short of painful.
2. Gimp on Windows/Cygwin sucks sucks badly.
And sadly that is Windows-users gain their first impressions of the software.
In Gimp if you are stuck - right click (navigate the menu from thereon to do almost anything).
Gimp is definitely better what it used to be (I abhored the 1.x versions), and not that sub-standard in comparison to Photoshop.
I don't deny however that Photoshop itself is an extremely professional state-of-the-art software and that in many fronts it still beats Gimp (as I keep hearing: CMYK / Pantone profiles).
But there is much more to Gimp than people are vaguely aware.
For me its refreshing and exciting the whole evolutionary (if not revolutionary) process.
Sure many Linux-ported applications are still sub-par in contrast to Windows-only:
Some got the timing wrong and had to pull-out as Linux wasn't popular then: NetObjects Fusion for Linux and MusicMatch Jukebox.
Others were bullied by the Microsoft lobby: most notably games.
While others still support a Linux version to this date: Maya Complete and Mathematica (way too expensive I rather settle for the free Blender, Octave and Pov-Ray)
Which leads us to the Open Source:
The were have a vast library of resources just to cater for the Designer.
But sadly we got tired and old in learning new stuff.
I cannot comment on the world of Mac. Which should be more user-oriented than developer-oriented; a means to an end as you stated.
While Microsoft itself - is a damn pain in the arse. People are stucked with it for lock-in reasons including proprietory formats - that is how they bred so many software houses writing apps just for it.
Rebooting, desinfecting - recovering corrupted documents is a hassle any business and I could do without. And so.. I resist.
Use Mac / Use Linux / but using Microsoft = very unwise.
Your common sense principle needs revising - but you are not too far off.
While there are many truths in your statements I (the Linux Zealot) beg to differ:
Office Productivity can be hampered a lot by the nuisances incurred by Windows Operating System: security and stability.
I can agree that Mac offers a more solid work or productive environment. But Microsoft Windows? That is short of financial suicide.
Virtually all spam comes from Windows infected PCs = zombies. Hacking Windows even after the SP2 update is still the easiest exercise for any script-kiddie.
About writing documents.. While I still think MS Excel is their best application ever (IMO). MS Word is an annoying frustrating experience. Each upgrade represents a chore of problems - of documents losing format or not being properly read.
In Linux you will find many commercial/non-commercial varieties that do the job just fine. Take Textmaker for example; fast clean and a pleasure to use and offers often better compatibility with Word documents than Open Office. And that goes without saying that these "MS Word Clones" - offer better compatibility with the various versions of Word Documents than Microsoft Word itself.
Presentation / Graphics / Video Editing - you are right. But then I would go Mac never sloppy Windows. Linux wins on very large enterprises like the movie industry (animation and sound editing). Take Shrek that was edited primarily using Linux. Other animation houses use Mac but never Windows.
Linux sucks on games - only because MS & Co. prevents it so (and prevents Macs as well). So for Home & Family Entertainment - Windows is best.
Now I prefer Gimp to Photoshop - would you call me biased? But I prefer Corel Draw to any flimsy attempt at a decent Vector Package for Linux.
Sadly the clowns at Corel Draw - removed support for Mac entirely.
That is why I use my metamoderation only to rescue Trolls/Flamebaits that never were. I encourage everyone to do the same. People mod posts by their title - they dont even read the rest.
Slashdot Mirror
Ok sure :)
I will snog the first Danish girl I see before me
By firing everyone there.
Last I heard that piece of junk was hacked.
Do yourself a favour Google.
Stop supporting lame programmers ffs !!
just speak your mind
don't apologize
don't fear the ratings
if some stupid moderator mods you down - so be it.
/me still clueless :)
yes. arab toilets have hose-jets. its not only muslim that washes their poo-holes afterwards - its most of the Eastern countries. Both cultures (Eastern and Western) sees the "other" practice (toilet paper or water) with equal revulsion.
and your programming language of choice is ...?
the police arrvied
dont do it!! the povlice is here!! fukkkk
nothing is stopping you :)
(Black and White War Propaganda Film)
It is one's dutey
to test one's governmental site
for good and proper accessibilitey
So therefore I assembled ELinks
And thus perused the site in question
When it came on offering one's humble generositey
One was instead sadley denied - the transaction.
Blimey Guv'nor, you do push your luck don't ya?
Quite so.
There is a very serious side to this.
I can't believe you can't read between the lines.
While the author and anyone involved with such research is making a parody.
There is a danger that Microsoft Windows Emulation could compromise security in Linux.
Not only that people are trying writing successful viruses for Linux - be it multi-platform, be it emulated, be it Wine/Win4lin or even Vmware specific as a proof of concept.
And while the proof is - it cannot possibly be done (yet). We can relax and laugh it off.
My worse fear is not Windows Emulation but Java/Flash plugins.
Not a nested set of IF-THEN-ELSE statement.
;)
I want to know if all the theories of Artificial Inteligence are actually implemented in ANY modern game.
* Do the characters in the game learn from their enviroment?
* Do the characters adjust their tactics to deal with different players.
* Do the characters have persistent memory?
* Is the "brain" of the characters actually programmed using an AI language? (Lisp, Prolog)
But most importantly - does any game pass the Turing Test?
I disagree .. nada. ... I just know it never got a virus or worm - and I do not have any Anti Virus software.
:(
I have Windows XP SP1 on Vmware
and haven't done any updating for almost 18 months.
And didn't update first time I've installed it and
I don't know why maybe its because Vmware shields the Operating System from the outside world much better?
Like a sandbox
But one day someone sent me an email - I opened in Opera. And it was all muddled up. He strongly suggested I should scan my system for various - I got paranoid and clicked Windows Update
Turned out it was he that had a virus not me.
My Vmware is still XP Service Pack 1 tho and I aint updating until i get paranoid again.
Of course I never *willingly* executed any virus/worm on Vmware - obviously it would run without a doubt.
ah man that was funny!!
who was the gnat that moderate you troll??
this is what a real troll looks like:
All fucxkking ignorant moderators should BE shot in the BALLS!!
(why give powers to these guys - such ignorant killjoys)
(mod parent: hilarious)
But of course you are going to bother ;)
.. please elicit with quotes.
..
... and couldn't win a debate with a dense 3 year old.
Our whole argument commenced with you saying that Gimp was a perfectly good replacement for Photoshop
You're right and like I'm wrong and like I should stop using Photoshop because like Gimp
- No! You would be insane in switching over and I am not being sarcastic.
I don't and wouldn't recommend Gimp to anyone ever specially with Photoshop experience.
Specially because they have to first migrate to Linux.
Now, I said I personally preferred Gimp over Photoshop, but that is only because I became used to it.
And unlike many I know that what is good for me - its not necessarily good for the rest.
I am very open-minded.
I prefer Linux and yet I recommend Macs, because I know people are different and the configuration aspects of Linux while it brings another edge will be downright boring if not frustrating for most.
Some situations I believe people shouldn't even migrate at all but stick to Windows - gamers for instance.
There, you did it once again *sigh*
+ You basically called me clueless without checking your facts [you]
=
So why not have gone for that instead?
It could have meant that summing up all other knowledge and skillsets (that you may or may not possess) => you could end up being more *superior* - right?
But no - you choose to go for a "syousef is inferior" deduction. Again I can't help you with your complexes.
Do you think they're going to dump it all to go Linux?
No, nor have I once suggested that.
All I am saying it that:
1. Gimp is a powerful and capable product that deserves merit - and it can be used by professionals such it was in the case of Hollywood animators.
2. To slag off Gimp because of a quick test-drive on Window is *not* valid. Gimp's powerful and natural ease is only truly felt when running under a *NIX
3. You dont have to convert to any operating system - in fact Microsoft Windows fits your profile just fine
4. Never have I suggested people to drop Photoshop for Gimp - good God!
(fuck me - labelling you *thick* is in overstatement - *dense* is more appropriate!)
Are you that clumsy in chess also?
But then again there are those we call the stupid savant.
Man, you *may* possess a lot of hidden talents there - but when it comes to being a normal thinking human being (wisdom if you will) you are indeed a Bozo.
Bet you annoy the hell out of those close you.
Always wanting to show how much you know and the poor things have to put up with it.
It just so aptly fits your persona.
Bet you suffer from deep halitosis which makes their experience even more excruciating.
Your IQ, or your chess ranking are hardly parameters in making you an admirable human being. You may indeed shine
If I send you ten cents, will you go buy yourself a clue? Oh wait, you're not worth 10 cents.
There. See - you did it again mr.bedouin.
- I mean how can I not call you lame when you opt for such a girly statement?
Who taught you that one? Your niece?
Quite embarrasing I'd say
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I make no claims about having more or less knowledge than you - but if you have some deep seated complexes - that is your problem.
.. PaintShop Pro? Hardly makes me the laughing stock. Perhaps you should tell that to the guys at Pixar studio they seriously ought to consider PaintShop Pro lol.
"What do you think that the whole world is stupid and is going to ignore software that's better than Photoshop just out of spite?"
I am finding it hard to break the logic of your sentence. What are you trying to say?
If you are saying I am condemning the use of Photoshop over Gimp then I guess you don't read my posts.
I wrote:
I don't deny however that Photoshop itself is an extremely professional state-of-the-art software and that in many fronts it still beats Gimp (as I keep hearing: CMYK / Pantone profiles).
But there is much more to Gimp than people are vaguely aware.
Now you stating Linux is useless for running office software AND
Saying Gimp is a poor replacement for also
Also, I do not believe Gimp on Windows is a valid test either. Cygwin ports are horrible. It's like me trying to judge Macromedia Dreamweaver from its Linux port on Wine.
Conclusion, your experience and knowledge (or lack of thereof) is only evident by the lameness of your statements. Give it up Bozo, dont get all wound up pressing the submit twice. Next thing you will be having palpitations.
Clearly your Leaders are looking for more wars to keep the population frightened and at the same time perversely entertained.
.. take for instance that grinning clown Tony Blair. What a dork.
The "mob" needs such psychological reigning.
While Michael Moore is disputed by some of having dubious journalistic skills - there is a fundamental piece of very intelligent journalism I serious hope the whole world and America gets to watch:
The Power of Nightmares.
It's time people wake up to the facts and start thinking to themselves. But no "the mob" loves to have someone else to feed them "thoughts".
So many innocent people died, so many peasants and their families are still being tortured - because the coalition forces had to blame something / someone - even if a ghost who was never there.
Understand that America and Great Britain (and the accomplices) have too much innocent blood in their hands. Ha! But what changes? It's always been the same.
Naivity is the greatest evil of all - cos it readily accepts lies as truths
lol. So I was spot on then? that was funny!
;)
Gimp 2.x has a very intuitive interface more than
many Windows applications (there's always the right-click to bail you out) - but have you at least tried it? no
"Using Linux for running office software is like using a saw to hammer in a nail."
"And I'm sorry but gimp is a poor replacement for Photoshop/Paintshop pro."
Think before you speak - or better research
You can only have a valid opinion through proper experience and exposure.
Spreading myths won't help anyone.
Lastly, I am not going to comment about chess - it is not my place to
at the time
the cursor hardly pointed the right object
they gave a long strict 45 degrees NW pointing cursor with its hotspot somewhere along the stem.
really hope they got this fixed now.
Yes Gimp uses layers and masks and filters and paths and channels and scripting extensions, animation - it only lacks better colour management.
Now why do I always over-estimate people ??
I seriously thought I was talking with someone with better Graphics/Design experience.
Come on man you need to do your own research.
Next time try and base your arguments on a list of verifiable evidence don't just rant away.
Otherwise people will see you as nothing but a camcorder tourist.
I use Gimp to do what most people do with Photoshop: General Image Manipulations.
.. I resist.
I am not a Photographer or a full-time Graphics Designer (although I love hand-drawing and designing Logos)
What I don't like about Photoshop is not the software itself but the OS : modal windows.
Gimp (and most apps in Linux) - you have that freedom of floating dialog boxes instead of Modal-windows; so you can get under it.
The general averseness with Gimp is twofold:
1. People are way too accustomed to Photoshop and unlearning stuff is short of painful.
2. Gimp on Windows/Cygwin sucks sucks badly. And sadly that is Windows-users gain their first impressions of the software.
In Gimp if you are stuck - right click (navigate the menu from thereon to do almost anything).
Gimp is definitely better what it used to be (I abhored the 1.x versions), and not that sub-standard in comparison to Photoshop.
I don't deny however that Photoshop itself is an extremely professional state-of-the-art software and that in many fronts it still beats Gimp (as I keep hearing: CMYK / Pantone profiles).
But there is much more to Gimp than people are vaguely aware.
For me its refreshing and exciting the whole evolutionary (if not revolutionary) process. Sure many Linux-ported applications are still sub-par in contrast to Windows-only:
Photogenics, MainActor, QCad / LinuxCad
Some got the timing wrong and had to pull-out as Linux wasn't popular then: NetObjects Fusion for Linux and MusicMatch Jukebox.
Others were bullied by the Microsoft lobby: most notably games.
While others still support a Linux version to this date: Maya Complete and Mathematica (way too expensive I rather settle for the free Blender, Octave and Pov-Ray)
Which leads us to the Open Source:
The were have a vast library of resources just to cater for the Designer.
But sadly we got tired and old in learning new stuff.
I cannot comment on the world of Mac. Which should be more user-oriented than developer-oriented; a means to an end as you stated.
While Microsoft itself - is a damn pain in the arse. People are stucked with it for lock-in reasons including proprietory formats - that is how they bred so many software houses writing apps just for it.
Rebooting, desinfecting - recovering corrupted documents is a hassle any business and I could do without. And so
Use Mac / Use Linux / but using Microsoft = very unwise.
Your common sense principle needs revising - but you are not too far off.
..
While there are many truths in your statements
I (the Linux Zealot) beg to differ:
Office Productivity can be hampered a lot by the nuisances incurred by Windows Operating System:
security and stability.
I can agree that Mac offers a more solid work or productive environment.
But Microsoft Windows? That is short of financial suicide.
Virtually all spam comes from Windows infected PCs = zombies.
Hacking Windows even after the SP2 update is still the easiest exercise for any script-kiddie.
About writing documents
While I still think MS Excel is their best application ever (IMO).
MS Word is an annoying frustrating experience.
Each upgrade represents a chore of problems - of documents losing format or not being properly read.
In Linux you will find many commercial/non-commercial varieties that do the job just fine. Take Textmaker for example; fast clean and a pleasure to use and offers often better compatibility with Word documents than Open Office.
And that goes without saying that these "MS Word Clones" - offer better compatibility with the various versions of Word Documents than Microsoft Word itself.
Presentation / Graphics / Video Editing - you are right. But then I would go Mac never sloppy Windows.
Linux wins on very large enterprises like the movie industry (animation and sound editing). Take Shrek that was edited primarily using Linux.
Other animation houses use Mac but never Windows.
Linux sucks on games - only because MS & Co. prevents it so (and prevents Macs as well).
So for Home & Family Entertainment - Windows is best.
Now I prefer Gimp to Photoshop - would you call me biased?
But I prefer Corel Draw to any flimsy attempt at a decent Vector Package for Linux.
Sadly the clowns at Corel Draw - removed support for Mac entirely.
That is why I use my metamoderation only to rescue Trolls/Flamebaits that never were.
I encourage everyone to do the same.
People mod posts by their title - they dont even read the rest.
Man
The company is German !!
Just write to them and they will port it.
I mean its one country that port their software to Linux easily without a fuss:
SoftMaker
MainConcept
RibbonSoft
i would never ever in my entire life here
:/
go to a dentist
there is always Brazil for that
superb dentists and brilliant doctors
crap webdesigners and MS programmers tho