Yes, I would want the ideal to shut down quickly too. In fact, I'm sure average joe would (the option to check for programs first could be an option in the prefs at most). Y'see in the end we all generally want the same goals in an OS - speed, excellent multitasking, ease of file location, and an open slate to do stuff.
Unless we design OSs properly with metadata/database filesystems and you know, decent code. Something a bit more like Haiku in fact. One size should fit all.
Whish is why Wikipedia needs a pagerank system, but for users. People vote for others, who then vote for others etc. Extra weight to a vote is given with someone who themself has reveived many/good votes etc.
Well the analogue in the hardware/iphone world would be to ask a different hardware manufacturer right? Thankfully, Apple isn't the only producer of mobile phones.
The fact that locking in is very common does not mean it is a good idea.
Here we go again... uhhh, as much as I think Apple is evil for doing this, and as much as I agree that they should allow any and all software on the phone, your argument about it being allowed to do these things and equating that to being 'yours' is a bit odd.
For example, if standard PC software is restricted (misses a useful feature) because the developer wants you to pay a little more for the full price version with the feature enabled, you still 'own' both software, it's just that one is more restricted than the other - it doesn't make either version any less 'yours'.
To summarize, it being 'yours' has little bearing on how functional the phone is or how functional it should be.
If Apple do allow Google Voice, will that effectively allow free SMS and mobile calls?
I've read polar conclusions in two different places, so I don't know what to think.
If SMS etc. through Google Voice is free, then the only charge will be for the internet access (which byte for byte, is presumably orders of magnitude cheaper than SMS).
With or without technology, people often ignore each other in many social situations (e.g. train platform or on a bus), and that could be said to be feel like a zombie movie I guess. See what you mean though.
Fair enough, I just find it odd in this day and age when internet access is increasingly common over a phone that *slightly* deeper bass and higher bit rates can't be used. Maybe I'm overestimating the potential of internet access at the mo. Perhaps 3G etc. will solve this etc.
Is mp3 still a terrible format when you consider that the sound quality from mobiles is very tinny? If the bass was properly included, I'm guessing MP3 wouldn't be much worse. Also, one may want to play other things over the phone such as music etc.
In any case, the new generation of phones should have much faster transfer rates (for internet etc.), and perhaps voice can go through the internet by default. In which case, it wouldn't matter even if full 44khz WAV was used:)
Dunno how much of the above is really true though.
Can't audio data from cell phones be sent and received in mp3 format? It would improve quality immeasurably by using a digital format like this surely?
I was making 2 separate points. If it makes at least 50% of users, I will call it "year of the linux desktop", but even then, I still say that all OSs, including linux fail in the sense that they can be much better than they currently are.
1: But do they all inter-operate perfectly? That's a rhetorical question because I've heard a few times from slashdot users how lots of distros (or even programs within one distro) won't interoperate perfectly (whether it's GUI stuff, formats, or other stuff).
2: Does it really have a full metadata system where everything can stored in one folder (without naming duplication issues), and where programs and stuff still continues to operate? And does the system really automatically summon a brand new open/save requester for each program out there to take advantage of this new system (example: allowing one to edit the metadata on saving)? I doubt it supports everything that this page shows, but even it does, we want this system to be standard/default throughout all of the OS, simply because it is a *better* way of working than a hierarchical approach (it can practically subsume it for one).
3: 'Snappy' is that under-rated metric that's hard to define or measure but which definitely exists. We're talking about sub-second pauses after clicking buttons, opening programs, popping up a menu, refreshing windows, multi-tasking - all that kind of thing. I've heard again from slashdot users that Ubuntu is less responsive/snappy than Win 7.
4: While I think you're right technically, an OS with a database/metadata OS as standard is going to be a heck of a lot closer than the current mess we have. Refinements after that will be incremental and be much more compatible with the OS we would use in 500 years time. There's only so much you can do with an OS after all.
I'll call it the year of the Linux desktop when at least 50% of users are on it.
Unfortunately, I am unlikely to switch due to the following reasons:
1: A less unified GUI/OS compared to Windows 7 2: The lack of a metadata filesystem to allow dumping of all files into a single folder. 3: Probably less snappy than Windows 7 4: Other kernels/OSs (such as Haiku) are ultimately more appealing, so if we're going to switch, we may as well switch to something that will still be used in 500 years time.
If 2 or more of the above issues are fixed, I will consider switching to Ubuntu/linux.
A shameless plug this - something a bit odd I created over 10 years on the Amiga and spruced up recently. Worth looking at if you like a mix of physics with tons of particles, and weird Jeff Minter/psychedelia stuff:
Bah, if only people realised that sleep was an addictive habit and could be eliminated altogether through sheer willpower alone! My years of research provide 140% proof of that:
Yes, but life may have suited the conditions *fractionally* more easily if it were a few more thousand miles away or towards the sun. Just because it wouldn't be easily 'noticable', that doesn't that there aren't degrees in it.
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As G. B. Shaw said, "Liberty means responsibility, that is why most men dread it"
So you're saying you can't have the best of both wordls - an OS as non-messy as Windows 7, and one that is as free as Linux?
Yes, I would want the ideal to shut down quickly too. In fact, I'm sure average joe would (the option to check for programs first could be an option in the prefs at most). Y'see in the end we all generally want the same goals in an OS - speed, excellent multitasking, ease of file location, and an open slate to do stuff.
Also, it's nicer for everyone if the whole OS is unified and automatically checks these kinds of things, without having to bother the user.
One install, but a clever install, is best.
Unless we design OSs properly with metadata/database filesystems and you know, decent code. Something a bit more like Haiku in fact. One size should fit all.
Whish is why Wikipedia needs a pagerank system, but for users. People vote for others, who then vote for others etc. Extra weight to a vote is given with someone who themself has reveived many/good votes etc.
I should be able to ask a different developer.
Well the analogue in the hardware/iphone world would be to ask a different hardware manufacturer right? Thankfully, Apple isn't the only producer of mobile phones.
The fact that locking in is very common does not mean it is a good idea.
That, we can agree on.
Here we go again... uhhh, as much as I think Apple is evil for doing this, and as much as I agree that they should allow any and all software on the phone, your argument about it being allowed to do these things and equating that to being 'yours' is a bit odd.
For example, if standard PC software is restricted (misses a useful feature) because the developer wants you to pay a little more for the full price version with the feature enabled, you still 'own' both software, it's just that one is more restricted than the other - it doesn't make either version any less 'yours'.
To summarize, it being 'yours' has little bearing on how functional the phone is or how functional it should be.
If Apple do allow Google Voice, will that effectively allow free SMS and mobile calls?
I've read polar conclusions in two different places, so I don't know what to think.
If SMS etc. through Google Voice is free, then the only charge will be for the internet access (which byte for byte, is presumably orders of magnitude cheaper than SMS).
11) Rocket launcher (gets the job done in case of the previous methods are not thorough enough)
Yes it is when each spam filled page takes at least 5 seconds to load (at least in some cases).
With or without technology, people often ignore each other in many social situations (e.g. train platform or on a bus), and that could be said to be feel like a zombie movie I guess. See what you mean though.
Fair enough, I just find it odd in this day and age when internet access is increasingly common over a phone that *slightly* deeper bass and higher bit rates can't be used. Maybe I'm overestimating the potential of internet access at the mo. Perhaps 3G etc. will solve this etc.
Is mp3 still a terrible format when you consider that the sound quality from mobiles is very tinny? If the bass was properly included, I'm guessing MP3 wouldn't be much worse. Also, one may want to play other things over the phone such as music etc.
In any case, the new generation of phones should have much faster transfer rates (for internet etc.), and perhaps voice can go through the internet by default. In which case, it wouldn't matter even if full 44khz WAV was used :)
Dunno how much of the above is really true though.
Can't audio data from cell phones be sent and received in mp3 format? It would improve quality immeasurably by using a digital format like this surely?
I was making 2 separate points. If it makes at least 50% of users, I will call it "year of the linux desktop", but even then, I still say that all OSs, including linux fail in the sense that they can be much better than they currently are.
Compared to what they should be, mac, PC and Linuc are fail yes.
Perhaps it should be a contest, because then we can have a better OS in general sigh.
Isn't it just volts*amps that determine the danger then? That would just equate to watts wouldn't it?
1: But do they all inter-operate perfectly? That's a rhetorical question because I've heard a few times from slashdot users how lots of distros (or even programs within one distro) won't interoperate perfectly (whether it's GUI stuff, formats, or other stuff).
2: Does it really have a full metadata system where everything can stored in one folder (without naming duplication issues), and where programs and stuff still continues to operate? And does the system really automatically summon a brand new open/save requester for each program out there to take advantage of this new system (example: allowing one to edit the metadata on saving)? I doubt it supports everything that this page shows, but even it does, we want this system to be standard/default throughout all of the OS, simply because it is a *better* way of working than a hierarchical approach (it can practically subsume it for one).
3: 'Snappy' is that under-rated metric that's hard to define or measure but which definitely exists. We're talking about sub-second pauses after clicking buttons, opening programs, popping up a menu, refreshing windows, multi-tasking - all that kind of thing. I've heard again from slashdot users that Ubuntu is less responsive/snappy than Win 7.
4: While I think you're right technically, an OS with a database/metadata OS as standard is going to be a heck of a lot closer than the current mess we have. Refinements after that will be incremental and be much more compatible with the OS we would use in 500 years time. There's only so much you can do with an OS after all.
I'll call it the year of the Linux desktop when at least 50% of users are on it.
Unfortunately, I am unlikely to switch due to the following reasons:
1: A less unified GUI/OS compared to Windows 7
2: The lack of a metadata filesystem to allow dumping of all files into a single folder.
3: Probably less snappy than Windows 7
4: Other kernels/OSs (such as Haiku) are ultimately more appealing, so if we're going to switch, we may as well switch to something that will still be used in 500 years time.
If 2 or more of the above issues are fixed, I will consider switching to Ubuntu/linux.
Why isn't anyone answering your questions? It can't be that hard just to test each one for a couple of seconds.
I'm not actually sure if this is meant to be a joke or not.
A shameless plug this - something a bit odd I created over 10 years on the Amiga and spruced up recently. Worth looking at if you like a mix of physics with tons of particles, and weird Jeff Minter/psychedelia stuff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTW09McfCjA
"Chaotic Bouncefloor of Doom"
Love to port over the program to the PC sometime...
Once someone creates a native GUI app for it, there won't even be a need to use a browser as a workaround.
Bah, if only people realised that sleep was an addictive habit and could be eliminated altogether through sheer willpower alone! My years of research provide 140% proof of that:
http://www.skytopia.com/project/articles/sleep.html
Yes, but life may have suited the conditions *fractionally* more easily if it were a few more thousand miles away or towards the sun. Just because it wouldn't be easily 'noticable', that doesn't that there aren't degrees in it.