In our world though the situation is quite the opposite: Russia's industrial base is sufficient to saturate the orbit with plants like that in copious numbers. What is lacking is the tech level required to build something really useful. And the problem here is not in Russia but in the simple fact that the tech in question doesn't exist anywhere on this planet yet.
This is just how it happened when the bug was caught. The whole problem is more general: the kernel fails to properly save and restore the direction flag when calling the signal handler. And once one sees the whole picture, one understands that it immediately (and most importantly) applies to asynchronous signals.
Wrong. It is like saying that if the program fails on this particular test input, then the bug must be in the input.
The problem has absolutely nothing to do with the compiler used to compile the kernel itself. You can camile the kernel by any compiler - it will not change anything. The bug is in the kernel implementation itself. And it was there all the time. And it is still there.
The _user_ code compiler with the new version of GCC just helped to expose it.
The rules for the kernel did not change in any way at all. The rule has always been there: in ordeder to process [potentially asynchronous] signals properly you have to save (and restore) the immediate state of the user execution environment. The kernel did that. They just forgot to save and restore the direction flag.
You don't get it either. In a signal-enabled environment there can't be any policy that would ensure the deterministic state of the flag, even if you set it explicitly before each flag-dependent operation. The only way to fix the problem is to make sure that the signal-routing environment meticulously stores and restores the value when handling interruptions. This was not done. This is the the problem in question. It was there all along and it is not related to any compilers. The current version of GCC was simply more likely to reveal it (and it did reveal it), but the problem itself was there since the beginning of time and can lead to problems with any version of GCC, or any other compiler.
It has very little to do with "assuming" anything. It has everything to do with the nature of 'signal handlers'. As long as the kernel bug is there, "non-assuming" will not help you at all. This can only be fixed by fixing the kernel.
Apparently you still don't get it. It is not a problem with GCC. It is a bug in the kernel. GCC just helped to detect it. Now, as its' been detected, it is no longer connected to GCC in any way.
You mean one piece of code that exploits all kernels? No, it doesn't mean that.
However, it means that it might be is perfectly possible to exploit each and every kernel that suffers from this issue by writing specific code for it.
Sorry, but this is just plain nonsense. It is like saying that C and C++ standards made programming easy. However, the truth is that even if you teach the whole world all the intricacies of C or C++, it still won't turn everybody into programmers.
There's never been any negotiations between Apple and China Mobile. Needless to say, they have never broken down, since there was nothing to break down.
Both lies were nothing more than another drops in the long stream of manipulative misinformation about Apple concocted by stock market criminals. Steve Jobs clearly debunked these rumors, but apparently, after waiting for a short while, the criminals are trying to milk this cow again.
The only difference is that there's a law like that in France. There's no such law in USA, but the reality is not different at all. My friend runs a small retail store that sells stuff for R/C hobbyists. There are many such small stores in our area. The prices for the stuff they sell are set by the distributor (who most of the time has an exclusive agreement with the manufacturer and so holds the monopoly on distributing the goods among all USA retailers). The retailers are required to sell the goods at the presribed price or above, but not below. Any retailer that will try to sell below the required price will be immediately reported by the competitors to the distributor, which will punish the retailer by terminating their relationsip. Retailers are allowed to have a fixed number of sales per year (normally, one), when the price can be dropped, but not below a pre-determined percentage. Retailers are allowed to have one "grand opening" sale when they start their business. Aside from that, once again, there's a floor on the prices below which the ratailers are not allowed to go.
... and an obvious troll at that. The MS says "don't edit", the poster pretends that it said "don't backup". Very simple. The original poster gets a mandatory IQ check, packs his stuff and goes to the mental insitution, where he belongs, followed by his Slashdot moderator buddies, who put this troll on the front page.
The system in the helicopter is in no way "similar" except from the fact that it used head tracking. Head-tracking helmets have been used for aiming weapons in aircraft for quite sime time now. Mass-application of the concept originates from Soviet fighter planes, MiG-29 being the most notable example.
In Russian it means "stormy" as applied to weather. However, the look and feel of the transliteration points to someone from more "Western" parts of Eastern Europe. Poland? Czech? Romanian? Russian - unlikely.
It is quite possible that the packaging line for Western Digital Hard Drives is very close to the packaging line for Western Digital Kitched Tiles, so they just swapped the boxes by accident...
In the PDF document they keep referring to Georgia as Georga. He he he... I wonder which one they hate the most: the US state or the former Soviet republic...
And yet will all those gadgets they manage to do the most stupid thing one can do in this situation - they loaded it all into a BMW (?!). An obvious newb trying to show-off.
Any kid with basic understanding of what is what on the modern car market knows that you just can't use BMW for long-distance trips (except in the movies, of cpurse). Or, more precidely, you can'r reasonably hope to make a record. BMW is normally very likely to require major repar attention during the 3k miles trip (possibly, more than once). BMW are typical drive-around-the-block cars, which you don't take further that 10 miles away from your dealership or your favorite mechanic. They are just asking for ending up in the middle of nowhere, wondering where exactly that damn wheel fell off, what is the nearest place to buy a new fuel pump, when did the A/C stop working and why the entire electrical system just quit altogether...
Well, well, well... Here we go again. Jim Oberg. That same Jim Oberg who was almost blowing his gasket a couple of weeks ago when that journalist was asking him questions about alcohol abuse by astronauts (you all remember the story, I'm sure). It was all preposterous nonsense not backed up by any evidence, he said, berely keeping his cool. And what do we see now? He is happily making up stories about Russians accusing US of the computer falures - something that never happened in reality. The power problems caused by some new US installations were indeed considered as intermediate working brainstormed versions of what could have happened. But nobody ever did any fingerpointing or made any acussations before the situation was sufficiently researched and the root cause determined. Of course, Jim Oberg could not refreain from distorting the truth "just a little". Tsk, tsk, tsk... Note, how he refers to the hypothesis as both "blatant finger pointing" and just "guesses" within single paragraph - just to keep his article a little fuzzy, so that he can flip-flop to either when the situation calls for it. Nothing surprising here, though...
LOL. Nothing like that ever happened. There was no finger poining whatsoever. The whole "finger pointing" story is a product of the imagination of Jim Oberg (he has a long track record). It is pretty obvious from the article itself: he engages in rater creative wordplay mentioning both "finger-pointing accusations" and "guesses", just to be able to flip-flop to either one when situation calls for it.
Q: Who do you think wrote the above "checklist" post? (Specify the most probably country of citizenship. Explain why.) A: An American. The above post is a schoolbook example of the typical consequences of one of well-known American inferiority complexes. The author of the post knows very well that the violent crime rate in the USA dwarfs the rate in Russia at least by an order of magnitude. Feeling insecure about the fact, he tries to relieve his inner tensions caused by the aforementioned complex by making public statements containing various meaningless assertions to the contrary, like "The police will not put up with it, anywhere other than Russia", the second part of the statement being the key part. Additionally, one can mention that the aforementioned inferiority complex is currently aggravated by the overall underdog status of the USA in the world, causing individuals with this kind of mental instability to desperately seek every opportunity "to blow off their steam" in such a manner.
Q: Are you implying that the above statement is the main purpose the author wrote the above post? A: Exactly. The author desperately wanted to assert that killing people in Russia it is OK with Russian police. So, he comes up with the above statement and then surrounds it with a certain volume of meaningless drivel. A rather typical behavior, I might add, often caused by author's subconscious understanding of the falsehood of the "main" statement and the accompanying desire to "hide" it in a heap of "filler".
Q: The post get moderated as "Funny". How did that happen? A: Apparently most of the moderators were Americans... Need I explain more?
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"Fairly credible plans"? LOL. Everybody has "fairly credible plans". Nobody has working vehicles. And if anyone, Russia is the closest to having a practical vehicle.
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In our world though the situation is quite the opposite: Russia's industrial base is sufficient to saturate the orbit with plants like that in copious numbers. What is lacking is the tech level required to build something really useful. And the problem here is not in Russia but in the simple fact that the tech in question doesn't exist anywhere on this planet yet.
This is just how it happened when the bug was caught. The whole problem is more general: the kernel fails to properly save and restore the direction flag when calling the signal handler. And once one sees the whole picture, one understands that it immediately (and most importantly) applies to asynchronous signals.
Wrong. It is like saying that if the program fails on this particular test input, then the bug must be in the input.
The problem has absolutely nothing to do with the compiler used to compile the kernel itself. You can camile the kernel by any compiler - it will not change anything. The bug is in the kernel implementation itself. And it was there all the time. And it is still there.
The _user_ code compiler with the new version of GCC just helped to expose it.
The rules for the kernel did not change in any way at all. The rule has always been there: in ordeder to process [potentially asynchronous] signals properly you have to save (and restore) the immediate state of the user execution environment. The kernel did that. They just forgot to save and restore the direction flag.
You don't get it either. In a signal-enabled environment there can't be any policy that would ensure the deterministic state of the flag, even if you set it explicitly before each flag-dependent operation. The only way to fix the problem is to make sure that the signal-routing environment meticulously stores and restores the value when handling interruptions. This was not done. This is the the problem in question. It was there all along and it is not related to any compilers. The current version of GCC was simply more likely to reveal it (and it did reveal it), but the problem itself was there since the beginning of time and can lead to problems with any version of GCC, or any other compiler.
It has very little to do with "assuming" anything. It has everything to do with the nature of 'signal handlers'. As long as the kernel bug is there, "non-assuming" will not help you at all. This can only be fixed by fixing the kernel.
Apparently you still don't get it. It is not a problem with GCC. It is a bug in the kernel. GCC just helped to detect it. Now, as its' been detected, it is no longer connected to GCC in any way.
Perfect, Einstein. Now why don't you go and get a clue about what a signal handler is?
.. but never got through "reading 101" apparently. Once again, Earth to Mars: it is a bug in kernel implementations, not in GCC compiler.
You mean one piece of code that exploits all kernels? No, it doesn't mean that.
However, it means that it might be is perfectly possible to exploit each and every kernel that suffers from this issue by writing specific code for it.
In this particular case it is the kernel that makes assumptions, not GCC.
Sorry, but this is just plain nonsense. It is like saying that C and C++ standards made programming easy. However, the truth is that even if you teach the whole world all the intricacies of C or C++, it still won't turn everybody into programmers.
There's never been any negotiations between Apple and China Mobile. Needless to say, they have never broken down, since there was nothing to break down.
Both lies were nothing more than another drops in the long stream of manipulative misinformation about Apple concocted by stock market criminals. Steve Jobs clearly debunked these rumors, but apparently, after waiting for a short while, the criminals are trying to milk this cow again.
The only difference is that there's a law like that in France. There's no such law in USA, but the reality is not different at all. My friend runs a small retail store that sells stuff for R/C hobbyists. There are many such small stores in our area. The prices for the stuff they sell are set by the distributor (who most of the time has an exclusive agreement with the manufacturer and so holds the monopoly on distributing the goods among all USA retailers). The retailers are required to sell the goods at the presribed price or above, but not below. Any retailer that will try to sell below the required price will be immediately reported by the competitors to the distributor, which will punish the retailer by terminating their relationsip. Retailers are allowed to have a fixed number of sales per year (normally, one), when the price can be dropped, but not below a pre-determined percentage. Retailers are allowed to have one "grand opening" sale when they start their business. Aside from that, once again, there's a floor on the prices below which the ratailers are not allowed to go.
... and an obvious troll at that. The MS says "don't edit", the poster pretends that it said "don't backup". Very simple. The original poster gets a mandatory IQ check, packs his stuff and goes to the mental insitution, where he belongs, followed by his Slashdot moderator buddies, who put this troll on the front page.
The system in the helicopter is in no way "similar" except from the fact that it used head tracking. Head-tracking helmets have been used for aiming weapons in aircraft for quite sime time now. Mass-application of the concept originates from Soviet fighter planes, MiG-29 being the most notable example.
In Russian it means "stormy" as applied to weather. However, the look and feel of the transliteration points to someone from more "Western" parts of Eastern Europe. Poland? Czech? Romanian? Russian - unlikely.
It is quite possible that the packaging line for Western Digital Hard Drives is very close to the packaging line for Western Digital Kitched Tiles, so they just swapped the boxes by accident...
How long these have been in use in Europe? Thirty years? Twenty five? Even in Russia nobody looks at car elevators as something unusual...
In the PDF document they keep referring to Georgia as Georga. He he he... I wonder which one they hate the most: the US state or the former Soviet republic...
And yet will all those gadgets they manage to do the most stupid thing one can do in this situation - they loaded it all into a BMW (?!). An obvious newb trying to show-off.
Any kid with basic understanding of what is what on the modern car market knows that you just can't use BMW for long-distance trips (except in the movies, of cpurse). Or, more precidely, you can'r reasonably hope to make a record. BMW is normally very likely to require major repar attention during the 3k miles trip (possibly, more than once). BMW are typical drive-around-the-block cars, which you don't take further that 10 miles away from your dealership or your favorite mechanic. They are just asking for ending up in the middle of nowhere, wondering where exactly that damn wheel fell off, what is the nearest place to buy a new fuel pump, when did the A/C stop working and why the entire electrical system just quit altogether...
Well, well, well... Here we go again. Jim Oberg. That same Jim Oberg who was almost blowing his gasket a couple of weeks ago when that journalist was asking him questions about alcohol abuse by astronauts (you all remember the story, I'm sure). It was all preposterous nonsense not backed up by any evidence, he said, berely keeping his cool. And what do we see now? He is happily making up stories about Russians accusing US of the computer falures - something that never happened in reality. The power problems caused by some new US installations were indeed considered as intermediate working brainstormed versions of what could have happened. But nobody ever did any fingerpointing or made any acussations before the situation was sufficiently researched and the root cause determined. Of course, Jim Oberg could not refreain from distorting the truth "just a little". Tsk, tsk, tsk... Note, how he refers to the hypothesis as both "blatant finger pointing" and just "guesses" within single paragraph - just to keep his article a little fuzzy, so that he can flip-flop to either when the situation calls for it. Nothing surprising here, though...
LOL. Nothing like that ever happened. There was no finger poining whatsoever. The whole "finger pointing" story is a product of the imagination of Jim Oberg (he has a long track record). It is pretty obvious from the article itself: he engages in rater creative wordplay mentioning both "finger-pointing accusations" and "guesses", just to be able to flip-flop to either one when situation calls for it.
Q: Who do you think wrote the above "checklist" post? (Specify the most probably country of citizenship. Explain why.)
A: An American. The above post is a schoolbook example of the typical consequences of one of well-known American inferiority complexes. The author of the post knows very well that the violent crime rate in the USA dwarfs the rate in Russia at least by an order of magnitude. Feeling insecure about the fact, he tries to relieve his inner tensions caused by the aforementioned complex by making public statements containing various meaningless assertions to the contrary, like "The police will not put up with it, anywhere other than Russia", the second part of the statement being the key part. Additionally, one can mention that the aforementioned inferiority complex is currently aggravated by the overall underdog status of the USA in the world, causing individuals with this kind of mental instability to desperately seek every opportunity "to blow off their steam" in such a manner.
Q: Are you implying that the above statement is the main purpose the author wrote the above post?
A: Exactly. The author desperately wanted to assert that killing people in Russia it is OK with Russian police. So, he comes up with the above statement and then surrounds it with a certain volume of meaningless drivel. A rather typical behavior, I might add, often caused by author's subconscious understanding of the falsehood of the "main" statement and the accompanying desire to "hide" it in a heap of "filler".
Q: The post get moderated as "Funny". How did that happen?
A: Apparently most of the moderators were Americans... Need I explain more?
"Fairly credible plans"? LOL. Everybody has "fairly credible plans". Nobody has working vehicles. And if anyone, Russia is the closest to having a practical vehicle.
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